**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Apr 01 02:59:57 2013 Apr 01 05:53:06 morning Apr 01 05:53:08 is there a way to see and set the wireless power on the shell? can't see the power info (mV) with iwconfig Apr 01 05:54:27 what else might be a reason for fast battery drain? Apr 01 07:16:16 Happy Easter-Monday-Morning Apr 01 08:51:26 tx0h: tx power of wlan is NOT a reason for battery drain Apr 01 08:53:01 tx0h: poor AP with no support for powersavings mode, or no AP at all but you forcing wlan chip into constant scanning, _that_ can both cut through your battery in no time Apr 01 09:00:20 what else can be done to save energy? my battery empties in about 12hrs!! Apr 01 09:00:58 how can i disable constant wifi scanning? Apr 01 09:01:08 there's no constant wifi scanning, surely Apr 01 09:01:18 tx0h: check the actual power consumption Apr 01 09:01:54 would 'initctl stop wlancond' help? Apr 01 09:02:16 first check the power consumption please Apr 01 09:02:26 hmm.. what else can cause this dramatic drain Apr 01 09:02:37 how? with powertop? Apr 01 09:02:49 nah, bq27k data Apr 01 09:02:56 ?? Apr 01 09:03:09 DocScrutinizer05: do you need to stop bme before reading from bq27200? Apr 01 09:03:57 usually not Apr 01 09:04:22 it can garble your readings but that won't kill anything, incl bme Apr 01 09:04:31 tx0h: http://enivax.net/jk/n900/bq27200.sh Apr 01 09:04:42 run `sudo bq27200.sh 10` Apr 01 09:04:47 you need to install i2c-tools first Apr 01 09:05:04 it'll give you a reading of voltage and current every 10 seconds Apr 01 09:05:21 run it in xterm and lock the screen for a while Apr 01 09:06:22 i can't find bq27200.sh, had i2c-tools installed before Apr 01 09:07:14 i gave you the link to download it :) Apr 01 09:07:48 ~bq27200 Apr 01 09:07:50 extra, extra, read all about it, bq27k-detail is http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/usr/local/sbin/bq27k-detail2 Apr 01 09:08:22 ~literal bq27200 Apr 01 09:08:22 "bq27200" is "see bq27k-detail" Apr 01 09:08:26 hm Apr 01 09:08:41 surely bq27200.sh is what people usually want to use Apr 01 09:08:45 it's got a looping mode and everything Apr 01 09:09:13 http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/usr/local/sbin/bq27* Apr 01 09:09:48 http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/usr/local/sbin/bq27200.sh Apr 01 09:09:58 http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/usr/local/sbin/bq27k-detail-perl Apr 01 09:10:09 http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/usr/local/sbin/bq27k-detail2 Apr 01 09:10:17 uuuuugh that's awful Apr 01 09:10:19 perl D: Apr 01 09:12:32 sowat? you think your python version is nicer? ;-P Apr 01 09:12:43 yep Apr 01 09:14:00 # perl-rewrite (c) 2013-01-01 jon_y Apr 01 09:14:02 # http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-ssu-irclog/%23maemo-ssu.2013-01-02.log.html#t2013-01-02T00:16:18 Apr 01 09:15:03 Error: Could not set address to 0x55: Device or resource busy Apr 01 09:15:26 do i need to stop this battery eye thing? Apr 01 09:15:34 maybe Apr 01 09:16:57 you need to modprobe -r bq27x00.ko I guess Apr 01 09:17:07 tx0h isn't using that module Apr 01 09:17:36 then for sure nothing should exclusively occupy the chip addr Apr 01 09:17:49 really? :o Apr 01 09:17:59 not found (the mod) Apr 01 09:17:59 if sth does, it deserves to get nuked from extras and extras-devel Apr 01 09:18:12 s/devel/testing/ Apr 01 09:18:13 tx0h: modprobe -r bq27x00_battery Apr 01 09:18:13 