**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Oct 31 02:59:58 2012 Oct 31 06:46:39 "Pali and guys, a huge thank you goes out to you, awesome work! The driver looks great, just a few cosmetic issues." Oct 31 06:47:25 WTF, i would've not believe that :D Oct 31 06:47:35 DocScrutinizer05: ^^^ Oct 31 06:47:57 already seen it Oct 31 06:47:59 :-) Oct 31 06:48:26 Yeah, I know you are cc-ed, just in case you've missed it Oct 31 06:49:39 freemangordon: what's filesize limit (if any) in maemo kernel? Oct 31 06:50:03 it uses 64 bit AFAIK Oct 31 06:50:08 is our kernel still a 32bit kernel, or does it have 64bit file extensions? Oct 31 06:50:15 ^^^ Oct 31 06:50:20 :nod: Oct 31 06:50:47 freemangordon: so what's max filesize on VFAT, by design? Oct 31 06:51:11 4GB for fat32 iirc Oct 31 06:51:15 is it max(uint32) or max(int32)? Oct 31 06:51:35 max(uint32), iirc Oct 31 06:52:07 or better said 4095MB Oct 31 06:52:07 evidently on MyDocs stuff like recorder blows chunks on filesize >2GB Oct 31 06:52:43 as -1 is end of cluster chain marker Oct 31 06:53:33 ~2**31 Oct 31 06:53:33 2147483648 Oct 31 06:53:42 ~2**32 Oct 31 06:53:42 4294967296 Oct 31 06:54:19 DocScrutinizer05: ever heard of non-working fmtx? Oct 31 06:54:31 yeah Oct 31 06:54:36 often Oct 31 06:55:03 there is a guy on TMO who says SR does not work for him, but his fmtx does not work too. I wonder is it is something with i2c on his device Oct 31 06:55:23 SR? Oct 31 06:55:28 as SR sets values which are higher that what he use without SR Oct 31 06:55:32 SmartReflex Oct 31 06:55:34 aah, smartreflex Oct 31 06:56:05 hmmm Oct 31 06:56:16 so, what coud cause fmtx to not work? Oct 31 06:56:21 besides SW Oct 31 06:56:35 needs some pondering, for now I think it's not a general I2C issue Oct 31 06:57:55 I recommended a reflash, lets see how it will be after that Oct 31 06:58:05 btw SR is using a dedicated (i2c) link between CPU and twl4030 Oct 31 06:59:25 yeah, you are correct Oct 31 08:42:34 btw SR is using a dedicated (i2c) link between CPU Oct 31 08:42:43 and twl4030 Oct 31 08:43:52 ~57/0 Oct 31 08:44:15 ~2*2 Oct 31 08:44:16 4 Oct 31 08:44:29 ~57/57 Oct 31 08:44:29 1 Oct 31 08:44:37 ~57/-0 Oct 31 08:44:58 ~x=4 Oct 31 08:45:05 ~x+5 Oct 31 08:45:28 infobot: do you dream of electric shhep? Oct 31 08:45:28 yes, I dream of electric shhep. Oct 31 08:45:52 infobot: do you dream of david hasslehoff? Oct 31 08:45:52 yes, I dream of david hasslehoff. Oct 31 08:46:09 infobot: do you eat bacon? Oct 31 08:46:09 yes, I eat bacon. Oct 31 08:46:25 infobot: do you? Oct 31 08:46:26 * infobot does you. Oct 31 08:46:29 eww Oct 31 08:46:31 infobot: do you ? Oct 31 08:46:32 * infobot does you. Oct 31 08:46:41 infobot: do you 57/0? Oct 31 08:46:41 yes, I 57/0. Oct 31 08:47:02 infobot: have you? Oct 31 08:47:16 infobot: have you slept? Oct 31 08:47:32 infobot: will you eat a donut? Oct 31 08:47:32 ~cookie Oct 31 08:47:34 Hey mrpingu, kernel traffic is http://kt.zork.net/ Oct 31 08:48:07 ~botsnack Oct 31 08:48:07 infobot: could you squat a krankenwagen? Oct 31 08:48:07 thanks, MrPingu Oct 31 08:48:28 good morning senior pingu. Oct 31 08:49:10 ~22/7 Oct 31 08:49:11 3.142857142857 Oct 31 08:49:17 ~pi Oct 31 08:49:17 well, pi is 3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944592307816406286208998628034825342117067982148086513282306647093844609550582231725359408128481117450284102701938521105559644622948954930381964428810975665933446128475648233786783165271201909145648566923460348610454326648213393607260249141273724587006606315588174881520920962829254091 Oct 31 08:49:51 ~-1(22/7)+pi Oct 31 08:50:02 ~-1(22/7) Oct 31 08:50:08 good morning vi_ Oct 31 08:50:10 ~(-1(22/7)) Oct 31 08:50:20 probably you are more senior than me :P Oct 31 08:50:21 ~((22/7)*1) Oct 31 08:50:22 3.142857142857 Oct 31 08:50:31 ~((22/7)*-1) Oct 31 08:50:31 -3.142857142857 Oct 31 08:50:35 ~((22/7)*-1)*pi Oct 31 08:50:36 -9.8735769 Oct 31 08:50:40 ~((22/7)*-1)+pi Oct 31 08:50:40 -0.001264492857 Oct 31 08:50:43 whoa Oct 31 08:51:04 keanu_reeves.jpg Oct 31 08:52:28 ~tau Oct 31 08:52:29 tau is, like, the difference between a velocity and c or the freaks' name for phi or a Greek letter Oct 31 08:52:40 ~phi Oct 31 08:52:40 methinks phi is the golden number, (sqrt(5) + 1)/2, or approximately 1.618034. Only freaks call it tau Oct 31 08:53:25 ~disturb vi_ Oct 31 