**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Oct 18 03:00:02 2012 Oct 18 03:19:34 isnt it quite logical to unmaximize window if you try to move it? Oct 18 03:22:36 anyways, in 4.9.2, system settings -> window behaviour Oct 18 03:22:58 titlebar and window actions Oct 18 03:57:30 the point is that I don't try to move window, when I click and drag into e.g. Komversation's /topic text. While it works for text in between, it unmaximizes window when I try to start highlightinh shprtly left of first word Oct 18 03:58:05 highlighting shortly left* Oct 18 03:58:35 anyway thanls :-) Oct 18 04:07:12 alas no friggin option for that in 4.7.2 (or I didn't see it) Oct 18 04:12:23 mm, never seen such behavior, but sometimes kde behaves funny when you have old enough configurations for it Oct 18 04:12:45 anyone interested in ngrep for the n900? Oct 18 07:29:16 hi Oct 18 07:29:28 know this may sound rathe dumb... but are there any lte symbian phones? :) Oct 18 07:35:44 Why do you want LTE? it's a battery drainer! Oct 18 07:50:15 speed? Oct 18 07:54:57 What good is that when you're out of battery? Oct 18 07:55:17 i dont think Nokia has any hardware suppliers that supply LTE stuff Oct 18 10:06:02 Nokia has STE Oct 18 10:06:15 google NovaThor Oct 18 10:07:19 LTE is less of a battery hog than UMTS Oct 18 10:07:35 but umts sounds like a cheap bass speaker Oct 18 10:07:38 umts umts umts umts Oct 18 11:20:20 DocScrutinizer51: where you live it is just BS (LTE) Oct 18 13:13:01 chem|st: hmm? Oct 18 13:23:08 DocScrutinizer51: LTE in germany is nuts atm Oct 18 13:28:14 here are binaries in maemo which using libbmeipc: http://pastebin.com/Z2K1npJP Oct 18 13:33:02 here are functions from libbmeipc: http://pastebin.com/Ye0ND5yn Oct 18 13:38:43 and here are for each libbmeipc function list of libraries which using it: http://pastebin.com/80XD55er Oct 18 14:01:11 so only one relevant closed libary usr/lib/pulse-0.9.15/modules/module-nokia-voice.so using libbmeipc (functions: bme_connect, bme_disconnect, bme_read, bme_write) Oct 18 14:02:03 testserver is running only in LOCAL or TEST mode (and I think this SW is used by phoenix for calibration) Oct 18 14:02:19 libthermalobject_surface is open source Oct 18 14:02:27 and hald-addon-bme was rewritten Oct 18 14:03:52 freemangordon, see ^^^^ Oct 18 14:14:09 teotwaki, you've alerted Jolla. :P Oct 18 14:14:20 GeneralAntilles: I know. Oct 18 14:14:29 Though, my statement still stands: It's vapourware. Oct 18 14:14:32 What makes you say vaporware? Oct 18 14:14:47 Aside from the obvious. Oct 18 14:14:49 well, at the moment, they don't sell anything, just dreams. Oct 18 14:15:11 And in my opinion, they should've stfu and kept things a bit more quiet that how vocal they've been Oct 18 14:15:19 teotwaki, so, basically, any announcement of product not immediately available is vaporware? Oct 18 14:15:24 they're going to lose the traction before getting traction ever even mattered. Oct 18 14:15:42 Well, platform reveal is next month. Oct 18 14:15:49 Hardware announcement is in December. Oct 18 14:15:57 flux: by definition, yes. Oct 18 14:16:10 teotwaki, well, it's not a very good definition. I don't think it used to mean that. Oct 18 14:16:41 how long has jolla been visible anyway? Oct 18 14:16:50 "The term also generally applies to a product that is announced months or years before its release, and for which public development details are lacking." Oct 18 14:16:54 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware Oct 18 14:17:20 Check the page edits, I didn't just add that quickly to support my statement Oct 18 14:17:26 teotwaki, yes, it's a matter of scale. but how long has it been, really? Oct 18 14:17:48 Well, you can look at the core stuff in Mer. Oct 18 14:18:40 