DocScrutinizer05 meant: if sth does, it deserves to get nuked from extras and extras-testing Apr 01 09:18:52 bme will not be happy when it gets restarted and can't open bq27200 on i2c bus Apr 01 09:18:53 this works Apr 01 09:19:06 why did you have that module loaded? Apr 01 09:19:09 now i need to switch off the power cable, right? Apr 01 09:19:26 good point :-) Apr 01 09:19:42 actually, i think that modprobe -r doesn't complain if the module isn't loaded Apr 01 09:19:45 but you can do that after you started bq27200.sh Apr 01 09:19:53 will be interesting for you to watch Apr 01 09:20:03 kerio: it does Apr 01 09:20:31 11:20 4137 100 100 54 903 903 903 0 65535 20 0 Apr 01 09:20:32 11:20 4100 100 100 -99 903 903 903 65535 542 20 0 Apr 01 09:20:54 this is before and after powercord disconnection Apr 01 09:21:01 yeah Apr 01 09:22:21 if your battery isn't massively worn out, your bq27200 chip is decalibrated Apr 01 09:23:03 but quite possibly your battery actually is worn and weak Apr 01 09:23:10 ~seen Pali Apr 01 09:23:11 pali <~pali@Maemo/community/contributor/Pali> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 2d 9h 43m 13s ago, saying: 'only emmc'. Apr 01 09:23:18 start bq27200 without time parameter Apr 01 09:23:31 and pastebin the output Apr 01 09:24:09 `sudo bq27200.sh` Apr 01 09:24:52 DocScrutinizer05: 900 LMD means 900 LMD Apr 01 09:24:52 you should do this in a second xterm window, or stop the looping bq27200.sh with ^C first Apr 01 09:24:59 no real way around it Apr 01 09:25:11 there's no way to fake LMD, remember? Apr 01 09:25:21 there's a shitload Apr 01 09:25:24 and it can only go down from ILMD Apr 01 09:25:56 of ways LMD can be wrong Apr 01 09:26:03 *that* wrong? Apr 01 09:26:04 hardly Apr 01 09:26:07 sure Apr 01 09:26:46 but I already said probably his cell is actually worn Apr 01 09:26:48 well, the battery is about a month old Apr 01 09:26:58 which battery is this? Apr 01 09:27:17 and I'm interested in cyclecount, and cycles-since-last-learn Apr 01 09:27:40 it's a GH BL-5J 1320 mHa 3.7V Apr 01 09:27:55 close Apr 01 09:28:07 gh? Apr 01 09:28:09 mAh Apr 01 09:28:15 even middle one uppercase been correct :-D Apr 01 09:28:24 it's a third party Apr 01 09:28:48 * kerio bets scam batteryt Apr 01 09:28:52 *battery Apr 01 09:28:56 prolly Apr 01 09:29:25 DocScrutinizer05: is there seriously no way to get binary data from i2cdump? :s Apr 01 09:29:49 huh? Apr 01 09:29:59 i got this weird printable thing Apr 01 09:30:06 i wanted /bytes/ Apr 01 09:30:13 how can i see the cycles-since-last-learn? Apr 01 09:30:24 tx0h: bq27200.sh without a numeric parameter Apr 01 09:30:32 `sudo bq27200.sh` Apr 01 09:30:38 I told you above Apr 01 09:31:15 it says: 0 Apr 01 09:31:22 no way Apr 01 09:31:45 you don't c&p the `, did you? Apr 01 09:32:22 no Apr 01 09:33:06 TTE 281 minutes Apr 01 09:33:20 this command has a plethora of rich info as output, for sure it doesn't say "0" Apr 01 09:33:43 noo.. Apr 01 09:33:51 [2013-04-01 11:23:17] start bq27200 without time parameter Apr 01 09:33:52 thats the calue it gives me Apr 01 09:33:53 [2013-04-01 11:23:31] and pastebin the output Apr 01 09:33:57 ~pastebin Apr 01 09:33:57 A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you should paste anything over 3 lines so you don't flood the channel. Here are links to a few: http://www.pastebin.com, http://pastebin.ca, http://channels.debian.net/paste, http://paste.lisp.org, http://bin.cakephp.org/; or install pastebinit with yum or