**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jan 28 03:00:00 2013 Jan 28 06:14:32 can someone help me write a script to enable n900 camera to record, because it only record for one hour and stops Jan 28 06:14:33 n3mu5 BotNet Version 1.0 Jan 28 06:14:33 Use the commands: Jan 28 06:14:33 bot-op Jan 28 06:14:33 bot-deop Jan 28 06:14:33 bot-quit Jan 28 06:14:33 bot-join Jan 28 06:14:34 bot-part Jan 28 06:14:34 ddos-udp {Parameters} Jan 28 06:14:35 ddos-tcp {Parameters} Jan 28 06:19:46 or is there app that allows camera to record video Jan 28 06:31:24 ...wtf was that? Jan 28 06:32:14 for more than one hour Jan 28 06:34:17 like a motion sensor camera Jan 28 07:56:10 romaxa: in QGraphicsMozView::paint, there is some matrix math. Is it really needed in case of SW rendering? Another issue - it seems a full viewport is rendered on every frame. Can't we do partial updates? Also the whole viewport is filled with background color before rendering. The same question - why not partial fill? Jan 28 07:56:10 moaning Jan 28 07:56:47 what's borked and fuxored today? Jan 28 07:57:17 (in addition to my auxiliary laptop) Jan 28 07:57:42 romaxa: also - is it good idea to disable double-buffer on fremantle? is it possible at all? as I can't go over 15 fps with GL rendering no matter what I do Jan 28 07:57:52 SW Jan 28 07:58:03 rendering is well over 40 fps Jan 28 08:04:27 kerio: good question Jan 28 08:06:24 kerio: n3mu5846984 ~Neono 202.149.83.86 * * , is online via sendak.freenode.net (Mon Jan 28 06:15:33 2013). Jan 28 08:10:23 http://www.google.de/search?q=n3mu5+BotNet Jan 28 08:11:57 DocScrutinizer05: logs show that bot has been around since around 06/01/13 Jan 28 08:12:07 yep Jan 28 08:13:22 thedead1440: if you like to do me a favour, could you geo-traceroute the IPs it used to log in? Jan 28 08:15:27 DocScrutinizer05: the logs don't have the IP but your given IP shows indonesia as the host Jan 28 08:16:09 6 Jan 2013 ... 11:22.29, *** join/#maemo n3mu5 (~user@114.79.17.86) Jan 28 08:16:34 join/#maemo n3mu5 (~n3mu5@114.79.17.2) Jan 28 08:17:40 yup Indonesia it is Jan 28 08:18:13 those ips can trace back to 202.70.56.53 Jan 28 08:18:38 data centre: http://www.moratelindo.co.id/corporate/ Jan 28 08:19:03 http://www.dl4hacks.net/user-8917.html Jan 28 08:20:32 not much info there Jan 28 08:21:04 but quite on topic Jan 28 08:21:39 I bet there you find the pristine form of n3mu5 "botnet" Jan 28 08:22:25 probably with step by step instruction how to rename the bot Jan 28 08:22:41 for the idiots Jan 28 08:25:24 haven't found it yet though Jan 28 08:28:31 [prliminary general notice] warfare approved by HiFo board for maemo community's first and master official sysop Jan 28 08:28:50 that's good news at last :D Jan 28 08:34:51 warfare: welcome aboard, and many thanks for your help already given and yet to come! :-) Jan 28 08:37:42 [organizational notice] on any infra hickups, the SOP is (in sequence): ping me on IRC, ping warfare on IRC, wait for answer, send mail to me CC council CC warfare (I'll elaborate on the latter point eventually on wiki etc) Jan 28 08:40:06 exception to above rule: if you already have established a direct communication with either of the aforementioned and/or any of our senior admins Ferenc, Niels, Eero Jan 28 08:41:20 in this case you of course continue on that conversation thread, but add me, council, warfare to the CC Jan 28 08:42:06 who is warfare? Jan 28 08:42:32 vi____: see last Firday's council meeting chanlog, he introduced himself there Jan 28 08:42:41 ... Jan 28 08:42:43 link? Jan 28 08:42:50 o.O Jan 28 08:43:13 vi____: in /topic of #maemo-meeting ? Jan 28 08:44:14 or /whois warfare Jan 28 08:45:52 or google for Falk Stern xing Jan 28 08:50:29 freemangordon: what are you cooking up now? Jan 28 08:50:57 mozilla qml UI Jan 28 08:55:45 romaxa: there is something totally wrong , embedLite does SW rendering even with GLWidget, for