**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Feb 28 02:59:58 2013 Feb 28 06:30:53 Any idea why some N900s only support GPRS? Feb 28 06:30:57 ( and others 3G ) Feb 28 06:31:37 didnt know that Feb 28 06:31:50 mines started needing a reboot every day or so, otherwise its gprs/3g fails Feb 28 06:32:16 orlok: I've owned 7, two of them have been unable to engage 3G Feb 28 06:32:20 Odd. Feb 28 06:32:48 theres nothng that compares to it now, is there? Feb 28 06:33:02 other than an N9 with bluetooth keyboard? Feb 28 06:33:42 I haven't tried the N9 Feb 28 06:34:02 but ja, it's in its own league for certain things. I like having a portable Linux box. Feb 28 06:34:38 mines starting to have the USB issue though Feb 28 06:38:22 orlok: I've lost two to that Feb 28 06:38:41 Well, "lost", any corner cell shop will repair and reinforce it for ?20 Feb 28 06:43:18 hm? never heard of an n900 with gprs only Feb 28 06:57:01 hmm... wonder if there are any insured shops in the US that would reinforce the microusb for $20... Feb 28 07:04:10 ... Hildon input method is racking up 100 percent cpu Feb 28 07:04:23 how do I mend this? Feb 28 07:04:57 nevermind Feb 28 07:05:11 a killall -9 seemed to rectify it... Feb 28 07:06:44 also, my /home/user/MyDocs directory stopped automounting after booting Feb 28 07:06:49 how do I fix this? Feb 28 07:17:58 honest answer? full reflash Feb 28 07:19:20 or try connecting it to a PC in mass storage mode, and check the filesystem there, maybe it's fsck'able Feb 28 07:19:45 anything but a full reflash... Feb 28 07:20:11 having to redownload installed apps is not going to be kind on my connection and time. Feb 28 07:20:25 I'll try to do the second method later. Feb 28 07:22:05 though it's not automounted, can you manual mount? Feb 28 07:23:58 yes Feb 28 07:24:07 so what is puzzling me is Feb 28 07:24:18 why it doesn't mount itself on boot Feb 28 07:24:29 i mean, after booting Feb 28 07:24:35 that's strange Feb 28 07:24:52 indeed. Feb 28 07:24:57 reflash might not be a bad answer after all Feb 28 07:25:04 funnily enough Feb 28 07:25:28 pali's bootloader seems to be able to read the boot menu entries Feb 28 07:25:37 though no full reflash then Feb 28 07:26:32 are you sure you haven't messed around with mixing up cssu and normal stuff, or tweaked initscripts, or sth? Feb 28 07:26:59 nope Feb 28 07:27:07 nothing like that so far Feb 28 07:27:21 what does syslog show? Feb 28 07:27:34 how do I check that? Feb 28 07:27:36 dmesg? Feb 28 07:28:10 install klogd syslogd, then less /var/log/messages Feb 28 07:28:22 or dmesg though that's a PITA Feb 28 07:28:48 might do for you though Feb 28 07:30:05 Failed to fetch http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/pool/fremantle/free/l/less/less_429-2maemo2_armel.deb Hash Sum mismatch Feb 28 07:30:22 I culd only figure device thinks it is in mass storage mode and thus umounts MyDocs to export it Feb 28 07:31:50 hmm Feb 28 07:32:06 wget and dpkg -i ? Feb 28 07:32:58 somebody recently tweaked apt so it doesn't check hashsums anymore Feb 28 07:33:51 some cmd line or config option, plus iirc renaming a file where the hashsums are Feb 28 07:34:19 I already had a whole syslog copied though Feb 28 07:34:55 doesn't seem to be long other than repeated sliding keyboard messages Feb 28 07:35:02 and boot stuff. Feb 28 07:37:24 DocScrutinizer05: http://pastebin.com/BuVB7vXa Feb 28 07:37:46 no idea. Just out of curiosity: how do you notice it doesn't mount? Feb 28 07:38:41 Missing entries in conky and file manager. Feb 28 07:41:08 hmmmm Feb 28 07:41:24 I'd suggest you use `mount` to see what's up Feb 28 07:41:39 Does the syslog contain anything suspicious? Feb 28 07:41:50 err, not really Feb 28 07:42:06 I have MyDocs mounted right now Feb 28 07:42:37 or maybe it has: Feb 28 07:42:38 Feb 28 15:22:15 Nokia-N900 kernel: [ 155.454803] g_file_storage gadget: File-backed Storage Gadget, version: 7 August 2007 Feb 28 07:42:40 Feb 28 15:22:15 Nokia-N900 kernel: [ 155.454895] g_file_storage gadget: Number of LUNs=2 Number of buffers=16 Feb 28 07:42:52 any suggestions on where to order a replacement rtc battery? 