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Feb 09 03:25:39 <Macer> nice
Feb 09 03:25:45 <Macer> putty in belle
Feb 09 03:25:51 <Macer> ssh... check heh
Feb 09 03:26:23 <Macer> hm
Feb 09 03:28:46 <Macer> wow
Feb 09 03:29:02 <Macer> belle vkb is actually tolerable
Feb 09 03:29:17 <Macer> good stuff
Feb 09 07:28:40 <DocScrutinizer05> ok, one full 24h day spent with futile discussion behind the scenes (minus the 2h meeting yesterday which - as I already mentioned - been one of the nicer events of my day)
Feb 09 07:28:52 * DocScrutinizer05 is pissed
Feb 09 08:11:35 <kerio> moo
Feb 09 08:20:56 <Gear> hey, if application catalogues arre disabled in hildon app man, are they available in fapman?
Feb 09 08:22:57 <kerio> Gear: fapman has its own catalogues
Feb 09 08:23:02 <kerio> also, don't use it
Feb 09 08:23:26 <Gear> why not
Feb 09 08:24:53 <Gear> ?
Feb 09 08:27:54 <Gear> er...? it does the 'faster' part really well, is my n900 going to explode from it or something?
Feb 09 08:30:58 <Gear> could you tell me why fapman shouldn't be used? also what's the deal with the repositories, i can't read the topic on here for somw reason
Feb 09 08:31:25 <kerio> various things aren't installed properly by it
Feb 09 08:31:30 <kerio> mostly the "weird" things
Feb 09 08:31:44 <kerio> also, it keeps its own cache and lists
Feb 09 08:32:26 <Gear> i mainly use it for the retarded little apps
Feb 09 08:32:30 <kerio> (and the "weird" things are exactly the things that, when not properly installed, can fuck up your system)
Feb 09 08:32:39 <kerio> just be careful, i suppose
Feb 09 08:34:08 <Gear> so far the warnings for important system stuff have been fine, it's slightly common sense
Feb 09 08:35:21 <Gear> if it's taking up a shitload of something i'll uninstall it, but what happens to all the things installed with fapman and not hildon app man?
Feb 09 08:35:49 <kerio> they're all installed in dpkg
Feb 09 08:39:01 <Gear> can you tell me what fapman is doing that's terrible?
Feb 09 08:41:10 <kerio> it botches various postinst scripts
Feb 09 08:43:21 <kerio> if you only install normal programs it shouldn't give any problems
Feb 09 08:44:15 <kerio> i guess that my main gripe with it is that it's neither as reliable as HAM, nor as quick, powerful, flexible and explicit as apt-get
Feb 09 08:44:45 <Gear> it's only the sort of apps that don't matter that i use it for
Feb 09 08:46:24 <Gear> i'm not quite a total linux nut, so i like the descriptions of the apps before getting them
Feb 09 08:47:50 <Gear> also what's the fastest fully equipped browser? i tried to install firefox before but it wasn't in ham
Feb 09 08:47:57 <kerio> microB
Feb 09 08:48:08 <kerio> aka "Web"
Feb 09 08:49:35 <Gear> how do i update flash?
Feb 09 08:51:18 <Gear> and also how do i get adblock working for microb
Feb 09 08:51:35 <Gear> it doesn't seem to work at all
Feb 09 08:58:15 <kerio> Gear: on TMO, the flash thread
Feb 09 08:58:36 <kerio> someone leaked the unreleased flash player 10
Feb 09 10:37:50 <Raimu> how do i flash
Feb 09 10:38:27 <kerio> ~flashing
Feb 09 10:38:28 <infobot> well, maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware
Feb 09 10:39:05 <Raimu> :)
Feb 09 10:39:12 <Raimu> how do i shot flash
Feb 09 12:39:52 <thedead1440> ~jrtools
Feb 09 12:39:52 <infobot> [jrtools] http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools
Feb 09 13:32:12 <croissant> hello! i was trying to install webos on my n900 ... i put it on the documents file and it showed like a deb file then i opened it with appManager and then it shows there but the problem is: app packages missing- libsdl-gles1.2-1, preenv.. etc.. can u pls tell me whats going wrong?
Feb 09 13:37:29 <croissant> please help me
Feb 09 13:38:39 <thedead1440> croissant: first would be to install those missing packages. Did you read the instructions to set-up preenv?