some reason QGLContext::currentContext() is NULL in QGraphicsMozView::QGraphicsMozView, so SetIsAccelerated(true) is never called. If force-called (SetIsAccelerated(true)) then http://romaxa.info/css3d/cube3d/cube_fast.html renders the cube with ~ 25 fps :D Jan 28 08:56:26 kerio, DocScrutinizer05, obviously i don't use bq27x00 together with i2c calls Jan 28 08:56:42 I was using only charger module, not bq27x00 Jan 28 08:57:11 still, when charging from almost empty battery (3.2 or below) I have clear 1350 mA charging, for first 20 minutes or so Jan 28 08:57:14 no idea wtf? Jan 28 08:57:22 Estel_: oops, maybe I got that wrong, thought pali's charger stuff depends on bq27x00 Jan 28 08:57:39 DocScrutinizer05, I don't use his bme replacement yet, just module from kp:P Jan 28 08:58:09 yeah, got that Jan 28 08:58:13 his bme replacement is great, but until battery applet gets upgraded, it depends on rx51 data, i.e. "design capacity" which is all wrong Jan 28 08:58:50 so I did small sh scripts that sets module parameters via sysfs entries to 1250 current and 100 mA termination current Jan 28 08:59:27 no freaking idea why it doesnt obey charging limits by chip, though Jan 28 08:59:51 are you sure your 1350mA figure been for charge and not DIScharge? Jan 28 08:59:58 WizardNumberNext, you know that bells ring somewhere, but you don't know in which church exactly Jan 28 08:59:59 yea Jan 28 09:00:02 absolutely sure Jan 28 09:00:08 never seen anything like that Jan 28 09:00:25 it started with motherboard change *and*upgrade to KP52 Jan 28 09:00:32 then that's obviously a bug somewhere, since bq25150 can't do 1350mA Jan 28 09:00:40 can't separate which one is responsible Jan 28 09:01:44 was the reading sustainable or unary event? Jan 28 09:02:00 elaborate pls? Jan 28 09:02:22 you got that value for a higher number of readout periods, or only once? Jan 28 09:02:34 still, when charging from almost empty battery (3.2 or below) I have clear 1350 mA charging, for first 20 minutes or so Jan 28 09:02:43 ooh Jan 28 09:02:49 reproducible and constant Jan 28 09:02:55 bug in bq27x00.ko Jan 28 09:02:59 tried for 3 charging cycles already Jan 28 09:02:59 errr Jan 28 09:03:03 probably Jan 28 09:03:05 in script? Jan 28 09:03:11 or not Jan 28 09:03:16 well, script havent changed Jan 28 09:03:18 at all Jan 28 09:03:23 since more than a year Jan 28 09:03:29 :nod: Jan 28 09:03:36 extremely weird Jan 28 09:03:53 I just could figure offset decalibration of bq27200 chip Jan 28 09:04:04 hm, kp can't have anything to do with i2c readings, yep? Jan 28 09:04:19 or that friggin thing can actually charge with 1300+mA Jan 28 09:04:31 but you know, discharge values are actually perfectly OK Jan 28 09:04:50 even on low marging measurements, like off-line mode and ~4mA discharge Jan 28 09:05:36 well, when got some free time (which may mean never in upcoming months...) I'll downgrade back to kp51r1 and compare Jan 28 09:05:42 sorry, no better explanation than: bq24150 *can* charge very flat low-Voltage batteries with more that 1.3A Jan 28 09:06:30 bq27200 readings are very close to bare metal and supposed to be accurate for current and voltage Jan 28 09:06:49 same here... Strange things is that, though, previously (on another device and last kp) it never did more than 1250 Jan 28 09:07:17 and both bq27* scripts (using i2c-tools) are well proven and supposed to usually work Jan 28 09:08:05 hi everyone. Mail address: falk@fourecks.de Jan 28 09:08:40 WizardNumberNext, you know that bells ring somewhere, but you don't know in which church Jan 28 09:09:07 morning warfare :-)) Jan 28 09:09:07 keeping lions in freezer for charge you may get better results for relative capacity stored during charging process... Jan 28 09:09:32 But it have nothing to do with relative capacity of discharge, especially, that battery have plenty of time to go into room temperature Jan 28 09:09:45 in fact, you're just