**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Oct 17 03:00:01 2012 Oct 17 04:46:50 hello Oct 17 04:47:55 i have a problem with u-boot for maemo. if i install uboot-pr13 from extras devel i can boot maemo but not nitdroid, if i install pali's uboot from maemo.org i can boot nitdroid but not maemo Oct 17 04:48:23 the kernel they use for booting is the same so i guess there is a problem with the bootloader Oct 17 04:48:42 pali's bootloader hangs at starting kernel ... and then reboots Oct 17 04:49:03 is there some option i have to pass to the kernel i'm not aware of? Oct 17 04:49:22 the maemo installation is a clean maemo5 for n900, global Oct 17 04:59:48 what hardware revision you have? Oct 17 05:09:33 Foo powe Oct 17 05:09:45 Anyone up in here knowledgable bout osso-xterm and bash errors? Oct 17 05:09:58 I got an issue with a script i wrote that launches osso-xterm but fails to launch route -en Oct 17 05:10:04 could really use some help here.. Oct 17 05:10:05 plz Oct 17 05:12:55 Would much appreciate the debugging help...will give credit for the kudos....? Oct 17 05:23:13 u guys suck Oct 17 05:23:16 just so ya know Oct 17 05:23:18 Sicelo: how can i check the revision Oct 17 05:26:44 anyone up in the mofo? Oct 17 05:28:42 lol Snafu777 Oct 17 05:28:50 Sicelo: revision 2204 Oct 17 05:29:47 foremost: known problem. i have same revision, and same problem. Pali & freemangordon were working on it.. i don't know current status Oct 17 05:31:06 nice, thanks for the info Oct 17 05:31:17 without recommending it, i think multiboot never had the problem, and was popular for nitdroid. Oct 17 05:31:39 i'd rather not reflesh my kernel twice a day Oct 17 05:31:48 Anyone here down to help for a sec? Oct 17 05:31:56 indeed. that's why i didn't recommend it :p Oct 17 05:32:06 also i tried to use it and once i flashed nitdroid i couldn't reflash maemo back Oct 17 05:32:17 I launch a command with osso-xterm and it doesnt recognize the route command Oct 17 05:32:48 chechk the path, if you are not root Oct 17 05:33:22 me? foremost Oct 17 05:33:26 yes Oct 17 05:33:31 not the issue Oct 17 05:33:36 hmm Oct 17 05:33:37 perhaps Oct 17 05:33:39 one sec Oct 17 05:38:59 nope Oct 17 05:39:01 isnt the issue Oct 17 05:39:05 i can run route as user Oct 17 05:39:17 U still there friend? Oct 17 05:40:41 what do youmean exactly by 'fails to launch'? Oct 17 05:42:05 Got an n900 handy? Oct 17 05:44:24 ? Oct 17 05:46:49 foremost ? Oct 17 05:47:05 i do Oct 17 05:47:36 sweet Oct 17 05:47:40 feel like troubleshootin for a sec Oct 17 05:47:43 im trying to figure this out Oct 17 05:47:45 but no dice Oct 17 05:48:38 Drop to a terminal Oct 17 05:48:41 and do Oct 17 05:48:43 svn checkout http://n900-stuff.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/hydrafy hydrafy Oct 17 05:48:48 let me know when u got it up eh? Oct 17 05:53:10 i'm sorry i really don't have that much time Oct 17 05:53:22 if you tell me the error message maybe i know Oct 17 05:53:30 if not i have to leave in 5 min Oct 17 05:53:36 its when osso-xterm is launched Oct 17 05:53:40 and route -en is ran Oct 17 05:53:44 route is not found Oct 17 05:53:49 but launching it is an issue Oct 17 05:53:55 it requires u to see the script to understand Oct 17 05:54:19 because of the goofiness of launching a text based script with a gui from /usr/share/applications/hildon/ Oct 17 09:16:10 Hey guys! Anyone