08:53:25 * infobot brings vi_ to harleypig's birthday suit party Oct 31 08:53:56 ~calc 1+2 Oct 31 08:54:54 ~whaleslap vi_ Oct 31 08:54:55 * infobot beats vi_ upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh Oct 31 08:55:40 vi_: sorry it has to be you :P Oct 31 08:55:48 :( Oct 31 08:55:54 calc 5*9 Oct 31 08:55:58 ~calc 5*9 Oct 31 08:56:12 ~5*9 Oct 31 08:56:13 45 Oct 31 08:56:21 ~!99999999999999 Oct 31 08:56:47 infobot: you are alive? Oct 31 08:56:48 vi_: what are you talking about? Oct 31 08:57:48 vi_: by chance using irssi on N900? Oct 31 08:59:29 ~HAKMEM Oct 31 08:59:34 MrPingu: nope Oct 31 09:00:03 Just trying to get this infobot noob to compute factorials. Oct 31 09:00:12 ~!(22) Oct 31 09:00:35 whats your damage infobot? Oct 31 09:00:45 1d6+1 Oct 31 09:01:13 jaska: bwahahaaa. Oct 31 09:01:20 please explain D&D syntax. Oct 31 09:01:26 no. Oct 31 09:01:33 that is a 1 roll of a six sided dice + 1? Oct 31 09:01:35 yes Oct 31 09:02:00 I wish I could play D&D. Oct 31 09:02:23 Drink ale, listen to folk metal and play some D&D. Oct 31 09:02:32 That'd be sweet. Oct 31 09:02:33 ale? Oct 31 09:02:38 Think mountain dew. Oct 31 09:02:55 id prefer beer over mtdew Oct 31 09:03:00 Is that what D&D'ers drink? Oct 31 09:03:08 too much and it ends up as carpe dm (seize the dm) Oct 31 09:03:13 That is totally lame and non metal. Oct 31 09:03:23 vi_: why would it be metal? Oct 31 09:03:38 D&D~=metal right? Oct 31 09:03:42 not at all. Oct 31 09:03:51 you're making wild assumptions. Oct 31 09:04:39 I'd say most D&D'ers don't listen to music, because they're not allowed to bring the stereo down to the basement. Oct 31 09:05:16 But that was in my day, these days, I guess you get music on their phones and shit Oct 31 09:07:29 If you a good GM, he'll have a number of playlists ready that suit the location of your characters (tavern, woods, etc) Oct 31 09:14:36 someone know how to fix a failed enhanced busybox update ? I updated from the last CSSU testing to its thumb equivalent, and something went wrong, but the log do not show anything relevant. And now, no shell available ... Oct 31 09:15:07 so before re installing my latest backup, is there a way to fix this in a less radical way ? Oct 31 09:17:47 would mounting rootfs when in backupmenu and copying the relevant file from enhanced busybox package be a possible solution ? Oct 31 09:26:26 peetah: well...you are pretty much fucked. Oct 31 09:26:29 peetah: what " failed enhanced busybox update" means Oct 31 09:26:36 ? Oct 31 09:27:10 FAP said: something went wrong look at the log, but the log do not report any issues Oct 31 09:27:25 aah, FAM, I see Oct 31 09:28:16 so that was one of the cas where HAM was required uh ? Oct 31 09:28:20 *case Oct 31 09:29:12 I though HAM was required only for mp* updates Oct 31 09:30:04 anyway, would the root mounting solution be possible to solve this ? Oct 31 09:32:39 vi_: not fucked: that would only require to reinstall a backup, no big deal, but I would rather like to find something less destructive Oct 31 09:33:46 hmm, so you installed bb-power from -thumb and it failed? Oct 31 09:33:55 weird Oct 31 09:34:38 peetah: I thought you installed CSSU-thumb by using FAM, obviously that's not the case Oct 31 09:34:52 freemangordon: yep: the cssu-testing version update fine one or two days ago Oct 31 09:35:11 freemangordon: no, every thumb update or installation are made with HAM Oct 31 09:35:13 peetah: you can try to chroot and install by using dpkg Oct 31 09:35:44 at least you'll have an idea what's wrong Oct 31 09:35:59 BTW can you boot to maemo? Oct 31 09:36:18 hehe chroot from where ? I'm not sure my x86 desktop will like to execute chrooted arm binaries :) Oct 31 09:36:32 I did not dare to reboot for now :) Oct 31 09:36:49 can't you just reinstall the stuff? Oct 31 09:37:15 no: no shell = no FAM ... ha but maybe HAM works, let me check Oct 31 09:37:16 I don;t know if bb-power appears in HAM, but you can try to uninstall/install Oct 31 09:37:45 but you should have the red pill mode, not that I know how to enable it :D Oct 31 09:37:47 nope Oct 31 09:38:18 nope? Oct 31 09:38:23 I guess the only solution is to mount the rootfs somewhere and extract bb-power files from the .deb there Oct 31 09:38:33 HAM do not work without a shell Oct 31 09:38:41 aah Oct 31 09:40:38 peetah: not sure