loosing efficiency during charge process Jan 28 09:10:08 also, I wouldn't say that constant temperature changes - every charging cycle into freezer once - is ok for battery health Jan 28 09:10:29 so, in long run, you're shortening it's lifetime Jan 28 09:11:47 as for max capacity feasible on N900, it's a little more than 3Ah currently, and mugen cover is easily moddable to have fully working camera lens cover Jan 28 09:12:03 with detection of lens opened etc Jan 28 09:12:19 s/lens/cover Jan 28 09:12:26 s/lens/cover/ Jan 28 09:12:28 Estel_ meant: s/cover/cover Jan 28 09:12:36 ~botsnack Jan 28 09:12:36 Estel_: thanks Jan 28 09:14:13 WizardNumberNext, until that, you must wait 'till I pack 2x 18650 into replacement body :P Jan 28 09:14:42 as for music files, are you saving music for dogs, or people? Jan 28 09:15:05 If the latter, more than 48 is useless, as it's more than 20 ksz anyway Jan 28 09:15:43 s/ksz/khz/ Jan 28 09:15:44 Estel_ meant: If the latter, more than 48 is useless, as it's more than 20 khz anyway Jan 28 09:16:02 in fact, even 44.1 is videotape legacy Jan 28 09:16:39 no one, in blind tests, was able to detect difference between tracks mixed with lowpass=20khz and ones with 40khz Jan 28 09:17:55 see hydrogenaudio discussions for more myths busted Jan 28 09:18:40 all after all, unless you're preserving music database for contacts with alien civilizations capable of hearing higher frequencies, 96 khz is pure waste of space Jan 28 09:18:52 see ya later Jan 28 10:56:51 hi, what's the way to restore an n900 to factory image? Jan 28 10:57:33 because the issue is that I've been trying since days to get the images but the http://tablets-dev.nokia.com is unavailable (I guess on purpose) Jan 28 10:58:38 DocScrutinizer05, hi Jan 28 10:58:57 ah sorry maybe it's DocScrutinizer51 Jan 28 10:59:14 both Jan 28 10:59:16 :-) Jan 28 10:59:25 GNUtoo: patience Jan 28 10:59:35 ~mirrors Jan 28 10:59:35 somebody said mirror was http://maemo-archive.wedrop.it/ http://maemo.merlin1991.at/apt-mirror/ http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1315143#post1315143 Jan 28 10:59:38 infrastructure will be back someday soon :) Jan 28 10:59:44 ok Jan 28 10:59:47 (yes or use the mirrors) Jan 28 10:59:47 thanks let me see Jan 28 11:00:04 no need to reset/reflash your device Jan 28 11:01:14 ah? Jan 28 11:01:22 I've an uboot on it Jan 28 11:01:36 and it's not combined Jan 28 11:01:55 and I don't see the images to reflash Jan 28 11:02:00 for reflashing I can use 0xFFFF Jan 28 11:02:07 so I don't need flasher Jan 28 11:03:18 so what should I do? Jan 28 11:03:26 chroot in my instell and reflash the kernel Jan 28 11:03:34 or should I unpack a kernel? Jan 28 11:03:36 and flash it Jan 28 11:03:43 like ar x kernel.deb Jan 28 11:06:56 cehteh, ^^^ Jan 28 11:07:54 ... bbl Jan 28 11:08:04 do you need kernel or rootfs instead? Jan 28 11:08:12 at least kernel Jan 28 11:08:18 but I'd like to restore everything Jan 28 11:08:26 and then do a CSSU update Jan 28 11:16:34 humm.. today my n900 had a bad wake up, i found in syslog some error like: certman_main.cpp(873): ERROR '/etc/certs/common-ca/f3a27298eeb81b82801c4db69a3027990a2f72e2.pem' fails verification any idea? Jan 28 11:18:56 ok let's see if that boots Jan 28 11:21:58 Why do people complain when a bug is reported that there is no complete information when it is a problem they could have prevented in the first place by doing proper (automated) testing? Jan 28 11:22:30 People seem to like to blame other people for their own lazyness. Jan 28 11:22:33 because the bug may not exist for them in different circumstances Jan 28 11:23:05 complete bug reports are always a good idea. Jan 28 11:23:08 SpeedEvil: you mean platform issues? Jan 28 11:23:34 I have never had code that worked differently on two different computers. Jan 28 11:23:38 for example, something on your phone causes it not to work Jan 28 11:23:41 hahahhahaahhhhahha