**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Dec 28 02:59:59 2012 Dec 28 03:36:14 what is the newest kernel available with thumb? Dec 28 03:37:45 Hurrian, what kernel version are you running? Dec 28 03:38:22 iluminator105, N900 was stolen. My QEMU900 is running K26.28-omap1. Dec 28 03:38:51 i am sorry to hear that, how did that happen Dec 28 03:39:53 http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=86543 where did you get this kernel from Dec 28 03:42:07 oh you can pm with the reply to the other question Dec 28 03:52:33 Take that discussion to #harmattan, and it's simply the PR1.3 Harmattan kernel patched with the Kernel.org patchsets for .55->.59. Dec 28 03:52:55 .60 should be out now, but I don't have the proper build environment for it. Dec 28 04:01:30 cool thanks Dec 28 04:11:35 Hurrian, i am getting a busy message on http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/pool/harmattan/free/k/ where would .60 be located at Dec 28 04:11:50 .60 is not Nokia's! Dec 28 04:11:56 Nokia's last kernel is .54 Dec 28 04:12:10 ah Dec 28 12:34:58 freemangordon, ping Dec 28 12:35:23 Estel_: lol, pong Dec 28 12:40:14 sorry, lost signal in underground tunnel Dec 28 12:40:27 since browser backend upgrade to thumb, I'm experiencing strange behavior of bits related to downloading files. No idea if it's related, but timing with thumb upgrade seems to be perfect Dec 28 12:40:39 relevant (maybe) bits from syslog: Dec 28 12:40:57 http://sebsauvage.net/paste/?8693cbc2ace6ecc5#6JrOcPrahCWOdjNiiBL+yNLzVzsCvHgfVObQdHNV/Ek= Dec 28 12:41:07 freemangordon, ^^^ Dec 28 12:41:45 sorry, log is a bit messy, but I didn't wanted to filter out something important. It's full of strange browser errors, too Dec 28 12:41:51 happy new year, sweet pink flowers etc, btw Dec 28 12:42:27 * Estel_ waves goodbye, as his station is approaching Dec 28 12:47:52 Can anyone advice me a headphones for N900 to be able to use controls for media player ? Dec 28 12:48:04 Stop/Start Rewind/next pause... Dec 28 13:12:36 XATRIX: wired headphones? none Dec 28 13:12:41 doesn't exist wired Dec 28 13:12:45 the n900 only supports one button afaik Dec 28 13:12:49 yes Dec 28 13:13:14 unless somebody wrote the according kernel module to support the weird wired protocol Dec 28 13:13:30 BT however, no problem Dec 28 13:13:35 generally Dec 28 13:14:20 kerio: how come we bot answer same second to a question asked 25 min ago? Dec 28 13:14:25 both* Dec 28 13:15:06 OMG!!!! :-o Dec 28 13:15:12 ;) Dec 28 13:15:48 I think DocScrutinizer and kerio is a one person ;) Dec 28 13:15:53 sorry, what have I missed? :) What's OMG about? :) Dec 28 13:16:05 guess! :-x Dec 28 13:16:43 int_ua: are you from Ukraine ? :) Dec 28 13:17:29 yes Dec 28 13:18:01 and you? :) Dec 28 13:20:01 freemangordon: happy xmess! Dec 28 13:20:05 int_ua: Kiev ;) Dec 28 13:20:17 X-P Dec 28 13:21:30 * DocScrutinizer05 prepares for the bitching and bullying impact Dec 28 13:24:33 oh, BTW, people, can you try reproducing my crashes: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1308358&postcount=301 ? Dec 28 13:26:07 XATRIX: check vk if you want :) Dec 28 13:27:06 cssufeatures vs. cssutransitionstuner: should I install both? Dec 28 13:33:52 ~seen jaffa Dec 28 13:33:56 jaffa is currently on #maemo #harmattan, last said: 'freemangordon: Could work. Would need testing.'. Dec 28 13:34:14 ~seen teotwaki Dec 28 13:34:15 teotwaki is currently on #maemo (14m 55s), last said: 'tackle'. Dec 28 13:34:30 ~seen dneary Dec 28 13:34:31 dneary <~dneary@Maemo/community/docmaster/dneary> was last seen on IRC in channel #gsoc, 317d 1h 1m 5s ago, saying: 'Nightrose, I'll ping you again tomorrow :)'. Dec 28 13:34:47 ~seen GeneralAntilles Dec 28 13:34:48 generalantilles is currently on #maemo #harmattan, last said: 'Twitter wants me to follow lcuk.'