you can mount rootfs outside of the device Oct 31 09:40:40 freemangordon: but is backup menu using busybox to do its stuff ? Oct 31 09:40:50 NFC Oct 31 09:40:56 do you have u-boot? Oct 31 09:41:04 yep Oct 31 09:41:35 boot then from uSD, chroot to maemo rootfs and do dpkg -i Oct 31 09:41:55 hmm Oct 31 09:41:58 yes ! I have nemo installed there so I can chroot Oct 31 09:42:01 thanks Oct 31 09:42:01 won't work Oct 31 09:42:05 why ? Oct 31 09:42:11 you won't be able to chroot Oct 31 09:42:19 if there is no shell :D Oct 31 09:42:26 sure :) Oct 31 09:43:00 though you may try to copy/link only sh Oct 31 09:43:02 and how booting from uSD with u-boot would do the trick then Oct 31 09:43:05 ? Oct 31 09:43:16 it won;t , that is what I am saying Oct 31 09:43:19 ok Oct 31 09:43:51 but you may try to chroot with sh copied first Oct 31 09:44:03 btw do you have bash? Oct 31 09:44:12 I will try that thanks Oct 31 09:44:16 ok Oct 31 09:44:20 no, no bash, not that I remember of Oct 31 09:44:35 still interested to know if maemo boot without a shell ? Oct 31 09:46:35 well it seems it does not ... Oct 31 09:47:34 It is totally blown. Oct 31 09:47:34 no way, as preinit starts with #! /bin/sh :D:D Oct 31 09:47:39 If you smoke BB. Oct 31 09:47:44 BM will not work. Oct 31 09:56:39 what is the device to mount in order to access maemo rootfs from a nemo install ? Oct 31 10:07:30 peetah: do you have ubifs? Oct 31 10:08:40 dont't think so... how can I check ? Oct 31 10:09:25 well I guess if I don't know then I don't have it ? Oct 31 10:10:39 ah i got a /dev/ubi_ctrl Oct 31 10:10:54 freemangordon: ^^ Oct 31 10:30:51 peetah: afaik you need ubifs support to be able to mount rootfs Oct 31 10:32:28 yes I found that post explaining everything: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=73751 Oct 31 10:32:36 will try later thanks Oct 31 10:47:05 screen protectors, you get what you pay for. Oct 31 10:47:18 I bought 6 for 2euro. Oct 31 10:47:33 I just used all 6 trying to get one to go down without bubbling like shit. Oct 31 10:47:48 my wife is probably the only person who has a screen protector *only* on the back of her iphone4 Oct 31 10:47:53 I even tried 'floating' one on with isopropyl alchohol. Oct 31 10:48:06 Lava_Croft: lol, wut. Oct 31 10:48:18 She knows the screen is on the front, right? Oct 31 10:48:21 yes Oct 31 10:48:25 ... Oct 31 10:48:26 but she dont like the feel Oct 31 10:48:32 and the back of the iphone4 is lolglass too Oct 31 10:48:44 on the N9, screen protectors are even worse Oct 31 10:48:51 due to the swiping Oct 31 11:02:03 kerio: ping Oct 31 11:02:14 kerio: where did you purchase your n900 otterbox? Oct 31 11:04:40 o.O Oct 31 11:07:10 I cannot find anywhere that sells it anymore. Oct 31 11:07:18 It is not even listed on the otterbox site! Oct 31 11:08:43 Pali: ping Oct 31 11:08:51 freemangordon, pong Oct 31 11:09:42 Pali: seeing how easy your battery driver upstreaming goes, do you mind to upstream the security framework drivers too? :P Oct 31 11:10:11 which security framework? Oct 31 11:10:25 the one that sets IBE bit in ACR, thumb2 stuff Oct 31 11:10:48 freemangordon, you can try it too :-) Oct 31 11:11:10 Pali: Can I? :D Oct 31 11:11:21 but I think that it will not be possible to upstream it in battery section :-) Oct 31 11:11:29 of course Oct 31 11:11:35 aah, that's for sure Oct 31 11:14:03 freemangordon, I think you could try to upstream it Oct 31 11:14:22 you have also working upstream kernel on maemo, so you can test it Oct 31 11:29:19 hi, I like to use my N900 as a transmitter and to distribute the music of old vinyl-lP's. I'm wondering wheather it's possible, resp. how is the best way, to get the music to the n900 as input fuer the FM-TRansit or dnla-Server. Oct 31 11:32:23 there also seem's usb-adapters arround, but I'm not shure, wether it's usable via N900 (with active usb). Oct 31 11:35:20 pogay: USB audio adapter (with h-e-n, given that driver source exists) is your only way to get proper stere recording on N900. FMTX however is crap and prolly not suited for whatever you plan Oct 31 11:36:41 thanks, I will make a bit research abut the driver, and how to get runnung that. Oct 31 11:37:00 DocScrutinizer51, why is fmtxd daemon needed for FM TX chip? Oct 31 11:37:28 why we cannot use alsa (or pulseaudio)? Oct 31 11:40:16 Pali: good qustion Oct 31 11:40:53 for changing frequency, etc, ... there is /dev/radio interface (it is v4l2?) Oct 31 11:41:07 so sound should go via alsa/pulseaudio driver Oct 31 11:41:21 Pali: javispedro claimed it should be possible to use FMTX without any CPU support Oct 31 11:41:41 and I think alsa has some driver for v4l2 (how sound from tv works?) Oct 31 11:42:09 vi_: wtf? !