**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Sep 30 02:59:59 2012 Sep 30 11:04:40 mm Sep 30 11:57:35 ~seen jonwil Sep 30 11:57:37 jonwil <~jonwil@27-33-137-199.static.tpgi.com.au> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 27d 1h 29m 5s ago, saying: 'yay, my N900 is finally fixed :)'. Sep 30 11:59:24 :'( Sep 30 12:21:38 where is jonwil? Sep 30 12:35:05 yo Sep 30 12:45:01 Dd Sep 30 12:45:13 deedd Sep 30 12:46:48 Ddd Sep 30 12:52:39 I am typing this from an old ipaq spp BT keyboard! Sep 30 12:52:57 It is more exciting than it should be. Sep 30 12:54:42 sswhoaah Sep 30 12:55:07 even the blu function key in the kbd works the same as the n900 kbd! Sep 30 13:08:43 hi Sep 30 13:09:00 what is the package name of Community SSU Enabler ? Sep 30 13:09:21 irrelevant Sep 30 13:09:38 err Sep 30 13:09:43 i'm still having that issue Sep 30 13:10:16 visit http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU and install it from there, there are one-click-install buttons Sep 30 13:10:42 no valid internet connections when i install CSSU testing Sep 30 13:10:51 so i cant really connect to internet Sep 30 13:11:00 then you're out of luck. Offline installation not supported Sep 30 13:11:31 YAY! lucky me Sep 30 13:11:50 what do you mean no valid internet connections? Sep 30 13:11:59 ICD2 stops working? D: Sep 30 13:12:16 means i cant select anything Sep 30 13:12:20 IF that's the case, no CSSU will fix that Sep 30 13:12:27 as an internet connection Sep 30 13:12:35 is there an automatic bluetooth keyboard package? Sep 30 13:13:03 DocScrutinizer05: it works fine before this latest update Sep 30 13:13:05 right now I have to rfcomm connect then manually run kbdd. Sep 30 13:13:07 indeed, trying to install cssu (or anything at all) onto a broken system is unadvisable :) Sep 30 13:13:21 then roll back to state before that update Sep 30 13:13:21 its not broken... Sep 30 13:13:25 vi_: http://maemo.org/packages/view/extkbd/ maybe Sep 30 13:14:32 though there's not a single additional report like yours, afaik Sep 30 13:14:56 not sure yet why it happens but it happens after this latest CSSU-T update Sep 30 13:15:05 so odds are it's not related to the update (whatever that was), but rather to something unique to yur hw/sw config Sep 30 13:15:57 plus CSSU-T didn't even touch anything ICD related afaik Sep 30 13:16:24 for good reason, I have to add Sep 30 13:16:38 DocScrutinizer05, so, you're throwing your hat in the ring? Sep 30 13:16:49 DocScrutinizer05: osso-wlan 3.0.20.1+0cssu2 Sep 30 13:17:10 but there *might* be other changes in cssu-t that cause breakage in some weird nasty connection manager package you might have installed Sep 30 13:17:30 GeneralAntilles: they tricked me, yeah :-/ Sep 30 13:17:36 i have nothing special installed Sep 30 13:17:39 dhbiker: do you use autodisconnect or wifiswitcher Sep 30 13:17:41 or something like that Sep 30 13:17:44 kerio: rrright, but afaik that's old Sep 30 13:18:07 kerio: only widget for disabling the wifi yes Sep 30 13:18:25 dhbiker: i think it's the issue here Sep 30 13:18:27 might conflict with packet injection stuff though. Not sure if that aspect got tested Sep 30 13:19:01 hm Sep 30 13:19:06 i'll test that later Sep 30 13:19:13 i have to go now Sep 30 13:19:18 (though it's meant to faciliate pkt inj, so it would be rather funny if it breaks stuff instead when the hacker apps rush in) Sep 30 13:20:04 GeneralAntilles: I'll nominate you :-D Sep 30 13:20:30 GeneralAntilles: DocScrutinizer05 is our eternal leader! heil joerg! o/ Sep 30 13:20:52 kerio: you're not makeing friends like that Sep 30 13:21:14 DocScrutinizer05, nominate all you want, I'm not accepting. :P Sep 30 13:21:43 but well, maybe it disgusts a few voters so much that they think twice before they vote for me, so please go on Sep 30 13:22:50 GeneralAntilles: but.. but... Sep 