knows if http://formeego.org is still alive? Oct 17 09:16:11 Since several days Oct 17 09:16:11 http://apps.formeego.org/ Oct 17 09:16:11 shows the error: Oct 17 09:16:11 " Oct 17 09:16:13 504 Gateway Time-out Oct 17 09:16:15 nginx/1.2.1 Oct 17 09:16:17 " Oct 17 09:16:19 and Oct 17 09:16:21 http://www.formeego.org/ Oct 17 09:16:23 " Oct 17 09:16:25 Sorry, maintenance in progress! Oct 17 09:16:27 Our server had an hardware fault. Replacement hardware was delivered. We will be back online soon. Oct 17 09:16:29 " Oct 17 09:16:31 are they really under maintenance or has just shut down? Oct 17 10:05:06 hi, i have a problem, i brick my phone with multiboot >_< i have a boot loop with kernel power 49, pr13 (flashed with flasher and started with multiboot and flasher) and kernel power 51 :( Oct 17 10:05:43 for me ego Oct 17 10:07:27 i flashed with the only-kernel option, tried pr13, 49 and 51 and started with "init=/sbin/preinit_orig ubi.mtd=rootfs root=ubi0:rootfs rootfstype=ubifs rootflags=bulk_read,no_chk_data_crc rw console=ttyMTD,log console=tty0 snd-soc-rx51.hp_lim=42 snd-soc-tlv320aic3x.hp_dac_lim=6" but no chance to get it working Oct 17 10:09:54 any idea :( Oct 17 10:12:25 jaska: me ego? :P Oct 17 10:13:37 ma emo & me ego + harm at tan Oct 17 10:13:52 heh Oct 17 10:14:23 sad how nokia went to windows Oct 17 10:14:33 business crap Oct 17 10:14:41 i always thought of maemo as mämo Oct 17 10:15:14 emo, ego and harm... ugh Oct 17 10:15:23 sounds harm-ful Oct 17 10:15:45 suicidal? Oct 17 10:17:12 you know, we have such term as "estonian nokia" that refers to some success... now with e-flop, that might as well refer to some failure Oct 17 10:18:16 maybe jolla devices in future Oct 17 10:18:30 or you can hack those windows devices to run something else? Oct 17 10:22:33 eek: flash the whole thing Oct 17 10:23:11 wp is no a failure Oct 17 10:23:30 they are getting quite a lot of market with it Oct 17 10:23:43 not a failure* Oct 17 10:24:29 jacekowski: done QQ without a backup waaaa Oct 17 10:24:46 damn multiboot Oct 17 10:25:06 eek: most important stuff is on emmc Oct 17 10:25:14 eek: you can skip flashing that part Oct 17 10:25:19 as in, mydocs is on emmc Oct 17 10:25:38 jacekowski: no, i flashed the card before with ubuntu 12.04 Oct 17 10:25:44 m( Oct 17 10:26:31 not sd card, emmc Oct 17 10:26:38 builtin 32G Oct 17 10:27:03 ah ok Oct 17 10:29:59 cool i love the n900, contacts and sms still exist :D Oct 17 10:31:18 canonical seems to be working in an ubuntu phone, they're looking for a project manager Oct 17 10:33:34 like that's going to work Oct 17 10:35:18 dunno, but if it works, I migh go for one Oct 17 10:35:53 of course we're not talking about next year Oct 17 10:36:09 or next 20 years Oct 17 10:36:15 heeh Oct 17 10:36:32 ubuntu has no market share on desktops Oct 17 10:36:38 and they are trying with phones Oct 17 10:44:33 ubuntu :< Oct 17 12:05:55 what is the main reason for the n900 missing calls? Oct 17 12:06:15 Is the 'phone' application being swapped out or something? Oct 17 12:07:26 how does it miss calls Oct 17 12:07:46 eek: why are you using multiboot Oct 17 12:07:48 it's awful Oct 17 12:12:55 jacekowski: ubuntu used to be the distro techies install on non-techies' computers Oct 17 12:13:02 now that's probably mint Oct 17 12:25:59 SpeedEvil: the phone program appears for about 0.5 seconds then I have a missed call. Oct 