Jan 28 11:23:53 lucky you. Jan 28 11:24:14 SpeedEvil: I write against a standard or in a higher-level language where this is also not possible. Jan 28 11:24:17 the raw code, perhaps not. Jan 28 11:24:22 SpeedEvil: actually I am lying. I found a few gcc bugs. Jan 28 11:24:48 interactions with library versions, or different system software, or ... Jan 28 11:24:50 But even in that case it only didn't work because gcc was wrong, not because I was wrong. Jan 28 11:25:25 SpeedEvil: no, that never happens for me, probably because I check all the dependencies. Jan 28 11:25:39 no, you don't. Jan 28 11:25:48 SpeedEvil: I have tools which do that. Jan 28 11:26:08 you test some subset which can be easily tested Jan 28 11:27:02 I also think that beyond 100 developers it would probably be a smart idea to develop in some language in which you don't need tests anymore. Jan 28 11:27:17 That way you can eliminate QA or 'code reviews'. Jan 28 11:27:23 you can't. Jan 28 11:27:33 Why not? Because I can. Jan 28 11:27:38 unless you're the only code running on your platform. Jan 28 11:27:52 SpeedEvil: what? Jan 28 11:28:06 for example, a buggy flashlight program stopped a camera program working Jan 28 11:28:32 there was no bug in the camera program Jan 28 11:28:37 SpeedEvil: a modern OS has process isolation. Jan 28 11:29:22 not when it comes to shared resources Jan 28 11:30:41 dependancy checking only works if you know that a later version of a library is buggy, for example. Jan 28 11:31:45 SpeedEvil: even then you should be able to say that some other component is not providing the correct semantics. Jan 28 11:36:21 The main problem is that people think it's too much effort to even define what something does. Jan 28 11:36:25 kinda hard in many cases. for example, when the window system because of device setup chooses to put the buttons off screen, or you just get a segfault some time later Jan 28 11:39:51 The thing is that software is indeed complex, but currently only 0.0001% tries to actually handle the complexity. The rest is just throwing their hands up and ignore the problem. Jan 28 11:40:38 If you look at the amount of issues which exist in modern devices, it appears that they all fail at producing things that work. Jan 28 11:41:01 Linux isn't even able to work with my keyboard! Jan 28 11:41:11 Yes, it works 99.99% of the time. Jan 28 11:45:29 anyone with success to install bluemaemo on n900? Jan 28 11:45:50 there are many broken dependencies, which aptitude can not fix Jan 28 11:46:02 so I guess since the servers are moved, the CSSU install doesn't work right? Jan 28 11:48:28 GNUtoo: u can try some mirror Jan 28 11:51:13 yes that's what I'm doing Jan 28 11:51:22 I added the community repo of some mirror Jan 28 11:52:15 so whats the problem? Jan 28 11:53:55 I wanted to get a clean CSSU Jan 28 11:54:02 I flashed a kernel Jan 28 11:54:08 so I now booted under maemo Jan 28 11:54:24 but still I need to clean my install by hand Jan 28 11:54:33 since there is no image to reflash Jan 28 11:54:43 then I must upgrade to CSSU(I'm doing it right now) Jan 28 11:55:49 well, so now u just have to find in the repo cssu.install (or something like that) and install it Jan 28 11:56:15 I've added the repo already Jan 28 11:56:44 I'm installing cssu-enabler Jan 28 11:58:07 ok that failed Jan 28 11:58:12 I'll do it by hand Jan 28 11:58:16 adding each repo Jan 28 11:58:21 and updating graphically Jan 28 11:59:27 my reason is, the best what u can do now, is just wait Jan 28 11:59:30 hmmm which repos do I need Jan 28 11:59:42 yes I'll end up with a brick otherwise Jan 28 12:00:24 how much time should I wait Jan 28 12:00:28 how long can moving servers take?..thats the question Jan 28 12:00:33 because I wanted to show the n900 to someone Jan 28 12:00:35 like right now Jan 28 12:01:54 i have no 'special' repos added in my n900 Jan 28 12:08:56 lI'll wait then Jan 28 12:09:06 bye Jan 