(22) ?? Oct 31 11:42:17 doesn't compute Oct 31 11:42:35 ~22! Oct 31 11:42:36 rumour has it, 22! is 1,124,000,727,777,607,680,000 Oct 31 11:43:16 I really want to remove fmtxd nokia blob :-) Oct 31 11:47:29 ~3! Oct 31 11:47:29 somebody said 3! was 6 Oct 31 11:47:34 ~9 Oct 31 11:47:35 i guess 9 is less than 10. the standard port for DISCARD Oct 31 11:47:38 ~9! Oct 31 11:47:39 9! is, like, 362,880 Oct 31 11:47:44 ~9999999999999999! Oct 31 11:47:53 ? Oct 31 11:48:00 haxor Oct 31 11:48:45 vi_: I can ask Tim to change te answer from NULL to FU! Oct 31 11:48:57 DocScrutinizer51: That would be good. Oct 31 11:49:29 ~(22/7)! Oct 31 11:49:30 ~6/0 Oct 31 11:49:44 DocScrutinizer51: already tries that one :p Oct 31 11:50:00 ~pi! Oct 31 11:50:00 i heard pi is 3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944592307816406286208998628034825342117067982148086513282306647093844609550582231725359408128481117450284102701938521105559644622948954930381964428810975665933446128475648233786783165271201909145648566923460348610454326648213393607260249141273724587006606315588174881520920962829254091 Oct 31 11:50:13 ~22/7! Oct 31 11:50:48 ~(21/7)! Oct 31 11:51:07 :shrug: Oct 31 11:51:15 ~(21/7) Oct 31 11:51:16 3 Oct 31 11:51:24 ~(21/7) ! Oct 31 11:51:41 ~(21/7) **2 Oct 31 11:51:41 9 Oct 31 11:52:19 who has an otterbox for sale? Oct 31 11:52:37 I guess 1! .. 50! are plain factoids Oct 31 11:53:20 orly? Oct 31 11:53:24 ~51! Oct 31 11:53:24 51! is, like, 1,551,118,753,287,382,280,224,243,016,469,303,211,063,259,720,016,986,112,000,000,000,000 Oct 31 11:53:31 ~9999! Oct 31 11:53:34 ~999! Oct 31 11:53:35 ~999 Oct 31 11:53:45 ~100! Oct 31 11:53:46 it has been said that 100! is 93,326,215,443,944,152,681,699,238,856,266,700,490,715,968,264,381,621,468,592,963,895,217,599,993,229,915,608,941,463,976,156,518,286,253,697,920,827,223,758,251,185,210,916,864,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 Oct 31 11:53:51 impressive Oct 31 11:54:01 ~900! Oct 31 11:54:01 900 is, like, for all intents and purpose line rate Oct 31 11:54:14 ~factinfo 100! Oct 31 11:54:14 100! -- created by localhost at Tue Oct 30 14:38:54 2001 (4018 days); it has been requested 4 times, last by vi_, 29s ago. Oct 31 11:54:48 I wonder what other great secrets infobot knows? Oct 31 11:55:23 ~factinfo 51! Oct 31 11:55:24 51! -- created by localhost at Tue Oct 30 14:30:01 2001 (4018 days); it has been requested 3 times, last by vi_, 1m 59s ago. Oct 31 11:55:30 infobot: if a woodchuck could chuck wood, how much wood would a would chuck chuck if a wood chuck could chuck wood? Oct 31 11:55:32 ~factinfo 5! Oct 31 11:55:33 5! -- created by NovaScorpio at Mon Mar 6 02:35:17 2000 (4622 days); it has been requested 5 times, last by DocScrutinizer at Fri Mar 23 16:13:48 2012. Oct 31 11:56:02 yipes, 12 years ago! Oct 31 11:56:09 maybe infobot... Oct 31 11:56:12 ~CRT Oct 31 11:56:12 rumour has it, crt is (Cathode Ray Tube) This is one of the main components of monitors and TVs. A beam of electrons is shot towards the CRT and as they collide with phosphors on the inside surface, they produce light. Today, other technologies are performing better than the heavy and bulky tube monitors. LCD panels and projection units are both in contention, but they still can't come close to the low cost of a CRT monitor or TV. Oct 31 11:56:16 ...is becoming self aware? Oct 31 11:56:20 ~literal 5! Oct 31 11:56:20 "5!" is "120" Oct 31 11:56:20 ~skynet Oct 31 11:56:21 * infobot kicks skynets ass! Oct 31 11:56:53 ~wiki CRT Oct 31 11:56:57 At http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CRT (URL), Wikipedia explains: "'CRT' may refer to: * Capillary refill time, the rate at with blood refills empty capillaries * Cognitive Retention Therapy, a dementia treatment * Cardiac resynchronization therapy, a treatment for heart failure ** CRT-D, an implanted cardiac resynchronization device * Corneal Refractive Therapy * Certified Respiratory Therapist, a respiratory