17 12:26:17 Or sometimes, it just suddenly appears, missed call. Oct 17 12:27:52 never seen that Oct 17 12:28:03 I have received perhaps 5 calls Oct 17 12:36:13 forever alone? Oct 17 12:38:01 forever a phone Oct 17 12:39:00 where is the ohmd config file? Oct 17 12:40:35 the one that sets cpu shares and stuff Oct 17 12:43:41 /usr/share/policy/etc/rx51/syspart.conf Oct 17 12:45:23 SpeedEvil: is /usr/bin/hildon-sv-notification-daemon Oct 17 12:45:45 SpeedEvil: is hildon-sv-notification-daemon anything to do with phone program? Oct 17 12:46:05 * ShadowJK has never experienced "phone program appears for about .5 seconds then missed call" Oct 17 12:46:42 but under heavy system load I've had vibrating phone and ringtone and no visible phone app for many seconds Oct 17 12:46:49 I did not use to either, now it has happened 3-4 times in 3-4 days. Oct 17 12:57:32 I'm trying out easy debian and it gives me the choice: v3e, Estel and sulu. What are the differences? Can't find it anywhere :\ Oct 17 13:03:11 estel and sulu are based on v3e Oct 17 13:03:38 estel+sulu are updated to wheeze or squeezy ir whatever the last one was. Oct 17 13:03:51 squeeze or wheezy ;) Oct 17 13:04:21 estel is based on sulu. Oct 17 13:04:32 so which one should I install? :\ Oct 17 13:04:38 estel has libreoffice. Oct 17 13:04:40 ... Oct 17 13:04:49 akls estel probably. Oct 17 13:05:16 akls? Oct 17 13:05:25 akls: estel probably. Oct 17 13:05:34 oh, sorry Oct 17 13:05:41 anyway, off to buy a house! Later! Oct 17 13:05:47 sigh. Oct 17 13:05:56 sigh? Oct 17 13:06:04 I can just about afford a $2 suit. Oct 17 13:06:11 no job? Oct 17 13:06:16 student? Oct 17 13:06:17 shit wage. Oct 17 13:06:22 ah Oct 17 13:06:25 change jobs Oct 17 13:06:27 although shit wage>no job. Oct 17 13:06:28 change countries Oct 17 13:06:34 teotwaki: I will be. Oct 17 13:06:40 fuck it, change continents Oct 17 13:06:55 has allowed me to get a very good paygrade with virtually no diploma to speak of Oct 17 13:06:56 Just got to wait for mrs vi_ to get her PHD. Oct 17 13:07:00 ah Oct 17 13:07:14 teotwaki: You remind me of an ex-flatmate. Oct 17 13:07:24 I know the feeling, am waiting for my better half to get her master's Oct 17 13:15:31 why is there a back seek penalty value for the eMMC. Oct 17 13:15:35 ? Oct 17 13:15:55 I would have thought there would be no penalty to back seek for flash. Oct 17 13:18:46 vi_: only if you have noop, iirc Oct 17 13:18:50 Hi there. I'm trying to install maemo-pan, but which is not possible (unmet dependency of bluez-utils). If I google around a bit, I found out that 'bluez' (which is already installed in the latest version) replaced 'bluez-utils'. Both packages conflict. How can I install a bluetooth PAN now? Oct 17 13:18:51 teotwaki: which continent did you change to? Oct 17 13:19:13 deepy: i'm from europe, did asia, northern america, australia. Oct 17 13:19:22 back in europe now Oct 17 13:19:52 I've been tempted to leave Europe for Asia/AUS Oct 17 13:19:58 i'm 26, btw Oct 17 13:20:33 anyway, bbl Oct 17 13:22:23 Ciao Oct 17 13:23:27 26 Oct 17 13:23:31 and buying a house. Oct 17 13:23:54 If I start now, maybe my grand kids can have a leantoo shack behind the sewage works. Oct 17 13:24:29 DatLicht: maemo-pan is a maemo4 package that some knucklehead stuck into the fremantle autobuilder. Oct 17 13:24:37 yep, prices always go up, inflation faster than salary increment :( Oct 17 13:24:57 If you doo manage to force install it, you will need a fully qualified wizard to uninstall it. Oct 17 13:25:07 and it does not work anyway. Oct 17 13:25:14 vi_, ah okay that explains something. Any other package that does the job? Oct 17 13:25:34 DatLicht: everything you need is already on the n900. Oct 17 13:25:55 (btw, if that would screw up my n900, it's good that it's not possible to install it...) Oct 17 13:26:13 DatLicht: I force installed it... Oct 17 13:26:40 I have a N900. And I have a PAN server that perfectly works with my Win7 laptop computer. But it doesn't use the PAN service Oct 17 13:26:46 I had to write a script with the same name as the maemo-pan daemon so the uninstall script would have something to kill. Oct 17 13:27:26 you need to edit /etc/bluetooth/main.conf Oct 17 13:27:58 and remove 'networking' from the list of disabled modules. Oct 17 13:28:08 then reboot. Oct 17 13:28:39 You can then manually configure the bluetooth device to connect to the pan. Oct 17 13:29:14 interesting. can the N900 also handle BT mice and keyboards? (have both, but can't connect to my N900) Oct 17 13:29:22 DatLicht: read this: Oct 17 13:29:24 http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=47201 Oct 17 13:29:33 DatLicht: It certainly can! Oct 17 13:29:48 I have never tried a BT mouse personally though. Oct 17 13:30:20 you just need to install the extkbd and extmou packages. Oct 17 13:30:52 be warned, extkbd will overwrite your rx-51 keymap. Oct 17 13:31:03 So if you have modified it, make a backup. Oct 17 13:31:13 be warned, INSTALLING extkbd will overwrite your rx-51 keymap. Oct 17 13:31:19 So if you have modified it, make a backup. Oct 17 13:33:17 also, if your BT KB is spp you will need to also install the kbdd package. Oct 17 13:33:34 hmmm. that means I have to access i.e. the numbers via alt-qwer... on my external keyboard? Oct 17 13:33:52 DatLicht: wut? Oct 17 13:34:03 Your external kb will have a seperate key map. Oct 17 13:34:25 ah ... sorry, I misunderstood that. thanks for explaining Oct 17 13:34:27 the extkbd package will let you select the keymap of your external kb. Oct 17 13:36:07 nice. Oct 17 13:42:12 woop Oct 17 13:42:16 first time it crashed Oct 17 13:44:32 hmmm. PAN doesn't seem to work. I removed 'network' in the main.conf and rebooted the device. then I paired computer (PAN server) and N900. Then I tried 'ifconfig bnep0 up 192.168.220.10' (as .1 is my server). --> 'no such device' Oct 17 13:47:00 I also added bnep0 into my /etc/network/interfaces Oct 17 13:48:50 I am a bit rusty with this. Oct 17 13:49:12 DatLicht: PAN support is... flaky Oct 17 13:49:16 ifconfig bnep0 up Oct 17 13:49:27 ifconfig bnep0 Oct 17 13:49:35 for instance, there's no pand Oct 17 13:50:22 no such device means bnep0 is not present. Oct 17 13:50:37 dont you have to use hciconfig to start iot or something? Oct 17 13:51:48 huh? in the link you described ther's a step-by-step tutorial by sebhack. I did exactly what he wrote, but doesn't work Oct 17 13:54:03 if I type hciconfig, there's a device named hci0: UART and some statistics Oct 17 13:54:11 kerio: http://i.imgur.com/nRJQY.jpg Oct 17 15:00:07 lol, n900 is fucking funny :D Oct 17 15:00:19 you can call one person several times Oct 17 15:00:28 making other calls becoming on hold :D Oct 17 15:01:16 you can do that with every phone Oct 17 15:01:34 lol Oct 