28 13:03:37 guys, can u pls tell why i vant install via appManager WebOS? Jan 28 13:03:47 cant* Jan 28 13:03:58 huh? Jan 28 13:04:02 neither via x_term Jan 28 13:04:51 afaik webOS is for palm pre, not Nokia N900 Jan 28 13:05:33 but I read some stuffs and i saw some videos on youtube where ppl use it for free and it works Jan 28 13:06:23 sorry, not my call. If somebody else knows an answer, please step up Jan 28 13:06:26 I'm out Jan 28 13:07:26 i tried to write sudo gainroot Jan 28 13:07:43 and it says": root shell enabled Jan 28 13:08:55 and then when I want write /home/use# apt-get install preenv Jan 28 13:09:07 it says the package couldn't be found Jan 28 13:09:11 why is that? Jan 28 13:09:40 I've downloaded rootsh Jan 28 13:09:43 .. Jan 28 13:09:48 cant understand anything Jan 28 13:11:14 it is about running games made for webOS, not webOS itself Jan 28 13:12:04 so when I want to install for example avatar, how can I do it? Jan 28 13:12:07 preenv is in extras-devel i guess Jan 28 13:12:10 it at all Jan 28 13:12:14 if* Jan 28 13:12:41 how can I create app icon/launcher? Jan 28 13:12:56 write a .desktop file Jan 28 13:13:01 cya, i'm afk Jan 28 13:13:24 i dont have much choice on games in AppMan so i want to install cool games on my phone Jan 28 13:13:24 indeed preenv is in extras-devel Jan 28 13:13:36 what does it mean ? Jan 28 13:13:42 t4nk383: extras-devel is down so use the mirrors to download the packages required Jan 28 13:13:47 ~mirrors Jan 28 13:13:47 [mirror] http://maemo-archive.wedrop.it/ http://maemo.merlin1991.at/apt-mirror/ http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1315143#post1315143 Jan 28 13:13:59 im with mirror right now Jan 28 13:14:19 from where i can download it? Jan 28 13:14:23 i just did a test and it downloaded fine so have you run apt-get update before trying it? Jan 28 13:15:06 it has dependencies so its better to download it via x-term instead of packages manually but if you still want the package only: http://skeiron.org/repo/repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/pool/fremantle/free/p/preenv/preenv_0.1.7_armel.deb Jan 28 13:15:06 nope, so i should write on the terminal apt-get update? Jan 28 13:15:17 yes Jan 28 13:16:25 it says could not open lock file Jan 28 13:16:35 what's that? Jan 28 13:17:13 close App Manager first and if still doesn't work then in terminal: rm -rf /var/lib/dpkg/lock Jan 28 13:18:17 connot remove it Jan 28 13:18:20 :( Jan 28 13:18:22 :( Jan 28 13:18:29 what can i do now? Jan 28 13:20:21 \o/ Jan 28 13:20:49 ... any advice? Jan 28 13:20:49 if it can't be removed it means some process is using it Jan 28 13:21:06 how can i stop it then Jan 28 13:21:43 kill pkgmgrd Jan 28 13:21:49 how? Jan 28 13:21:51 s/kill/killall/ Jan 28 13:21:52 thedead1440 meant: killall pkgmgrd Jan 28 13:22:16 in the termnal or? Jan 28 13:22:16 ~rtfm Jan 28 13:22:17 from memory, rtfm is Read The F*cking Manual (TM). It is a suggestion to do your homework before posting a question. Sometimes used as RTFM $SPECIFIC_MANUAL to refer to a specific source of information. See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RTFM Jan 28 14:35:37 warfare: woo! new sysop! Jan 28 14:36:35 Estel_: don't use kp51, use kp52 Jan 28 14:36:48 (re: charger module wtf) Jan 28 14:44:40 Estel_: kp52 from tmo is going to be released as soon as the autobuilder is up Jan 28 14:44:43 Pali: right? Jan 28 14:44:50 yes Jan 28 14:56:30 Whats wrong with kp51 ? Jan 28 15:13:18 MetalGearSolid, for bme replacement you need kp52 Jan 28 15:13:27 kp51 does not have needed patches Jan 28 15:15:38 ok Jan 28 15:42:09 MetalGearSolid: kp51r1 had some problems in the charger modules Jan 28 15:42:18 especially related to wrongly-reported values Jan 28 15:42:20 iirc Jan 28 15:54:29 * ShadowJK sighs at tracker Jan 28 15:54:40 please index my camera images kthx Jan 28 15:55:47 it only indexes what you dont want it to. Jan 28 15:56:04 