flux: 6 months? A year? Oct 18 14:18:54 I'm actually asking, I don't have a clue Oct 18 14:19:40 GeneralAntilles: remember the project I nagged you about? Oct 18 14:20:18 teotwaki, vaguely Oct 18 14:20:40 GeneralAntilles: are you familiar with the words introspection and reflection? Oct 18 14:21:18 July Oct 18 14:21:27 I have a problem with easy debian. If I run "apt-get upgrade" it starts updating and everything is ok, but after 15 minutes it hangs and then reboots. what's wrong? Oct 18 14:21:28 teotwaki, from a philosophical context? Oct 18 14:22:02 GeneralAntilles: in programming languages... Oct 18 14:22:20 Less so. Oct 18 14:23:13 bleh Oct 18 14:23:27 how the hell did you get your degree? Oct 18 14:23:41 I haven't yet. :P Oct 18 14:23:54 anyway, here's an example of reflection used in mah project: https://github.com/teotwaki/firestarter/blob/db-layer/src/modules/examples/persistance/persistance.cpp Oct 18 14:25:50 don't mind the misspelled "persistance", I got carried away with a's when I created the examples directory : Oct 18 14:26:07 akls: too much work for your 600MHz ARM processor, and it's limited ram. why don't you do it by parts? Oct 18 14:26:19 Sicelo: what a load of bollocks is that Oct 18 14:26:36 Sicelo, alright. how can I do it in parts? Oct 18 14:26:39 teotwaki, OK, so how does this relate to Jolla being vapor? Oct 18 14:26:40 any easy way? Oct 18 14:26:43 GeneralAntilles: not at all Oct 18 14:26:55 akls: just check whether you still have space on the disk you're using Oct 18 14:27:18 teotwaki, hmmm Oct 18 14:27:26 akls, on n900 I have about 28 gb free Oct 18 14:27:29 that should be enough Oct 18 14:27:33 no Oct 18 14:27:40 you have 28gb free on one partition Oct 18 14:27:41 but maybe easy debian has its own limit? Oct 18 14:27:43 check the / partition Oct 18 14:28:11 * Sicelo shrugs Oct 18 14:28:12 I don't know what/how easydeb mounts stuff, but check it doesn't mount some stupidly small block partition Oct 18 14:28:32 anyway Oct 18 14:28:39 off to buy a house and two new motorbikes, 'later. Oct 18 14:28:47 teotwaki, again? Oct 18 14:29:19 akls: well, turns out buying a house is a multistep process. Apparently they won't accept a credit card. Oct 18 14:29:27 :D Oct 18 14:29:57 akls: it is your WD kicking, install swappolube and tweak nr_request parameter Oct 18 14:30:06 *nr_requests Oct 18 14:30:17 make it > 1024 Oct 18 14:30:24 swappolube and fapman Oct 18 14:30:40 and they wonder why Maemo never appealed to the public at large. Oct 18 14:30:40 fapman? for ED ? Oct 18 14:31:01 freemangordon: no, sorry, just the names. Oct 18 14:31:17 hehe Oct 18 14:31:41 akls: also move swap ot uSD (if possible) Oct 18 14:32:05 uSD? Oct 18 14:32:21 SD card Oct 18 14:32:49 u stands for "micro" Oct 18 14:33:04 µSD Oct 18 14:33:14 exactly Oct 18 14:33:27 doesn't make any sense Oct 18 14:33:37 microSD isn't any faster than phone memory Oct 18 14:33:41 so why would it help Oct 18 14:33:58 trust me (tm) on that Oct 18 14:34:00 akls: bigger Oct 18 14:34:04 naah Oct 18 14:34:11 it used different I/O bus Oct 18 14:34:17 i wish they had put real 1024MB ram instead of crummy swap :| Oct 18 14:34:18 ah, nice Oct 18 14:34:21 or even 512 Oct 18 14:34:25 would have made a world of difference Oct 18 14:34:45 akls: so there are no clashes with your /opt and /home Oct 18 14:34:51 well, we all wish there was any other device besides n900 Oct 18 14:34:59 teotwaki: most probably they won't accept *your* credit card :) Oct 18 14:34:59 yeah :| Oct 18 14:35:17 akls: exclude me from those "all", please :P Oct 18 14:35:30 freemangordon, why? Oct 18 14:36:10 because my n900 does everything I want from it, so I don;t need another device Oct 18 14:36:27 i could use a kbd with more keys, more ram Oct 18 14:36:47 