Feb 09 13:38:58 <croissant> no, i didnt
Feb 09 13:39:40 <croissant> from where i can read it?
Feb 09 13:40:08 <thedead1440> croissant: http://wiki.maemo.org/Preenv/FAQ
Feb 09 13:41:18 <croissant> it says couldnt fint preevn package
Feb 09 13:41:29 <croissant> find*
Feb 09 13:41:39 <thedead1440> you did a typo its preenv not preevn
Feb 09 13:43:06 <croissant> same
Feb 09 13:43:16 <croissant> it saays the same thing
Feb 09 13:45:22 <thedead1440> you need to have the extras-devel repo enabled; is it enabled on your device?
Feb 09 13:45:52 <croissant> i will check now.. it's on the app manager, right>
Feb 09 13:46:03 <thedead1440> under application catalogues yes
Feb 09 13:47:21 <croissant> i only have nokia app, nokia system software updates, ovi, maemo which is diabled and extras mirror 3
Feb 09 13:47:25 <croissant> nothing more
Feb 09 13:47:48 <thedead1440> so add extras-devel mirror 3 too or use merlin's extras-devel mirror
Feb 09 13:47:50 <thedead1440> ~mirror
Feb 09 13:47:51 <infobot> it has been said that mirror is http://maemo-archive.wedrop.it/ http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1315143#post1315143 http://maemo.merlin1991.at/apt-mirror/
Feb 09 13:48:14 <croissant> which one of those above?
Feb 09 13:48:24 <thedead1440> no don't use those
Feb 09 13:48:26 <thedead1440> use this: http://extras-devel.merlin1991.at/
Feb 09 13:48:41 <thedead1440> download and click the .install fine on your device and it'll be added to your device
Feb 09 13:49:04 <croissant> to download it on my pc?
Feb 09 13:49:36 <croissant> sorry, i cant understand you
Feb 09 13:49:41 <thedead1440> you download and click on pc and it'll be auto-added to your phone? so download it on your phone directly
Feb 09 13:50:16 <thedead1440> in short; type the following URL in the N900's browser: http://extras-devel.merlin1991.at/extras-devel-light.install
Feb 09 13:50:59 <croissant> ok
Feb 09 13:51:04 <croissant> one moment
Feb 09 13:52:11 <croissant> it's downloading now
Feb 09 13:52:23 <croissant> what should i do then?
Feb 09 13:52:49 <thedead1440> once its done "apt-get update" as root in terminal and then follow the wiki as per normal
Feb 09 13:53:31 <croissant> so in the term i write down root apt-get update?
Feb 09 13:53:51 <thedead1440> no you type root then press enter then type apt-get update then enter
Feb 09 13:54:02 <croissant> ok
Feb 09 13:54:10 <croissant> thanks a lot
Feb 09 13:54:14 <croissant> for the help
Feb 09 13:54:41 * kerio is still thoroughly baffled by the very existance of rootsh
Feb 09 13:54:51 <thedead1440> np; maybe reading up slightly on basic debian terminal commands would do you good
Feb 09 13:57:07 <croissant> i understand, but now it says that somethng is locked?
Feb 09 13:57:18 <kerio> croissant: wait for HAM to finish
Feb 09 13:57:36 <croissant> in the term?
Feb 09 13:57:48 <kerio> no, i mean
Feb 09 13:57:51 <kerio> Application Manager
Feb 09 13:57:52 <kerio> it's still running
Feb 09 13:58:26 <croissant> it stopped
Feb 09 13:58:37 <croissant> i mean it finifhed
Feb 09 13:58:45 <croissant> finished*
Feb 09 13:59:29 <kerio> croissant: welcome to the wonderful world of the stock maemo fremantle, where Application Manager takes 10 minutes for an update and doesn't fully close when you close the window
Feb 09 13:59:38 <kerio> wait a bit
Feb 09 14:00:30 <sixwheeledbeast> use top and wait for apt.worker to finish
Feb 09 14:04:32 <croissant> so i will start again
Feb 09 14:04:44 <croissant> because i closed it..
Feb 09 14:06:23 <sixwheeledbeast> croissant: start what again?
Feb 09 14:14:17 <croissant> @kerion
Feb 09 14:14:22 <croissant> @kerio
Feb 09 14:14:31 <kerio> yes?