3eur, but no solder fins: http://www.ebay.de/itm/121006572419 , 7eur: http://www.ebay.de/itm/110894521581 Feb 28 07:43:00 dunno if that's normal during boot, looks like mass storage enabled Feb 28 07:43:16 as in Feb 28 07:43:30 My N900 enabled mass storage mode during boot Feb 28 07:43:39 and forgot to remount MyDocs? Feb 28 07:44:00 plausible fairy tale Feb 28 07:44:35 what happens if you actually enable and unplug MSM? Feb 28 07:51:14 I'll try that later. Feb 28 08:00:49 i am trying to install cssu-thumb, but it is prompting me to backup Feb 28 08:01:10 and i don't need to backup (since I have just newly flashed) Feb 28 08:01:17 can i skip this? Feb 28 08:03:46 if you need to ask this, you're probably not ready for cssu-thumb. Why not try cssu-testing first? Feb 28 08:04:25 ~cssu Feb 28 08:04:25 hmm... cssu is http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU Feb 28 08:09:11 ~powerkernel Feb 28 08:09:32 infobot: ~powerkernel Feb 28 08:12:40 DocScrutinizer05: Okay here's something else: While MyDocs is mounted on the N900, connecting to a computer and turning on MSM doesn't automatically dismount it Feb 28 08:13:31 how did you know? Feb 28 08:14:20 ~pk Feb 28 08:14:21 An Open-Source POSIX Threads embedded real-time kernel. URL: http://www.cornfed.com/pk/ Feb 28 08:14:29 ~kp Feb 28 08:14:30 rumour has it, kp is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=85665 Feb 28 08:15:15 DocScrutinizer05: Internal storage does not show up in my OS's mounted devices list, and my N900 still shows my internal storage Feb 28 08:15:19 as connected to itself Feb 28 08:16:00 I'll try manually dismounting it and enable MSM Feb 28 08:18:48 Nope, nothing happens. Feb 28 08:59:39 This is getting really weird. Feb 28 09:00:06 Cannot fsck it, refuses to be mounted in MSM mode Feb 28 09:00:50 doesn't show itself in file manager after booting, etc. Feb 28 09:01:22 FlameReaper: what does blkid report? Feb 28 09:01:40 kerio: on the N900 or my laptop? Feb 28 09:01:45 n900 Feb 28 09:03:06 /dev/mmcblk0p1: LABEL="Nokia N900" UUID="4BB1-E781" TYPE="vfat" Feb 28 09:03:19 kerio: ^ Feb 28 09:03:34 can you mount it manually? Feb 28 09:03:54 kerio: mount it on the N900? Feb 28 09:04:11 yeah Feb 28 09:04:13 I mean, the interal storage on the n900? If that then yes. Feb 28 09:04:22 I can mount and dismount it manually. Feb 28 09:04:33 But 1. It doesn't show up after boot Feb 28 09:04:41 weird Feb 28 09:04:55 do you have any modifications to rcS-late? Feb 28 09:04:55 2. refuses to be mounted on mass storage mode, always a message "Device storage in use." Feb 28 09:05:01 rcS-late? Feb 28 09:05:17 /etc/event.d/rcS-late Feb 28 09:05:29 esp. the part that generates /etc/fstab Feb 28 09:09:35 kerio: http://pastebin.com/bXezt538 Feb 28 09:24:42 All right, it's fixed now Feb 28 09:24:48 fsck did the job. Feb 28 09:25:50 Apparently it could've been one of the safe removal mess Feb 28 09:25:58 that I've gotten the N900 a few times in Feb 28 09:30:32 ~optify Feb 28 09:30:42 ~opt Feb 28 09:30:42 [opt] available from http://nis-www.lanl.gov/~jt/Software Feb 28 09:31:01 ~optification Feb 28 09:31:02 optification is a inventive duct tape workaround to reclaim space in fs root, done due to the fact the systeminit *and* partitioning is FUBAR, http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Developer_Guide/Packaging,_Deploying_and_Distributing/Installing_under_opt_and_MyDocs, or ""OMG - I wish they looked into FHS and moved /usr to