or atleast a kbd where the matrix doesnt ovelap as much, some keycombos arent possible Oct 18 14:37:07 n950 has larger kbd, 4 rows, and trust me, the one on n900 is better. and I can always attach BT keyboard when I want more keys Oct 18 14:37:19 like shift-fn-z and shift-fn-x bug out Oct 18 14:37:40 (with a custom xkb map) Oct 18 14:37:52 with extkbd :P Oct 18 14:38:27 not really interested in bt kbds.. just made a layout that removes some useless things and map more stuff behind shift-fn-something Oct 18 14:42:36 bt keyboard are annoying in the way you need 2-3 hands more to use them ;) Oct 18 14:44:43 hmm, why is that? I don't see any difference with my desktop. Oct 18 14:45:07 Yes but if I have a desk I use computer Oct 18 14:46:10 sure, the point is that there are lots of real life scenarios when n900 + BT kbd/mouse does the job pretty well Oct 18 14:46:20 being on a holiday for example Oct 18 14:46:39 for some people perhaps. Oct 18 14:47:51 the N900 hwkbd is nice though i think Oct 18 14:47:53 my keycaps are getting so worn that the backlight shines thru :) Oct 18 14:48:52 had that on my previous n900 :) Oct 18 14:49:00 well, only R and T so far Oct 18 14:49:01 and also the s key had lost tactile feedback Oct 18 14:49:11 not sure why those two speficially Oct 18 14:50:20 jaska: that happened on my warranty replacement very quickly Oct 18 14:50:34 this is my first n900 so far Oct 18 14:50:49 * ShadowJK is on his third Oct 18 14:51:10 * freemangordon is on his first :) Oct 18 14:51:23 i know 2 people with unused ones so i can always buy from them cheapish :) Oct 18 14:51:24 and strangely all the painting is still intact Oct 18 14:51:48 one scratch on a corner from a drop Oct 18 14:51:52 after 2 and a half years Oct 18 14:52:04 not sure why people said it scratches on the screen easily Oct 18 14:52:13 because it does Oct 18 14:52:17 it is soft Oct 18 14:52:34 hmm, mine hasnt so far <.< Oct 18 14:52:41 *cross fingers* Oct 18 14:52:42 how can I use autocompletion with virtual keyboard? Oct 18 14:52:51 n900's screen is easily scratchable indeed Oct 18 14:52:54 akls: enable it Oct 18 14:53:12 might be that i carry it in a htc belt container.. just had to stretch it a bit to fit the mugen backcover Oct 18 14:53:14 freemangordon, I start typing it, then it suggests me something.. and? Oct 18 14:53:24 click the blue part Oct 18 14:53:25 if I press SPACE, it erases the suggestion Oct 18 14:53:28 oh! Oct 18 14:53:32 I had to ask for that one too :D Oct 18 14:53:56 i tried installing some screen cover but i failed when it was new Oct 18 14:54:01 didnt bother buying another one Oct 18 14:54:16 couldnt get bubbles out Oct 18 14:54:31 jaska: well, I recommend you to put one, even with the bubbles Oct 18 14:54:50 ive had the device for a few years so.. dont think ill need it Oct 18 14:55:14 well, ok Oct 18 14:56:49 akls: also, press -> Oct 18 14:57:25 StyXman, wtf is -> Oct 18 14:57:34 right arroe Oct 18 14:57:37 akls: 'right' Oct 18 14:57:37 *arrow Oct 18 14:57:51 right arrow? How can I press it if I have virtual keyboard enabled? Oct 18 14:57:51 StyXman: but we're talking about VKB Oct 18 14:57:59 ah, heeh Oct 18 14:58:06 who uses it anyways Oct 18 14:58:20 anyway, is there any way to use two hardware keyboard layouts? Oct 18 14:58:35 sure Oct 18 14:58:47 any "easy" way? Oct 18 14:58:51 it is supported OOB Oct 18 14:58:56 enable it Oct 18 14:59:01 OOB? Oct 18 14:59:06 ~oob Oct 18 14:59:07 oob is probably DTMF Out Of Band Oct 18 14:59:14 out of the box Oct 18 14:59:22 freemangordon, it's not :( Oct 18 14:59:41 freemangordon, well, I have enabled it. and now I have two virtual keyboard layouts Oct 18 14:59:54 now what about hardware layout? Oct 18 15:00:00 hmm, define " two hardware keyboard