30 13:23:16 you CANT reject Sep 30 13:25:03 lol Sep 30 13:25:19 I think historical precedence is with me. Sep 30 13:42:32 ping freemangordon Sep 30 13:42:35 well, then I hope you'll be available for a position as my personal councilor, when it hits me Sep 30 13:42:43 :-) Sep 30 13:43:33 honestly your experience would've been needed right now Sep 30 13:43:46 freemangordon, now I'm testing hald-addon-bme. I fixed one bug (bad detection of empty state), but there is problem with maemo statusbar applet... Sep 30 13:44:20 statusbar applet does not show any messages (like battery to low or charger disconnected) Sep 30 13:44:35 but I see all dbus messages in dbus-monitor Sep 30 13:45:22 need to RE status-area-applet-battery.so and understand why... Sep 30 13:45:32 Pali: or rewrite it Sep 30 13:45:57 we should understand how to send information about battery empty status Sep 30 13:46:34 now hald-addon-bme sending dbus signal about low/empty state Sep 30 13:46:34 Pali: wrong dbus maybe? or wrong address? Sep 30 13:46:42 same address Sep 30 13:46:43 Do you have any writeup of the dbus messages? Sep 30 13:46:47 as binary bme Sep 30 13:46:49 Pali: run-standalone.sh thing related? Sep 30 13:46:58 I think no Sep 30 13:47:14 dbus-monitor show same dbus messages for our implementation and bme Sep 30 13:47:26 hmm Sep 30 13:48:07 battery is empty is handled by DSME, so I'm sending to dsme info --> and this is working dsme turn device off Sep 30 13:48:23 but that stupid statusbar does not show any message... Sep 30 13:48:30 FFS Sep 30 13:48:48 well, is it actually the statusbar thingie that shows those? Sep 30 13:49:16 or does it simply send another msg to hildon-notifierd or whatever? Sep 30 13:50:10 btw I guess those are signals (null destination addr), not msgs from A to B Sep 30 13:50:14 I looked at bme and hald-addon-bme and they sending only dbus messages which sending our implementation... Sep 30 13:50:31 is there other path of communication too? Sep 30 13:50:57 iirc for Mer during N8x0 times the mer battery statusbar didnt use dbus Sep 30 13:51:12 signals can get acted upon by arbitrary monitors on dbus Sep 30 13:51:39 ShadowJK, can you give me link for that statusbar? Sep 30 13:51:56 oh wait, it was hald-addon-bme that did non-dbus communication with bme Sep 30 13:52:08 ShadowJK: how's about running for council? Sep 30 13:52:14 no Sep 30 13:52:21 pretty clear Sep 30 13:52:47 http://gitorious.org/mer-toggles/hald-addon-bme Sep 30 13:53:38 don't think I enjoy the results of temporary mental blackout yesterday Sep 30 13:53:58 ShadowJK, I know about that hal addon Sep 30 13:54:07 our implementation is based on that Sep 30 13:54:09 it's just too embarrassing to step down now Sep 30 13:55:13 status-area-applet-battery.so is 24K... somebody with ida can disassemble it? Sep 30 13:55:28 maybe another twoo weeks will readjust the weights on embarrassment and anticipated/already-felt pain Sep 30 13:56:05 kerio help a lot in that regard ;-) Sep 30 13:56:37 * DocScrutinizer05 waits for kerio calling him adolf instead of doc Sep 30 13:57:41 "our eternal leader" PFFFFF Sep 30 13:57:55 JesusScrutinizer05 Sep 30 14:01:57 you know that one vanished after 4 weeks Sep 30 14:02:09 iirc Sep 30 14:02:15 or was it 40 days? Sep 30 14:02:27 after 33 years Sep 30 14:03:09 ooh, then I'm already decades on retirement Sep 30 14:04:33 sitting here with my MTHELS at left hand, and my IT parc on my right hand... errr that's not exactly precise Sep 30 14:06:48 * DocScrutinizer05 looks for the HUGE wate tap to open Sep 30 14:08:24 * DocScrutinizer05 hums Fripp&Gabriel "when the flood comes" and heads out for RL Sep 30 14:09:48 actually "here comes the flood" Sep 30 14:10:42 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ye8iDnKJDss Sep 30 15:05:32 Has anybody azimuth working? http://blog.desmottes.be/post/2010/04/25/Introducing-Azimuth-for-Maemo