**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Oct 01 03:00:00 2012 Oct 01 04:12:50 lmfao! Oct 01 04:12:51 http://hackertyper.com/ Oct 01 04:13:02 sdflkjjlkjsdflkjsdf Oct 01 04:13:49 sorry got too excited Oct 01 09:23:33 whoa, apparently someone gathered all the patches and got 3.5 to boot on the N900. Oct 01 09:28:18 cool but no real practical use unfortunately. Oct 01 09:45:14 if it boots to a tty, then it's fine Oct 01 09:50:01 and what practical use is this still? Oct 01 09:51:19 I mean, I can also boot into a tty with 2.6.28... Oct 01 10:26:18 I can't transmit my mp3 playing to the radio via the fm transmitter? Oct 01 10:26:26 only internet radio? Oct 01 10:27:09 grammoboy, all audio is piped to the FMTX Oct 01 10:27:12 check your settings Oct 01 10:27:41 Hurrian, so it is possible? Oct 01 10:27:43 hmm Oct 01 10:28:43 it's how it normally works Oct 01 10:30:36 can it be any frequency? Oct 01 10:32:52 or pick one which doesn't belong to a real radio station? Oct 01 10:33:02 eg a uncommon freq? Oct 01 10:34:31 how do I stop extkb from hosing my keyboard geometry? Oct 01 10:34:51 grammoboy, yeah Oct 01 10:35:07 actually, that's what's recommended, because the FMTX antenna has piss poor TX power Oct 01 10:35:20 when I disconnect my BT KB by unfriendly means my N900 KB goes bananas Oct 01 10:35:42 Hurrian: not just that, it is of piss poor design as well. Oct 01 10:35:45 vi__, a script to reload the N900's KB config? Oct 01 10:35:51 no idea how to watch for that though Oct 01 10:36:01 a QBW button/ Oct 01 10:36:14 ever notice that it works nicely on low freqs but sucks utter monkey nuts at high freqs? Oct 01 10:36:29 vi__, antenna problems? Oct 01 10:36:40 Hurrian: what do I have to do to reload rx-51 geometry? Oct 01 10:36:44 never noticed that, freqs < 90MHz are all filled up. Oct 01 10:37:01 setxkbmap only loads leymap. Oct 01 10:37:33 which is no use if the n900 thinks the n900 keyboard is the same physical layout of my external kb. Oct 01 10:37:49 I was going to suggest that, but didn't realize there was a diff bet geometry and layout. Oct 01 10:38:38 kerio: ping Oct 01 10:39:07 the joys of having an spp kb and not a hal one. Oct 01 10:39:31 that coupled with a totally broken implementation of kbdd and bluetoothd Oct 01 10:40:50 kerio: ping Oct 01 10:40:51 kerio: ping Oct 01 10:40:51 kerio: ping Oct 01 11:02:00 Hurrian, ok it works, but only if you keep the n900 real close to the tuner Oct 01 11:12:56 stupid nospam junk Oct 01 11:13:00 sonassbitch Oct 01 11:13:06 kerio: ping Oct 01 11:16:51 has anyone here got a bluetooth keyboard? Oct 01 11:17:01 can you give me some: Oct 01 11:17:29 cat /var/lib/bluetooth//profiles Oct 01 11:29:30 Hi I am getting the telephony functions disabled error after using N900 for like a year ! I didnt even touch the sim , what might have happened ? Oct 01 11:33:33 pavi_: your n900 has died. Oct 01 11:33:46 pavi_: happened to me a month ago. Quite possibly dead phone in the phone Oct 01 11:34:18 pavi_: did you buy your n900 new? Oct 01 11:34:35 No I dont have warranty if thats what you are asking Oct 01 11:34:44 so there is no solution? Oct 01 11:34:59 depends what the issue is. Oct 01 11:35:00 pavi_: try to run 'pnatd' command when it disables the 'phony' functions and issue blind type 'AT' Oct 01 