Feb 09 14:15:09 <croissant> now it's updating but then what? i dont know what to do then?
Feb 09 14:15:34 <kerio> i don't know, follow the instructions to install preenv
Feb 09 14:16:25 <croissant> ok, but it says that something can be locked
Feb 09 14:16:30 <croissant> what does it mean
Feb 09 14:17:25 <croissant> it says you may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
Feb 09 14:18:02 <croissant> after the update some errors shown up
Feb 09 14:18:13 <kerio> they're not errors, they're warnings
Feb 09 14:18:15 <kerio> ignore them
Feb 09 14:18:35 <croissant> how?
Feb 09 14:19:46 <kerio> ...by not doing anything about them
Feb 09 14:20:38 <croissant> so i close the term and follow the instructions for installin preenv?
Feb 09 14:24:02 <croissant> and what is the pass for sudo gain root?
Feb 09 14:31:41 <croissant> just installed everything and now i dont know how tar-gnu
Feb 09 14:32:06 <croissant> how to find tar-gnu*
Feb 09 14:34:22 <croissant> @kerio can u pls tell me what to do abt finding tar-gnu?
Feb 09 14:37:58 <ShadowJK> "Photos" app refuses to show photos i can find with filemanager but not in tracker
Feb 09 14:38:07 * ShadowJK thinks it's time for tracker reset
Feb 09 15:42:31 <Sicelo> heh.. guess it's a disease, lol. i have exact same issue
Feb 09 15:44:29 <Sicelo> anyway, most people seem to be having a great user experience with Opera on the N900. for me Opera 11 is terrible. My N900 almost grinds to a halt when I use it
Feb 09 15:44:40 <kerio> i'm just too used to microb
Feb 09 15:44:43 <kerio> but it's fairly good
Feb 09 15:44:52 <kerio> hey ShadowJK 
Feb 09 15:44:53 <Sicelo> microb ftw 
Feb 09 15:44:56 <kerio> 1073741824 bytes (1,1 GB) copied, 54,7739 s, 19,6 MB/s
Feb 09 15:45:21 <kerio> writing zeros on the emmc
Feb 09 15:45:28 <kerio> well, "writing"
Feb 09 16:12:34 <ShadowJK> one step less to do :)
Feb 09 16:12:39 <ShadowJK> (possibly)
Feb 09 16:15:29 <ShadowJK> or you're writing through pc...
Feb 09 16:15:47 <ShadowJK> time (dd ; sync)
Feb 09 16:15:49 <ShadowJK> or something
Feb 09 16:41:21 <kerio> ShadowJK: this is on-device
Feb 09 16:41:46 <ShadowJK> cool
Feb 09 16:42:03 <kerio> i know, right
Feb 09 16:42:12 <kerio> it's obviously fake as hell
Feb 09 16:42:25 <kerio> but hey, offloading and delaying writes is also pretty good
Feb 09 16:42:38 <kerio> god bless you, ext4
Feb 09 16:43:00 <ShadowJK> Oh
Feb 09 16:43:12 <ShadowJK> You might be creating a file with holes in it
Feb 09 16:43:23 <ShadowJK> or in this case, one big hole
Feb 09 16:43:47 <kerio> nah, you have to explicitly tell dd to make a sparse file
Feb 09 16:43:48 <kerio> don't you?
Feb 09 16:44:23 <ShadowJK> maybe ext4 is being clever!
Feb 09 16:51:35 <ShadowJK> du -sh vs du -shx ?
Feb 09 16:52:02 <kerio> wait, x is "don't cross mountpoints"
Feb 09 16:52:37 <ShadowJK> oh
Feb 09 16:52:45 <ShadowJK> wrong one :s
Feb 09 16:54:25 <kerio> ShadowJK: proper sparse files don't "weigh" anything in the output of df, right?
Feb 09 16:54:31 <kerio> it seems that this is a real file
Feb 09 16:55:10 <ShadowJK> what dd are you using anyways
Feb 09 16:55:41 <kerio> gnu
Feb 09 16:58:18 <kerio> ShadowJK: do you reckon that orlov is already implicitly enabled in kernel-power's ext4?