eMMC"", http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#PURPOSE2 bullet1,2 and fhs-2.3.html#PURPOSE16 dot3" Feb 28 10:09:53 Pali: I saw you send secure PPA API to upstream, does it compile with newer kernels? Feb 28 10:10:02 BTW thanks :) Feb 28 10:11:38 yes it working with 3.8-rc3 Feb 28 10:11:39 I added ".arch_extension sec" to asm code, because "smc #1" cannot be compiled Feb 28 10:11:48 freemangordon, questions from linux maintainers are up to you :-) Feb 28 10:11:55 Pali: sure Feb 28 10:11:57 :) Feb 28 10:12:34 yep, i saw that addition, I was surprised that cache API didn't changed Feb 28 10:12:41 *change Feb 28 11:06:36 DocScrutinizer05, or anyone who have contact with TMO moderators - solution from here: Feb 28 11:06:47 http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1139564&postcount=16 Feb 28 11:06:54 woo, xchat on maemo rocks - miss smuxi though Feb 28 11:06:54 ...or it's improved version from here: Feb 28 11:07:08 http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1243160&postcount=20 Feb 28 11:07:23 ...seems to been working for dozen of people already Feb 28 11:07:40 ...for fixing infamous "all cellular functions disabled" hardware failure Feb 28 11:07:50 if you ask me, that thread should be split from: Feb 28 11:08:04 is it safe to change my default shell to bash though? Feb 28 11:08:07 http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1139564&postcount=16 Feb 28 11:08:07 ...and made "sticky" Feb 28 11:08:21 ... just like usb repair one Feb 28 11:08:52 I found it by accident, and solution to 2nd most serious hardware problem is priceless Feb 28 11:09:07 pity that no one decided to highlight it yet ;) Feb 28 11:09:18 GeneralAntilles, it may be worth mentioning on MWKN, too Feb 28 11:09:21 Why not use "Report Post" functionality and give your suggestion? That's the fastest way for the mod of the sub-forum to do the necessary Feb 28 11:09:31 thankfully mine is okay (not sim in it, usb works) Feb 28 11:09:36 thedead1440, did it already, week ago Feb 28 11:09:36 ;) Feb 28 11:09:52 seems like things reported by *me* are redirected to /dev/null Feb 28 11:10:00 or maybe all reports? Feb 28 11:10:29 nah they go sub-forum's moderator(s); even some of my reports are not affected on so its definitely not /dev/null Feb 28 11:10:32 chem|st, ^ about splitting thread and making it sticky Feb 28 11:10:54 hmm, bad soldering? Feb 28 11:10:57 and not all reports either as those I get are usually acted on ;) Feb 28 11:11:22 anyway, from experience, I've noticed that irc pings to moderators are more effective than in-forum functionality, sadly Feb 28 11:11:25 jaska, yea Feb 28 11:11:29 love the headphonrs indicator Feb 28 11:11:44 hmm, ouch. how widespread is it Feb 28 11:11:46 n800 and android didnt do thst Feb 28 11:11:57 jaska, it's 2nd most common (which, thankfully, mean that quite rare) hardware failure, after usb Feb 28 11:12:12 glad that someone found a way to fix it reliably, even if it's semi-fix Feb 28 11:12:29 true.. havent had either issue myself (knocking wood) Feb 28 11:12:33 hmm this explains it; the mod for N900 sub-forum is Xomm whose Last Activity: 10-29-12 02:34 AM Feb 28 11:12:43 but my microusb connectors on cables are "de-clawed" Feb 28 11:12:58 while it's not a fix in literal meaning, this workaround result in months of no sim-error for people using it, so I think it's still worth mentioning. "Real" fix would be reflow Feb 28 11:13:14 wow my n900 works great with the earbuds from my n800 Feb 28 11:13:19 great sound Feb 28 11:13:25 jaska, I don't de-claw it due to need for reliable usb connection (data), but I solder down ports Feb 28 11:14:01 ah, mine seem to work reliably enough even when de-clawed Feb 28 11:14:47 i gave up soldering years before surface mount components became the norm so id have to go bug someone