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Mar 29 03:06:24 <bef0rd> there are some mirrors
Mar 29 03:07:57 <bef0rd> http://skeiron.org/tablets-dev/nokia_770/
Mar 29 03:08:07 <bef0rd> elfurbe ^
Mar 29 03:11:55 <DocScrutinizer05> ~skeiron
Mar 29 03:11:57 <infobot> well, skeiron is the semi-official backup and emergency standin for all internet borne maemo resources: http://skeiron.org/tablets-dev/   http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1315143#post1315143
Mar 29 04:16:50 <elfurbe> bef0rd: Thanks!
Mar 29 04:17:15 <elfurbe> Is it not recommended to use the 2007HE I've read about?
Mar 29 04:18:31 <bef0rd> I wouldnt know
Mar 29 11:24:14 <eddyb> stupid galaxy tab
Mar 29 11:24:36 <eddyb> I tried to check the version in the settings, it said "3.1", but factory default is 4, so that's impossible
Mar 29 11:25:20 <eddyb> however, the kernel was built somewhere in late 2011, and that fits 4.0.3 (which is the version I need for the easy root method)
Mar 29 11:26:51 <eddyb> both cables came yesterday (I paid $12), but I wasn't able to get adb to see the device :(
Mar 29 11:29:47 <eddyb> DocScrutinizer05: you were right, hostmode-gui wasn't enough to get adb working
Mar 29 11:30:03 <eddyb> I saw a kernel-hostmode package, is that better?
Mar 29 11:32:25 <eddyb> oh wtf
Mar 29 11:32:34 <eddyb> http://www.samsung.com/global/microsite/galaxytab/10.1/spec.html this is honeycomb
Mar 29 11:32:51 <eddyb> I thought it was tab 2. maybe it's the older tab, hmm
Mar 29 11:34:11 <eddyb> wat
Mar 29 11:34:30 <eddyb> it's ridiculously easy to root the old ones XD http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/05/11/samsung-galaxy-tab-10-1-already-rooted-using-the-easiest-root-instructions-ever/
Mar 29 11:37:23 <eddyb> oh, nvm, those idiots forgot to say it's for the Google IO edition
Mar 29 12:09:32 <Drathir> hi
Mar 29 12:21:22 <kerio> eddyb: you need a powered HUB to do serious hostmode with "weird" things
Mar 29 12:21:29 <kerio> s/HUB/hub/
Mar 29 12:21:30 <infobot> kerio meant: eddyb: you need a powered hub to do serious hostmode with "weird" things
Mar 29 12:22:18 <eddyb> kerio: lsusb shows me the device, but adb doesn't see it. the tablet has power of its own, so that shouldn't be a problem
Mar 29 12:24:06 <XATRIX> Hi, i have 2 GRPS accesspoints
Mar 29 12:24:13 <XATRIX> 1. Internet  2. MMS
Mar 29 12:24:38 <Drathir> kerio: me to hunting thats kind of hub....
Mar 29 12:25:16 <XATRIX> My issue is , i have enable autoconnect to Internet APN , and search every 10 minutes interval
Mar 29 12:25:34 <XATRIX> But it always connects to MMS APN :( that has no internet access
Mar 29 12:25:37 <kerio> XATRIX: why do you loathe having battery life? :(
Mar 29 12:25:49 <XATRIX> sorry what ?
Mar 29 12:26:04 <kerio> iirc there's a way to specify which IAPs to autoconnect to
Mar 29 12:26:07 <kerio> but there's nothing in the GUI
Mar 29 12:26:14 <XATRIX> it is
Mar 29 12:26:25 <XATRIX> I actually defined Internet APN to connect to
Mar 29 12:26:26 <Drathir> mostly connect to last succesfull conected ap or gprs
Mar 29 12:26:49 <XATRIX> But after i come out of a subway, it does rescan and connects to MMS
Mar 29 12:27:43 <Drathir> settings internet connections have auto connect to option if good remember...
Mar 29 12:28:00 <XATRIX> Yea, i have auto-connect enabled
Mar 29 12:28:09 <XATRIX> And i specified Internet AP 
Mar 29 12:28:30 <XATRIX> But everytime i loose the connection it does reconnect to MMS
Mar 29 12:28:43 <XATRIX> How can i tell it not to use this AP in any case!
Mar 29 12:28:56 <XATRIX> I have to ONLY manually connect to MMS
Mar 29 12:29:16 <Drathir> you setting up no connect to wi fi and off the interval of search?
Mar 29 12:29:34 <XATRIX> Not exact
Mar 29 12:29:43 <XATRIX> I have auto-connect to WIFI off
Mar 29 12:29:53 <XATRIX> But i need auto-connect only to Internet AP
Mar 29 12:29:57 <XATRIX> Not MMS one
Mar 29 12:30:18 <XATRIX> It shouldn't normally use MMS ap in any case, only Internet
Mar 29 12:30:51 <Drathir> if you dont need use mms try fapn to delete mms from list but idk if that works...