It worked for me in the past, but stopped some time back. Not sure if that was CSSU related... Sep 30 15:18:55 * Lava_Croft randomly mumbles about how dbus-scripts is lovely Sep 30 15:20:09 :) Sep 30 15:50:48 kerio: uninstalling wifi widget didnt help Sep 30 15:50:56 or do i have to do it before updating ? Sep 30 15:51:03 i think you have to do it before updating Sep 30 15:51:06 but idk Sep 30 15:51:14 oh ok Sep 30 15:51:25 i'll try that too Sep 30 15:53:57 aww, i want to buy a game gripper Sep 30 15:54:00 but it doesn't work with a case Sep 30 15:54:43 lol Sep 30 15:54:51 and i do love my otterbox Sep 30 16:15:21 dhbiker: kerio: former reports suggest that all those connection managers mess up system files and don't uninstall cleanly Sep 30 16:16:11 so only reliable recovery path so far been a reflash Sep 30 16:16:43 hm, i thought wifiswitcher uninstalled fine, if you uninstall it when the wifi is on Sep 30 16:17:03 seriously ? Sep 30 16:27:39 I don'r have detailed records about all the reports of breakage here during last 2 years Sep 30 16:28:44 general assumption: this class of apps is usually implemented in an unclean way, since for such apps the unclean way is the only feasible way Sep 30 16:29:11 (reports) there were quite a few anyway Sep 30 16:30:00 and every single one I recall ended with "I reflashed, now finally it works again. Many thanks" Sep 30 16:42:53 ~shadowjk Sep 30 16:49:16 hello Sep 30 16:49:33 who here is familliar with bluetooth keyboards? Sep 30 16:49:51 I can connect to it with rfcomm. Sep 30 16:50:01 Then make it work with kbdd. Sep 30 16:50:20 I can type stuff etc. Sep 30 16:50:34 vi__: have you tried extkbd? Sep 30 16:50:44 Is there a more 'seamless' way of making it work? Sep 30 16:50:52 yes I have extkb. Sep 30 16:51:02 it doesn't help? :( Sep 30 16:51:15 but I do not understand what it does exactly. Sep 30 16:51:48 i think freemangordon may help there Sep 30 16:51:54 rfcomm lets me make a profile for the keyboard right? Sep 30 16:52:08 where I enter the mac address. Sep 30 16:52:34 This makes the keyboard always appear on the correct /dev/rfcomm Sep 30 16:52:38 right? Sep 30 16:53:39 Bluetooth keyboards? Sep 30 16:53:48 bluetooth keyboards! Sep 30 16:54:03 then in /etc/bluetooth/kbdd.conf you set your KB type and rfcomm number. Sep 30 16:54:16 I have at least, but I can't remember whether I had any packages from repos Sep 30 16:54:28 to facilitate the addition of one Sep 30 16:54:47 so what do I use to initiate the connection to the KB when I want it? Sep 30 16:54:49 I tried that during my work as a retail assistant on several devices Sep 30 16:55:09 all seem to be seamless Sep 30 16:55:23 not sure, there was a package in the repos Sep 30 16:55:30 I can't remember Sep 30 16:55:38 vi__: tried just connecting to the keyboard? Sep 30 16:57:04 at most probably you'll have to set the access pin as 0000 Sep 30 16:57:06 kerio: how do I do that? Sep 30 16:57:29 vi__: from the bluetooth menu, devices, , settings, connect Sep 30 16:57:30 or something Sep 30 16:57:34 have you set the keyboard to go on accepting connections mode? Sep 30 16:58:32 CodenameStrike-N: the kb works. Sep 30 16:58:41 I can type with it. Sep 30 16:59:29 I guess that's as far as "seamless" goes by definition with it Sep 30 16:59:34 except I have to use the command line to use rfcomm to connect to its mac address then use kbdd to use the kb. Sep 30 16:59:48 I thought there must be an easier way. Sep 30 17:00:07 Hmm Sep 30 17:00:25 I was hoping there might be somone with some experiance who could say yay or nay. Sep 30 17:00:32 Come to think back of it, I had extkb and didn't have to Sep 30 17:00:55 probably experience varies between keyboard models Sep 30 17:01:19 what's the keyboard's model? Sep 30 17:02:59 it is and SPP type kb, not an HID