11:35:20 hammer solution?....lol Oct 01 11:35:21 or AT+CFUN? (iirc) Oct 01 11:35:34 six Oct 01 11:35:43 sixwheeledbeast: you have a BT KB? Oct 01 11:35:48 yes Oct 01 11:36:08 sixwheeledbeast, yeah seen the hammer solution :( Oct 01 11:36:22 looks a bit scary IMO Oct 01 11:36:38 mine gets stuck without output after AT, phic presumably is dead phone Oct 01 11:36:44 s/phic/which/ Oct 01 11:36:44 edheldil meant: mine gets stuck without output after AT, which presumably is dead phone Oct 01 11:37:12 somebody recommended reflash, haven't tried it yet Oct 01 11:37:36 edheldil, what does issue blind type mean? does it ask for it ? Oct 01 11:37:47 I am running pnatd as root but no response Oct 01 11:38:32 no, run pnatd command *as root * from a terminal and then blind type (because it does not echo by default) AT Oct 01 11:38:37 and enter Oct 01 11:39:20 when rapuyama is working, it replies 'OK' Oct 01 11:39:31 ohh ok . Oct 01 11:40:14 vi_: I have what's your problem? Oct 01 11:40:36 edheldil, tried that no response from the terminal . Oct 01 11:41:10 well, then see above Oct 01 11:41:13 * pavi_ is sad to have a dead N900 :( Oct 01 11:42:07 for some time it helped to reboot or powercycle the phone, but now it does not work anymore Oct 01 11:43:14 edheldil, same here it started with me selecting 3G ( normally its on GSM) . later only reboot helped .. guess it will become worse Oct 01 11:45:07 try reflash :) Oct 01 11:45:29 sixwheeledbeast: is it an hid KB? Oct 01 11:45:38 pavi_: I have had it once, months ago and it hasn't reoccured. I took it apart and blew the dust out the battery /sim tray. Oct 01 11:46:01 or an spp kb? Oct 01 11:46:23 hid me thinks Oct 01 11:46:28 ok Oct 01 11:46:50 when you go to bluetooth in menu, do you get the option to 'connect' Oct 01 11:47:02 or is the button greyed out? Oct 01 11:47:37 just released I haven't reinstalled extkbd or my kbd after the last reflash Oct 01 11:48:00 have you paired the KB? Oct 01 11:48:08 hi which port gmail talk user on meamo? Oct 01 11:48:21 use* Oct 01 11:48:30 443? Oct 01 11:48:35 yes a while ago Oct 01 11:49:01 Chiku|dc: the standard one Oct 01 11:49:17 sixwheeledbeast: then you can still check, you do not need extkb installed etc. Oct 01 11:49:38 also, what 'profiles' does it list as supported? Oct 01 11:52:06 i do have extkdb, but it shows a hildon-banner error and borks the settings app. Oct 01 11:52:26 not used since the reflash tbh Oct 01 11:53:13 /opt/usr/bin/extkbd --parent 100% in top Oct 01 11:53:38 I just want you to click on the status menu, bluetooth, devices, your KB, edit and tell me what the supported profiles are. Oct 01 11:54:04 HID only Oct 01 11:54:12 there we go Oct 01 11:54:27 is the 'connect' button greyed out? Oct 01 11:54:42 no Oct 01 11:54:47 good Oct 01 11:55:59 I think I shall have to write a QBW to make a BT KB on/off toggle anyway. Oct 01 11:56:21 I get the feeling SPP KB is 'dumb' compared to HID. Oct 01 11:56:56 That coupled with the fact bluetoothd is totally fucking broken. Oct 01 11:57:27 Does anyone know how a script can determine its location? Oct 01 11:57:28 and kbdd from the repos relies on bluetoothd working means it is also totally fucking broken. Oct 01 11:57:36 (bash script) Oct 01 11:57:48 the location of what? Oct 01 11:57:52 i.e. regardless of the