local who can Feb 28 11:15:23 N800 and N810 sound has high noise floor.. the sound amp in n900 is much better Feb 28 11:15:43 though N810 speakers are superior :) Feb 28 11:16:34 s/superior/bigger/ Feb 28 11:16:55 my n800 had good phne audio but meh speakers Feb 28 11:17:06 tinny but loud and roomfilling Feb 28 11:17:31 jaska; I have had 3 N900s fail that way. musb ports fine though, even without declawing. Feb 28 11:18:02 ShadowJK: at some point, you have to accept that N900s just don't like you Feb 28 11:18:33 "filthy android scum" said the persnickety N900 Feb 28 11:18:34 ShadowJK, spring solution seems to work suprisingly reliably Feb 28 11:19:06 Estel_; will maybe try it one day I get more spare time and a desk empty enough to fit an N900 Feb 28 11:19:09 :) Feb 28 11:19:52 last one still works with silk gloves approach, the other one doesn't. first one went to nokia care Feb 28 11:20:43 my n900 is also really smaller than my n800 Feb 28 11:21:03 yeah Feb 28 11:21:15 its a phone for ants Feb 28 11:21:34 although my n800 hsd a bump making it hard to hold Feb 28 11:21:34 Ampharos: buy an otterbox Feb 28 11:21:38 * ShadowJK has N800, N810, 2 modem-dead N900, 2 working N900 Feb 28 11:22:02 i have n800 and n900 Feb 28 11:22:23 n810 and n900, both work Feb 28 11:22:28 They made the stylus thin in N810, and removed the hump Feb 28 11:22:43 both work but the n800 is getting flaky Feb 28 11:22:50 lots of crashes Feb 28 11:22:57 Ampharos: chat is awesome, especially with the right key map Feb 28 11:23:20 kb is awesome on this Feb 28 11:23:32 i guess the n810 battery might be a bit goner.. its mostly on a nightstand for reading and rarely leaves the charger Feb 28 11:23:33 n800 sucked at this Feb 28 11:23:49 on modem fix. Feb 28 11:23:51 usuually the irc topic changed before i could write a message Feb 28 11:24:03 that is utterly retarded. Feb 28 11:24:09 good work! Feb 28 11:24:19 SpeedEvil: ? Feb 28 11:24:22 i bought a new batt and sd card for the n800 Feb 28 11:24:38 http://www.jabawok.net/?p=14 Feb 28 11:24:48 referring to the above discussion Feb 28 11:24:51 works great, it has insane wifi range that the n900 doeant get Feb 28 11:24:58 why is it retarded? Feb 28 11:25:25 because it's an utterly broken solution, Feb 28 11:25:40 hammer fixes everything Feb 28 11:25:50 hm, I found my N900 has better range than N810.. never tested N800 range as much Feb 28 11:25:54 like repairing a trouser button by tying a bit of string round your waist Feb 28 11:26:00 must be all the metal in n810 Feb 28 11:26:05 n800 gets great range Feb 28 11:26:16 its also metal covered too Feb 28 11:26:26 SpeedEvil: otoh, the proper solution requires a reflow station Feb 28 11:26:38 kerio: yeah Feb 28 11:26:42 my city has free wifi around, n800 has no prpbs with them Feb 28 11:27:22 vert good signal Feb 28 11:27:59 wow my battery on the n900 lasts pretty long Feb 28 11:28:29 Both N800 and N810 batteries degrade pretty fast Feb 28 11:28:37 i left it at low green ladt night, wokr up still fine Feb 28 11:28:46 my n800 i bought a battery Feb 28 11:28:47 Ampharos: have you got a 1200 or a 1400 one? Feb 28 11:28:59 lasts a week in sleep the 800 Feb 28 11:29:00 in active daily use I got new batts for them every year Feb 28 11:29:10 still need to bench 900 Feb 28 11:29:49 for the n900 i have 3 spares Feb 28 11:30:20 2 were ripped out of a nokia c3, one was a spare Feb 28 11:30:40 if my usb died ill use the c3s as a battery charger Feb 28 11:31:01 series 40 fonally gets a use Feb 28 11:34:14 imma leave Feb 28 11:46:20 Pali: hmm, kernel-power "fixes" /etc/modprobe.d/bridgedriver Feb 28 11:46:33 the settings, i think Feb 28 11:46:36 yes Feb 28 11:46:44 is the fix compatible with 720p support? Feb 28 11:46:48 because kernel-power has updated dsp bridge support Feb 28 11:47:02 it is for