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Dec 12 08:31:29 <frals> someone rang?
Dec 12 08:35:06 <DocScrutinizer05> frals: yeah, somebody had problems with fmms
Dec 12 08:35:34 <frals> uh
Dec 12 08:35:43 <frals> that still stuff still haunts me :P
Dec 12 08:35:58 <DocScrutinizer05> hehe
Dec 12 08:36:06 <DocScrutinizer05> doomed
Dec 12 08:54:20 <frals> yeah ;)
Dec 12 08:56:31 * Jaffa keeps seeing his name highlight go off, but misses the ping :-(
Dec 12 08:56:36 <Jaffa> So: morning, all
Dec 12 09:07:15 <DocScrutinizer05> morning Jaffa
Dec 12 09:08:11 <DocScrutinizer05> for your convenience: [2012-12-10 22:19:55] <kerio> Jaffa: *poke*
Dec 12 09:08:26 <DocScrutinizer05> and it seems it's obsolete
Dec 12 09:08:48 <DocScrutinizer05> kerio did a mass ping on all chanops
Dec 12 09:33:50 <chem|st> DocScrutinizer05: ask reggie for the DB without the user table, that was all he was concerned about
Dec 12 09:34:13 <chem|st> or database without email and passwords
Dec 12 09:35:29 <chem|st> honestly I do not know what is the problem with giving someone else the data... 
Dec 12 09:35:40 <chem|st> I'd jump in if need be
Dec 12 09:43:53 <DocScrutinizer05> reggie aiui even agreed on handing out the *complete* database to council's/board's responsibility
Dec 12 09:44:13 <chem|st> long time ago
Dec 12 09:44:29 <chem|st> then he denied... or did that change again?
Dec 12 09:44:40 <DocScrutinizer05> chem|st: much appreciated to hear you'd be available for master of tmo in place of reggie
Dec 12 09:45:16 <chem|st> at least it would not be the first time I'd manage a bulletin
Dec 12 09:45:49 <chem|st> for the servers, what are the software snippets running on it
Dec 12 09:46:05 <chem|st> a forum a wiki a builder a repo?
Dec 12 09:46:15 <chem|st> a bugtracker?
Dec 12 09:46:20 <DocScrutinizer05> >>I was hoping to give mySQL dump of all data and other resource (images, etc) and the new forum admin can just restore them<< [quote reggie]
Dec 12 09:46:51 <chem|st> when was that?
Dec 12 09:47:10 <DocScrutinizer05> 2012-12-10
Dec 12 09:47:21 <chem|st> ah ok then there is no problem
Dec 12 09:48:50 <DocScrutinizer05> >>if someone can give me temporary ftp access to the new server, I can upload files directly<< (R.Bauer asked for a DVD[!!])
Dec 12 09:49:02 <chem|st> WTF
Dec 12 09:49:08 <DocScrutinizer05> lol yeah
Dec 12 09:49:49 <DocScrutinizer05> even CD
Dec 12 09:49:50 <chem|st> if reggie needs to have the server down soon I can hold the backup till we are ready
Dec 12 09:50:12 <DocScrutinizer05> merlin1991 already taking care 
Dec 12 09:50:23 <chem|st> servers?
Dec 12 09:50:34 <DocScrutinizer05> unclear yet
Dec 12 09:50:52 <chem|st> taking care of what then, getting the dump?
Dec 12 09:50:58 <DocScrutinizer05> yep
Dec 12 09:51:01 <chem|st> ok
Dec 12 09:51:19 <DocScrutinizer05> I suggested rsync instead of ftp
Dec 12 09:51:35 <chem|st> you don't know reggies end
Dec 12 09:51:36 <DocScrutinizer05> so reggie could update the backup on 31.
Dec 12 09:51:51 <chem|st> the dump is a single file
Dec 12 09:51:56 <DocScrutinizer05> indeed, might be windoze
Dec 12 09:52:19 <DocScrutinizer05> and yeah, I already mused about whether rsync is able to optimze that
Dec 12 09:52:29 <chem|st> not really
Dec 12 09:52:42 <DocScrutinizer05> you could chop it into chunks with tar
Dec 12 09:53:05 <chem|st> wont help as the database is altered in different places
Dec 12 09:53:13 <DocScrutinizer05> right :-S
Dec 12 09:53:19 <chem|st> and the dump is linear
Dec 12 09:53:35 <chem|st> that is actually a mysql fsckup
Dec 12 09:53:48 <chem|st> don't know if that changed yet
Dec 12 09:54:05 <chem|st> haven't had any mysql stuff for about 5 years now
Dec 12 09:56:37 * DocScrutinizer05 thinks you could do a "SQL-diff" only altering/creating records changed since last dump
Dec 12 09:59:32 <chem|st> yes you can
Dec 12 09:59:56 <chem|st> never worked for me to have it in the same file...
Dec 12 10:00:06 <DocScrutinizer05> if you got a nodup primary plus date, then yes
Dec 12 10:13:10 <chem|st> well I'm not gonna be the server admin so what do I care ;)
Dec 12 11:06:00 * ShadowJK likes his Maildir, perfectly rsyncable
Dec 12 12:24:09 <DocScrutinizer05> http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1303767#post1303767
Dec 12 13:17:18 <DocScrutinizer05> GeneralAntilles: Jaffa: ^^^ could you add according story to next MWKN?
Dec 12 13:22:05 <Jaffa> DocScrutinizer05: Done. Can you edit the first post as to what you're planning on keeping running (just TMO? Everything? Somewhere in between)
Dec 12 13:23:01 <DocScrutinizer05> Jaffa: oooh, you think we're going to ditch something?  Nah, for sure we try to keep maemo infra alive as is
Dec 12 13:23:32 <Jaffa> DocScrutinizer05: OK, but you mention "you get to keep TMO alive" that *could* imply the rest isn't.