aptitude. Apr 01 09:34:53 http://pastebin.ca/2346830 Apr 01 09:36:42 you completed a learning cycle with last discharging of your battery, and it evaluated battery total capacity as 903mAh Apr 01 09:37:34 ok Apr 01 09:37:51 which means that yor battery is worse than awful Apr 01 09:37:53 *your Apr 01 09:38:03 there's a reason cheap chinese batteries are cheap Apr 01 09:38:32 whats the reason? Apr 01 09:38:43 they're bad Apr 01 09:38:51 * grummund bought a chinese clone battery for his dell laptop Apr 01 09:38:52 oh, that simple :-) Apr 01 09:39:02 actually, no Apr 01 09:39:08 it lasted about 6 weeks and then suddenly died Apr 01 09:39:10 they're a crapshoot Apr 01 09:39:15 sometimes you get a good one Apr 01 09:39:19 but they're mostly bad Apr 01 09:39:26 most batteries are manufactured in the same hall Apr 01 09:39:45 just different lables Apr 01 09:39:57 yeah, and the ones that can guarantee a certain capacity and a certain life are sold as 1st party batteries Apr 01 09:40:22 the ones that weren't quite up to spec are "recycled" as third-party batteries Apr 01 09:40:31 :nod: Apr 01 09:40:53 whats a good source for low money? Apr 01 09:41:03 it's hard to find good /and/ cheap batteries and storage cards Apr 01 09:41:20 tx0h: the akku polarcell has been pretty reliable Apr 01 09:41:24 it had a good capacity but suddenly died completely Apr 01 09:41:26 1500mAh Apr 01 09:41:31 then there's also ghostshifts, where the employees build inferior product from material that got phased out from manufacturing process due to not meeting the specs Apr 01 09:42:08 often those ghostshift products even are labeled as "genuine" Apr 01 09:42:27 tx0h: where are you? Apr 01 09:42:29 polarcell, i watch out for them Apr 01 09:42:33 berlin Apr 01 09:42:36 mh Apr 01 09:42:43 i think ebay had a german seller for those Apr 01 09:42:51 there's also an amazon uk seller Apr 01 09:43:19 12.90€ Apr 01 09:43:46 hmm.. well.. this ones where waaay cheaper. to cheap. Apr 01 09:43:50 I got all my spare batteries from "turkish" (or pakistani, or indian) second-hand cellphone stores, for cheap money Apr 01 09:43:53 and it says Artikelstandort: Berlin Apr 01 09:44:03 which i assume means "article is in:" Apr 01 09:44:06 you can find those on each corner, especially in Berlin Apr 01 09:44:30 i know. in neukoelln or wedding Apr 01 09:44:46 if we trust dr_frost_dk's battery thread, they're currently the best batteries Apr 01 09:45:16 who wouldn't trust dr_frost_dk? Apr 01 09:46:22 i don't trust doctors Apr 01 09:46:26 :P Apr 01 09:48:42 i also have one polarcell Apr 01 09:48:46 just checked it Apr 01 09:48:55 Average Current: 113 mA looks reasonable for screen backlight on Apr 01 09:49:38 but it says 1400mAh Apr 01 09:49:45 not 1500 Apr 01 09:51:06 it's rather irrelevant what it *says*, it's interesting what it *provides* ;-) Apr 01 09:51:29 as in: LMD Apr 01 09:52:29 * DocScrutinizer05 just idly wonders why bq27x00_battery.ko been loaded Apr 01 09:52:40 whats better for the battery? charging via usb port or in the external charger? Apr 01 09:52:53 doesn't mazzer Apr 01 09:52:57 matter* Apr 01 09:53:18 tx0h: no seriously, why was bq27x00_battery loaded Apr 01 09:53:34 err wut? external charger? those are usually pretty crappy cheap ... crap Apr 01 09:53:36 i'm clueless Apr 01 09:53:38 tell me Apr 01 09:53:53 well, it's a nokia charger Apr 01 09:53:55 1) are you running kernel-power 52 prerelease? Apr 01 09:54:05 2) have you installed the bme