therapist who works under the direction of ... Oct 31 11:57:31 n900 otterbox, I have never seen something dissappear from the net so hard. Oct 31 11:57:54 hm CRT is also Chinese Remainder Theorem :-) Oct 31 11:58:12 the otterbox was retconned Oct 31 11:59:49 ~retconned? Oct 31 11:59:52 ~retconned Oct 31 12:00:29 try dict Oct 31 12:01:05 ~dict retconned Oct 31 12:01:07 could not find definition for retconned Oct 31 12:01:09 though I doubt miriam webster knows Oct 31 12:01:20 or maybe someone could just say? Oct 31 12:01:34 nfc Oct 31 12:01:56 ~spell retconned Oct 31 12:01:58 possible spellings for retconned: rescanned reckoned retained rejoined returned retrained regained betokened recount redound Redmond reattained reddened Oct 31 12:02:06 vi_: retconned means retroactively deleted Oct 31 12:02:16 retroactive continuity Oct 31 12:02:23 eg as if never existed Oct 31 12:02:36 a glitch in the matrix! Oct 31 12:02:37 think comic book or movie "reboots" with characters removed Oct 31 12:02:39 1984! Oct 31 12:02:44 or scenes changed Oct 31 12:02:59 n900 OB was sent to the memory hole! Oct 31 12:04:55 vi_: actually, in 1984, it would be called an unperson Oct 31 12:05:59 infobot: retconned is vi_: retconned means retroactively deleted. retroactive continuity. eg as if never existed. think comic book or movie "reboots" with characters removed Oct 31 12:06:00 DocScrutinizer51: okay Oct 31 12:06:57 hmm Oct 31 12:07:02 ~retconned Oct 31 12:07:03 vi_: retconned means retroactively deleted. retroactive continuity. eg as if never existed. think comic book or movie "reboots" with characters removed Oct 31 12:07:07 DocScrutinizer51: actually, that is retgonned Oct 31 12:07:21 retconned means history has changed Oct 31 12:07:43 does not imply disappearance or appearance Oct 31 12:07:52 retgone is more specific Oct 31 12:08:05 *more specific case Oct 31 12:08:57 retroactively changed the continuity or something like that Oct 31 12:09:11 DocScrutinizer51: gonna fix infobot? Oct 31 12:09:28 why don't you do? Oct 31 12:09:32 ok Oct 31 12:10:08 ~+help forget Oct 31 12:10:10 If I have an old/redundant factoid x, "forget x" will cause me to erase it. Oct 31 12:10:25 infobot: forget vi_ Oct 31 12:10:25 i didn't have anything called 'vi_' to forget, vi_ Oct 31 12:11:13 if retconned is retroactive continuity. Continuity/history has changed to suit the present situation, as in changes in comic book and movie scene "reboots" Oct 31 12:11:20 infobot: retconned is retroactive continuity. Continuity/history has changed to suit the present situation, as in changes in comic book and movie scene "reboots" Oct 31 12:11:20 ...but retconned is already something else... Oct 31 12:11:29 infobot: forget retconned Oct 31 12:11:29 jon_y: i forgot retconned Oct 31 12:11:32 infobot: retconned is retroactive continuity. Continuity/history has changed to suit the present situation, as in changes in comic book and movie scene "reboots" Oct 31 12:11:32 okay, jon_y Oct 31 12:11:41 ~retconned Oct 31 12:11:41 retroactive continuity. Continuity/history has changed to suit the present situation, as in changes in comic book and movie scene "reboots" Oct 31 12:11:50 nice Oct 31 12:13:20 infobot: retgone is A more specific retconned, something went missing retroactively, such as with an unperson Oct 31 12:13:20 jon_y: okay Oct 31 12:15:01 roll a 1d20 to determine pop culture knowledge :) Oct 31 12:15:40 ~1d20 Oct 31 12:15:41 You roll a 4 Oct 31 12:15:44 SWEET Oct 31 12:15:54 ~6d6+4 Oct 31 12:16:01 ~6d6 +4 Oct 31 12:16:07 ~(6d6)+4 Oct 31 12:16:17 3d20 Oct 31 12:16:21 ~3d20 Oct 31 12:16:23 ~6d6 Oct 31 12:16:35 ~1d6 Oct 31 12:16:35 You roll a 1 Oct 31 12:16:41 only 1 die Oct 31 12:16:49 ~1d9999999 Oct 31 12:16:57 ~1d99 Oct 31 12:17:01 ~1d30 Oct 31 12:17:07 ~1d20 Oct 31 12:17:08 You roll a 18 Oct 31 12:17:14 ~d20 Oct 31 12:17:15 4 Oct 31 12:17:18 ~d20 Oct 31 12:17:31 ~literal d20 Oct 31 12:17:31 "d20" is "( 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20)" Oct 31 12:17:52 ~literal d21 Oct 31 12:18:57 infobot: d21 d21 is ( 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21) Oct 31 12:18:58 vi_: okay Oct 31 12:19:05 ~d21 Oct 31 12:19:20 ~d21 Oct 31 12:19:22 bah Oct 31 12:20:39 ~forget retgone Oct 31 12:20:39 jon_y: i forgot retgone Oct 31 12:20:52 infobot: retgone is A more specific