directory I call it from, it knows where it is Oct 01 11:58:08 pwd command Oct 01 11:58:16 vi__: The location of itself on the filesystem Oct 01 11:58:33 Like pwd, but working regardless of where I call the script from Oct 01 11:58:45 not the current working directory? Oct 01 11:59:02 uh...locate? Oct 01 11:59:07 find? Oct 01 11:59:25 vi__: No, the location of the script. So if the script is /foo/bar/script.sh, and I call it from /foo/ - I want the result '/foo/bar/' Oct 01 11:59:40 vi__: That's not very efficient each time the script runs, and there may be other copies of it lying around Oct 01 12:00:03 scripts only think in terms of current working directory. Oct 01 12:00:14 they have no knowledge of where they live. Oct 01 12:00:16 i've found this solution - DIR="$( cd "$( dirname "${BASH_SOURCE[0]}" )" && pwd )" Oct 01 12:00:22 But it doesn't seem to work on BusyBox Oct 01 12:00:25 It works on Ubuntu Oct 01 12:00:38 probably because BB uses ASH Oct 01 12:01:03 why cant you use bash? Oct 01 12:01:25 Hm, I am using bash Oct 01 12:01:50 Then it is not a problem with busybox. Oct 01 12:03:43 perhaps it is something to do with environmental variables. Oct 01 12:03:54 What does your script return? Oct 01 12:05:13 sixwheeledbeast, edheldil vi__ I changed the SIM card with a new one , and I am yet to face the telephony issue . Oct 01 12:05:43 pavi_: you are lucky then! Oct 01 12:05:59 Involuntary CMT death is permanent. Oct 01 12:06:21 vi__, but it was also random ... previously .. dunno whats going to happen now Oct 01 12:06:47 pavi_: treasure the last few months with your n900. Oct 01 12:08:10 vi__, :) maybe , should I be looking on ebay for N9 .. ? Oct 01 12:10:29 pavi_: you will also need a lobotamy. Oct 01 12:17:29 vi__, edheldil The issue has now repeated with the new sim after like 30 minutes :( Oct 01 12:18:15 :( Oct 01 12:18:23 time to get a new phone Oct 01 12:18:28 http://mbeta.slashdot.org/ Oct 01 12:19:39 I now use an old one I dug from the bottom of a drawer, and I am positively surprised that it goes more than a week without recharge, even on a several years old battery and bluetooth on Oct 01 12:20:23 ohh a reboot is not working now :( Oct 01 12:21:06 well, it was fast in your case :( Oct 01 12:29:47 pavi_: if you try reflash, tell me whether it worked Oct 01 12:30:14 vi__, fortunately, after a few years, most people would prefer to use the N900 as a UMPC, and not as a phone anymore. Oct 01 12:30:55 still sucks that the chip gets loose/breaks/whatever, but for an aging device with numerous hardware faults, it's not surprising. Oct 01 12:30:57 edheldil, yeah sure , thats what I am doing .. just a small hope :( after all its my most favourite device :( Oct 01 12:33:45 * pavi_ wishes he could afford N9 now :( Oct 01 12:39:52 get a used N9, like I did Oct 01 12:41:50 still would be too expensive for me, I am afraid Oct 01 12:42:11 i paid 250e Oct 01 12:42:23 which was easy after selling that wretched galaxy nexus, after 2 weeks of torture Oct 01 12:43:43 hmm n9 has 2 sims???? Oct 01 12:44:04 * edheldil is doubtful Oct 01 12:48:09 n9 is not dual sim Oct 01 12:48:39 I thought so .. so the first one is a chinese fake as I suspected :) Oct 01 12:52:18 :D Oct 01 12:52:43 you can leave out the 'chinese' part, since wether its real or fake, its still a healthy percentage chinese! :) Oct 01 12:59:18 hehe. True Oct 01 13:00:32 but I meant that chinese (made for China/Sold from China) have often dual sims, unlike the european' ones Oct 01 13:05:36 i know, just teasing Oct 01 14:46:57 damn, I LOVE this 'phone' Oct 01 14:47:41 had to swap battery since I was too silly to lock screen when putting it into pouch Oct 01 14:47:52 which "phone"? Oct 01 14:48:04 (15 ays uptime ?