compatiility with 720p codecs Feb 28 11:47:24 the bridgedriver config from harmattan has "options bridgedriver shm_size=0x500000 base_img=/lib/dsp/baseimage.dof" Feb 28 11:50:43 ~kp Feb 28 11:50:43 hmm... kp is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=85665 Feb 28 11:58:49 Pali: blindly updating a config file like this, when installing modules? Feb 28 12:04:46 kerio, spring solution > hammer solution, for gsm modem failure Feb 28 12:05:10 and springs are really workaround, while hammer is hammering into the mist Feb 28 12:05:19 excuse the pun Feb 28 12:06:01 fix (as opposed to workaround) would require reflow indeed, but springs workaround seems to work reliably for everyone using it **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Feb 28 12:27:15 2013 Feb 28 12:35:19 hm, can someone paste the output of `dpkg -S /etc/event.d/dsp` please? Feb 28 12:44:44 anyone? Feb 28 12:45:18 Estel_: just because you like to have things some way does not mean that the mod of this subforum agrees... in this case the mod was not online for a while, I will discuss the issue with staff... for your thread... no need to do anything about it - issues have different causes and different solutions - my cellmo issue does not come from loose ICs for example but give the same errors... Feb 28 12:46:30 ask the OP to include the collected causes+solutions in the starting-post Feb 28 12:50:46 kerio: [1|root@N900|~]dpkg -S /etc/event.d/dsp Feb 28 12:50:47 dpkg: /etc/event.d/dsp not found. Feb 28 12:50:53 but i've the file: Feb 28 12:50:54 fucking hell Feb 28 12:50:55 ls -al /etc/event.d/dsp Feb 28 12:50:56 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 219 Feb 16 2010 /etc/event.d/dsp Feb 28 12:52:04 thedead1440: do you have, by any chance, the 720p packages installed? Feb 28 12:52:53 kerio: yup i think i've them but i don't remember as its been so long since i last flashed my device :D Feb 28 12:53:24 ah fucking hell i know what's up Feb 28 12:54:04 thedead1440: dpkg -S /etc/event.replace.d/dsp Feb 28 12:54:33 dpkg -S /etc/event.replace.d/dsp Feb 28 12:54:35 omap3430-dsp-baseimage-ti: /etc/event.replace.d/dsp Feb 28 12:54:47 tyvm Feb 28 12:54:55 np Feb 28 12:55:11 shame, omap3-dsp-baseimage-ti doesn't have that file Feb 28 12:56:14 ? isn't that package by fmg Feb 28 12:56:21 not quite Feb 28 12:56:33 Maintainer: Ivaylo Dimitrov Feb 28 12:57:56 thedead1440: it's a weird thing Feb 28 12:58:08 the actual packages are the ones from harmattan for the n950 Feb 28 12:58:22 fmg's fake packages download the real packages and unpack them Feb 28 12:58:45 Hey all. Did you guys sort out the DoS nonsense? Feb 28 12:58:50 ah so then what's the issue? Feb 28 12:59:06 thedead1440: it's a massive kludge, i just installed the real packages Feb 28 12:59:15 but those have a bunch of conflicts with the standard packages Feb 28 12:59:15 ouch Feb 28 12:59:33 which aren't used anyway, once you install the updated libraries and codecs Feb 28 13:00:03 the only issue is that the real omap3-dsp-baseimage-ti doesn't have /etc/event.d/dsp, so i must be careful with it Feb 28 13:00:13 ah Feb 28 13:05:17 thedead1440: be thankful that I did not script replies getting mod removed by default... Feb 28 13:05:33 I know you are dedicated! Feb 28 13:05:58 it is just much easier to email all mods instead of 5 specific Feb 28 13:06:17 chem|st: haha :D Feb 28 13:06:23 you coverd some of the longterm missing guys already Feb 28 13:06:33 I hate AWOL Feb 28 13:07:25 true especially N900 has only one mod and he's AWOL... Feb 28 13:50:04 Any have experience with an N900 only behaving in a 2[.5]G manner? Feb 28 13:52:19 is there a way to switch on the camera's flash (using the console or w/e) without it blocking access to the camera for other apps? Feb 28 13:59:02 teilzeitstudent, I think