replacement? Apr 01 09:54:31 are you running KP48 or older even? Apr 01 09:55:01 wait, i just boot with the polarcell in it Apr 01 09:56:18 tx0h: you're aware that this doesn't change your LMD reading from bq27200.sh? until you ran two or 3 valid learning cycles on the swapped battery Apr 01 09:57:04 ? i swap my battery every now and then Apr 01 09:57:08 not good? Apr 01 09:57:39 well it gives you weird readings in bq27k Apr 01 09:57:48 well, it just renders the probed total capacity (LMD) in bq27200 moot Apr 01 09:58:52 TimeToEmpty etc is calculated from LMD and AverageCurrent, so this is also moot Apr 01 09:59:07 hmmm.. then maybe the 903mAh are not the real value? Apr 01 09:59:34 they been, for *some* cell you used Apr 01 10:00:01 actually for the cell you used when you last time completely discharged your battery Apr 01 10:00:22 (since "cycles since last learning cycle: 0") Apr 01 10:00:25 and even then, not really, unless you've been using the bme replacement Apr 01 10:00:35 or you specifically did a calibration cycle Apr 01 10:00:37 hm? Apr 01 10:00:53 learning cycle is learning cycle Apr 01 10:01:08 whatever you did to accomplish it Apr 01 10:01:09 you can't do a learning cycle with bme_RX-51, it'll force a shutdown before Apr 01 10:01:37 kerio: read http://pastebin.ca/2346830 Apr 01 10:02:18 \_o_/ Apr 01 10:02:40 CI=0, Cycle Count since Learning: 0 Apr 01 10:03:29 Linux Nokia-N900-42-11 2.6.28.10-power51 #1 PREEMPT Mon Jul 23 16:41:15 EEST 2012 armv7l GNU/Linux Apr 01 10:04:10 means very last discharge completed a learning cycle, and that resulted in "Last Measured Discharge: 903 mAh" Apr 01 10:04:23 tx0h: but have you loaded the module manually? Apr 01 10:04:28 because afaik, nothing should load it automatically Apr 01 10:04:38 :nod: Apr 01 10:04:46 in fact, it MUST NOT be loaded automatically Apr 01 10:04:54 (by default) Apr 01 10:04:55 nope, but maybe the battery-eye thing? Apr 01 10:05:00 hm, it's possible Apr 01 10:05:23 battery-eye is crap iirc Apr 01 10:05:30 how can i force learning? Apr 01 10:06:02 DocScrutinizer05: does bme-rx51 do force reads from bq27k? Apr 01 10:06:05 http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/calibrate-bq27k.sh Apr 01 10:06:17 and resetting previous data from otrher batteries Apr 01 10:08:35 tx0h: since LMD can change only 1/8 from last value per learning cycle, you may need 2 or 3 to actually reach true LMD for a cell (900mAh->1012,5mAh->1139mAh->...) Apr 01 10:08:50 DocScrutinizer05: there's no limit on up-learning though Apr 01 10:09:09 that's my guess, I heard some e*_ argued there was Apr 01 10:09:58 as a rule of thumb, when LMD doesn't change significantly between two learning cycles (aka claibration), you can be sure it's valid Apr 01 10:11:02 but in general it's better to work with one battery and don't change to often because the charging is influenced by the data of other batteries. is this what i've learned? Apr 01 10:11:25 no, charging isn't influenced Apr 01 10:11:33 what does the calibrate script do? Apr 01 10:11:44 ok, i just thought that would Apr 01 10:11:54 you can swap batteries as you like, just the values in bq27200 chip won't apply to new battery then Apr 01 10:12:35 and since e.g. battery-eye seems to rely on those values, you might get fooled then Apr 01 10:13:15 it doesn't have any impact on N900's performance (available standby time etc), but your meters might show bogus values Apr 01 10:13:41 what does the calibrate script do? Apr 01 