Feb 09 16:58:23 <kerio> it's quite an old kernel
Feb 09 16:59:12 <lantizia> Does anyone know how the N900 and Raspberry Pi differ?  I'm wondering if the Flash plugin file from the N900 would work if copied over to a Pi or not.
Feb 09 16:59:17 * ShadowJK suspects the hash doesn't matter much
Feb 09 16:59:19 <lantizia> Since their both ARM
Feb 09 16:59:31 <ShadowJK> lantizia; different Arm, rPi is a generation older
Feb 09 16:59:55 <lantizia> ShadowJK, ah :( nevermind
Feb 09 17:01:14 <kerio> ShadowJK: for instance, there's no noauto_da_alloc
Feb 09 17:06:34 <kerio> guys, guys, guys
Feb 09 17:06:37 <kerio> traceroute 216.81.59.173
Feb 09 17:06:40 <kerio> seriously
Feb 09 17:14:04 * ShadowJK adjusts his ttl
Feb 09 17:14:45 <ShadowJK> this is some obnoxious waste of IPv4
Feb 09 17:21:21 <Estel_> kerio, out of curiosity, when you repeated this mantra about fapman butching some postinst script, do you have any real-life example of such package?
Feb 09 17:21:27 <Estel_> I would be glad to test
Feb 09 17:21:42 <Estel_> as it would mean that apt-get also fails with that postinst
Feb 09 17:22:02 <kerio> u-boot-flasher
Feb 09 17:22:05 <Estel_> (which would imply that postinst itself is fubar, and targetted only for HAM)
Feb 09 17:22:10 <Estel_> thanks
Feb 09 17:22:14 <Estel_> you mean actual one?
Feb 09 17:22:20 <Estel_> or some depreciated old version?
Feb 09 17:22:21 <kerio> the one from extras-devel
Feb 09 17:22:28 <Estel_> will check that
Feb 09 17:22:30 <kerio> at least, it was reported as such
Feb 09 17:22:39 <Estel_> by whom?
Feb 09 17:22:50 <kerio> hm, some guy here?
Feb 09 17:23:19 * Estel_ is just curious, as someone who use fapman even for every cssu update since ancient times when there was only one version and it wasn't "official" - without any ill effects
Feb 09 17:23:24 <Estel_> hm
Feb 09 17:24:02 <Estel_> so probability of it being FUD is quite high, do you realize that, when you repeat this "fails with some postinst" as it would be true fact?
Feb 09 17:24:19 <Estel_> not to mention stupid and plain dezinformative factoid you've made
Feb 09 17:24:42 * Estel_ is investigating postinst script of u-boot-flasher
Feb 09 17:30:19 <Estel_> nothing unusual about it
Feb 09 17:30:28 * Estel_ grabs spare N900
Feb 09 17:31:13 <Estel_> I'll prepare u-boot setup suited to test installation of this flasher package, will report back later. But I feel you 'outta be prepared to change your mantra, kerio ;)
Feb 09 17:31:39 <Estel_> unless you have other "known" examples of situation, where apt fails with properly written postinst scripts, and ham doesn't
Feb 09 17:57:37 <Estel_> well, no problem with flasher installed via apt-get or fapman
Feb 09 17:57:51 <Estel_> so whoever reported this, fucked up smth as in "user-error"
Feb 09 17:58:41 <Estel_> kerio ^^ so I recommend to just keep into saying that ham is preffered method by cssu team for their updated, and fapman may be less bulletproof for some users
Feb 09 17:59:15 <Estel_> instead of insisting that it's broken or solmething. After all, if we like it as application manager or not, someone spend own private time and devoted it for working on it
Feb 09 17:59:24 <Estel_> so criticism, yes - but FUD, big no!
Feb 09 17:59:33 * Estel_ waves
Feb 09 18:22:50 <Macer> wow
Feb 09 18:22:53 <Macer> e7
Feb 09 18:23:04 <Macer> is actually pretty nice
Feb 09 18:54:40 <kerio> Macer: >:c
Feb 09 18:55:01 <Macer> heh
Feb 09 18:55:09 <Macer> using..... putty now
Feb 09 18:55:20 <Macer> i cant find a us custom fw tho
Feb 09 18:55:34 <Macer> all of them use qwertz
Feb 09 19:04:26 <Macer> it kind of reminds me of maemo sans xterm
Feb 09 19:04:45 <Macer> the ui at least
Feb 09 19:09:31 <Macer> i mean cmon.. full phone encryption
Feb 09 19:09:42 <Macer> how can you not like that? ;)
Feb 09 19:59:38 <qwazix> just reporting that downloads.maemo.org remotely cut my connection twice when downloading xorg-xserver-dbg on scratchbox
Feb 09 20:01:08 <kerio> qwazix: you mean repository.