retconned, something went missing retroactively, such as with an unperson or Trotsky Oct 31 12:20:52 okay, jon_y Oct 31 13:24:45 ~21! Oct 31 13:24:45 21! is, like, 51,090,942,171,709,440,000 Oct 31 13:25:03 ~1d21 Oct 31 13:26:30 tried all irc clients of maemo today :o Oct 31 13:27:03 xchat is the only good, don't know why I didn't like it before Oct 31 13:27:47 MrPingu: is it GUI? Oct 31 13:28:05 jon_y: xchat is gui indeed Oct 31 13:28:32 I normally use irssi on my main machine, but n900 lacking a proper keyboard makes things hard Oct 31 13:28:43 also, irssi dau.pl :) Oct 31 13:29:07 I tried irssi, it's nice but no perl script in the maemo version was going back to xchat Oct 31 13:29:25 put your own script Oct 31 13:29:50 just dump them in the script dir and load it Oct 31 13:30:03 jon_y: perl module is not compiled for the maemo version, not much scripting left then... Oct 31 13:30:50 aww Oct 31 13:31:23 I guess xchat is OK Oct 31 13:31:52 Luckily Docscrutinizer05 made it easy for configuring Oct 31 13:32:27 DocScrutinizer05: what's that notify script on your userwiki? Oct 31 13:38:03 MrPingu: maybe before you hadn't my awesome settings for xchat? Oct 31 13:38:44 Docscrutinizer05: probably Oct 31 13:39:57 Still it needs some minor tweaking to my own taste, the color part only Oct 31 13:41:08 n900 needs to be at least 7 inches wide for irc :) Oct 31 13:41:48 that would be my killer app on tablets Oct 31 13:42:00 oh, also keyboard Oct 31 13:42:43 jon_y: 7" doesnt fit well in my pocket Oct 31 13:43:02 get a manbag :) Oct 31 13:43:12 yeah, me neither Oct 31 13:43:24 irssi for win. Oct 31 13:43:38 vi_: do you dau.pl? :) Oct 31 13:44:32 vi_: it's nice but not as readable as this xchat Oct 31 13:44:49 what more do you need for irc other than a tty and a keyboard :) Oct 31 13:45:07 heh, telnet would be too hardcore Oct 31 13:45:42 jon_y: trackbar.pl for example can't be used on maemo version Oct 31 13:45:48 :( Oct 31 13:46:13 I use trackbar a lot Oct 31 13:46:37 jon_y: on N900? Oct 31 13:46:38 well, never really used the maemo version irssi since I don't have 3G Oct 31 13:46:54 no, on Cygwin Oct 31 13:47:48 Cygwin is good for most part, but doesn't come close to a real linux machine Oct 31 14:17:43 Hello guys! Oct 31 14:18:01 I would to ask you about backupmenu for multiBOOT Oct 31 14:18:27 Is it possible to make it working with the latest multiBOOT? Oct 31 14:19:26 Because there is ITEM_NAME tag in multiBOOT Oct 31 14:19:43 so the backupmenu entry boots maemo Oct 31 14:20:12 [15:19] Because there is ITEM_NAME tag in multiBOOT *** there is no ITEM_NAME tag in multiBOOT Oct 31 14:21:10 I tried to use mido.fayad's one, but no success: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=67866 Oct 31 14:21:58 Erm again something went wrong. I mean there is no ITEM_SCRIPT Oct 31 14:22:06 and that's the correct one Oct 31 14:23:32 Because Backupmenu.item uses ITEM_SCRIPT to load BackupMenuLauncher.item, but this function was removed from multiBOOT Oct 31 14:24:14 ~multiboot Oct 31 14:24:15 i heard multiboot is http://maemo.org/packages/view/multiboot/ Oct 31 14:24:57 quailstorm: guess you will need u-boot Oct 31 14:25:12 and a microSD card Oct 31 14:25:24 also, u-boot doesn't try to trash your nolo every boot Oct 31 14:25:32 If I had a microSD, I wouldn't like to use multiBOOT Oct 31 14:25:37 it drains battery Oct 31 14:25:52 multiboot is an dirty hack Oct 31 14:26:14 does u-boot actually *need* sd? Oct 31 14:26:17 it drains? how? Oct 31 14:26:21 not really Oct 31 14:26:31 you can put your kernel in MyDocs Oct 31 14:26:36 I know the disadvantages of multiBOOT, but I want to manage dual booting maemo5, and NITdroid on the same partition plus I would like to have backupmenu Oct 31 14:26:54 multiBOOT drains battery Oct 31 14:27:00 how? Oct 31 14:27:01 I used u-boot Oct 31 14:27:08 until I repartitioned the nand Oct 31 14:27:28 Nand? Don't you mean eMMC? Oct 31 14:27:35 When multiBOOT reflashes the kernel on boot, it takes abou 20~30% Oct 31 14:27:48 yes I mean eMMC Oct 31 14:27:53 nand is ROOTFS? Oct 31 14:28:04 nand = rootfs indeed Oct 31 14:28:12 20~30%! Oct 31 14:28:19 that is a killer Oct 31 14:28:24 eMMC is home, opt and MyDocs Oct 31 14:28:47 you sure kernel flashing takes that much power? Oct 31 14:29:12 I gave /home /opt 9GB becuse of NITdroid and webOS