17 15:01:42 why? Oct 17 15:01:44 :D Oct 17 15:04:01 "I miss you so much so I will double-call you!! Oct 17 15:04:05 " Oct 17 15:04:27 Yo akls, I heard you like phonecalls so I'm gonna call you in the middle of your call Oct 17 17:43:13 Pali: ping Oct 17 17:52:56 freemangordon, pong Oct 17 18:01:17 Pali: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2012-10-16.log.html#t2012-10-16T20:39:12 Oct 17 18:01:29 in case you've missed it Oct 17 18:01:54 v Oct 17 18:03:03 ~v Oct 17 18:03:04 Portable C++ GUI Framework. URL: http://objectcentral.com/ Oct 17 18:03:12 hmm Oct 17 18:03:13 ok Oct 17 18:06:08 typo. sorry :$ Oct 17 18:20:06 about that bash/messybox thingy, I don't think bash as shell causes a rebootloop but I think the gnu-tools are the problem indeed Oct 17 18:57:24 Hi. Is it possible to use a mini simcard in my N900? Oct 17 18:57:33 I mean easily. :) Oct 17 18:58:00 yeah Oct 17 18:59:05 position the simcard where it should be, and then stick a bit of tape from the other side Oct 17 18:59:08 Because joikuspot on my N9 drops the ap setup for a long phone call. Oct 17 18:59:32 or, you can get adapters for like Â£1 from ebay Oct 17 19:00:11 so I thought I would be using another mini simcard in my N900 for calling when getting the mobile internet on my laptop from the N9. Oct 17 19:00:58 I currently live in a town. Money does not matter, but I would need an adapter asap. :) Oct 17 19:01:16 is it available in shops, stores, etc? Oct 17 19:06:25 probably cellphone shops Oct 17 19:06:45 it's kind of a "specialized" item, but it's cheap Oct 17 19:14:27 djszapiN9: amazon, with next day shipping Oct 17 19:14:57 and very likely that you can get it in a shop Oct 17 19:31:04 merlin1991: rotfl? http://www.denx.de/wiki/view/DULG/UBootCommandLineInterface Oct 17 19:33:31 pffff Oct 17 19:33:54 bought an chinese "desktop" battery charger Oct 17 19:34:29 station, or whatever. Uses the original nokia wall charger for power Oct 17 19:35:03 I get only 85% charge and it takes longer than with ph[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[Done Oct 17 19:35:32 but so does the official I think (not fully charged) Oct 17 19:59:44 ~seen DocScrutinizer05 Oct 17 19:59:52 docscrutinizer05 is currently on #maemo (16h 55m 43s) #n9 (16h 55m 43s) #harmattan (16h 55m 43s) #meego (16h 55m 43s) #openmoko (16h 55m 43s) #maemo-ssu (16h 55m 43s) #infobot (16h 55m 43s) #openmoko-cdevel (16h 55m 43s). Has said a total of 1 messages. Is idling for 28m 48s, last said: 'merlin1991: rotfl? http://www.denx.de/wiki/view/DULG/UBootCommandLineInterface'. Oct 17 20:31:18 new u-boot for nokia n900 is here: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=81613 Oct 17 20:31:41 it has disabled onenand support which fixed non bootable kernels on non 2101 hw revs Oct 17 20:32:12 kerio, this is should be interesting for you ^^^ Oct 17 20:32:52 and u-boot-update-bootmenu look for zImages in /opt/boot too Oct 17 20:33:29 /opt/boot ... wow. nice :) Oct 17 20:33:32 /opt = second partition on emmc, ext3? Oct 17 20:33:41 oh no, nvm Oct 17 20:33:47 * kerio read that wrong Oct 17 20:34:08 Pali: do you reckon things will go wrong if i symlink /boot to /opt/boot? Oct 17 20:34:55 kerio, shell script trying to find file in /boot or in /opt/boot Oct 17 20:35:03 symlinks should work without problem Oct 17 20:36:25 i mean so that the bootimgs will install themselves in /opt/boot