**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Dec 05 02:59:59 2012 Dec 05 07:03:17 rooster_rus: individual packages **maybe** Dec 05 07:03:24 the repo... hell no Dec 05 09:45:50 * fastlane` pokes infobot Dec 05 11:52:26 bah Dec 05 11:52:30 corrupted git repo Dec 05 11:53:55 error: object file .git/objects/88/3bb9ba537dbc51be31865f23b6070d7b076a41 is empty Dec 05 11:53:55 fatal: loose object 883bb9ba537dbc51be31865f23b6070d7b076a41 (stored in .git/objects/88/3bb9ba537dbc51be31865f23b6070d7b076a41) is corrupt Dec 05 11:53:57 any tips? Dec 05 11:54:03 besides starting over Dec 05 11:54:22 git fsck? Dec 05 13:05:41 Jaffa, re-pong, by the way. Dec 05 15:10:26 I have android GB installed and KP 51 on my N900 phone. I want to remove Multiboot and replace it with U-Boot using pali's great work. Has anybody successfully attempted this? Dec 05 15:59:44 This place is too quiet. Dec 05 15:59:50 http://youtu.be/kJLDl2uDNaA Dec 05 16:11:48 http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/its-turkeygeddon-christmas-roast-uses-14-different-birds-8371332.html Dec 05 16:12:22 reminds me of the hackability of the N900! haha Dec 05 16:12:53 Eating peacock? D: Dec 05 16:28:48 stick it in an emu in an ostritch Dec 05 17:30:06 BioALIEN: android gb? Dec 05 17:30:21 also uninstall multiboot immediately, it's an absolute piece of crap Dec 05 17:45:04 applying for jobs is such bullshit. Dec 05 17:45:25 I have to write all this BS nonsense for HR. Dec 05 17:45:26 a bit Dec 05 17:46:45 'I am a dynamic engineer with a passion for renewable energies, being a multiskilled fucknut I have a passionate drive for teamwork on multidynamic international spheres of influence.' Dec 05 17:46:58 Do they want an engineer or a fucking poet? Dec 05 17:49:14 my guess is that they don't give a shit unless you clearly can't express yourself in english Dec 05 17:49:28 I may be wrong though, I only once applied for any job :) Dec 05 17:53:27 kerio, Playing nethack, projecting 80x24 on a 3 meter screen. #YOLO Dec 05 18:01:29 vi_: neat :D Dec 05 18:08:01 and now I died. Dec 05 18:08:13 #YOLT Dec 05 18:08:51 Killed by an invisible assailant after quaffing an unidentified potion of blindness. Dec 05 18:19:54 tadzik: that's only if you've got an amulet of lifesaving Dec 05 18:20:14 vi_: never ever ever ever wear, read, quaff, zap anything unidentified Dec 05 18:20:22 or wield Dec 05 18:20:24 or apply Dec 05 18:20:52 I never got around to learn to play nethack. It's worse than vim! :) Dec 05 18:21:19 tadzik: the movement keys are kinda the same though Dec 05 18:21:21 :D Dec 05 18:21:29 hehe, sort of :P Dec 05 18:21:36 except there are... 10 in nethack? Dec 05 18:21:42 8 sides + up/down Dec 05 18:21:52 s/sides/directions/ Dec 05 18:21:54 tadzik meant: 8 directions + up/down Dec 05 18:21:58 . is also sometimes a direction Dec 05 18:32:17 I never got around to learn to play nethack. It's worse than vim! :) Dec 05 18:32:26 You take that back! You monster! Dec 05 18:34:27 kerio, if you are backed into a corner and totally fucked, then there is nothing else to do but start quaffing and zapping unidentified stuff. Dec 05 18:40:27 vi_: I agree, vim is unrivaled master of evil, regarding obfuscated command key shortcuts Dec 05 18:40:49 tadzik: how can you deny that?? Dec 05 18:40:49 http://www.theonion.com/video/apple-promises-to-fix-glitches-in-map-software-by,30616/ Dec 05 18:42:52 vi_: huh... Elbereth Dec 05 18:45:11 Elbereth is a CHEAT! Dec 05 18:47:03 it's a conduct Dec 05 18:47:11 like not pudding farming. Dec 05 18:47:25 or shoplifting Dec 05 18:51:18 wait Dec 05 18:51:19 wut Dec 05 18:51:23 pudding farming? Dec 05 18:51:26 wtf is that? Dec 05 18:51:27 indeed Dec 05 18:51:45 you beat me to it Dec 05 18:53:02 though it seems I don't even get what's a conduct in this context Dec 05 18:53:40 so, wtf is Elbereth? Dec 05 18:53:47 