games Oct 31 14:29:16 I used gparted Oct 31 14:29:20 and backupmenu Oct 31 14:29:30 Now u-boot doesn't work Oct 31 14:29:44 have you tried pali's latest? Oct 31 14:29:58 Yes I'm sure, u-boot loads the kernel, multiBOOT flashes it into the kernel area Oct 31 14:30:05 No I haven't Oct 31 14:30:15 but I don't want to brick again Oct 31 14:30:19 worked for my funny 2204 Oct 31 14:30:31 you can't brick an n900 with uboot Oct 31 14:30:31 also, I would like to use android autoinstaller Oct 31 14:30:53 but If I can't load an OS Oct 31 14:30:54 at most, you'd just reflash your previous kernel Oct 31 14:30:59 it's bad Oct 31 14:31:08 yes you're right Oct 31 14:31:31 But sometimes it wasn't enough... Oct 31 14:31:59 what do you mean it wasn't enough? Oct 31 14:32:43 So, is it possible to use this http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=67866 with the latest multiBOOT? Oct 31 14:32:59 I had to reflash the phone Oct 31 14:33:11 All partitions Oct 31 14:33:35 sorry, I use u-boot exclusively Oct 31 14:36:19 20-30% battery per flash AND killing your flash on each boot Oct 31 14:36:38 wow, not sure why multiboot is even considered to be safe for use Oct 31 14:36:58 jon_y: actually I have it installed Oct 31 14:37:09 * MrPingu is ashamed though Oct 31 14:37:25 how is it taking up to 20% for flashing the kernel? Oct 31 14:37:40 shouldn't it take only a few seconds? Oct 31 14:37:53 takes aprox 10 sec max Oct 31 14:38:03 though I never switch kernels Oct 31 14:38:16 It's just my device needs reflash Oct 31 14:39:05 but don't to do it yet :P Oct 31 14:40:53 DocScrutinizer51: how to use that notify schript for xchat? Oct 31 14:41:57 can't seem to figure out how to get notifications for highlighted messages like normal IM-notification Oct 31 14:43:57 MrPingu: place it into same .xchat2 dir, one of the other config files will refer to it Oct 31 14:44:03 MrPingu: doesn't xchat even have a module that does that stuff? Oct 31 14:44:26 (actually it's called as audio player in notifications) Oct 31 14:44:41 merlin1991: that module sucks Oct 31 14:44:49 Merlin1991: yes but doesnt vibrate, no led Oct 31 14:46:18 DocScrutinizer51: any idea what ITEM_MODULES does in uboot? Oct 31 14:48:30 is there a way to properly halt the n900 from u-boot ? Oct 31 14:48:48 nevermind my questions Oct 31 14:49:09 I forgot to use mido.fayad's modified multiBOOT Oct 31 14:49:13 it works! Oct 31 14:49:52 Can someone mention me? :P hope notification works Oct 31 14:49:59 jon_y: sorry, nope Oct 31 14:50:33 MrPingu: test Oct 31 14:51:04 ehm no vibrate Oct 31 14:52:27 again? Oct 31 14:53:57 MrPingu: in xchat setting under highlights you set the saound to play and you also set the player. The player is the notifier script Oct 31 14:54:27 it in turn sends a dbus msg to MCE to kick the vibrator Oct 31 14:54:28 Yes i did Oct 31 14:54:47 but somehow it fails to vibrate and make sound Oct 31 14:55:05 DocScrutinizer51: ok Oct 31 14:55:15 you're running xchat as root maybe? Oct 31 14:55:21 no Oct 31 14:55:27 from the desktop icon Oct 31 14:55:34 you have set profile silent? Oct 31 14:55:42 no Oct 31 14:55:52 strange then Oct 31 14:56:04 led worked Oct 31 14:56:34 I'll check the scripts when back home (now + 1.5h) Oct 31 14:56:49 I believe the script is fine Oct 31 14:57:10 well, LED is not even used by my script Oct 31 14:57:43 see Oct 31 14:57:52 ~jrtools Oct 31 14:57:52 hmm... jrtools is http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools Oct 31 14:59:19 waat, maybe the original xchat plug-in is action up? Oct 31 15:00:30 brb Oct 31 15:05:43 ok so here is my situation: reboot loop, flash mode inaccessible (whether u is pressed or not, it goes right to the u-boot menu), and I guess my battery is quiet discharged now... what can I do ? Oct 31 15:06:43 s/quiet/quite/ Oct 31 15:06:44 peetah meant: ok so here is my situation: reboot loop, flash mode inaccessible (whether u is pressed or not, it goes right to the u-boot menu), and I guess my battery is quite discharged now... what can I do ? Oct 31 15:16:07 charge battery externally Oct 31 15:16:17 back Oct 31 15:17:40 MrPingu: yep, sounds like original plugin. check jrtools, also comment there Oct 31 15:20:02 Indeed, I did. Mind saying my name again? :P Oct 31 15:20:19 MrPingu: Oct 31 15:20:35 MrPingu: Oct 31 15:20:37 MrPingu: Oct 