-/ ) Oct 01 14:48:20 why didn't you charge it? Oct 01 14:48:30 on reboot hildon-desktop acted up Oct 01 14:48:55 but I got CSSU5 with my miniminifix Oct 01 14:49:28 so ctrl-shift-x, killall hildon-desktop. all fine again Oct 01 14:49:30 ? Oct 01 14:49:47 which minifix? Oct 01 14:49:47 CSSU-T Oct 01 14:49:51 and why did hildon-desktop act up? Oct 01 14:50:01 and why did you have to swap batteries? Oct 01 14:50:13 the 'don't reboot on hildon-desktop bork' Oct 01 14:50:28 i don't have that one :c Oct 01 14:50:37 because screen on for 8h Oct 01 14:50:45 so? charge it Oct 01 14:50:57 no charger around Oct 01 14:51:10 also my only battery survived about 4 hours of wifi monitor mode Oct 01 14:51:20 i noticed because the phone became warm Oct 01 14:51:34 ok, maybe two hours and a half Oct 01 14:51:37 :nod: Oct 01 14:51:57 actually, i noticed because it fucked with my bt headphones Oct 01 14:52:08 i had to restart bluetoothd and pulse to make them work afterwards Oct 01 14:52:41 eventually I should do a test and disable wjan-scan Oct 01 14:53:13 oh right, i don't have automatic wlan anymore Oct 01 14:53:19 because it screws with my bt headphones Oct 01 14:53:32 lol Oct 01 14:54:18 you got hidden APs configured? Oct 01 14:54:23 no Oct 01 14:54:37 Whenever it scans, bt drops out Oct 01 14:54:45 yep Oct 01 14:54:56 so I guess it's a problem only when WLAN active? Oct 01 14:55:03 duh Oct 01 14:55:28 But automatic wlan scan seems to fix up occurences of wlan consuming tons of power if you walk out of range of ap Oct 01 14:55:31 drop out means? Oct 01 14:55:39 The music skips Oct 01 14:56:06 how much? Oct 01 14:56:30 I know 0.5s dropouts Oct 01 14:56:34 Like if you punched an old sony walkman cd player Oct 01 14:56:49 Yeah about that Oct 01 14:56:49 :nod: Oct 01 14:57:01 yep, it's awful Oct 01 14:57:04 so fuck that Oct 01 14:57:15 CSSU!!!!! BUG!!! Oct 01 14:57:26 OH GOD I FORGOT TO ENABLE WLAN ON MY PHONE AND I'M LAYING DOWN Oct 01 14:57:30 HALP Oct 01 14:57:42 someone please come to my house and connect my n900 to the wifi Oct 01 14:57:44 I typically manually switch off wlan scan after I arrive at work (where I use bt headset/ad2p) Oct 01 14:57:56 ShadowJK: Too much work Oct 01 14:58:15 automate it Oct 01 14:58:15 Why not keep it on? Does not seem to interfere with bt too much Oct 01 14:58:35 I also check gsm-only mode, and sometimes also enable irc powersave and drop screen brightness a notch Oct 01 14:58:35 read backscroll! Oct 01 14:59:09 It interferes enough that entire words are lost when listening to speech Oct 01 14:59:25 Does not interfere here Oct 01 14:59:38 bbl, job done for today :) Oct 01 14:59:40 Only makes a bit of a jump when itactually connects or disconnects fromap Oct 01 15:00:08 it jumps when it scans too for me Oct 01 15:00:48 * RST38h sends the purple diarrhea beam towards Toshiba engineering team: how