SpeedEvil: it's not a conduct, it's not tracked by vanilla nethack Dec 05 18:54:01 pudding farming is also not tracked, except in... nethack4? Dec 05 18:54:06 no Dec 05 18:54:16 o.O Dec 05 18:54:21 shoplifting is tracked in the livelog, where supported, but it's still not quite accessible Dec 05 18:54:47 DocScrutinizer05: in nethack you can write stuff on the ground - writing Elbereth makes monsters that aren't represented by an "@" flee from you Dec 05 18:54:56 DocScrutinizer05: I demand a lawyer! Dec 05 18:55:05 surely there's a nethack keybinding which does that Dec 05 18:55:15 tadzik: just paste "E-y Elbereth" and a newline Dec 05 18:55:15 meh Dec 05 18:55:17 like in emacs Dec 05 18:55:33 tadzik: acehack has ".", unnethack and nethack4 have ^e Dec 05 18:55:51 like I said, a noob cheat. Dec 05 18:56:19 vi_: go ahead and keep playing the first five dungeon levels over and over again then Dec 05 18:56:49 DocScrutinizer05: pudding farming is the (ab)use of the property of black puddings and brown puddings (they're monsters in nethack) of splitting when hit by a metallic object Dec 05 18:57:05 get a metallic weapon that does very little damage, keep splitting them Dec 05 18:57:16 their hp is halved, but their maxhp stays the same, so eventually they heal Dec 05 18:57:25 and you can keep killing them for experience and drops Dec 05 18:57:59 thanks Dec 05 18:58:34 pretty clear that there's no storage reserved for stuff like that in my wetware Dec 05 18:58:50 Hi guys , can you advice me a bit ? http://hastebin.com/bonapukefa.avrasm Dec 05 18:58:58 nethack == game I'm not interested in Dec 05 18:59:04 DocScrutinizer05: and sadly, you'll probably remember this, because it's sufficiently strange Dec 05 18:59:21 kerio: remember what? Dec 05 18:59:24 XATRIX: it's a harmless warning message, you can ignore it Dec 05 18:59:33 DocScrutinizer05: pudding far-oh, i see what you did there Dec 05 18:59:44 kerio, maybe it's a good pactice to fix it up ? Dec 05 18:59:50 it's a nokia problem Dec 05 18:59:58 Hm Dec 05 18:59:59 you *must* ignore it Dec 05 19:00:12 it's just fair. Nokia ignores you, you ignore Nokia :) Dec 05 19:02:47 :) Dec 05 19:02:55 Why does it ? Dec 05 19:03:28 ignore maemo? It doesn't pay up, supposedly Dec 05 19:03:41 Also i did upgrada via apt-get and now i reissue the command Dec 05 19:03:47 The following packages have been kept back: Dec 05 19:03:47 libcurl3 libgcc1 libsdl-mixer1.2 libstdc++6 Dec 05 19:03:47 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 4 not upgraded. Dec 05 19:04:00 upgrading with apt-get is a bit discouraged, methinks Dec 05 19:04:08 Why ? Dec 05 19:04:27 because stuff breaks sometimes Dec 05 19:04:36 you'll have to ask someone more competent for the details Dec 05 19:05:15 So, what's the deal how to upgrade this sutff :) ? Dec 05 19:05:41 XATRIX: install those packages Dec 05 19:05:52 maybe Dec 05 19:05:52 kerio, ? Dec 05 19:06:00 or just ignore it Dec 05 19:08:32 maemo basically abuses apt, it's not set up to make use of things like apt-get upgrade Dec 05 19:09:11 So, it means it's not a good idea to upgrade things like apt-get up.. does ? Dec 05 19:09:14 XATRIX: can you post the output of apt-cache policy libgcc1 ? Dec 05 19:09:28 the root cause being Nokia's weird idea of packing literally everything into one metapackage Dec 05 19:09:46 DocScrutinizer05: upstream packages have the right dependencies, though Dec 05 19:10:04 kerio, http://hastebin.com/nevucafixo.avrasm Dec 05 19:10:08 upstream maybe has Dec 05 19:10:24 but maemo freemantle is not really upstream, right? Dec 05 19:10:30 fremantle, DUH Dec 05 19:10:47 I'm crazy.. I made a psad for maemo.. anyone want package? :) iptables required :P Dec 05 19:10:58 psad ? Dec 05 19:11:14 http://cipherdyne.org/ Dec 05 19:11:39 IRC is no bookmark service! Dec 05 19:12:22 kerio, any ideas on my thingy ? Dec 05 