Dec 12 13:23:54 <DocScrutinizer05> we *might* need to disconmtinue pre-diablo repos maybe, or at least autobuilder for those
Dec 12 13:24:27 <DocScrutinizer05> the rest isn't that urgent, since tmo is the first bit suffering impact
Dec 12 13:24:49 <DocScrutinizer05> I'll add a post clarifying about that
Dec 12 13:25:10 <Jaffa> Cool
Dec 12 14:17:28 <freemangordon> DocScrutinizer05: unfortunately my scoolmate company does only physical hosting, BUT I am expecting him to send me contact of one of the biggest Bulgarian SPs. He told me that they host their company web page(server) at the price of about 15 euro per year. 
Dec 12 14:18:02 <freemangordon> So I'll check what could be done
Dec 12 14:27:24 <DocScrutinizer05> freemangordon: thanks
Dec 12 14:35:27 <freemangordon> DocScrutinizer05: so far nothing to thank me for :)
Dec 12 15:56:25 <freemangordon> DocScrutinizer05: 1GB RAM, 100GB storage, 3 cores, 20MBit/s == ~440 euro per year. If the sizing is higher or lower than needed, it could be adjused on-the-fly
Dec 12 15:57:01 <freemangordon> DocScrutinizer05: this is superhosting.bg
Dec 12 15:57:43 <freemangordon> the price is with VAT
Dec 12 16:18:23 <thedead1440> freemangordon: http://www.ovh.co.uk/dedicated_servers/kimsufi.xml you may want to look at KS 2G instead; cheaper and except for cores everything else is higher-specced
Dec 12 16:39:36 <fredddiiiii> Would anyone be able to inform me when the updated libcurl3 currently in CSSU testing will get pushed through to CSSU stable, allowing Google Sync to work again with Mail for Exchange?
Dec 12 16:40:12 <fredddiiiii> As explained here: libcurl3
Dec 12 16:40:16 <fredddiiiii> http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1269400&postcount=1565
Dec 12 16:40:16 <fredddiiiii> *
Dec 12 16:42:08 <luf> fredddiiiii: chem|st is going to do that in few weeks. He had to compile modest himself before this.
Dec 12 16:42:28 <fredddiiiii> The thing is, my phone works marvelously using just CSSU stable.
Dec 12 16:42:44 <fredddiiiii> So I am kind of hessitant to get into any extra repositories.
Dec 12 16:42:56 <fredddiiiii> The issue has been such an annoyance to me for months now.
Dec 12 16:43:56 <luf> Try to push chem|st to do it earlier ;) He's the only one who can do it as I know.
Dec 12 16:44:18 <fredddiiiii> chem|st, are you there, and do you like waffles? :3
Dec 12 16:46:36 <merlin1991> fredddiiiii: or you can dl the deb by hand and just install it :)
Dec 12 16:47:53 <merlin1991> fredddiiiii: http://repository.maemo.org/community-testing/pool/fremantle/free/c/curl/libcurl3_7.26.0-1maemo1+0cssu1_armel.deb 
Dec 12 16:51:02 <fredddiiiii> No. :<
Dec 12 17:04:41 <merlin1991> fredddiiiii: well in that case chem|st is going to push the update soon
Dec 12 17:28:47 <kerio> today my n900 was using ~300mA of current with nothing going on
Dec 12 17:28:50 <kerio> what the shit
Dec 12 17:29:05 <kerio> entered and exited offline mode and it got back to normal
Dec 12 18:06:00 <luf> kerio: maybe killing daemons like bluetooth etc should be more interesting - to see where is the problem.
Dec 12 18:06:11 <kerio> luf: i tried stopping bluetoothd, it wasn't it
Dec 12 18:06:30 <luf> kerio: one good news for me today :)
Dec 12 18:06:43 <kerio> it was precisely because of you <3
Dec 12 18:07:06 <luf> :D
Dec 12 18:24:49 <fredddiiiii> chem|st?
Dec 12 21:23:45 <NeutrinoPower> kann man an den N900 eine externe GPS-Antenne anschließen?
Dec 12 21:24:59 <ShadowJK> no
Dec 12 21:25:16 <ShadowJK> But a bluetooth gps receiver could be used
Dec 12 21:27:35 <NeutrinoPower> http://mohammadag.xceleo.org/n900-disassembly/21112010099.jpg there is an antenna-connector
Dec 12 21:28:24 <NeutrinoPower> and there are two more: http://mohammadag.xceleo.org/n900-disassembly/21112010100.jpg
Dec 12 21:30:04 <NeutrinoPower> http://david.gnedt.eu/blog/2010/05/03/n900-antenna-locations/ :)
Dec 12 21:36:48 * ShadowJK wonders if there are any bluetooth gps receivers with waas/egnos and glonass support
Dec 12 23:27:57 <DocScrutinizer05> NeutrinoPower: those are definitely not meant to get used by end user, since a) not accessible without disassembly of device and b) those receptacles are really flimsy and specified for a mating-cycle count of as low as possibly 50
Dec 12 23:34:48 <DocScrutinizer05> also for a decent external wired GPS antenna you frequently want a connector with phantom power to feed the amp in active GPS antenna
Dec 13 02:26:46 <UbuntuBOY> ho guis can You read me?
Dec 13 02:30:45 <Skry> :D
Dec 13 02:37:35 <Gear> hi. i'm having trouble with all my map software, no matter which server i choose none of them can find any results for street names
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