layouts" Oct 18 15:00:22 use ctrl-space toswitch Oct 18 15:00:35 I press "a" key on the keyboard, english "a" is typed. I press "a" key on the keyboard, russian Ñ„ is typed Oct 18 15:00:50 use ctrl+space Oct 18 15:01:21 freemangordon, it said that layout was changed, but really nothing happened Oct 18 15:01:54 akls: have you defined the second one? Oct 18 15:01:57 hmm, did you setup it correctly? Oct 18 15:02:19 settings->text input Oct 18 15:02:38 yes Oct 18 15:02:40 at the bottom you should define first and second languages Oct 18 15:02:44 freemangordon: yo Oct 18 15:02:44 yes Oct 18 15:02:54 vi_: yo Oct 18 15:02:58 freemangordon, but on the top I have "Hardware keyboard layout" Oct 18 15:03:08 freemangordon, and it's set to "English, Nederlands" Oct 18 15:03:18 no, change that to russian Oct 18 15:03:32 on the bottom I have 1st language: English, 2nd language: Russian Oct 18 15:03:40 I just read in the thread for the virtual keyboard that you now have 'the sources' for hildon input method? Where did that come from? Oct 18 15:04:17 freemangordon, alright! You're right Oct 18 15:04:18 vi_: man where you've been? :P Oct 18 15:04:19 https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/hildon-input-method-plugins Oct 18 15:04:23 freemangordon, now it works Oct 18 15:04:38 https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/hildon-im-vkbrenderer3 Oct 18 15:04:44 freemangordon, but it was something I wouldn't ever get by myself Oct 18 15:04:52 lol Oct 18 15:05:19 freemangordon: life is brutally busy. Oct 18 15:05:20 akls: call centre is here. As usual :D:D:D Oct 18 15:05:41 vi_: I REed those Oct 18 15:05:41 I do not even have time to get to grips with my shiny n950. Oct 18 15:06:05 freemangordon: So the official source was not provided, you just REed it? Oct 18 15:06:18 vi_: It is better that way, you'll be disappointed Oct 18 15:06:22 yes Oct 18 15:06:34 freemangordon: You are really quite the talent! Oct 18 15:06:40 hehe Oct 18 15:06:45 I know :P Oct 18 15:07:13 I issed the work canteen cake give-away. Oct 18 15:07:14 vi_: though REing is way easier with hexrays Oct 18 15:07:24 freemangordon: I love hexrays. Oct 18 15:07:29 me too Oct 18 15:07:32 IDA pro rulez. Oct 18 15:07:40 as always Oct 18 15:08:15 vi_: the last victim was libcal :P Oct 18 15:09:00 vi_: https://gitorious.org/cal/cal Oct 18 15:11:07 * freemangordon thinks what javispedro has to say about if he can put LGPL on that Oct 18 15:16:14 am I the only person who likes the resistive touchscreen that much? Oct 18 15:19:26 is there any GOOD desktop widget to show memory, swap, cpu usage? Oct 18 15:19:50 akls: you're not Oct 18 15:20:15 akls: for that stuff you'd better use conky Oct 18 15:20:22 the one in extras-devel Oct 18 15:21:03 Pali: hi Oct 18 15:21:20 freemangordon, yep! but I'm asking for a desktop widget Oct 18 15:21:54 still no comment on my comment re u-boot, I wonder if that guy just ignores me or he has not received the mail Oct 18 15:22:15 akls: can;t help here Oct 18 15:22:22 ok Oct 18 15:38:54 why the fuck MyDocs partition is vfat and not ext3? Oct 18 15:40:33 "FAT is used as it can be accessed on most non-Linux computers and is thus useful for data exchange in USB mass storage mode " Oct 18 15:40:37 so for window users? -_- Oct 18 15:40:40 damn Oct 18 15:41:03 windows, linux, mac Oct 18 15:41:14 ext3 sucks Oct 18 15:41:55 other option would be MTP, and you don't want that Oct 18 15:45:45 sucks? much better than fat shit Oct 18 15:45:54 no Oct 18 15:45:59 no? Oct 18 15:46:07 fat is simpler and far more reliable when it comes to power cuts Oct 18 15:46:13 why? I can't even have my easy debian image bigger than 4 gb Oct 18 15:46:30 ideal fs for mobile devices Oct 18 15:48:00 jacekowski: was that you with