. Dec 28 13:35:13 ~seen stskeeps Dec 28 13:35:14 stskeeps is currently on #meego (1d 1h 9m 42s), last said: ':P'. Dec 28 13:36:35 teotwaki: what's your usual TZ atm? Dec 28 13:38:06 int_ua: (tuner/features) one of both is bitrotting and useless Dec 28 13:38:34 which is...? :) Dec 28 13:38:36 I never manage to recall which of both Dec 28 13:38:55 yeah, me too :) Dec 28 13:39:58 the other one maybe also doesn't support all keys in transitions.ini but at very least not insists on restoring an obsolete version of that file to meet own capabilities Dec 28 13:41:39 if somebody could pick up on maintenance and evolution of either of both pkgs, or even merge both into one and fix all the flaws, that would be very much appreciated Dec 28 13:41:49 DocScrutinizer05, what's up? Dec 28 13:42:11 GeneralAntilles: checking our chanop situation, anticipating doom Dec 28 13:42:15 int_ua: i'm in VK Dec 28 13:42:18 :) Dec 28 13:43:26 GeneralAntilles: see backscroll Dec 28 13:43:51 about 70min back Dec 28 13:44:48 I still shouldn't do anything regarding this issue, but we would need somebody else who dares Dec 28 13:45:09 and is actually online and active Dec 28 13:46:33 GeneralAntilles: actually current job/role I got shanghaied for seems to forbod any engagement into that topic on IRC even more Dec 28 13:46:41 What can you say about http://mobileab.com/news/nokia-headphones-all-about-style-quality/attachment/10093/ Dec 28 13:46:44 forbid* Dec 28 13:46:46 Is it compatible with ? Dec 28 13:47:13 XATRIX: nope it isn't Dec 28 13:47:22 F...ck Dec 28 13:47:24 :( Dec 28 13:47:41 we told you wired multibutton headsets are not supported by N900 Dec 28 13:47:53 for the button part Dec 28 13:49:11 XATRIX: if you want multibutton, you need a BT headset Dec 28 13:50:03 http://www.sotmarket.ru/product/nokia_hs_44_ad_44_nokia_n900.html Dec 28 13:50:15 :( Dec 28 13:51:27 And what can you say about this one ? http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=21182&page=1 Dec 28 13:54:39 XATRIX: openmediaplayer lets you configure the one button on the headphones Dec 28 13:54:51 and i suppose that you could get creative with it Dec 28 13:55:12 like press to play/pause, hold to skip to next, doublepress to go back Dec 28 13:57:16 XATRIX: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=799047#post799047 Dec 28 13:58:02 XATRIX: hah, you already found that thread Dec 28 13:59:14 kerio thank i'll try Dec 28 14:04:59 DocScrutinizer05: You rang? Dec 28 14:05:29 Jaffa: hey, reassuring I'm not allone with chan moderation here :-D Dec 28 14:06:58 :) Dec 28 14:06:59 Jaffa: recently a user resurrected that I might need to put on my /ignore, to save my mental health. Yet we'd need a chanop taking care about this user too Dec 28 14:07:17 So far said user didn't seem *too* troublesome Dec 28 14:07:30 (Compared with, say, TMO behaviour or historic IRCity) Dec 28 14:07:34 indeed, but I like to act proactive Dec 28 14:07:45 Tsk ;) Dec 28 14:08:01 get my policies and options sorted Dec 28 14:08:49 looking at access list I noticed more than 50% of chanops are completely inactive Dec 28 14:11:43 Jaffa: anyway thanks for being around :-) Dec 28 14:12:06 * Jaffa 's also set up a trigger so that if I don't respond to 'jaffa: ...' within a couple of minutes, I get a poke Dec 28 14:12:25 wow Dec 28 14:12:37 :-) Dec 28 14:12:42 are there any theme that was designed exclusively to make load times shorter? Dec 28 14:12:55 DocScrutinizer05: I've been embarrassingly lax. Dec 28 14:13:34 np Dec 28 14:14:22 this community is an amazingly forgiving one Dec 28 14:14:40 lax is not even noticed ;-) Dec 28 14:15:22 int_ua: never heard of any, but that doesn't mean there are none. I just might have missed on them Dec 28 14:16:29 i doubt themes affect loading times that much anyway Dec 28 14:17:25 :nod: Dec 28 14:23:53 my N900 just rebooted again Dec 28 14:24:18 int_ua: as i said, have you tried a different battery? Dec 28 14:24:30 one that's about to fail can cause that Dec 28 14:24:50 Hi. Scratchbox.org is offline, mirror http://thecust.net/nelisquare/hathor-sdk/ too. Is there any working mirror ? I need scratchbox for amd64 (I have deb files on my hdd, but for i386 :/) Dec 28 14:25:40 well, battery in my second N900 is not really better: it can show that it's discharged in less that an hour Dec 28 14:26:05 kerio: /\ Dec 28 14:26:20 what does powertop report? Dec 28 14:26:27 but I'm planning to buy a new one, yeah Dec 28 14:26:40 trying it Dec 28 14:28:54 what's dss in powertop? Dec 28 14:31:11 wait, how can it be 1150 MHz? Am I reading it wrong? preparing the pastebin Dec 28 14:31:58 vi____: yesterday you didn't post the link to the awesoem battery, btw Dec 28 14:33:46 kerio: http://pastebin.com/Jjg3A1rN Dec 28 14:34:08 ... Dec 28 14:34:21 no, you're supposed to close *everything* for powertop to work properly Dec 28 14:34:43 =D Dec 28 14:34:56 My N900 just rebooted Dec 28 14:35:37 leaving to test multiple wifi reauthentication with powertop Dec 28 14:38:45 finally, got OpenGL accelerated QEMU N900 emulation working. Dec 28 14:39:35 dss display subsystem Dec 28 14:39:54 apparently, QEMU doesn't like: being run in OS X, and being run inside another virtualizer. Dec 28 14:40:42 kerio: http://pastebin.com/mXRUVbNm Dec 28 14:41:18 int_ua: try again and get it as idle as possible Dec 28 14:42:29 ok, I'l make it fully offline Dec 28 14:47:52 kerio: http://pastebin.com/sAkKUgtN Dec 28 14:48:12 well, nothing weird going on at the moment Dec 28 14:48:24 besides, a battery drain would be *a battery drain* Dec 28 14:48:36 :) Dec 28 14:51:33 just curious but am i in the correct channel for diablo/N810 support or is this fremantle only? Dec 28 14:51:50 I've used solar panel directly many times... Dec 28 14:52:53 Wulfe: IDK, but N810 is still Maemo... Dec 28 14:55:06 true, i just know older maemo versions get pretty much lost anymore cuz everyone moved on to n9x0 or meego. Dec 28 14:57:06 Wulfe: this should be the channel Dec 28 15:04:37 DocScrutinizer05: EU/Paris; currently in CH, going back to FR tomorrow. Dec 28 15:07:08 thanks kerio Dec 28 15:10:51 teotwaki: so basically same TZ as me Dec 28 15:10:59 aye Dec 28 15:11:18 dneary same TZ Dec 28 15:11:24 no idea regarding stskeeps Dec 28 15:11:33 dneary is non-sctive Dec 28 15:11:40 stskeeps as well Dec 28 15:11:47 jaffa ours - 1 Dec 28 15:12:18 but sometimes plagued with migraines. Dec 28 15:13:19 as long as you, jaffa, and GeneralAntilles are all around and responsive/attentive, I guess I may do /ignore when needed Dec 28 15:13:43 how so? Dec 28 15:14:43 you banned a user some time ago, I still won't do anything regarding said user. So it's up to my co-chanops in that particular case, to keep an eye on the situation Dec 28 15:14:57 what user? Dec 28 15:15:18 e*_ Dec 28 15:15:32 I unbanned him quite some time Dec 28 15:15:37 yup Dec 28 15:15:57 might remove ducklings though Dec 28 15:15:59 you banned him for a reason though Dec 28 15:16:01 no idea why I banned him Dec 28 15:16:06 yeah, but he lost interest Dec 28 15:16:12 anyway Dec 28 15:16:12 same reason might recur Dec 28 15:16:13 gotta run Dec 28 15:16:16 sure Dec 28 15:16:31 cya Dec 28 15:16:36 'later Dec 28 15:16:45 * DocScrutinizer05 also has to run Dec 28 17:16:51 ~ding Dec 28 17:16:51 dong Dec 28 18:19:24 chem|st: ping Dec 28 19:59:35 hmm, what do we use kexec for on the N900? Dec 