did they manage to make a keyboard where spacebar (!) does not work by design (!!) Oct 01 15:01:16 ShadowJK:Quiet and peaceful here, I wonder what the difference is Oct 01 15:01:52 on another topic, gpodder is giving me 403 on youtube :-/ Oct 01 15:02:18 youtube changed url format? Oct 01 15:03:00 dunno, old youtube-dl seems to still work Oct 01 15:03:27 "old" as in before time when gpodder stopped working Oct 01 15:09:56 hm, a new version in -devel :) Oct 01 15:27:55 hm still no worky :/ Oct 01 15:36:54 RST38h: other BT A2DP codec with your HS? Oct 01 15:37:09 more buffer? Oct 01 15:37:56 RST38h: has it delays when you start/stop music? Oct 01 15:39:10 does anyone know how to strip binutils/gcc while building cross toolchain? not using crosstool-ng ;) Oct 01 15:39:31 hmm? Oct 01 15:39:50 is there no strip? Oct 01 15:40:26 there is, but there are lots of binaries. And I prefer to use configure/make switch if available Oct 01 15:40:42 :nod: Oct 01 15:42:36 I build a new toolchain based on linaro gcc 4.7.2 2012.09, but it is huge :D Oct 01 15:42:40 *built Oct 01 15:51:35 freemangordon: btw, why does extkbd change /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/nokia_vndr/rx-51? Oct 01 15:51:43 and more importantly, why does it overwrite it? Oct 01 15:52:04 by design ;) Oct 01 15:52:14 it's a stupid design Oct 01 15:52:20 it doesn't even backup it Oct 01 15:52:20 make a better one Oct 01 15:52:28 wrong Oct 01 15:52:31 there is a backup Oct 01 15:52:39 i don't know why, but my own rx-51 wasn't in the backup Oct 01 15:52:43 i had to recover it from BM Oct 01 15:53:00 kerio: noone knows what shape is your device in Oct 01 15:53:08 even you Oct 01 15:53:16 yep Oct 01 15:53:23 that's why you should ASK THE USER >:c Oct 01 15:53:34 anyway, now i'm missing some of the symbols on the bt kbd, right? Oct 01 15:54:18 kerio: extkbd install newer version of xkb-data Oct 01 15:54:32 that is why rx51 is overwritten, as it is upstreamed Oct 01 15:54:37 oh, ok Oct 01 15:54:50 hm, why doesn't it effectively upgrade xkb-data? Oct 01 15:54:57 like, the package Oct 01 15:55:11 because of extras Oct 01 15:55:21 you don't have to put it in extras Oct 01 15:55:31 ship the deb in /opt and install it Oct 01 15:55:32 or something Oct 01 15:55:59 i mean, right now you're shipping a tarball, it's about the same Oct 01 15:56:37 kerio: wan't to be a maintainer of extkbd? Oct 01 15:56:42 *want Oct 01 15:56:48 hm Oct 01 15:57:05 i'd have to deal with the autobuilder Oct 01 15:57:08 no ty ;) Oct 01 15:57:23 hrmpf, "€" on the bt kbd doesn't work Oct 01 15:57:56 i wonder if there's an actual layout for *this* bt kbd Oct 01 15:58:34 there should be Oct 01 15:58:46 you mayu want to play with layout variants Oct 01 16:01:50 freemangordon: no "stowaway" or "igo" :( Oct 01 16:02:23 hmm, that is supported iirc Oct 01 16:02:43 yeah, most of the keys work Oct 01 16:03:08 like, pretty much every key works Oct 01 16:03:15 but i'm using the pc105 layout Oct 01 16:03:21 and it's not quite a pc105 Oct 01 16:05:49 meh, i'll live without the eur symbol and the yen symbol Oct 01 16:06:17 there are several variants of pc105, check language and variant Oct 01 16:06:37 i.e. play a bit with them, maybe choose UK instead of US Oct 01 16:07:31 are you kidding? UK is totally different Oct 01 