19:12:26 IOW, please at least give some explaining words when pasting URLs, otherwise you might get banned for URL spamming Dec 05 19:12:34 DocScrutinizer05:I agree! :D Dec 05 19:13:21 Anyone can advice me where to find a software that will automatically orient my screen depending of how it's held ? Dec 05 19:13:27 that was a psad author homepage Dec 05 19:13:31 this is particularly true for any URL that's not got 'maemo' in it Dec 05 19:13:50 DocScrutinizer05: google too? Dec 05 19:14:08 XATRIX: er, what is the problem you're trying to solve? Dec 05 19:14:17 in CSSU hildon rotates when you rotate your phone Dec 05 19:14:29 DocScrutinizer05: ugh.. U know that I'm not spamming ;) Dec 05 19:14:31 spoofy: as a general rule no user should need to visit the URL to decide if (s)he is interested in that stuff Dec 05 19:15:02 DocScrutinizer05: XATRIX just asked what is psad so I send him a url to author of psad.. Dec 05 19:15:13 that's all Dec 05 19:15:28 If I see 3 URLs in a row here where I think "WTF might this point to, and what's this all about?", I will grab the banhammer Dec 05 19:16:56 spoofy: exactly that left everybody with the alternative zo either not give a fsck what 'psad' is, or to feel urged to visit a URL webpage. Not a sane way to have a IRC convo Dec 05 19:18:26 if your URL pointed to some maemo infra, your reference to it by URL was ok. Not though when you mention a widely unknown name here and somebody asks wtf that is Dec 05 19:19:05 and, yes, this *is* spamming Dec 05 19:20:08 ~wiki psad Dec 05 19:20:18 At http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PSAD (URL), Wikipedia explains: "{{mergefrom|clitorism|date=July 2012}} 'Persistent Genital Arousal Disorder' ('PGAD'), originally called 'Persistent Sexual Arousal Syndrome' ('PSAS') and also known as 'Restless Genital Syndrome' ('ReGS or RGS'),[http://www.psas.nl/waldinger/default_en.htm Restless Genital Syndrome]{{Cite news ... Dec 05 19:20:31 * tadzik installs Dec 05 19:21:44 tadzik: oh you Dec 05 19:22:02 XATRIX: (screen orientation) see CSSU-T Dec 05 19:24:59 spoofy: we still have NFC what might be PSAD, except for wikipedia definition Dec 05 19:26:28 spoofy: spamming like this is a *bery* common pattern to generate site hits, and thus it's generally considered SPAM and deprecated on IRC Dec 05 19:26:36 *very* Dec 05 19:27:12 there are other IRC channels / networks where you get banned for posting *any* URL Dec 05 19:29:15 i wonder what's the legality of posting the url to silkroad Dec 05 19:29:35 nfc what's silkroad Dec 05 19:29:51 DocScrutinizer05: U know that I AM NOT SPAMMING. I send an url to homepage of author psad. Now sorry - but I don't have a time for such a talk. Dec 05 19:29:52 the TOR thing where you can buy drugs for bitcoins Dec 05 19:29:58 online black marketplace Dec 05 19:30:21 general rule: when posting a URL, you add enough 'tags' to let interested users know ehat the URL will give them Dec 05 19:30:28 "the site's operators prohibit goods or services intended to harm others, such as stolen credit card numbers, counterfeit currency, personal info, assassinations, weapons of mass destruction, and materials used to make such weapons.[10]" Dec 05 19:30:46 meh, wikipedia lists the url Dec 05 19:31:13 spoofy: and sorry, I have no time to visit that fsckng page to learn what's psad. So if you're not interested to tell us, I declare it a ban'able subject now Dec 05 19:33:45 Ah, Doc, just forget it Dec 05 19:34:03 DocScrutinizer05: Just.. get off me dude Dec 05 19:34:04 already did Dec 05 19:34:54 Just a few questions more, is it possible to install adobe-flash support for Opera Mobile ? Dec 05 19:35:02 XATRIX: nope Dec 05 19:35:08 Crap Dec 05 19:35:20 SpeedEvil: can i use N900 as a usb storage device for otg access on android? Dec 05 19:39:47 RST38h: isn't it funny how you can tell from behaviour of