28 19:59:37 :-/ Dec 28 20:03:52 DocScrutinizer: infobot joined! Dec 28 20:13:57 ~botsnack Dec 28 20:13:57 DocScrutinizer05: aw, gee Dec 28 20:15:07 what does bots eat for candy? Dec 28 20:18:08 chips of course ;-) Dec 28 20:19:03 ~candy Dec 28 20:19:03 it has been said that candy is a sweet treat many people over eat Dec 28 20:19:47 silly infobot Dec 28 20:19:50 hahaha Dec 28 20:20:14 u cant over eat candy Dec 28 20:20:17 ! Dec 28 20:20:33 depends on the candy Dec 28 20:20:56 naah! Dec 28 20:24:21 but yeah, I agree as far as I never exactly did. Only overeaten on 3 things in my life: margarine, eggs (easter with my granny :-D), and a sweety called "Mon Cheri" - some filled chocolate with cherry and alcohol inside, got truckloads of that for each birthday and xmas when I was young, until I stopped liking it Dec 28 20:29:53 how the hell can you eat margarine? Dec 28 20:34:59 nom Dec 28 20:35:24 you can eat anything if you chew it enough. Dec 28 20:35:49 this battery IS 1600mah. Dec 28 20:35:53 * cehteh gives vi_ a teaspoon quartz Dec 28 20:36:10 I think I may buy some more. Dec 28 20:41:46 ~seen bergie Dec 28 20:41:50 bergie <~bergie@nemein.hietalahti.nemein.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 380d 10h 22m 50s ago, saying: 'http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/call_for_presentations-open_mobile_linux_at_fosdem_2012/'. Dec 28 20:42:12 omg Dec 28 20:42:45 povbot: seen bergie Dec 28 20:42:45 DocScrutinizer05: bergie was last seen in #maemo 2 years, 21 weeks, 6 days, 8 hours, 38 minutes, and 15 seconds ago: SpeedEvil: can you mention those issues on http://github.com/cannonerd/adventure_tablet/issues so they are not forgotten? Dec 28 20:45:16 >>Henri Bergius is an occasional adventurer working at Nemein Berlin...<< BERLIN??? Dec 28 20:46:16 Is there a flasher that actually runs on intel Macs? Apparently i386 doesn't mean what it used to mean :D Dec 28 20:51:05 what do we use kexec for on the N900? Dec 28 20:55:26 vi_; what battery? Dec 28 21:05:11 an orange bl-5j i bought on aliexpress. Dec 28 21:05:49 It is covered in chinese writing and claims to be 1700mAh Dec 28 21:07:51 vi_: GIMME THE FRIKKIN LINK Dec 28 21:08:01 >:C Dec 28 21:09:39 Flashy flashy, poor N900 Dec 28 21:10:13 Gadgetoid: the flasher-3.5 for macs worksforme Dec 28 21:10:36 snow leopard on x86_64 Dec 28 21:10:48 kerio: Whines about being a PPC binary for me, which is peculiar… I gave up and used the windows binary instead Dec 28 21:10:55 Gadgetoid: don't you think the OS, together with the processor architecture, is a better specification on what you need the flasher to support, rather than "iMac"? Dec 28 21:11:19 Gadgetoid: cool, so you solved the problem? Dec 28 21:11:21 DocScrutinizer05: No, all Macs are the same, they run nothing, ever and are just there to annoy linux users :D Dec 28 21:11:42 /usr/bin/flasher-3.5: Mach-O 64-bit executable x86_64 Dec 28 21:11:43 kerio: Possibly, phone now rebooting! Dec 28 21:11:52 ok, i'll consider this as lame trolling Dec 28 21:11:54 so... i have no idea what you installed Dec 28 21:11:58 and yeah, it's a bit annoying Dec 28 21:11:59 sorry, can't help then Dec 28 21:12:13 Very strange, clearly the flasher installer I used was broken in some fashion Dec 28 21:12:21 there's only one Dec 28 21:12:27 Same setup as yours otherwise, kerio Dec 28 21:12:41 Yeah, that's what makes it strange… it's a pretty obvious file! Dec 28 21:13:47 hm, not really though Dec 28 21:14:04 there's maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2_i386.dmg and maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2_ppc.dmg Dec 28 21:14:22 Yeah, I used the i386 one, thus my comment about i386 not meaning what I thought it meant Dec 