16:07:37 # is on a separate key, for instance Oct 01 16:08:09 kerio: well, you have a plenty of keyboard variants, try them Oct 01 16:08:47 you have about 10 different layouts for USA pc105 Oct 01 16:09:49 hm, the standard pc105 is the one that appears to work best Oct 01 16:10:07 anyway, extkbd is really neat Oct 01 16:10:19 A+++ would kbd again Oct 01 16:11:07 kerio, which varian do you use? Oct 01 16:11:26 pc105 usa standard Oct 01 16:11:32 change to intl Oct 01 16:11:47 there is no standard Oct 01 16:12:24 all intl does is fuck up my ' and require me to type something after ~, ' and ` Oct 01 16:12:29 because it does automatic accent combination Oct 01 16:12:38 i meant variant None Oct 01 16:13:26 hehe, i wonder how many keys i can push at the same time Oct 01 16:13:30 i should try MAME with this kbd Oct 01 16:14:24 freemangordon: were there any changes to rx-51, btw? Oct 01 16:14:36 iirc no Oct 01 16:19:12 freemangordon: ooh, neat, you do install xkb-data-extkbd Oct 01 16:19:16 which somehow overwrites xkb-data Oct 01 16:20:12 yep Oct 01 16:24:56 sorry for doubting you <3 Oct 01 16:25:13 can extkbd also configure usb keyboards? Oct 01 16:25:30 yes Oct 01 16:26:35 DocScrutinizer05: how much current can you "legally" get via usb without negotiating or checking for fastchargers? Oct 01 16:26:53 and how much current can you pull from something that identifies as a charger? Oct 01 16:27:08 100 Oct 01 16:27:14 usually Oct 01 16:27:27 the latter undefined Oct 01 16:27:28 without negotiating? :o Oct 01 16:27:30 i thought it was like 10 Oct 01 16:27:42 nope, 100 Oct 01 16:27:45 like, just to power the tiny circuit that negotiates Oct 01 16:27:50 8 for OTG Oct 01 16:28:06 OTG on which side? Oct 01 16:28:16 on the A side obviously Oct 01 16:28:22 i see Oct 01 16:28:49 well, it's still silly Oct 01 16:29:04 why? Oct 01 16:29:27 well, because devices know they can ask for 100 and get it granted Oct 01 16:29:41 not if session suspended Oct 01 16:29:44 except that sometimes they don't Oct 01 16:30:26 meh, too weird for me :s Oct 01 16:43:59 kerio: well, you asked "without negotiation", so my answer regarding OTG was incorrect, since the session can suspend only by very special OTG negotiation, and initially I guess any OTG A device is suppoed to also deliver the 100 I quoted before Oct 01 16:44:16 i see Oct 01 16:46:07 OTG has a whitelist and a blacklist for defining which devices can work with the 150, 200, $whatever, that the OTG A Vbus can deliver Oct 01 16:46:17 We had to neuter that for h-e-n Oct 01 16:46:34 OTG is actually extremely screwed Oct 01 16:47:16 what do you mean which devices? Oct 01 16:47:40 e.g. hubs usually don't work with OTG at all Oct 01 16:48:10 hehe, to think that a hub is the only way you can get reliable auto-enumeration and power on the n900... Oct 01 16:48:47 then there are also devices blacklisted since they pull more than they negotiate Oct 01 16:49:11 are we talking about classes of devices? Oct 01 16:49:16 or actual device/model pairs? Oct 01 16:49:21 latter Oct 01 16:49:29 what the fuck Oct 01 16:49:32 in the standard itself? :s Oct 01 16:49:47 per model+driver Oct 01 16:50:17 I think the list is nowhere standarized, it's per manuf/model Oct 01 16:51:09 that's even worse! Oct 01 16:51:10 :S Oct 01 16:51:37 why do you keep telling me these things? Oct 01 16:51:41 and why do i keep asking? Oct 01 16:52:31 musb_hdrc: USB Host mode controller at ffc03800 using PIO, IRQ 59 >http://blackfin.uclinux.org/gf/project/uclinux-dist/forum/?