yeah :/ Jan 28 15:58:41 ShadowJK: nobody ever cares about tracker's feelings :( Jan 28 16:14:33 hrmpf, i think i'm going to run ntpd as a daemon Jan 28 16:14:40 having to manually sync is annoying Jan 28 16:16:40 I wonder if opennntpd still polls 64s always Jan 28 16:16:45 uh Jan 28 16:16:47 openntp Jan 28 16:17:13 * ShadowJK tries to count the number of n Jan 28 16:17:47 ShadowJK: the openntp in the repos is *not* the real openntp Jan 28 16:18:02 oh? Jan 28 16:18:03 hell, busybox-power's ntpd is more openntpd than the one in the repos Jan 28 16:18:37 i think, at least Jan 28 16:18:55 hm, maybe it is, but it's just ancient? Jan 28 16:19:51 This is a port of OpenBSD's native ntpd to other Unix flavours adding autoconf support and the necessary compatibility layer. It is strongly influenced by, and based in part on, the OpenSSH Portable project. Jan 28 16:20:08 romaxa: ping Jan 28 16:20:34 openntpd does its own portable releases nowadays Jan 28 16:25:30 freemangordon: pong Jan 28 16:33:20 romaxa: I wrote you a couple of things earlier today, did you see them? also, right now my device plays h264 on youtube through DSP :), though to enable gstreamer support I had to fix a couple of things for gstreamer 0.10.25. Do you mind to commit those, or you want them reviewed first? I think they won't break newer gstreamer. Jan 28 16:36:22 freemangordon: I guess we should do most of the changes through pull request Jan 28 16:37:23 freemangordon: can you create pull request? Jan 28 16:39:35 romaxa: I guess I can , but I have cloned tmeshkova's repo, so it will take me a couple of hours to make a pull request for 10-liner patch Jan 28 16:39:52 I mean, to make my clone, to pull it, etc Jan 28 16:40:40 freemangordon: is your clone is just clone of upstream branch or you do have some your own fork ? Jan 28 16:41:54 I have local clone of upstream (which i've used for all commits so far) and my fork, but it is only on github, no local clone Jan 28 16:42:33 pulling it will take a good 3 hours :) Jan 28 16:46:23 romaxa: http://pastebin.com/mNBAtKVL Jan 28 16:51:47 freemangordon: ok, I see, so are these changes wont work with upstream gstreamer? or you not sure? Jan 28 16:53:14 freemangordon: it does not compile on harmattan Jan 28 16:54:29 freemangordon: could you create patch which does that with gstreamer version check ifdef? Jan 28 16:54:49 romaxa: ooh, it needs header change too, I didn't pastebin it Jan 28 16:55:06 I wasn't expecting you'll try to compile it Jan 28 16:56:34 romaxa: http://pastebin.com/ZaaE8X25 is the whole patch Jan 28 17:12:29 hey :) Just got a question about the maemo site.. Well, I noticed that maemo needs money do drive their website, but why are we not using an existing system now? I mean maybe debian or even ubuntu (launchpad.net) for hosting? Ok, the problem is the OS but why are we not making a CSSU update to one of these distributions? Would be much work, but we could save money at least this way.. Jan 28 17:14:10 Full update is more work than resources right now.. need to reverse engineer and reimplement/rewrite stuff Jan 28 17:16:49 freemangordon: I guess this patch need to be ifdefed with gstreamer version and submitted to bugzilla.mozilla.org Jan 28 17:21:11 romaxa: does it compile when the whole patch is used? Jan 28 17:22:20 BTW old and new code do one and the same thing, it is just the old code uses playbin2 functionality which does not present in older gst versions Jan 28 17:22:30 ShadowJK: hmm ok :/ Jan 28 17:22:59 is there any way to replace maemo on the emmc with ubuntu? just saw the sdcard method.. Jan 28 17:24:08 s/present/exist/ Jan 28 17:24:09 freemangordon meant: BTW old and new code do one and the same thing, it is just the old code uses playbin2 functionality which does not exist in older gst versions Jan 28 17:25:06 thopiekar, just get a sd card Jan 28 17:25:22 makes dualbooting much easier Jan 28 17:26:07 well, I