Mar 29 12:31:35 <XATRIX> Yea, i have fapn
Mar 29 12:31:46 <XATRIX> But if i remove mms, it will never work with
Mar 29 12:32:03 <XATRIX> I need this ap only when i receive mms message
Mar 29 12:32:20 <XATRIX> mostly 95% of a time it should be always unused
Mar 29 12:32:26 <XATRIX> But i'd not like to remove it
Mar 29 12:33:05 <Drathir> or also try check if you have first on list mms try add mms to last possition maybe that help...
Mar 29 12:34:09 <XATRIX> Hm... fapn has only one ap.. mms
Mar 29 12:34:20 <XATRIX> My Internet ap, was autoconfigured
Mar 29 12:38:45 <kerio> XATRIX: you have to use gconftool to tell ICD2 to only autoconnect /to that one IAP/
Mar 29 12:38:50 <kerio> not just in the GUI
Mar 29 12:39:10 <Drathir> i make by hand apn for internet too...
Mar 29 12:41:01 <Drathir> kerio: proppably you have right... for me only one missing thing for now is usage gprs and wlan in the same time...
Mar 29 12:42:55 <XATRIX> kerio: how can i do it with gconftool ? never used it
Mar 29 13:44:20 <nszeek> Can anyone help me with my n900? I want to save the contacts' photos to my PC but I can't seem to find where they are stored.
Mar 29 13:52:38 <SpeedEvil> have you tried searching tmo?
Mar 29 13:52:47 <SpeedEvil> talk.maemo.org
Mar 29 13:53:05 <nszeek> I just google searched so far, I will try that.
Mar 29 14:43:15 <vi__> My bank goes to extra ordinary lengths to make sure I am who I say I am when I speak to them on the phone.
Mar 29 14:43:44 <vi__> Then they make me type out all my details in DTMF tones. -_-'
Mar 29 14:46:04 <ShadowJK> Giving out details over phone sounds kinda bads
Mar 29 14:46:30 <ShadowJK> you should interrogate THEM first so you're sure it's the bank you're talking to
Mar 29 17:12:07 <KaffeeJunky123> Hi, I'm having weird issues with SIP calls on the CSSU, when I call someone they can't hear my or they can only hear me very choppy whilst I do hear them clearly, however when they call me back it works pretty well. Any ideas on how to trace down this issue?
Mar 29 17:12:52 <KaffeeJunky123> The SIP calls are made via wireless and the local router is the SIP Gate
Mar 29 17:13:17 <trumee> KaffeeJunky123: on N900?
Mar 29 17:13:22 <KaffeeJunky123> trumee: jup
Mar 29 17:13:30 <trumee> KaffeeJunky123: sip on N900 is very poor
Mar 29 17:13:34 <KaffeeJunky123> I've googled a lot and found some old codec related issues
Mar 29 17:13:44 <KaffeeJunky123> they're supposed to be fixed from what I've read
Mar 29 17:13:58 <trumee> KaffeeJunky123: nope, the choppiness bug was never resolved
Mar 29 17:14:17 <trumee> KaffeeJunky123: i jumped ship to android because of this very issue :(
Mar 29 17:14:27 <KaffeeJunky123> oh
Mar 29 17:14:37 <KaffeeJunky123> the strange thing is
Mar 29 17:14:44 <KaffeeJunky123> I've had it working pretty well in the past
Mar 29 17:14:56 <KaffeeJunky123> but on pr1.2 with the stock kernel iirc
Mar 29 17:15:06 <KaffeeJunky123> now I'm on kernel-power
Mar 29 17:16:23 <trumee> it never worked very well for me for long periods of time. It was ok if i stuck to g711 codec and didnt use g729
Mar 29 17:17:41 <trumee> KaffeeJunky123: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10388
Mar 29 17:17:43 <povbot> 04Bug 10388: Choppy audio in SIP conversation, WLAN power save problem?
Mar 29 17:18:33 <KaffeeJunky123> trumee: I've seen and read this bug report, disabling powersaving didn't help much
Mar 29 17:18:57 <KaffeeJunky123> but skypecalls work 
Mar 29 17:19:12 <KaffeeJunky123> with strong powersaving they do not work very well
Mar 29 17:19:25 <KaffeeJunky123> so I guess that's a different issue
Mar 29 17:19:56 <trumee> KaffeeJunky123: the developer built some packages for me but they are gone, http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=921239&postcount=41
Mar 29 17:20:22 <trumee> i was chasing this issue for months but eventually got sick of it
Mar 29 17:20:56 <KaffeeJunky123> that's rather sad
Mar 29 17:21:17 <KaffeeJunky123> trumee: did you see the forum posts about using dbus-scripts to set the cpufreq to a fixed value for SIP calls?