which may be part if the problem. Sep 30 17:03:24 Might be Sep 30 17:03:44 because extkbd depends on HID for the job Sep 30 17:06:08 vi__: definitely discuss this with FMG when he's around.. just the past week he assisted someone else.. and i think it was an SPP issue Sep 30 17:08:37 my thoughts too. Sep 30 17:09:25 I dont want to squander his time. Sep 30 17:11:44 awww, there's no layout for the iGO stowaway bluetooth keyboard Sep 30 17:12:49 oh yeah I don't know if this is more towards hildon-desktop in general Sep 30 17:13:07 oh well, USA 106-keys works fine Sep 30 17:13:23 At intervals, mostly when the system is about to go into load Sep 30 17:13:43 transitions sometimes freeze, buttons stop responding Sep 30 17:13:56 vi__: your keyboard might suck Sep 30 17:14:00 but doesn't affect my ssh session if I'm connected Sep 30 17:14:07 but mine works perfectly, just by installing extkbd, pairing and connecting from the bluetooth menu Sep 30 17:14:08 :3 Sep 30 17:14:25 but issuing a restart signal to hildon-desktop does not work Sep 30 17:14:53 in most cases the phone's display will stick like that until I issue a reboot signal Sep 30 17:15:00 either locally or by remote Sep 30 17:15:11 is this a sign of an Xorg lockup? Sep 30 17:15:56 not xorg, afaik Sep 30 17:18:38 kerio: but there is no connect function in the BT menu... Sep 30 17:18:54 also, i am typing this on my KB right now. Sep 30 17:19:32 also, is rfcomm.conf supposed to be run as you turn BT on? Sep 30 17:19:57 it's supposed to be run when bluetoothd starts Sep 30 17:20:31 vi__: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1405219/Screenshot-20120930-191921.png <- the "Disconnect" button becomes "Connect" when the kbd isn't connected Sep 30 17:21:15 when does bluetoothhd start? Sep 30 17:21:35 vi__: it's either started during boot, or it's started/stopped when you start/stop bluetooth Sep 30 17:21:38 i don't remember Sep 30 17:21:45 my one shows disconnect greyed out all the time. Sep 30 17:21:45 anyway, it's running if the bluetooth is on Sep 30 17:21:54 mmm Sep 30 17:22:26 now I am connected it shows the disconnect button. Sep 30 17:22:39 but why no 'connect' button? Sep 30 17:22:52 also, why hide it at the bottom of 4 menus?? Sep 30 17:23:10 the connect button is there when it's not connected Sep 30 17:23:13 if it's something that the bluetooth UI can handle Sep 30 17:23:15 like HID Sep 30 17:23:22 mmm Sep 30 17:23:48 where are the devices listed? Sep 30 17:23:55 hey, why doesn't ctrl+shift+x work, with the kbd? :c Sep 30 17:23:59 is it in some kind if conf file? Sep 30 17:24:03 other ctrl+shift+foo stuff works Sep 30 17:24:12 vi__: idk, but bluetoothd is fairly standard Sep 30 17:24:16 it's the bluez daemon Sep 30 17:24:23 read up some documentation Sep 30 17:24:41 kerio ctrl+shft+x works on my kbd. Sep 30 17:24:58 ctrl+backspace too. Sep 30 17:25:00 hrmpf Sep 30 17:25:05 ctrl+bksp works too Sep 30 17:25:11 dammit, only the most useful one doesn't work Sep 30 17:25:12 even the blue function key works! Sep 30 17:25:40 my kbd's two Fn keys work perfectly Sep 30 17:25:43 but i think those aren't even sent Sep 30 17:25:49 the translation is done inside the kbd Sep 30 17:25:54 I have ctrl, blue, window, alt AND alt_gr on this kbd! Sep 30 17:26:35 Even my wacky ctrl+shift+number works for F keys! Sep 30 17:27:48 blue? Sep 30 17:28:10 vi__: hm, extkbd loads a separate layout for the external kbd Sep 30 17:28:22 vi__: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1405219/20120930_005.jpg my awesoem kbd Sep 30 17:28:32 it folds in half! :D Sep 30 17:28:49 freemangordon: extkbd++ Sep 30 17:29:13 freemangordon: worked perfectly after a reboot, no issue, nice UI, A++++ would kbd again Sep 30 17:30:09 kerio: that keyboard looks nice Sep 30 17:30:18 =D Sep 30 17:30:19 it does! Sep 30 17:30:44 say Sep 30 17:30:45 <_PanzerSajt> Skry, hy! :) Sep 30 17:30:46 I have an old hp ipaq foldable kbd. Sep 30 17:31:09 is there a #jolla or something? Sep 30 17:31:12 it even has a little stand to hold your n900 at an angle. Sep 30 17:31:13 as in a channel? Sep 30 17:31:16 FlameReaper: #jollamobile Sep 30 17:31:16 :P Sep 30 17:31:21 Ah Sep 30 17:31:23 vi__: mine too! :D Sep 30 17:31:31 that's way ahead than what I though Sep 30 17:31:32 try #vapourware Sep 30 17:31:50 ... oh you... Sep 30 17:31:51 vi__: oh you Sep 30 17:32:00 FlameReaper: oh you Sep 30 17:32:24 moh booh Sep 30 17:32:56 low µ Sep 30 17:32:58 so where does bluetoothhd keep its config files? Sep 30 17:33:25 apparently as I've verified, another cross-platform graphics tool proved it can run on the N900 Sep 30 17:34:18 vi__: /etc/bluetooth/ iirc Sep 30 17:34:25 but the UI also tells it some stuff Sep 30 17:34:37 which reminds me, is icedtea6 the only way we can have java? Sep 30 17:34:53 FlameReaper: well, it has to be an arm binary Sep 30 17:35:35 kerio: nope Sep 30 17:35:49 figures Sep 30 17:36:08 i suppose any java you can compile for ARM is fine Sep 30 17:36:25 _PanzerSajt: hi Sep 30 17:37:19 <_PanzerSajt> Skry, How can I help you with the kernel developement? Sep 30 17:39:33 freemangordon: ping Sep 30 17:40:50 _PanzerSajt: I'm kinda busy atm, I'll query you later ok? Sep 30 17:41:02 <_PanzerSajt> Skry, no problem Sep 30 17:45:08 kerio: Alright, so we have the one app from http://al.chemy.org working on this N900 Sep 30 17:45:31 though the UI is more geared towards desktop use Sep 30 17:45:37 neat :D Sep 30 17:45:41 but it's pretty manageable Sep 30 17:45:59 i'm surprised a graphics editor fits in 800x480 Sep 30 17:46:03 but unlike mypaint Sep 30 17:46:20 it's limited to the screen size its platform runs in Sep 30 17:46:35 of course it is Sep 30 17:46:38 but it has to fit Sep 30 17:46:44 yeah Sep 30 17:54:40 kerio: Was running and getting another sample screenshot of the app Sep 30 17:54:56 http://i.imgur.com/jITO2.png Sep 30 17:55:11 pretty Sep 30 18:08:55 kerio: can you look at your /var/lib/bluetooth/class file and tell me what the string is for your bt kb? Sep 30 18:09:33 i don't have a class Sep 30 18:09:39 i have a /classes Sep 30 18:10:12 kerio: yeah look in there. Sep 30 18:10:24 you will see your btkb mac Sep 30 18:10:34 0x002540 Sep 30 18:10:49 and the icon in the BT UI is a keyboard Sep 30 18:11:21 interesting... Sep 30 18:11:36 or maybe a generic hid device? idk Sep 30 18:13:06 ... Sep 30 18:13:19 it now lists it as a keyboard Sep 30 18:13:23 yay Sep 30 18:13:38 but there is still no 'connect' button. Sep 30 18:13:51 just a greyed out disconnect. Sep 30 18:16:57 sucks to be you i guess Sep 30 18:17:00 reboot, maybe? Sep 30 18:17:31 kerio: do you have 'connect' against any other bluetooh connections? Sep 30 18:17:39 my headphones Sep 30 18:18:01 what about other mobile phones? Sep 30 18:18:08 what would "connect" mean, there? Sep 30 18:18:24 IHNFC Sep 30 18:18:35 for more capable things, i have "disconnect" when there's a connection Sep 30 18:18:42 but no straight-up "connect" Sep 30 18:18:47 kerio: same here Sep 30 18:19:07 brb Sep 30 18:28:20 Anyone savvy with OpenVPN? Sep 30 18:29:04 #openvpn is rather quiet today. When creating client certs in batch mode with pkitool, I'm getting the error "TXT_DB error number 2" resulting in a blank .crt file Sep 30 18:29:10 I suspect I'm doing something 'silly' Sep 30 18:30:15 that does not look like an openvpn problem but an pkitool problem :p Sep 30 18:30:46 I suspect it's a user problem at the end of the day :) Sep 30 18:31:07 Here's my config, and the outcome - http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=u0056buX Sep 30 18:31:45 If I use "pkitool --interact", and enter the default values for all prompts, then all is well Sep 30 19:29:06 ~seen robbiethe1st Sep 30 19:29:16 robbiethe1st <~robbiethe@50-37-85-40.mscw.id.frontiernet.