users what infra they use to access IRC? No N900-xchat user would spam a URL without further hints about what it is, so other N900-xchat users could decide if it's worth to switch to 3G, crank up opera, wait for that page to download and render Dec 05 19:43:35 trumee: a what for what? Dec 05 19:44:03 kerio: i want to use N900 as a usb storage device. Dec 05 19:44:15 so do that Dec 05 19:44:16 terribly complicated Dec 05 19:44:32 kerio: and use it along with android phone. Dec 05 19:44:41 * DocScrutinizer05 tries to find the stop-sarcasm button Dec 05 19:45:04 * trumee my android phone is poor on internal storage Dec 05 19:45:42 trumee: depending on android phone, no? as we all know, mass storage mode of fremantle works considerably nice with any standard PC Dec 05 19:46:52 DocScrutinizer05: using mass storage mode with airplane mode will make it run for a few hours? Dec 05 19:46:55 charging *might* be a problem Dec 05 19:47:04 yes, that is what i was coming to. Dec 05 19:47:23 will it try to charge from the android phone? Dec 05 19:47:28 yep Dec 05 19:47:34 the android phone will say no, though Dec 05 19:47:48 then, it's up to ... dunno Dec 05 19:47:49 so at best you get 200mA, if it's the standard usb otg Dec 05 19:47:57 i think, at least Dec 05 19:47:57 nope Dec 05 19:48:02 there's no standard? Dec 05 19:48:14 OTG is no way near 200mA Dec 05 19:48:30 it might be as low as 8mA, in certain situations Dec 05 19:48:35 omg Dec 05 19:48:46 oh, the n900 is just a subpar usb host, i see Dec 05 19:48:53 it's not otg Dec 05 19:49:57 kerio: cool, than the concept will work ok. Dec 05 19:50:14 nayway, once you got connected to your android phone, you probably can `stop bme` Dec 05 19:50:35 cheaper than buying a 64gb micro-sdcard Dec 05 19:50:41 DocScrutinizer05: ok Dec 05 19:50:44 or "echo none > /sys/class/power_supply/bq24150a-0/mode"! Dec 05 19:51:05 trumee: it's also a lot bulkier than a 64gb uSD Dec 05 19:51:14 only for KP with bme replacement Dec 05 19:52:00 kerio: true. one problem remains though, not sure if android can mount external ext3 media Dec 05 19:52:30 i don't see why it couldn't, but it probably can't Dec 05 19:52:52 i want to circumvent the 4gb limit of fat32. And so was planning to repartition N900, but android will not see it Dec 05 19:52:55 where would you have to deal with ext3? Dec 05 19:53:07 aah Dec 05 19:53:20 DocScrutinizer05: wont N900 offer ext3 for UMS? Dec 05 19:53:29 trumee: you can make it do so Dec 05 19:54:22 default is VFAT that's exported on mass storage Dec 05 19:54:31 and the whole uSD Dec 05 19:54:33 of course you can change that on N900 Dec 05 19:56:51 seems N900 can be all set. Will have to explore android if it can see ext3. Dec 05 19:56:57 Crap, cant find CSSU in applications manager on N900 Dec 05 19:57:04 trumee: see osso-usb-mass-storage-enable.sh Dec 05 19:57:05 What's the group of ? Dec 05 19:57:21 XATRIX: cssu is no app Dec 05 19:57:24 ~cssu Dec 05 19:57:25 i guess cssu is http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU Dec 05 19:57:53 Yea, sure, i can't import stable repository Dec 05 19:57:58 Only a testing one Dec 05 19:58:00 XATRIX: portrait mode is a per-app effort Dec 05 19:58:22 XATRIX: you can't WUT? Dec 05 19:58:40 you're not supposed to 'import repostitory' Dec 05 19:58:53 bwahahhaha android. Dec 05 19:58:56 what a joke. Dec 05 19:59:42 http://wiki.maemo.org/images/thumb/1/13/Cssu_stable_5.png/180px-Cssu_stable_5.png Dec 05 19:59:50 XATRIX: ??? Dec 05 19:59:53 This thing i was unable to import Dec 05 20:00:14 you are NOT SUPPOSED to import anything Dec 05 20:00:37 How i do it: I open Web, go to http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU , Then click on the icon Dec 05 20:00:48 pretty please read extremely fine and verbose instructions at http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU Dec 05 20:01:14 Ok