dosbox? Oct 18 15:48:22 jacekowski, then why /home is ext3? Oct 18 15:49:57 alks FAT does not support permissions Oct 18 15:50:03 *akls Oct 18 15:54:21 ~ootb Oct 18 15:54:21 hmm... ootb is Out Of The Box Oct 18 15:56:03 * DocScrutinizer05 makes mental note to get some more spare keymats Oct 18 16:01:33 wtf Oct 18 16:02:02 n900 turns of after a while when booting BackupMenu Oct 18 16:02:47 ~rescue-os Oct 18 16:02:48 rescue-os is probably http://206.253.166.96/N900/rescueOS/ Oct 18 16:03:21 oh no Oct 18 16:03:23 now it works Oct 18 16:03:27 false alarm :D Oct 18 16:07:56 apt-get upgrade easydeb? bwahahaha Oct 18 16:22:52 akls: look into queen beecon widgets Oct 18 16:23:00 for cpu, memory etc Oct 18 16:23:35 although, what better way to waste your cpu, memory etc than with widgets telling you how much cpu/memory you have wasted with widgets. Oct 18 16:24:08 :D Oct 18 16:24:11 I am sure there is a 'yo dawg, I heard you like x and y, so we put and x in y so you can x while you y'. Oct 18 16:24:52 I took all of the memory allocations out of syspart.conf. Oct 18 16:25:07 speedpatch' Oct 18 16:25:10 :P Oct 18 16:25:11 Lets just see how this mutha roles. Oct 18 16:25:20 I INVENTED SPEEDPATCH. Oct 18 16:25:29 no Oct 18 16:25:33 it was battery patch. Oct 18 16:26:01 yeah, batterypatch. and we all hate you for this :D Oct 18 16:27:59 vi_: btw I reied swappiness of 0. don;t work goo, now laying with 10 Oct 18 16:27:59 ... Oct 18 16:28:03 so far so good Oct 18 16:28:12 *played with Oct 18 16:28:24 sorry Oct 18 16:28:25 Is that the only thing you changed? Oct 18 16:28:43 I should be more careful when typing Oct 18 16:28:50 I already hate myself for winning an n950. Oct 18 16:29:13 no, but compared with pre-thumb Oct 18 16:30:04 vi_: why is that? Oct 18 16:30:12 there are just so many parameters to fiddle with, I just do not know how to effectivly measure the result of changing any of them. Oct 18 16:30:21 Because now I have an n950. Oct 18 16:30:27 What do I do with it? Oct 18 16:30:38 btw i broke the screen, you can send it to me if you hate it too much :D Oct 18 16:30:46 I cannot use it because spare parts do not exist. Oct 18 16:31:08 If it breaks, that is it. Oct 18 16:31:19 I know that pretty well Oct 18 16:31:22 I cannot sell it because that would make me a total fuckwad. Oct 18 16:31:49 well, it is not broken, just those 2 black stripes Oct 18 16:32:06 I do not want to start 'getting into' it as that would rob me of another 2 years like the n900. Oct 18 16:32:25 vi_: hmm, I don;t think there is such risk Oct 18 16:32:29 I do not want to give it to some aspiring programer as that would divert his attention away from fremantle. Oct 18 16:32:51 n9/50 is waay too limited caompared to n900 Oct 18 16:32:57 bot HW and SW Oct 18 16:33:00 *both Oct 18 16:33:17 I feel I should give it away. Oct 18 16:33:33 But then I think, Easy debian! Oct 18 16:33:46 a pocket linux computer with fone!!! Oct 18 16:33:56 But I cannot use it incase I break it. Oct 18 16:34:01 Then I am back at the start. Oct 18 16:34:10 1st world problems. Oct 18 16:35:10 Do you think n950 parts would be available through nokia care points? Oct 18 16:37:03 I should call them some day Oct 18 16:37:08 these days though Oct 18 16:37:18 to try to find a replacement screen Oct 18 16:37:39 fix backing swap and give me thumb+neon comiled mplayer and you can have mine. Oct 18 16:37:52 mint condition. Oct 18 16:39:42 promise? Oct 18 16:39:53 yes Oct 18 16:40:09 mplayer? ffmpeg? Oct 18 16:40:23 mplayer Oct 18 16:40:34 it comes with its own codecs? Oct 18 16:40:50 libavcodec or something. Oct 18 16:40:50 well, gimme the sources Oct 18 16:40:59 it is already in the repos. Oct 18 16:41:02 aah, i,ve already did that Oct 18 16:41:10 lols Oct 18 16:41:13 for