automatically Oct 17 20:36:47 ooh, this way Oct 17 20:36:52 kerio, uImages (from zImages) are still generated to MyDocs Oct 17 20:36:57 (to subdir) Oct 17 20:37:29 but packages like kernel-*-bootimg can install bootimages to /opt/boot instead of /boot Oct 17 20:37:48 yeah but they don't :) Oct 17 20:37:50 I don't feel like replacing /boot by a symlink was a particularly nice idea Oct 17 20:38:12 DocScrutinizer51: yeah, it doesn't feel right Oct 17 20:38:16 DocScrutinizer51, I do not care about it Oct 17 20:38:24 but then again, it's not exactly used by fremantle Oct 17 20:38:41 Pali: maybe not you Oct 17 20:39:09 FHS doesn't suggest this Oct 17 20:39:29 ok Oct 17 20:39:31 lol fhs Oct 17 20:39:45 Pali: you still haven't released the kernelless uboot image though :s Oct 17 20:40:05 kerio, yes released Oct 17 20:40:19 look http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pali/u-boot/ Oct 17 20:40:38 oh, the bootimg? Oct 17 20:40:51 yep, there it is Oct 17 20:40:52 :3 Oct 17 20:40:58 indeed a uBoot with ubi support, to laod kernel from /boot/maemokernel.bin Oct 17 20:41:19 DocScrutinizer51, not possible (yet), because nand code not working Oct 17 20:41:30 :-\ Oct 17 20:41:35 freemangordon tried to fix it, but without success Oct 17 20:41:43 i c Oct 17 20:41:47 and I do not have time for it... Oct 17 20:41:50 hmm, what kernel does this uboot ship with? Oct 17 20:41:59 but emmc and sd is enought Oct 17 20:42:15 Sicelo, stock pr1.3 Oct 17 20:42:26 thanks. let me see Oct 17 20:44:37 and u-boot-update-bootmenu now detect kernel version in attached image Oct 17 20:45:05 kerio, so you can flash other combined image and u-boot-update-bootmenu will extract your kernel version :-) Oct 17 20:45:24 neat Oct 17 20:45:38 Pali: is there anything that depends on u-boot-flasher? Oct 17 20:46:01 because i'm not going to install that Oct 17 20:46:04 fiasco-image-update-ask and u-boot-utils Oct 17 20:46:13 depends *on* Oct 17 20:46:27 er, well Oct 17 20:46:31 ah, nothing depends on u-boot-flasher Oct 17 20:46:37 phew :3 Oct 17 20:47:01 but -flasher depends on above two packages Oct 17 20:51:06 Pali: hmm, aren't zImages gzip-compressed? Oct 17 20:51:11 what does z stand for? Oct 17 20:51:48 kerio, zImage is: bootable gunzip decompresser with attached gzipped kernel image Oct 17 20:53:16 Pali: the "combined.bin" that u-boot-gen-combined creates isn't a fiasco image, is it Oct 17 20:53:43 it is not fiasco image Oct 17 20:54:04 how do i flash it, then? Oct 17 21:02:04 Pali.. \m/ \m/ Oct 17 21:02:14 Pali: oh ok, dne Oct 17 21:02:16 *done Oct 17 21:02:17 works perfectly. thakns :) Oct 17 21:02:24 start softupd, flasher --local -k combined.bin -f Oct 17 21:02:26 :D Oct 17 21:02:33 kerio, generate fiasco image Oct 17 21:02:39 Pali: pff, lame Oct 17 21:02:48 because that will remove version from CAL Oct 17 21:02:50 it only fails with my PK50, otherwise Debian, Nemo, & Maemo boot fine Oct 17 21:03:12 kerio, you will have unknown in osso-product-info after reboot Oct 17 21:03:31 Sicelo, is stock pr1.3 working? Oct 17 21:03:32 Pali: nah, i set it again :) Oct 17 21:03:40 welp, here goes nothing Oct 17 21:04:10 Pali: btw, u-boot-update-bootmenu didn't use the version string from the kernel :c Oct 17 21:04:12 yes pali. only pk50 has't worked for me yet. but stock & nemo's kernels work well :) Oct 17 21:04:32 Sicelo, update kernel-power :-) Oct 17 