Dec 05 20:01:45 follow those instructions verbatim Dec 05 20:05:20 the most important step is step 0 Dec 05 20:07:42 DocScrutinizer05, I mean Adding Catalog of CSSU Testing (by importing) Dec 05 20:10:12 XATRIX: a) I don't know what you mean by "importing", the instructions don't mention any such step. And b) you probably should ask in #maemo-ssu when you got problems from installation process. However note that we do NOT support any made up or modified installation procedure, only supported one is exactly as described on http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU Dec 05 20:12:39 XATRIX: to install CSSU you're supposed to have internet access from your N900. then you click on that button which will start the installation process Dec 05 20:13:21 Yes, this button adds catalog for CSSU testing to maemo app manager Dec 05 20:14:08 yes Dec 05 20:14:41 among others Dec 05 20:15:32 Yes Dec 05 20:15:41 That's what i mean :) Dec 05 20:16:05 By the way, let me show you the screenshot, maybe you can help me to find the software i was looking for Dec 05 20:16:15 well, a problem report like that one is extremely useless to help you out of any problems Dec 05 20:17:04 http://static.maemo.org/static/1/14c94ff2d8c011e08d27817556222a9c2a9c_attachment-lfgwwv.png Dec 05 20:17:21 Take a look please, see the Orientation lock down there ? Dec 05 20:17:27 I neither have any idea what sw you might be looking for, nor could I figure what's your actual problem with installing CSSU Dec 05 20:17:35 Maybe this software does what i want ... Dec 05 20:17:48 no! it doesn't Dec 05 20:17:57 it's CSSU that does what you want Dec 05 20:18:31 Wait a bit... CSSU is a catalog for apps , or i miss something ( Dec 05 20:18:35 CSSU is NOT AN APP Dec 05 20:18:44 O_O Dec 05 20:18:48 CSSU is a OS update Dec 05 20:18:54 Ahhh Dec 05 20:19:24 Copy Dec 05 20:19:38 Will try to find a way to install it Dec 05 20:19:54 instructions are on http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU Dec 05 20:20:37 Yea Dec 05 20:23:31 Ok...i did what the howto said, i opened the link i was given by you on my N900, then i click testing , it asked me a permission it wanted to add catalog Dec 05 20:23:41 And there was nothing in more Dec 05 20:24:50 Now i can confirm i have "Community SSU (testing)" record under my Application Manager menu->Application Catalogs Dec 05 20:25:26 But i have no Community SSU icons within my app menu Dec 05 20:27:35 hmm, strange Dec 05 20:28:28 Yes Dec 05 20:28:31 please double-check Dec 05 20:28:47 That's what i'm taking about, that's strange! Dec 05 20:34:15 XATRIX: you gave HAM enough time to install the 'package = community-ssu-enabler' ? Dec 05 20:34:40 I'm not sure it actually installed anything Dec 05 20:34:49 It just added a catalog Dec 05 20:34:58 Nothing more it did Dec 05 20:35:15 well, if you aborted it prematurely the sure it didn't install community-ssu-enabler Dec 05 20:35:27 then* Dec 05 20:35:28 I didn't abort anything Dec 05 20:35:51 Ok...i removed this catalog and now i'm on Community_SSU webpage Dec 05 20:36:00 Clicking testing Dec 05 20:36:01 you did WHAT? Dec 05 20:36:26 you obviously think you're smarter than the cssu installer Dec 05 20:36:49 Oh, crap... This cssu installer doesn't want to run Dec 05 20:36:57 I'm trying to make it Dec 05 20:37:08 So, i'm started from the beggining Dec 05 20:37:16 *beginning :) Dec 05 20:37:17 no, you didn't Dec 05 20:38:07 you aborted installation it seems, then messed around with catalogs, and restarted cssu installation process on a system that's in undefined state Dec 05 20:38:35 I think it was messed during i did update with apt-get upgrdae Dec 05 20:38:57 no it didn't, the cssu enabler will just not run again Dec 05 20:39:05 manual fix: readd the catalog, then do system upgrade from HAM Dec 05 20:39:14 >>5. Hildon Application Manager (HAM) will