ogg/flac Oct 18 16:41:38 n950 - Achievement 50% unlocked Oct 18 16:41:48 but still not in -thumb, I want berkeley DB and PA first Oct 18 16:42:43 you are free to do as you wish, I expect nothing from you. You have already contributed so much to my favourite platform. Oct 18 16:42:46 vi_: though you'll receive newer one for libavcodec than the one in repos, as NEON badly supported in maemo version Oct 18 16:43:01 that is what I mean. Oct 18 16:43:02 *is badly Oct 18 16:43:17 yeah, I told you, I played a bit Oct 18 16:44:18 hmm, maybe I will issue a small update today, with berkeley DB only. Oct 18 16:44:31 lets see if I will ahev time Oct 18 16:44:35 *have Oct 18 16:44:53 to state terms: newer mplayer+ramzswap backingswap working properly==1 mint condition n950 for FMG. Oct 18 16:45:04 vi_: BTW libavcodec is derived from ffmpeg Oct 18 16:45:16 freemangordon: I suspected as such. Oct 18 16:45:31 vi_: any problems mplayer to be statically linked? Oct 18 16:45:54 if for some reason I am unable to backport libavcodec to maemo Oct 18 16:46:07 (upstream version) Oct 18 16:46:33 not for me. Oct 18 16:46:55 vi_: and don't expect it in -extras :P Oct 18 16:47:02 -thumb rulez Oct 18 16:47:10 thumb4life. Oct 18 16:47:30 I did not choose the thumb2 life, the thumb2 life chose me. Oct 18 16:47:42 ok, deal. going afk for a while Oct 18 16:50:28 vi_: but ramzswap sucks balls Oct 18 16:51:00 better than no ramzswap Oct 18 16:51:29 freemangordon: would you use ramzswap? Oct 18 16:51:33 DocScrutinizer05: ^ Oct 18 16:53:01 And now for the really mysterious facts of everyday life: an Android developer is apparently prohibited from buying his own app from Google Play Store Oct 18 16:53:19 Head, meet table. Oct 18 17:01:57 :D:D:D Oct 18 17:02:59 kerio: not in its current form Oct 18 17:03:30 but if I manage to make backing swap work as it should, I might reconsider Oct 18 17:03:44 ? Oct 18 17:03:46 what do you mean? Oct 18 17:04:04 rephrase you question please Oct 18 17:04:31 I was answering to freemangordon: would you use ramzswap? Oct 18 17:04:34 how is it supposed to work? Oct 18 17:04:42 fast Oct 18 17:05:02 the qurrent implementation does not deal with flash memory Oct 18 17:05:05 *current Oct 18 17:05:39 so it reads/writes 4k at once Oct 18 17:05:46 you can imagine Oct 18 17:05:53 ew Oct 18 17:27:23 hm Oct 18 17:27:54 symbian is the only 4G OS that doesnt attach you to some conglomeratr Oct 18 17:28:21 or meego Oct 18 17:28:56 im getting an e7 next week for sure Oct 18 17:43:17 4G OS? Oct 18 17:44:50 4G OS!!! Oct 18 17:45:33 4G OS!1!1!1!1 Oct 18 17:46:45 BIRDS WITH ARMS|!!!|! Oct 18 17:47:16 NO >:C Oct 18 18:22:52 Pali: yo pali Oct 18 18:22:53 sup Oct 18 18:23:07 what? Oct 18 18:23:16 'sup Oct 18 18:23:19 as in, wassup Oct 18 18:23:24 ie what's up Oct 18 18:23:50 colloquial for "what's going on in your life as of late" Oct 18 18:26:09 voronoi diagrams Oct 18 18:26:24 kerio, did you ever heard about it? :D Oct 18 18:27:11 Pali: cute Oct 18 18:31:33 fortune algorithm Oct 18 18:33:28 i never did any kind of programming related to geometry Oct 18 18:39:19 fortune algorithm. now THAT sounds cool Oct 18 18:39:35 DocScrutinizer05: sadly, it's not an algorithm to be more lucky Oct 18 18:41:02 Pali: btw, how do i boot rescue-os from uboot? Oct 18 18:41:22 exactly like meego? Oct 18 18:41:33 i also have no idea how to boot meego Oct 18 18:41:34 so there's that Oct 18 18:41:51 ooh wait, r-os is not flashed, no? Oct 18 18:42:05 DocScrutinizer05: no, but of course uboot can do everything Oct 18 18:42:06 so you don't boot r-od from uBoot at all Oct 18 18:42:15 r-os Oct 18 18:42:30 kerio, for rescue os boot from u-boot look at u-boot tmo thread Oct 18 18:42:32 since NOLO loads r-os to RAM and starts it Oct 18 18:42:38