Feb 09 20:01:39 <kerio> ~pali
Feb 09 20:01:44 <infobot> it has been said that pali is http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pali/
Feb 09 20:02:25 <qwazix> kerio, yep
Feb 09 20:03:28 <kerio> warfare: downloads are still cut off on repo
Feb 09 20:15:53 <kerio> /* we will recalculate percentage capacity against design capacity reported by rx51_battery (if driver is available) */
Feb 09 20:15:57 * kerio shakes his fist at pali
Feb 09 20:38:54 <DocScrutinizer05> qwazix: how long till connection cut?
Feb 09 20:45:43 <qwazix> cut off at 65% of xserver-dbg and then again at 95
Feb 09 20:46:02 <qwazix> so not standard, (download rate about 100kb/s)
Feb 09 20:46:05 <DocScrutinizer05> i meant time as in "seconds after connecting"
Feb 09 20:46:36 <DocScrutinizer05> I'm trying to find out if our timeouts are still too tight
Feb 09 20:47:17 <qwazix> I don't know I just did "apt-get install maemo-sdk-debug" and it cut off only in xserver-debug (biggest package?)
Feb 09 20:47:21 <DocScrutinizer05> but nm, seems my expertise isn't sufficient for that task anyway. You'll have to wait for warfare
Feb 09 20:47:42 <qwazix> It's ok now I did it again and it continued from where it left off
Feb 09 20:47:56 <qwazix> I just reported it for you and warfare to know
Feb 09 20:49:47 <qwazix> Rough estimate 90-100 seconds (by using deb size/speed*0.65)
Feb 09 20:52:22 <DocScrutinizer05> ok. warfare ^^^^^^ please check
Feb 09 21:38:27 <kerio> Estel_: so, i figured out where the "fix" for the capacity *should* actually be - hald-addon-bme
Feb 09 21:38:45 <kerio> i can't quite figure out how it works though :s
Feb 09 21:53:18 <grummund> i'm confused about the hover arrow in xterm
Feb 09 21:54:38 <grummund> like i have 4 xterms open but only 2 have the hover arrow
Feb 09 22:00:06 <DocScrutinizer05> kerio: didn't I tell you exactly that weeks or months ago?
Feb 09 22:00:40 <kerio> DocScrutinizer05: i meant for the particular problem we have with the latest battery applet
Feb 09 22:00:53 <kerio> in general yes, hald-addon-bme should provide values that are as accurate as possible for all programs
Feb 09 22:01:13 <kerio> the modified battery applet also does its own thing sometimes, though
Feb 09 22:01:39 <DocScrutinizer05> yes, since nobody else is supposed to access bq27200 or bme directly
Feb 09 22:06:11 <DocScrutinizer05> and the only right way to implement bq27x00.ko would be to pair the sysfs 'upper' end with something exactly like i2cget interfacing to /dev/i2c on the 'lower' end
Feb 09 22:10:34 <grummund> it seems that just changing the font size in xterm will toggle the arrow
Feb 09 22:15:59 <DocScrutinizer05> I've never seen a hover arrow
Feb 09 22:16:14 <DocScrutinizer05> or do you mean the button?
Feb 09 22:17:02 <DocScrutinizer05> the button only appears when you got more lines than can display on screen. Otherwise scroll mode is meaningless, so automatically "hover mode" and no button
Feb 09 22:17:11 <DocScrutinizer05> iirc
Feb 09 22:18:34 <DocScrutinizer05> yeah, open new xterm, press enter. Watch cursor position and buttons 
Feb 09 22:19:35 <DocScrutinizer05> when cursor hits bottom line, next enter will make highlight button appear and display scroll
Feb 09 22:20:41 <DocScrutinizer05> of course when you change fontsize, your number-of-lines on screen also changes
Feb 09 22:21:20 <DocScrutinizer05> so eventually a display will suddenly have lines to scroll on larger font, while with smaller font all lines fit on screen
Feb 09 22:22:13 <DocScrutinizer05> once you got the idea, it's pretty straight forward to understand
Feb 09 22:28:41 <grummund> hey yeah that's right! :)
Feb 09 22:29:42 <grummund> so now i'm just a bit confused about what the arrow is used for and how.