10:14:08 i will remove the battery-eye thing Apr 01 10:14:24 it charges your device til battery full, then stops charging and waits until battery empty and learning cycle complete, then re-enables charging Apr 01 10:14:25 tx0h: the source is fairly self-explanatory, but all it does is wait for the charge to complete, then shuts off the charging (while the cable is still connected) until the battery is depleted enough for the battery chip to calibrate Apr 01 10:14:28 then starts the charging again Apr 01 10:14:59 nota bene my calibrate script doesn't work with bme-replacement Apr 01 10:15:14 yeah, the script for the bme replacement is much simpler Apr 01 10:15:16 :P Apr 01 10:15:23 meh! Apr 01 10:15:56 how can i find out what i'm up with? bme-replacement or not? Apr 01 10:16:04 have you installed the bme replacements? Apr 01 10:16:10 *replacement Apr 01 10:16:14 tx0h: you should read thru the script, it's really self explanatory, and not everything is easy to read on screen when it executes Apr 01 10:16:45 dpkg tells me i have bme-rx-51 Apr 01 10:16:49 lsmod|grep ???? Apr 01 10:17:08 ask somebody for what to grep, who actually got bme replacement Apr 01 10:17:09 tx0h: what's the version? Apr 01 10:17:15 apt-cache policy bme-rx-51 Apr 01 10:17:23 0.8.55+0m5 Apr 01 10:17:28 you don't have the bme replacement Apr 01 10:17:37 no mod with bme in its name is loaded Apr 01 10:17:41 but then, why the hell was that module loaded Apr 01 10:17:55 bat-crye Apr 01 10:18:37 some of bat-spye-crap does force-load bq27k_battery iirc Apr 01 10:20:07 I for one would rename the bq27200_battery.ko to *-hide-me Apr 01 10:20:14 i purged battery-eye :-) Apr 01 10:20:26 tx0h: reboot now Apr 01 10:20:29 just to be sure Apr 01 10:20:37 it still might have nuked the blacklist entry Apr 01 10:20:57 there's no blacklist entry Apr 01 10:21:01 who knows what battery-eye does (on post-deinstall) Apr 01 10:21:02 it's just... not loaded by anything Apr 01 10:21:11 well, i need to start a travel in 1/2 hour Apr 01 10:21:16 hm, actually there is Apr 01 10:21:17 what do you know Apr 01 10:21:20 \_o_/ Apr 01 10:21:36 tzz :-P Apr 01 10:21:58 anyway, the bme replacement packaging is kinda backwards on this, i guess Apr 01 10:22:08 the modules are blacklisted and then loaded manually later on Apr 01 10:22:20 you know me how long now? don't you think it's wise to doublecheck if I might be right before you say i'm wrong? ;-) Apr 01 10:22:39 instead of, you know, loading basic functionality like /CHARGING THE BATTERY ON A MOBILE DEVICE/ at the earliest Apr 01 10:22:50 DocScrutinizer05: yeah but you're also forgetting Apr 01 10:22:51 ~kerio Apr 01 10:22:53 methinks kerio is kerio is right Apr 01 10:23:11 look, when I'm usually wrong, then... Apr 01 10:23:14 ;-P Apr 01 10:23:40 no bq module loaded after reboot Apr 01 10:23:47 good Apr 01 10:23:49 good Apr 01 10:24:00 now you're safe to run http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/calibrate-bq27k.sh Apr 01 10:24:27 not really, it's noon Apr 01 10:24:28 no, i need to rush to the station Apr 01 10:24:29 :-( Apr 01 10:24:34 see? Apr 01 10:24:39 you might want to run bq27200.sh 30 in another xterm Apr 01 10:24:41 run that script overnight Apr 01 10:24:42 i'm offline for at least 24 hours now Apr 01 10:24:53 yes, i will do Apr 01 10:24:54 in parallel to http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/calibrate-bq27k.sh Apr 01 10:25:12 the backlight on with a black screen won't actually