31 15:20:38 MrPingu: Oct 31 15:20:48 MrPingu: :-D Oct 31 15:21:16 dang, nothing Oct 31 15:22:06 the highlight options in xchat are rather finegrained and cryptic Oct 31 15:23:32 MrPingu: does it highlight lines like this one at least? Oct 31 15:24:37 guess: you haven't set 'chmod +x .xchatw/notifier.sh' Oct 31 15:24:58 DocScrutinizer51: thanks :( don't have any charger or anyone with a compliant phone around me Oct 31 15:25:00 xchat tries to execute that Oct 31 15:25:14 peetah: bad luck Oct 31 15:25:26 woah, of course Oct 31 15:27:49 Do I need to define the sounds? Oct 31 15:28:23 well, my files already use a click Oct 31 15:28:42 otherwise - yes. Oct 31 15:29:02 you need to pass existing .wav to the notifier.sh Oct 31 15:30:17 guess that's in sounds.conf? Oct 31 15:31:31 /usr/share/sounds/chat-msg_in_bg_2.wav Oct 31 15:33:05 script does play-sound /usr/share/sounds/chat-msg_in_bg_2.wav then Oct 31 15:33:51 should be pre-configured in one of my xchat config files Oct 31 15:35:10 I have to admit, I kinda mix my own config with yours ;) Oct 31 15:36:56 np with that. just make sure you don't miss relevant bits Oct 31 15:37:29 diff might help Oct 31 15:37:50 No but where does xchat save it's config of those sounds? Oct 31 15:38:15 in notifications.cfg or sth like that Oct 31 15:38:15 I can't find it back in xchat.conf Oct 31 15:38:50 notify.conf empty Oct 31 15:39:17 sound.conf Oct 31 15:39:23 empty too Oct 31 15:39:42 not mine Oct 31 15:39:47 dafuq Oct 31 15:40:05 check the files in jrtools/../xchat Oct 31 15:40:24 they're all for .xchat2/ Oct 31 15:40:59 Well you know what, just screw my own config Oct 31 15:41:30 actually my sound.conf is 0 too Oct 31 15:41:34 I will go with yours and finetune them Oct 31 15:41:43 good idea Oct 31 15:41:54 just cope them away Oct 31 15:41:58 copy Oct 31 15:42:27 then you can do a diff Oct 31 15:42:42 and edit what you think needs edit Oct 31 15:48:51 Username ^^ Oct 31 15:55:46 MEANWHILE: Spider experts working in Brazil have discovered nine new species of pink, purple and orange mini tarantulas Oct 31 16:05:11 WTF Oct 31 16:05:31 Now after I mv'ed it away, Oct 31 16:05:36 closed xchat Oct 31 16:06:29 reopen with your config, now sound.conf is full with settings of previous sxchat session Oct 31 16:15:35 vi_: i bought it on amazon Oct 31 17:32:26 hey all Oct 31 17:33:01 is there a way to clone the maemo repo and create a local repo in house? Oct 31 17:34:23 I remember there was a page where one could see the number of downloads of a package in extra/testing/devel etc. I can't seem to find it. Oct 31 17:36:21 And I remember them to be more detailed than what maemo.org/download-stats2/ produces Oct 31 17:37:20 nevermind, I got it. http://maemo.dadablog.net/AppStats.php Oct 31 17:46:54 slops17: yes it is Oct 31 17:47:06 Pali where was the wiki page again with all the details? Oct 31 17:47:25 what wiki page? Oct 31 17:48:18 merlin1991: how can i do it? Oct 31 17:50:11 Pali: the one with all the repo urls Oct 31 17:50:35 https://wiki.maemo.org/Apt-mirror Oct 31 17:50:42 hm, this fake sandisk class 2 is happily writing zeroes sequentially at 7MB/s Oct 31 17:50:57 slops17: see https://wiki.maemo.org/Apt-mirror Oct 31 17:51:29 kerio; fake? Oct 31 17:51:37 merlin1991: thanks Oct 31 17:51:41 ShadowJK: the sandisk logo is not like it should be Oct 31 17:52:03 oh Oct 31 17:52:24 7M/s write from sandisk class2 wouldn't surprise me though Oct 31 21:22:58 ok, this doesn't make any sense Oct 31 21:23:09 just tried to play around with backupmenu to see what I could do Oct 31 21:23:39 tried to erase the entire optFS (there wasn't anything important there anyway) just to see if it worked Oct 31 21:23:50 it did... for some reason Oct 31 22:06:19 omfg, mail from "Nokia Developer": >>the new windows phone 8 is here<< Oct 31 22:06:32 * DocScrutinizer05 thinks this kinda sounds like a SOS Oct 31 22:09:51 might be :) Oct 31 22:09:52 You aren't going to buy one? Oct 31 22:09:59 You should probably buy three, actually, to be sure. Oct 31 22:37:08 i heard ms are giving away tablets and lumias Oct 31 22:53:35 DocScrutinizer05: ping Oct 31 23:10:09 nvm, got it working :) Oct 31 23:11:54 I copy pasted the notify.sh, but the wiki splitted the dbus command in 2lines **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Nov 01 02:59:58 2012