launch and begin processing (be patient as nothing seems to happen for some minutes). There are a series of installations for which it will prompt you with messages and warnings. Click "Accept" and "Done" for each to install. << Dec 05 20:39:18 better fix, considering your skills: restore your backup, then FOLLOW THE FUCKING INSTRUCTIONS Dec 05 20:39:25 HAM tells me it has nothing to upgrade to Dec 05 20:39:53 There were no warnings and messages Dec 05 20:40:14 I was only asked to add CSSU catalog into the HAM Dec 05 20:40:20 that's when you aborted the install Dec 05 20:40:25 Ok...will start it agian Dec 05 20:40:40 that's not warranted to work Dec 05 20:40:51 Sure Dec 05 20:41:10 that WILL NOT work Dec 05 20:41:13 apt-get install community-ssu-enabler Dec 05 20:41:21 Wait a bit Dec 05 20:41:30 DocScrutinizer05: that's already installed, and rerunning it won't do anything Dec 05 20:41:38 I see a high cpu load , after i added the CSSU catalog Dec 05 20:41:44 Looks like it does something Dec 05 20:41:51 IT DOES!!!! Dec 05 20:41:55 Crap!! It asked me about! Dec 05 20:41:56 damn Dec 05 20:42:01 Community SSU Enable:) Dec 05 20:42:03 * kerio feels that the concept of "wait a bit" is not quite understood Dec 05 20:42:18 It want's me to install that crap :0 Dec 05 20:42:21 [2012-12-05 21:39:14] >>5. Hildon Application Manager (HAM) will launch and begin processing (be patient as nothing seems to happen for some minutes). There are a series of installations for which it will prompt you with messages and warnings. Click "Accept" and "Done" for each to install. << Dec 05 20:42:30 (be patient as nothing seems to happen for some minutes) Dec 05 20:42:32 Yea yea ... You were right :) Dec 05 20:42:35 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Dec 05 20:42:42 Shit...that's my fault :) Dec 05 20:42:43 dafaq! Dec 05 20:42:57 * XATRIX *shrugs* Dec 05 20:43:54 Alright, seems like it said 1 appl. successfully installd Dec 05 20:44:12 Let's go find this AWESOME app Dec 05 20:44:15 ...one? :o Dec 05 20:44:34 Wait.. It still doing something Dec 05 20:45:16 Holy shit, i have yellow blinking box in my system tray Dec 05 20:45:25 ZOMG!1!1 Dec 05 20:45:28 kerio: community-ssu-enabler Dec 05 20:45:31 it's almost as if you followed the instructions Dec 05 20:45:41 ^^ Dec 05 20:45:52 Let's go update it Dec 05 20:46:12 you still don't like to follow instructions? Dec 05 20:46:18 well Dec 05 20:46:25 Waht...why ? Dec 05 20:46:44 >>6. Once this is completed, close HAM and go into the applications menu. Tap the Community SSU icon. This will run through a series of scripts to ensure the community repository are set up.<< Dec 05 20:46:52 Ah..right Dec 05 20:47:10 Sorry, i jut have my head off :((( It was a long day... Dec 05 20:48:46 Ok...i started the script, it did some checks , mostly said ...already updated ...already updated. Replaced some of my repositories Dec 05 20:48:54 And startded the HAM again Dec 05 20:49:20 Hope this time it won't give up ;) Dec 05 20:49:54 >>7. HAM will re-open and present you the real thing: a system upgrade called Maemo 5 Community SSU - probably you want to install it ;-D. This will take a while. Once installed, your device will reboot.<< Dec 05 20:50:18 Yes, yes ...i'm currently reading this up :) Dec 05 20:50:30 finally \o/ Dec 05 20:50:32 Installing this CSSU package Dec 05 20:51:04 It tells me the devices gonna be restarted Dec 05 20:51:10 After the update completes Dec 05 20:51:21 ~45MB to download Dec 05 20:51:49 it's a system update Dec 05 20:52:40 45MB seem just OK for system update Dec 05 20:54:17 Also i have multiple libqtm-* (bearer contacts location...) below Maermo 5 Community SSU Package Dec 05 20:54:18 anyway keep in mind that your installation is kinda "tainted" since you messed around with CSSU installation quite a bit. It's not cleear if it "healed" everything