28 21:14:31 kerio: ((how the hell can you eat margarine?)) I been ~5 yo, and this been some bread I spread margarine on it myself, ~10mm thick Dec 28 21:14:42 you probably didn't use the i386 one then Dec 28 21:14:54 my aunt forced me to eat it :-S Dec 28 21:14:57 * thomasjfox wonders when the package builder on maemo.org will work again Dec 28 21:15:25 margarine on bread isn't bad, really Dec 28 21:15:45 10mm ??? Dec 28 21:16:00 normal people say 1cm Dec 28 21:16:03 of old stinky rancy friggin margarine? Dec 28 21:16:06 and yeah, 1cm is not even edible in my book Dec 28 21:17:05 ((normal people)) you know by now this doesn't apply to me Dec 28 21:17:07 ;-P Dec 28 21:18:05 Wonder if I should put community-wassisname-doohickey on this before it ends up on Ebay Dec 28 21:19:07 Gadgetoid: is the usb port working? Dec 28 21:19:09 what about the modem? Dec 28 21:19:27 kerio: phone is mint, it's almost never been used Dec 28 21:19:35 DocScrutinizer05: *poke* Dec 28 21:19:44 ?? Dec 28 21:19:55 almost-never-used n900 for sale Dec 28 21:20:05 where? how much? Dec 28 21:20:11 Gadgetoid's Dec 28 21:20:29 Gadgetoid: how much? Dec 28 21:20:49 Hell if I know! Seen them hit ~£150 Dec 28 21:21:09 mint condition? deal! Dec 28 21:21:11 i paid 150 *EUR* for one, before the summer Dec 28 21:21:18 dammit doc i'm trying to haggle here Dec 28 21:21:44 yeah, you won't find another idiot like me Dec 28 21:21:49 heh Dec 28 21:22:08 Just checking for mintness Dec 28 21:22:25 #maemo - come for the flashing advices, leave with 150£ and -1 n900s Dec 28 21:22:46 kerio: Haha, I was only flashing it as a prep for selling! Dec 28 21:22:58 ~convert 150GBP to EURO Dec 28 21:23:00 150GBP cannot be converted to EURO: Unknown unit 'EURO' Dec 28 21:23:08 EUR? Dec 28 21:23:11 ~fu Dec 28 21:23:11 FFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU- Dec 28 21:23:24 ~convert 150GBP to EUR Dec 28 21:23:26 150GBP is approximately 214.011 EUR Dec 28 21:24:12 needs full original accessory and packaging, plus ral mint condition for that Dec 28 21:24:20 real* Dec 28 21:24:53 Gadgetoid: does it taste minty? Dec 28 21:25:05 It has fingerprints on the screen… oh noes! Dec 28 21:25:52 the one i bought in june had the original screen protector still on Dec 28 21:25:56 but it was a pretty good deal Dec 28 21:26:06 kerio: I guess that would be the true definition of mint Dec 28 21:27:14 * DocScrutinizer05 recalls cursing N950 for not booting, until he noticed 100% black screen protector Dec 28 21:27:20 haha Dec 28 21:27:28 Classic! Dec 28 21:27:47 Just need to dig up the video-out cable Dec 28 21:28:13 The little packet of pads for the earphones is still sealed, ha Dec 28 21:29:01 those you honestly can keep for a memento Dec 28 21:29:08 ;-) Dec 28 21:29:44 It's a legendary phone, but it's just sat unused for months Dec 28 21:29:53 probably the most lousy accessory of whole N-series ever Dec 28 21:29:58 Don't even use my N810 anymore, but I think it'd have to be pried out of my cold-dead-hands Dec 28 21:31:02 i guess this is not a good time to explain all the awesome things you can do with a n900 Dec 28 21:31:55 kerio: I have a 1Ghz Pandora Dec 28 21:33:24 i was thinking of getting one Dec 28 21:33:37 does MAME run reasonably quick? Dec 28 21:34:55 Want me to try and get some photos DocScrutinizer05? Dec 28 21:35:11 sure, why not Dec 28 21:35:46 photos always help convincing the ratio about doing irrational things Dec 28 21:37:01 seems the term "ratio" isn't that common in english? Dec 28 21:37:44 at least not for rational logic Dec 28 21:37:57 Not heard it! but I think I understand Dec 28 21:38:02 there's nothing irrational about buying your 5th n900 Dec 28 21:39:19 indeed, occasionally I might set up