Feb 09 22:30:05 <DocScrutinizer05> it switches between highlight mode and scroll mode
Feb 09 22:30:15 <grummund> ah got it
Feb 09 22:30:57 <grummund> so highlight mode is on by default if the arrow isn't shown
Feb 09 22:31:03 <DocScrutinizer05> yes
Feb 09 22:32:34 <grummund> understood, yay :D
Feb 09 22:32:41 <DocScrutinizer05> \o/
Feb 09 22:34:18 <kerio> i think that it also gives you the choice if there's a program that understands mouse input
Feb 09 22:34:41 <kerio> but i'm not sure if it's just because those usually fill up the whole terminal
Feb 09 22:38:04 <DocScrutinizer05> like top?
Feb 09 22:38:14 <DocScrutinizer05> top doesn't make a difference here
Feb 09 22:38:26 <DocScrutinizer05> clear also makes no difference
Feb 09 22:38:52 <DocScrutinizer05> reset makes any scrollbuffer disappear and so also the button
Feb 09 22:39:17 <DocScrutinizer05> ooh, mouse input
Feb 09 22:40:24 <DocScrutinizer05> yeah, mc makes button vanish
Feb 09 22:41:14 <DocScrutinizer05> mc toggles some xterm mode
Feb 09 22:41:32 <DocScrutinizer05> also on your desktop xterm
Feb 09 22:42:11 <DocScrutinizer05> on desktop your scrollbar disappears or fills 100%
Feb 09 22:42:57 <DocScrutinizer05> no scrolling allowed, no scrollbar nor a scrollmode-button on N900
Feb 09 22:46:16 <kerio> terminals are a crapshoot anyway
Feb 09 22:51:51 * DocScrutinizer05 suspects mouse mode and application vs text mode
Feb 09 22:53:22 <DocScrutinizer05> halebop:/etc # man xterm|wc -l
Feb 09 22:53:24 <DocScrutinizer05> 5109
Feb 09 22:53:48 <DocScrutinizer05> halebop:/etc # man xterm|grep -c mode
Feb 09 22:53:49 <DocScrutinizer05> 88
Feb 09 22:54:48 <kerio> hehe
Feb 09 23:06:02 <Snafu777> Getting 302 errors with the repo, anyone else?
Feb 09 23:08:02 <DocScrutinizer05> *sigh*
Feb 09 23:08:20 <DocScrutinizer05> could anybody create a decent factoid answering this?
Feb 09 23:08:51 <Snafu777> Hrm?
Feb 09 23:09:12 <DocScrutinizer05> it's #1 in recent FAQ
Feb 09 23:09:34 <DocScrutinizer05> just we have no fritten FAQ
Feb 09 23:09:40 <Snafu777> Oh, heh, just figure I'd ask :)
Feb 09 23:09:40 <DocScrutinizer05> written*
Feb 09 23:09:48 <Snafu777> So what's up?
Feb 09 23:09:55 <DocScrutinizer05> hashsum error?
Feb 09 23:10:04 <Snafu777> Yep
Feb 09 23:10:10 <Snafu777> And temp move of respire
Feb 09 23:10:13 <Snafu777> Resource
Feb 09 23:10:18 <DocScrutinizer05> o.O
Feb 09 23:11:38 <DocScrutinizer05> hashsum errors are in extras-devel (and mirrors, except merlin's mirror) and are introduced by a yet-to-spot age old bug in builder
Feb 09 23:11:57 <Snafu777> So can I trust the debs I was able to grab?  If so, how would I grab the. Proper md5 for diff comparisons?