_forum_action=ForumMessageBrowse&thread_id=38739&action=ForumBrowse Oct 01 16:52:41 err Oct 01 16:52:51 musb_hdrc: kernel must blacklist external hubs Oct 01 16:54:49 https://garage.maemo.org/plugins/ggit/browse.php/?p=h-e-n;a=commit;h=0a5777e676acb4eff0c02762edc5dcde98482702 Oct 01 16:55:37 >> Patch with which i had a limited success (my device was rejected during enumeration because i didn't have the whitelist disabled, but the VID/PID was properly read).<< Oct 01 17:06:21 freemangordon: the enter key doesn't repeat itself Oct 01 17:06:26 how can i see if it's a problem of the keyboard? Oct 01 17:09:35 heh, this kbd is silly Oct 01 17:09:39 shift+up is mapped to ? Oct 01 17:09:44 so i can't select going up Oct 01 17:09:45 only going down Oct 01 17:42:53 My telephony error wasnt fixed by flashing Oct 01 17:43:17 but by keeping a paper cusion between battery :O Oct 01 17:45:05 that may well only be a very temporary fix Oct 01 17:45:28 to be fair it shows that the SIM has a flaky connection Oct 01 17:47:23 no, it doesn't Oct 01 17:47:33 it shows that something does. Oct 01 17:48:04 k Oct 01 17:59:18 which usually is NOT the sim Oct 01 18:00:39 reflow all the solderings! _ò/ Oct 01 18:00:51 * DocScrutinizer05 idly wonders if 'SIM' error might get caused by pressing kbd too hard, thus breaking solder points under BGA chips by bending PCB Oct 01 18:04:01 seems pressing hard on "TYO" keys should kill GAIA instantly Oct 01 18:04:39 while "A" kills eMMC Oct 01 18:06:04 modem chips OTOH are not on backside of any kbd key Oct 01 18:09:07 "U" and "; " are opposite side of SIM-holder solder points Oct 01 18:09:12 hjk was most effective for reproducing crossed-out-sim Oct 01 18:10:20 "J" is actually opposite side of SIM colder points Oct 01 18:11:09 almost Oct 01 18:11:20 "U" is Oct 01 18:11:47 on the last csualty it doesnt matter, because it's always deadmodem, and simless emergency call doesnt work either Oct 01 19:00:16 ~seen pali Oct 01 19:00:25 pali <~pali@unaffiliated/pali> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo-ssu, 1d 2h 27m 50s ago, saying: 'DocScrutinizer51, see ^^^'. Oct 01 19:00:31 zomg Oct 01 19:03:57 deepy: how's it going? Oct 01 19:04:58 I keep forgetting to bring it to work Oct 01 19:06:03 D: Oct 01 19:39:03 how do I stop extkb from hosing my KB geometry? Oct 01 19:39:21 vi__: what is wrong with it? Oct 01 19:40:07 BTW which KBD? external or internal Oct 01 19:42:08 external BTKB Oct 01 19:42:13 BT KB Oct 01 19:42:24 and what is incorrect? Oct 01 19:42:30 using SPP profile instead of hid. Oct 01 19:42:44 aaah Oct 01 19:42:57 aaah? Oct 01 19:43:08 not supported by extkbd (iirc) Oct 01 19:43:18 and you should disable hid BT plugin Oct 01 19:43:24 It kind of worls. Oct 01 19:43:29 It kind of worKs. Oct 01 19:43:33 or even better -remove extkbd Oct 01 19:43:39 kind of? Oct 01 19:43:55 you can set a shortcut to change keymaps Oct 01 19:44:06 but? Oct 01 19:44:07 it works on the external kb Oct 01 19:45:24 kerio: don't highlight my master! Oct 01 19:45:30 infobot: k Oct 01 19:45:30 k is probably okay Oct 01 19:45:32