Mar 29 17:21:37 <trumee> if you are using freeswitch there are some debs i posted in that thread which helps
Mar 29 17:22:04 <trumee> yes, fixing cpufreq helps
Mar 29 17:22:47 <trumee> sip on android has been working very well for me with the same wifi hardware
Mar 29 17:22:50 <KaffeeJunky123> and I guess you can do the same with wlan powersaving
Mar 29 17:23:35 <KaffeeJunky123> Well, I don't want to switch to another phone 
Mar 29 17:23:37 <trumee> i am hoping jolla will implement better sip so i can come to proper linux phone
Mar 29 17:23:50 <KaffeeJunky123> that would be awesome
Mar 29 17:24:02 <KaffeeJunky123> but we'll probably need new hardware anyways
Mar 29 17:24:19 <KaffeeJunky123> or do you think we can reuse the binary blobs from maemo?
Mar 29 17:24:36 <trumee> if they use the same codebase we are screwed
Mar 29 17:25:41 <trumee> dont think it will be compatible with maemo blobs, but i am no expert on this
Mar 29 17:27:50 <KaffeeJunky123> I don't think there'll be free drivers for the dsp an such, which limits what you can do with your device
Mar 29 17:28:07 <trumee> KaffeeJunky123: you can talk about sip with Olivier Crête, he lurks on freenode on some other channel. he is the developer for rtp on n900
Mar 29 17:29:18 <KaffeeJunky123> I'll see if I can find him
Mar 29 18:48:34 <teotwaki> So, my shoulder contains roughly 200 microfractures that didn't show up during the initial x-ray after my bike crash. Simply bumping into a wall means I could "break" my shoulder.
Mar 29 18:49:55 <freemangordon> Pali: ping
Mar 29 18:56:52 <kerio> teotwaki: have you tried not crashing with your bike? it sounds dangerous
Mar 29 18:57:14 <teotwaki> kerio: I tried, wasn't given a chance though.
Mar 29 18:58:09 <teotwaki> kerio: car cut me off in a roundabout, didn't see me coming, I tried braking, no use.
Mar 29 18:58:40 <kerio> was the bike ok?
Mar 29 18:58:49 <teotwaki> no, bike is totalled.
Mar 29 18:58:55 <kerio> ;_;
Mar 29 18:58:56 <teotwaki> so is the car, apparently.
Mar 29 18:59:03 <kerio> well at least there's that
Mar 29 18:59:17 <kerio> who was considered at fault?
Mar 29 18:59:24 <teotwaki> car
Mar 29 19:04:58 <Pali> freemangordon, pong
Mar 29 19:05:35 <freemangordon> Pali: about PPA API patch - will you repost it? I am not sure what exactly this guy needs to be changed
Mar 29 19:06:21 <Pali> freemangordon, he needs commit message with info why board smc api is not possible to write
Mar 29 19:06:27 <Pali> can you write that info?
Mar 29 19:06:38 <Pali> I will add it to commit message & resend full patch
Mar 29 19:07:18 <freemangordon> Pali: you mean - "why we need board PPA API instead of a generic one"?
Mar 29 19:07:31 <Pali> yes
Mar 29 19:07:48 <freemangordon> ok, will try to write something tomorrow and will send it to you
Mar 29 19:23:04 <Pali> ok
Mar 29 22:04:12 <Sadpanda> Hi, does anyone know how to scroll the X terminal window to the right? I am running airodump-ng and I can only see half the screen for some reason. The rest is hidden to the right.
Mar 29 23:34:34 <kerio> Pali: is there some easy command to load a uboot script from the SD?
Mar 29 23:36:27 <kerio> in the uboot console, i mean
Mar 29 23:37:13 <Pali> kerio, yes
Mar 29 23:37:18 <Pali> but I do not remember
Mar 29 23:37:26 <kerio> sdboot isn't quite like that
Mar 29 23:37:47 <Pali> there are more macros which load & run script
Mar 29 23:37:51 <Pali> like sdboot
Mar 29 23:38:02 <Pali> look to nokia_rx51.h
Mar 29 23:38:10 <Pali> or run: printenv
Mar 29 23:38:46 <kerio> running printenv isn't really that useful, if you can't scroll up :)
Mar 29 23:39:07 <kerio> also, is bootmenu.scr only loaded from the first partition (vfat) on the internal emmc?
Mar 29 23:39:11 <kerio> or does it try the sd too?
Mar 29 23:39:58 <Pali> only emmc
Mar 29 23:44:54 <DocScrutinizer05> now that's quite unfortunate
Mar 29 23:46:48 <DocScrutinizer05> and not exactly understandable - caling same subroutine twice, once with path to eMMC and once with path to uSD (or rather the other way round) shouldn't probably cost more than an additional 20 bytes or somesuch
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