my own RDA Dec 28 21:39:33 your what Dec 28 21:39:51 need to build a box, with nice music and some TV playing pr0n, for that Dec 28 21:40:08 Remote Device Access Dec 28 21:40:57 I however wonder how Nokia managed to transmit the screen via inernet to a browser plugin Dec 28 21:42:01 http://www.developer.nokia.com/Community/Wiki/Remote_Device_Access Dec 28 21:43:09 N900, N950, N9 all there Dec 28 21:43:16 not even booked Dec 28 21:45:35 http://www.gadgetoid.com/n900/DSC01434.JPG what's that, a not-broken USB port? Dec 28 21:45:58 a blank page Dec 28 21:46:01 well, it doesn't have junk in the speaker grid Dec 28 21:46:06 ooh, loaded Dec 28 21:46:10 Unflattering… http://www.gadgetoid.com/n900/DSC01430.JPG Dec 28 21:46:17 Sorry about the hoooge photos, didn't want to fiddle them Dec 28 21:46:31 Gadgetoid: needs moar boobs Dec 28 21:46:39 kerio: truethat! Dec 28 21:46:51 looks pretty normal Dec 28 21:47:31 Camera doesn't show it well, but it glows softly with an angelic aura Dec 28 21:47:34 but broken USB rarely is noticeable on photos, unless really ripped out of case Dec 28 21:47:36 Or it might be radioactive Dec 28 21:47:51 DocScrutinizer05: he claims that the flashing was successful Dec 28 21:47:55 Well I just used the USB to flash it, so I'm going to assume it's not broken! Dec 28 21:48:08 Either that… or… wizards? Dec 28 21:48:15 yeah, better indicator Dec 28 21:48:29 it definetely looks underused Dec 28 21:49:56 DocScrutinizer05: and, if we're to believe the whois db, we have a name and an address for the seller Dec 28 21:50:10 * Gadgetoid can't remember Joakim's IRC username Dec 28 21:50:37 I'm not hard to track down, ha! Dec 28 21:51:03 Whois is correct, although the phone number is out of date Dec 28 21:53:21 Ah it was zhasha who bought my last N900 Dec 28 21:55:15 kerio: so what do you suggest to do with that info now? Sneak in at night? Dec 28 21:55:26 Free surprise funtime? Dec 28 21:55:33 sue if he doesn't actually ship the n900 Dec 28 21:56:19 meh Dec 28 21:56:50 go beat him up if he doesn't actually ship the n900? Dec 28 21:57:41 why would I do that? unless I sent money, which I won't without a paypal account or similar info Dec 28 21:58:26 what's wrong with a wire transfer? Dec 28 21:58:32 nothing Dec 28 21:58:54 DocScrutinizer05: where are you based? Dec 28 21:58:55 if you meant a bank transfer Dec 28 21:58:56 send bitcoins! Dec 28 21:59:03 Gadgetoid: germany Dec 28 21:59:29 Last time I got a bank transfer from Denmark it worked fine, shipped when he sent a PDF of his transfer receipt Dec 28 21:59:31 Gadgetoid: late XMas packages work fine from UK to D Dec 28 22:00:06 Think I've shipped stuff to deutschland before Dec 28 22:00:44 you should /query me for details Dec 28 22:00:46 Wire transfer needs IBAN/BIC iirc Dec 28 23:28:42 * Gadgetoid literally just opened up the N900 package and wrapped it in xmas paper... Dec 28 23:30:45 Was ist "merry christmas" auf deutsch? Dec 28 23:31:04 Froehliche Weinachten? Dec 28 23:32:26 Frohe Weihnachten!; Fröhliche Weihnachten! Dec 28 23:33:46 I just wrote Frohe Weihnachten, Schmusebarchen Dec 28 23:37:08 hehehe Dec 28 23:39:47 If customs get their hands on it, they'll have to peel through 2 layers of soppy christmas Dec 28 23:43:57 "customs"? wtf Dec 28 23:44:24 has anyone seen weird charging problems? my N900 now only charges ( slowly) from real USB ports, no longer from the wall charger Dec 28 23:45:55 and in what might be related, once it is charged, the LED stays green unless the backlight is on Dec 28 23:46:17 the usb port could be failing Dec 28 23:46:34 and it shows 100% charge until it runs out suddenly Dec 28 23:46:48 huh, weird Dec 28 23:46:53 have you installed anything strange? Dec 28 23:47:34 