you did, even when it seems to install OK Dec 05 20:54:40 ignore those Dec 05 20:54:41 Should i start this update also , after i it finish with CSSU ? Dec 05 20:54:54 just install maemo CSSU system update Dec 05 20:55:03 Ok Dec 05 20:55:08 they will vanish with CSSU update Dec 05 20:55:16 Can i revert the changes i made ? Dec 05 20:55:17 iirc Dec 05 20:55:25 I mean that's what i messed Dec 05 20:56:11 Also, i'd like to ask about "power"-kernel :) Dec 05 20:56:18 since it's unclear what resulted from you aborting the initial community-ssu-enabler install, it's hard to tell how to revert Dec 05 20:56:20 Is it worthy to install Dec 05 20:56:39 The main deal is to flash it back again :) Dec 05 20:56:42 XATRIX: do you need its features? Dec 05 20:57:06 Sure, why not? It has iptables, it has more futures to save power stuff Dec 05 20:57:17 Maybe it has even patch for tickless kernel :) Dec 05 20:57:27 Multiple filesystems Dec 05 20:57:29 XATRIX: generally speaking every app that needs KP will DEPEND on it so it gets installed Dec 05 20:58:48 Also , talking about CSSU, is it ongoing ? I heard it's deprecated Dec 05 20:58:57 I mean stopped developing Dec 05 20:59:21 if you know you need any of the low level core system facilities like netfilter, alternative filesystems, whatever, you're free to install KP Dec 05 20:59:41 XATRIX: huh? who told such BS? Dec 05 20:59:54 Wikipedia O_O Dec 05 20:59:58 XATRIX, There was an update yesterday. Dec 05 21:00:25 So, wait a bit... Let me get it clear... Dec 05 21:00:56 Maemo 5 is not going to develop, as wikipedia mentioned, but i can still receive updates via CSSU ? Dec 05 21:01:06 Without CSSU i will not be able to ? Dec 05 21:01:10 yes, that's the idea of CSSU Dec 05 21:03:33 Ok Dec 05 21:03:44 XATRIX, what is your main language? Dec 05 21:03:59 Ukrainean/Russian Dec 05 21:04:31 cze" Dec 05 21:04:35 cze! Dec 05 21:04:49 My english is so bad... Isn't it ? :))) Dec 05 21:04:57 Or why did you ask ? Dec 05 21:07:23 Also, i'd like to ask , is it good to enable SmartReflex via CPU management utility ? Dec 05 21:07:50 XATRIX, No Dec 05 21:08:08 Anything to prove it ? Dec 05 21:09:04 remove the cpu managaement utility. Dec 05 21:09:05 Smart reflex is broken on nokia kernel. Dec 05 21:09:05 If you want smart reflex you must install power-kernel. Dec 05 21:09:26 Crap...I swear i will!!!! Dec 05 21:10:11 Is there any precautions to install power-kernel ? Dec 05 21:10:18 Or just hit-n-run ? Dec 05 21:11:01 XATRIX, The obvious dangers of overclocking a PC still apply to the n900. Dec 05 21:11:23 Sure, that's thing is clear for so far :) Dec 05 21:11:34 well, SmartReflex *in theory* will save some power, but nobody bothered yet to test *how much* it actually saves in real life Dec 05 21:11:40 However, I feel the benefits outweigh the costs/risks. Dec 05 21:11:56 DocScrutinizer05, your time has come. Dec 05 21:12:01 ;) That's why i'm gonna try this thing out Dec 05 21:12:07 while there's still that statement that SR is proken on a hw level on N900, resulting in instabilities Dec 05 21:12:19 broken* Dec 05 21:12:23 DocScrutinizer05, FMG fixed it. Dec 05 21:12:42 Any manual i can read about ? :) Dec 05 21:12:42 vi_: vi fixed nothing on hw level Dec 05 21:12:44 ^^ Dec 05 21:12:59 err FMG Dec 05 21:12:59 This time i will read it from start to the end ;) Dec 05 21:14:06 Ok..i've found the howto for KP Dec 05 21:14:14 FMG assumed what might be the root cause that made Nokia say "SR is broken", and he added some workaround for this supposed cause maybe. But nobody but Nokia knows if this beena correct assumption Dec 05 21:15:11 If i install KP, will it remove my default one ? Dec 05 21:15:31 and nobody really investigated *how much* SR will actually save, compared to basically same thinh done "manually" in maemo kernel, via software Dec 05 21:15:43 XATRIX: sure Dec 05 21:15:49