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 2d 19h 33m 13s ago, saying: 'nOW WHAT?'. Sep 30 21:11:04 free Sep 30 21:11:08 ah fuck Sep 30 21:11:31 freemangordon: your fucking extkbd fucked up my layout Sep 30 21:14:52 is rx-51 actually used by the bt keyboard? Sep 30 21:14:57 i restored it now Sep 30 21:21:37 speech! Sep 30 21:22:20 3 times is probably too much, even for me Sep 30 21:27:26 freemangordon: ping Sep 30 21:34:12 How do I allow microb (or webpages) to access my GPS? Sep 30 21:34:32 hmm Sep 30 21:34:46 I vaguely remember something inatallable Sep 30 21:34:55 search location. in ham Sep 30 21:34:57 Some time ago I got the question if I wanted to allow a certain site to use the GPS when I navigated to it Sep 30 21:35:32 But that site changed design, and it's now a javascripted button, which gives me an error message saying permission denied Sep 30 21:35:46 SpeedEvil ham? Sep 30 21:37:44 hildon application manager Sep 30 21:38:04 ah, that slow thing :P Sep 30 21:38:21 I mainly use the terminal for package installation... Sep 30 21:40:03 well apt-cache death location Sep 30 21:40:10 search, not death Sep 30 21:41:24 search repos for microb geolocation Sep 30 21:41:48 I have NFC as to how it actually does it though. Sep 30 21:42:13 yea I did Sep 30 21:42:13 Looking at the microb-geolocation package atm Sep 30 21:42:13 Trying to figure out whenever it's IP based or GPS based Sep 30 21:42:21 go Sep 30 21:42:25 GOS Sep 30 21:42:27 GPS Sep 30 21:43:16 obviously it is GPS based but how?? Sep 30 21:43:17 liblocation based Sep 30 21:44:12 search wiki for liblocation Sep 30 21:46:51 liblocation0 and maemo-geolocation, I'd guess Sep 30 21:48:28 liblocation does at least GPS based rough location, GPS and AGPS Sep 30 21:48:52 s/GPS/GSM/ Sep 30 21:48:53 DocScrutinizer51 meant: liblocation does at least GSM based rough location, GPS and AGPS Sep 30 21:49:37 it's unclear if it does wifi location as well, ala skyhook Sep 30 21:50:56 we're all *very* happy it's another piece of software put by okia into FOSS... *NOT* Sep 30 21:52:57 whei! Sep 30 21:52:59 anyway Sep 30 21:53:16 I take it is the super-mega-awesome geolocation extension for microb I need Sep 30 21:53:18 and had installed Sep 30 21:53:21 now to the fun part Sep 30 21:53:29 where do I manage it's permissions? Sep 30 21:53:55 its* Sep 30 21:53:57 NFC Sep 30 21:54:24 about:settings? Sep 30 21:54:27 horray for easily cofigurable free software! Sep 30 21:54:45 configurable* Sep 30 21:55:03 what's free in this POS? Sep 30 21:55:10 free? Sep 30 21:55:16 LOLLINNGTONS Sep 30 21:55:17 webkit engine? Sep 30 21:55:37 you are free to GTFO. Sep 30 21:55:44 accordingm to nokia. Sep 30 21:55:51 vi__: please! Sep 30 21:55:54 I was being sarcastic at the lack of documentation for the geolocation Sep 30 21:56:19 oh right Sep 30 21:56:24 I am unaware of there being any settings for geolocation for microb. Sep 30 21:56:26 oooh, it HAS quite a bit of docs in wiki Sep 30 21:56:32 really? Sep 30 21:56:49 like 3 screens full Sep 30 21:56:53 DocScrutinizer51: geolocation for microb? Sep 30 21:57:02 liblocation that is Sep 30 21:57:12 DocScrutinizer51: do you use a BT KB? Sep 30 21:57:19 no Sep 30 21:57:24 anyway Sep 30 21:57:26 have you ever? Sep 30 21:57:39 I've tried cofiguring the about:config page in microb once before Sep 30 21:57:52 it involved xforwarding to a desktop in order to use right-click Sep 30 21:57:56 is there an easier way? Sep 30 21:57:56 it's tricky Sep 30 21:58:18 nah, I recall I found a trick Sep 30 21:58:26 I got this one! Sep 30 21:58:31 ~vibinds Sep 30 21:58:38 ~vi_binds Sep 30 21:58:43 god dammit Sep 30 21:58:51 ~vi_bind Sep 30 21:58:59 ~vibind Sep 30 21:59:05 -_- Sep 30 21:59:07 was like typing name of parameter to top search Sep 30 21:59:16