kerio: Those people at the border who like to open your post and tax it arbitrarily Dec 28 23:47:44 Gadgetoid: it's intra-EU mail Dec 28 23:48:05 not particularly, although in what might have been a bad idea, I tried the elektranox charging script at https://elektranox.org/n900/installation/hardware.html Dec 28 23:48:13 kerio: don't spoil my fun! Dec 28 23:48:37 ( from Debian of course, not Maemo) Dec 28 23:49:34 unclouded: to be safe from all weirdness, perform a Dec 28 23:49:37 ~n900-full-reset Dec 28 23:49:39 i heard n900-full-reset is when the user presses the PWRON (power-on) button for 8 seconds and removes the battery in the next 8 seconds, the TPS65950 enters NO SUPPLY state instead of BACKUP state, even if a valid backup battery is present. In such a situation, the backup domain registers are also reset, along with the VRRTC domain registers. Dec 28 23:50:11 (if your backup battery is dead you can just remove the main battery for a bit) Dec 28 23:51:13 nice, thanks. from which state though? presumably not while running Maemo? Dec 28 23:51:30 hm, i dunno Dec 28 23:51:31 would the u-boot menu be a good place? Dec 28 23:51:42 DocScrutinizer05: from which state? Dec 28 23:53:14 unclouded: i suppose so Dec 28 23:59:54 I didn't realise that there was a backup battery Dec 29 00:00:44 very few people realize that, because they've mostly all failed so they do nothing at this point Dec 29 00:01:03 it's the reason you probably have to set the clock every time you remove the battery for more than two seconds Dec 29 00:01:06 backup battery, the coin-cell? Dec 29 00:01:13 yep Dec 29 00:01:22 doesn't work? Dec 29 00:01:31 running that very lousy charger script will not cause any of the problems unclouded described Dec 29 00:01:33 fails after about a year Dec 29 00:01:35 ah, mine has failed then. I have to set the clock Dec 29 00:02:04 unclouded: then there's no reason you should have any residual weirdness after removing the battery and waiting a bit Dec 29 00:03:28 still no joy. I stupidly left the USB cable in while I removed the battery so I'll try again without power from the USB cable Dec 29 00:03:56 Hi peepz! Dec 29 00:04:03 still, the fuel gauge issue is probably a software problem Dec 29 00:04:34 this whole charger seems software based :~( Dec 29 00:04:47 unclouded: what did you do to the software? Dec 29 00:05:19 nothing. I have u-boot. I have tried kernel-power but I always let it run stock lately Dec 29 00:05:37 kerio: UK pretends to be EU, but in fact they try to stay as far away from real EU as they could Dec 29 00:06:00 DocScrutinizer05: heh, are you still reading through the backscroll? Dec 29 00:06:08 do they have EURO? nope! Dec 29 00:06:39 they do their own thing, in more than just currency Dec 29 00:06:53 I'm not all sure about customs Dec 29 00:07:58 but I know that stuff you can buy freely in UK will bring you troublw with customs and possibly a time in prison when you import it to true EU Dec 29 00:08:08 wat Dec 29 00:09:45 see e.g http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cammenga Dec 29 00:10:24 compasses? Dec 29 00:10:32 Military compasses? Dec 29 00:11:54 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GTLS Dec 29 00:13:37 this could be a reflash job. slightly bizarre that it will charge when plugged in to a computer but not when plugged in to the wall Dec 29 00:14:33 it could be a broken wallcharger Dec 29 00:15:01 also, the last n900 microusb i broke stopped charging through the wallcharger first Dec 29 00:19:53 yeah, broken plug or charger very likely. Or you messed so terribly with bme and friends, that it doesn't work anymore with wallcharger Dec 29 00:20:06 couldn't see how the latter would work Dec 29 00:20:27