Feb 09 23:12:36 <DocScrutinizer05> yes. And dunno
Feb 09 23:12:47 <Snafu777> K
Feb 09 23:12:52 <Snafu777> Thanks for the info Doc
Feb 09 23:12:54 <Snafu777> U da man
Feb 09 23:13:23 <DocScrutinizer05> use merlin's mirror, it's supposed to be hashsum-bug free
Feb 09 23:13:27 <DocScrutinizer05> ~mirrors
Feb 09 23:13:27 <infobot> i guess mirror is http://maemo-archive.wedrop.it/ http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1315143#post1315143 http://maemo.merlin1991.at/apt-mirror/
Feb 09 23:13:46 <kerio> not that one
Feb 09 23:13:59 <kerio> extras-devel.merlin1991.at
Feb 09 23:15:02 <DocScrutinizer05> ~#maemo mirrors is also extras-devel.merlin1991.at - for fighting hashsum error
Feb 09 23:15:45 <DocScrutinizer05> ~fu!
Feb 09 23:15:45 <infobot> FFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-
Feb 09 23:16:00 <DocScrutinizer05> ~+#maemo mirrors is also extras-devel.merlin1991.at - for fighting hashsum error
Feb 09 23:16:01 <infobot> at http://telia.dl.sourceforge.net/mirrors/familiar or at ftp://ftp.easynet.be/familiar/releases/ is a dangling redirection.
Feb 09 23:16:23 <DocScrutinizer05> ~literal mirrors
Feb 09 23:16:24 <infobot> "#maemo mirrors" is "<reply>see mirror"
Feb 09 23:16:29 <DocScrutinizer05> ~literal mirror
Feb 09 23:16:29 <infobot> "#maemo mirror" is "http://maemo-archive.wedrop.it/ http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1315143#post1315143 http://maemo.merlin1991.at/apt-mirror/"
Feb 09 23:16:56 <DocScrutinizer05> I don't get it :-S
Feb 09 23:17:44 <DocScrutinizer05> ~#maemo mirror is also extras-devel.merlin1991.at - for fighting hashsum error
Feb 09 23:17:45 <infobot> okay, DocScrutinizer05
Feb 09 23:17:52 <DocScrutinizer05> ~mirror
Feb 09 23:17:52 <infobot> methinks mirror is http://maemo-archive.wedrop.it/ http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1315143#post1315143 http://maemo.merlin1991.at/apt-mirror/, or extras-devel.merlin1991.at - for fighting hashsum error
Feb 09 23:17:59 <DocScrutinizer05> ~mirrors
Feb 09 23:18:00 <infobot> rumour has it, mirror is http://maemo-archive.wedrop.it/ http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1315143#post1315143 http://maemo.merlin1991.at/apt-mirror/, or extras-devel.merlin1991.at - for fighting hashsum error
Feb 09 23:19:04 <DocScrutinizer05> ~listvalues a dangling redirection
Feb 09 23:19:06 <infobot> Factoid search of 'a dangling redirection' by value returned no results.
Feb 09 23:19:54 <DocScrutinizer05> ~listvalues http://telia.dl.sourceforge.net/mirrors/familiar
Feb 09 23:19:56 <infobot> Factoid search of 'http://telia.dl.sourceforge.net/mirrors/familiar' by value (2): mirror ;; familiar mirror.
Feb 09 23:20:15 <DocScrutinizer05> ~_default mirror
Feb 09 23:20:50 <DocScrutinizer05> ~+status
Feb 09 23:20:50 <infobot> Since Tue Feb  5 16:30:17 2013, there have been 8 modifications, 190 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 92 commands.  I have been awake for 4d 6h 50m 33s this session, and currently reference 118920 factoids.  I'm using about 23388 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 1237.63/23.8 child 0/0
Feb 09 23:21:04 <DocScrutinizer05> MEH
Feb 09 23:22:24 <merlin1991> done highlighting me?
Feb 09 23:22:57 <kerio> merlin1991: your fault for being egocentrical with your domain
Feb 09 23:23:05 <DocScrutinizer05> hahaha
Feb 09 23:23:11 <merlin1991> bah
Feb 09 23:23:13 <merlin1991> :D
Feb 10 00:37:09 <warfare> qwazix: I'll take a look at stopping downloads.
Feb 10 00:47:23 <warfare> qwazix: I changed some parameters, can you monitor the issue for me? (send me an email, if anything else fails) 
Feb 10 01:15:03 <qwazix> warfare, thanks I'll check on it tomorrow and ping you here, please query me your email please if possible too
Feb 10 02:19:46 <teotwaki> man
Feb 10 02:19:54 <teotwaki> sifting through 2TB worth of data
Feb 10 02:19:58 <teotwaki> using Perl :)
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