no Feb 28 14:03:31 Pali, hmm thanks Feb 28 14:08:43 heh, automatic internet connection via cellular Feb 28 14:08:46 setting was not migrated with backupmenu :) Feb 28 14:17:54 you're lying Feb 28 14:45:05 narcos: top - 14:43:14 up 34 days, 20:40, 2 users, load average: 0.84, 0.58, 0.54 Feb 28 14:55:58 infobot: wb Feb 28 14:55:59 thx Feb 28 16:16:40 maybe because imei changed Feb 28 16:34:34 quite possible, those rtcom UIDs are very strange and scary Feb 28 16:36:08 http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=68063 Feb 28 16:36:18 gconftool-2 -R /system/osso/connectivity/ Feb 28 16:37:51 gconftool-2 -R /system/osso/connectivity eve Feb 28 16:38:00 stuff like /system/osso/connectivity/IAP/1768c3dc-70d1-45ce-9be1-4a5a7b811143: Feb 28 16:40:02 or /system/osso/connectivity/IAP/E-Plus@32@Internet Feb 28 16:41:29 gconftool-2 -R /system/osso/connectivity|less "+/type = GPRS" Feb 28 18:23:34 hi ppl! i'm happy n900 user and i have a question. i know about repositories lockdown, are they came back? or please point me to resent list of working repositories. Please! Feb 28 18:24:46 or maybe original repositories are working for now? Feb 28 18:26:39 dump_01 read the channel topic Feb 28 18:27:11 oh thanks! my bad Feb 28 18:28:39 no problem :) Feb 28 18:28:59 trx: how to restore original sources.list? Feb 28 18:29:28 i think my own is full of garbage Feb 28 18:33:59 dump_01: use HAM and put everything back as it was. Feb 28 18:34:39 sixwheeledbeast: standart application manager? Feb 28 18:35:29 dump_01: yes, the recommended method for all application management Feb 28 18:40:18 if you're asking if you can use a different tool, you shouldn't use a different tool Feb 28 19:09:19 HAM is no stand art Feb 28 19:10:00 mmm ham *drowls* Feb 28 19:10:10 ham is the standard tool for managing repositories Feb 28 19:10:53 ham is for xmas! Feb 28 19:11:51 ham is the reason for the season! Feb 28 19:12:19 indeed Feb 28 19:15:23 because three months is about how much it takes for HAM to do a repo update if you have extras-devel enabled Feb 28 19:28:31 don't have devel enabled all the time, or use devel-light Feb 28 19:51:03 or just don't use HAM Feb 28 20:09:24 the latter is most likely case :P Feb 28 20:10:13 BTW, N900 is worth more than we expected, today two guys tried to "convince" me to give it to them, together with my wallet and other things Feb 28 20:11:00 in a remote alley, few streets from my workshop where N900 alternative cover is sloooowly born Feb 28 20:11:46 who would expect any thug wanting N900 those days? Feb 28 20:14:24 drugs. anything worth anything goes. Feb 28 20:15:10 quite possible Feb 28 20:17:35 did you manage to keep your N900? Feb 28 20:18:08 "over my dead body" usually being the wrong answer in a situations as such Feb 28 20:19:42 :o Feb 28 20:21:27 Skry, , thanks for asking - yes, it ended up quite OK, and I agree with you, not wise to risk life for such case Feb 28 20:21:36 I have no trouble with HAM, patience. Feb 28 20:21:50 Estel_: they still wanted it after they looked at it? :o Feb 28 20:22:19 Estel_: glad to here Feb 28 20:22:45 the thing here is that, fortunately for me, and sadly for them, I'm quite experienced with street fighting (I know, it sound strange), so instead of getting beaten I told them to gtfo once, and when one of them made move in my direction, I did what nation leaders call "preemptive strike" Feb 28 20:22:49 kerio, haha Feb 28 20:23:07 no idea, maybe they mistook it for some fancy android or iphone shit? Feb 28 20:23:16 that's why i said "after they looked at it" Feb 28 20:23:19 i assume you had the xl cover Feb 28 20:23:41 no, was just heading back frrom workshop wth my regular one :P Feb 28 20:24:38 it ended up in me keeping my things, them beaten pretty hard, and me having nasty bruise on my