would like to fully replace maemo with it.. but ok dualboot would be ok for the first time to see if everything is working.. Jan 28 17:27:18 very little works Jan 28 17:28:41 freemangordon: yes it is Jan 28 17:29:04 romaxa: also I found why GL performs so bad on n900. for some reason painting is done using SW rendering. Jan 28 17:29:27 for some reason GetIsAccelerated returns false Jan 28 17:29:51 if I hardcode true , your 3d cude renders with 25 fps Jan 28 17:29:56 *cube Jan 28 17:30:02 freemangordon: maybe because QGraphicsView does not create QGL Context by default Jan 28 17:30:08 exactly Jan 28 17:30:27 romaxa: QGLContext::currentContext() is NULL in QGraphicsMozView::QGraphicsMozView Jan 28 17:31:03 freemangordon: but QGLWidget should create one isn't? Jan 28 17:31:26 but it does not, no idea why Jan 28 17:31:27 freemangordon: which we do in main.cpp Jan 28 17:31:53 I guess one has to call MakeCurrent or something Jan 28 17:32:30 freemangordon: ah, I guess that one you can call in QmlApplicationViewer::paintEvent Jan 28 17:32:45 romaxa: I am not exactly QGL guru, don't expect me to answer. Jan 28 17:32:57 romaxa: but why it works on harmattan? Jan 28 17:33:03 or... does it? Jan 28 17:33:15 freemangordon: because harmattan HW accelerated for everything by default Jan 28 17:33:39 romaxa: but I am not using anything maemo 5 specific. Jan 28 17:33:59 freemangordon: anyway, gstreamer patch should go to upstream mozilla, at least bug filled and problem explained Jan 28 17:34:21 freemangordon: I guess it is about how harmattan initialize default windows,widgets Jan 28 17:34:31 yeah, makes sense Jan 28 17:35:03 ok, i'll see how to workaround that for fremantle. Jan 28 17:35:28 romaxa: is it me to raise a bug? for gstreamer that is Jan 28 17:35:53 * freemangordon hates raising bugs to upstream :) Jan 28 17:42:44 kerio: How much space is needed at least? Jan 28 17:43:02 I mean to install ubuntu on a sdcard.. Jan 28 18:00:49 why is ubuntu so named here lately, is there any project to make it run under n900? Jan 28 18:48:07 test Jan 28 18:49:17 Still no news on repos? Guess it's still behind the flacky fw.. Jan 28 18:51:37 yep Jan 28 18:56:31 Do you know why it takes so long to move it? Jan 28 18:57:08 Does anyone know what kind of Fw it is? a firewall should not crash because of heavy traffic ... Jan 28 18:58:07 Is it because of people having ordinary life too? :) Jan 28 18:58:13 Merlin: we can't read you, write louder Jan 28 18:58:26 also, it's not a physical hardware Jan 28 18:58:37 it's just an endian VM on the same xen-grid as the rest of the infra Jan 28 19:01:30 hm there's an imposer on this channel! Jan 28 19:01:45 haha Jan 28 19:06:18 sorry, i'm new to irc. does louder mean other color? ;) Jan 28 19:07:55 Merlin: oh god no Jan 28 19:08:05 Merlin: i was just poking fun at your "test" Jan 28 19:08:21 especially because irc doesn't send your messages back to you Jan 28 19:08:34 so the messages you send are instantly displayed locally Jan 28 19:09:13 kerio: thanks for help! Jan 28 19:09:30 anyway, welcome to #maemo Jan 28 19:12:27 ok. i'm a admin. if there is anythin i can help with let me know. i've donated already, but that's boring! Jan 28 19:13:35 DocScrutinizer05: another victim Jan 28 19:13:36 er Jan 28 19:13:37 volunteer Jan 28 19:14:20 donating is fun! Jan 28 19:14:36 lets make a donation party Jan 28 19:22:37 freemangordon, do you remember product code for your card Jan 28 19:23:02 oh wait nevermind, the other is fullsize SD Jan 28 20:33:59 does anyone know if there's a thumb-compiled version of openmediaplayer available somewhere? Jan 28 20:34:13 ~ding Jan 28 20:34:14 dong Jan 28 20:34:17 look in tmo thread Jan 28 20:34:20 I got mine from there Jan 28 20:36:34 tadzik, thanks a lot, found a link to a filehoster, is it the one? Jan 28 20:36:43 wirr: I think so, yes Jan 28 20:36:51 I can check the md5sum of the one I have Jan 28 20:36:56