21:05:03 hmm, so this uboot won't work with KP50? Oct 17 21:05:07 Pali: yay, it's booting with the slider closed Oct 17 21:05:22 Sicelo, it should Oct 17 21:05:48 but maybe you have something wrong with kp instalation Oct 17 21:05:48 Pali: what if i delete bootmenu.scr? Oct 17 21:05:55 regenerate it Oct 17 21:06:00 u-boot-update-bootmenu Oct 17 21:06:17 no, i mean Oct 17 21:06:20 is it *required*' Oct 17 21:06:21 ? Oct 17 21:06:28 do i get a generic menu if i don't have it Oct 17 21:06:28 ? Oct 17 21:06:31 kerio, if u-boot not find it, then you will have default bootmenu Oct 17 21:06:45 default bootmenu contains: attached kernel, emmc boot, sd boot, console Oct 17 21:07:10 are any of those except "attached kernel" actually useful? Oct 17 21:07:55 emmc and sd boot trying to find first uImage or boot.scr script on some fat32 ext2/3 or ext4 partition Oct 17 21:07:59 btw, i notice that /lib/modules/current still points to 2.6.28.10-power50 even though i'm on omap1. Oct 17 21:08:36 Sicelo, kernel-power patching /sbin/preinit, so current symlink is ignored Oct 17 21:09:03 kewl Oct 17 21:09:15 Pali: hmm, maybe it's because i called my zImage "zImage" instead of "zImage-2.6.28.10-power52" Oct 17 21:09:22 modprobe detecting module directory Oct 17 21:09:51 kerio, ah, you need to run u-boot-update-bootmenu as root Oct 17 21:09:58 Pali: ...ooooh Oct 17 21:10:01 if you want to detect name in /dev/mtd Oct 17 21:10:13 user has no read access to /dev/mtd* Oct 17 21:10:18 yep, it worked now :) Oct 17 21:10:33 still, should the image name be more than "zImage"? Oct 17 21:10:45 i suspect my issue with KP50 is a bad *.item file.. Pali, what cmd_line should i append? Oct 17 21:10:51 kerio, it does not depends on name Oct 17 21:11:03 Pali: i know, but it feels... untidy Oct 17 21:11:04 Sicelo, no cmdline Oct 17 21:11:37 brb Oct 17 21:13:06 Pali: btw, if the slider is closed the default action is still to boot the attached kernel, right? Oct 17 21:13:18 kerio, no Oct 17 21:13:29 default is to boot kernel configured by default Oct 17 21:13:37 in bootmenu.scr? i see Oct 17 21:13:48 and if you not configured any default kernel, then it is attached Oct 17 21:13:55 kerio, see first post in u-boot thread Oct 17 21:14:08 there is written how to change default bootmenu entry Oct 17 21:14:30 so it's still kinda unsafe to bundle uboot with kernel-power... Oct 17 21:14:31 >:D Oct 17 21:14:50 worked like a charm. ;) Oct 17 21:15:36 i don't know if this is a 'bug' -- but my N900 loses time each boot now :-/ Oct 17 21:15:47 does it happen to you kerio? Oct 17 21:17:07 you mean if you pull the battery? Oct 17 21:17:15 ...boy, i hope not Oct 17 21:17:22 Mohammad-: an SGS3? Oct 17 21:17:23 or this backup is going to be st00pid Oct 17 21:17:38 not pulling battery out. but a 'normal' reboot Oct 17 21:21:03 Sicelo: rebooting quickly can sometimes cause that Oct 17 21:24:40 when renoot causes losing seconds, then there's a fat bug in some initscript Oct 17 21:24:50 reboot* Oct 17 21:25:18 DocScrutinizer05: i was thinking of some extreme condition setting the "welp, clock's botched" bit Oct 17 21:25:46 I'd not be surprised to find Nokia was silly enough to write systime to hwclock on shutdown Oct 17 21:26:01 when should they write it? Oct 17 21:26:16 ??? you're kidding? Oct 17 21:26:40 it's typical to write it to hwclock on shutdown in all linux distro :) Oct 17 21:26:53