head, above eye, due to one of them having some recycled metal thing on fist, don't remember english word for it Feb 28 20:25:01 fortunatelly, just surface one, completely light, despite looking ugly Feb 28 20:25:16 then, spend 3 fuckin hours reporting incodent to police Feb 28 20:25:21 for no use, probably Feb 28 20:26:06 knuckles? Feb 28 20:26:10 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brass_knuckles Feb 28 20:26:26 strangely, I though that I kept my cool totally during short fight, but a while later, doing "hand check", it was shaking quite a lot - adrenaline burst must have been serious Feb 28 20:26:27 yea Feb 28 20:26:48 knuckles, that's the name Feb 28 20:27:58 BTW I thank godnes that I decided to atack, cause responce of 2nd one (one with knuckles) was too slow due to suprise - I bet they would hit me with it if I would give them things, before running. It's infamous practice here :/ Feb 28 20:28:19 and that things, if hit in bad place, are pretty serious, I'm still little shaken up Feb 28 20:29:11 (emotions, not actual hit which was "almost-miss" and is not serious - thanks for asking :P ) Feb 28 20:29:57 Now, I want lightsaber into my N900. May be powered via usb. :< Feb 28 20:30:39 I get you, from the streets myself, good to hear you're ok, knuckles usually leave you in a bad shape. Feb 28 20:30:56 unless you're quick enough Feb 28 20:31:05 Estel_: wallet = problem Feb 28 20:31:15 mo' money mo' problems Feb 28 20:31:34 xes: otoh, "i don't have a wallet" is usually a reason to beat you up Feb 28 20:31:39 yea, it's sad that in - after all - middle of nice city, you must be more brutal than "they" to keep yopurself in good shape Feb 28 20:31:56 xes, funny enough, I don't have wallet Feb 28 20:32:05 keeping money in pockets Feb 28 20:32:24 but as kerio said, it wouldn't sound convincing Mar 01 00:08:51 what remote software is the best? qtirreco is brain damaged Mar 01 00:12:08 pierogi Mar 01 00:12:25 if it's got your remote Mar 01 00:18:46 but it doesn't (Motorola VIP1200) Mar 01 00:19:18 ill check again though Mar 01 00:21:09 i think the best it did was turn my tv on and off Mar 01 00:32:47 I'm using irreco (*without* qt) and it works quite nice Mar 01 00:33:24 is that in extras stable? Mar 01 00:33:34 dunno Mar 01 00:33:39 ~pkgs Mar 01 00:33:40 i guess #maemo pkg is http://maemo.org/packages/ Mar 01 00:35:42 umm, has only diablo version Mar 01 00:36:01 there's a for-n900 version it seems Mar 01 00:36:22 lemme doublecheck Mar 01 00:36:26 extras-devel... I'm waiting til I use the thing some more Mar 01 00:36:42 err, you will wait forever then Mar 01 00:37:15 lots of good and mature stuff got stuck in extras-devel since promoting is a flawed process Mar 01 00:37:33 otoh not all in extras-devel is safe for use Mar 01 00:38:25 and generally extras-devel is not safe for updates. So the suggestion is to enable the catalog in HAM, search whatever packet you want to install, install it, and disable catalog again Mar 01 00:38:38 i'll go ghetto Mar 01 00:38:44 debs only Mar 01 00:38:57 strongly deprecated usually Mar 01 00:39:08 no dependency resolving for you Mar 01 00:39:45 apt-get install is the better alternative Mar 01 00:40:02 but it also needs extras-devel enabled when you want something from there Mar 01 00:41:39 IroN900:~# apt-cache policy irreco-for-n900 Mar 01 00:41:40 irreco-for-n900: Mar 01 00:41:42 Installed: 0.8.0 Mar 01 00:46:14 what's locking apt asdf Mar 01 00:47:48 had to open ham again and then close it again Mar 01 00:47:51 ok, but... Mar 01 00:48:24 no, you don't need to open and close again HAM Mar 01 00:48:52 it just takes a few minutes to finish a background process apt-worker, when you close it Mar 01 00:49:52 eventually the lockfile will get removed and apt works, without you doing anything Mar 01 00:53:00