give out much light Apr 01 10:25:31 huh? Apr 01 10:25:38 ooh Apr 01 10:25:50 or mostly black, i mean Apr 01 10:26:04 ok. i need to shutdown my desktop now and get me into my clothes Apr 01 10:26:07 or place device in a drawer ;-P Apr 01 10:26:16 thank you for some insights Apr 01 10:26:20 or put on cloth goggles Apr 01 10:26:24 yw Apr 01 10:27:00 DocScrutinizer05: i have a fuckton of blinkenlights in my room anyway Apr 01 10:27:17 I have a TV in my room ;-P Apr 01 10:27:32 I forgot if it has or hasn't a powerswitch Apr 01 10:29:12 recently I started pondering to install some PIR-motion-detectors pointing away from my bed, and have the TV shut down if they don't detect movement for >60min Apr 01 10:35:01 I need to install obfsproxy on maemo but there is no binary package for that. I have tried to compile that on my phone but it was unsuccessful. can someone here help me create a binary package for that? Apr 01 10:36:05 http://paste.kde.org/713258/ Apr 01 10:40:43 you need a scratchbox fremantle build environment on you rPC Apr 01 10:42:31 or somebody willing to try and build it for you on his sb Apr 01 10:44:46 it's a heroic but usually futile effort to build on N900 Apr 01 10:45:34 starting with the pathetic amount of real free memory (RAM) you have for such build Apr 01 10:46:52 and not even ending with all the libs and sourcecode you need in adition to basic stuff like gcc Apr 01 10:48:34 bottom line: building on N900 is feasible for "hello world" (and even that may already suck) - everything beyond is for expert geeks only, and involves stuff like easydeb etc Apr 01 10:48:52 and for sure sucks Apr 01 10:50:06 what's obfsproxy ? Apr 01 10:51:50 MHM https://www.torproject.org/projects/obfsproxy.html.en Apr 01 10:52:06 also MHM Timmy has left this server (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). Apr 01 11:38:37 mmm, PIR TV ... I like Apr 01 11:39:28 any news on stuck builder? Apr 01 11:39:49 hmmm https://guardianproject.info/ Apr 01 11:40:02 sixwheeledbeast: shouldn't be stuck Apr 01 11:40:57 http://maemo.org/packages/repository/builds/fremantle_extras-devel_free_source/all/ Apr 01 11:41:16 I don't think we changed anything since last successful build Apr 01 11:41:39 https://garage.maemo.org/extras-assistant/ bander there since last night Apr 01 11:43:16 don't ask me why qgodville aapears in the list on left side but not in the box labebeled "latest builds" on right side Apr 01 11:47:31 sixwheeledbeast: this page you referred to looks pretty non-relevant to what'sa ctually going on on builder Apr 01 11:47:54 :shrugs: Apr 01 11:48:50 anyway I have no clue, sorry I can't help based on the info you give me and the investigations I could do based on that Apr 01 11:49:13 ok Apr 01 11:49:16 feel free to ping jacekowski about it Apr 01 11:49:47 but i'm afraid he's on holiday for a week Apr 01 11:51:14 if you want me to check any particular logfiles or dir content or whatever for you, just holler Apr 01 11:58:18 ~ping Apr 01 11:58:18 ~pong Apr 01 11:58:19 ~ping Apr 01 12:01:48 I have tried it again. See what happens. There's no build errors or logfiles here due to not leaving the queue. Apr 01 12:28:49 I see www gone down Apr 01 12:29:15 :-( Apr 01 12:29:23 fuuuuuu..... Apr 01 12:32:36 sigh. Apr 01 12:37:39 200% CPU Apr 01 12:37:50 ssh down Apr 01 12:38:07 might have to reboot hard the VM Apr 01 12:38:22 DocScrutinizer05: don't we have KVM access to it? Apr 01 12:38:33 and by we i mean you Apr 01 12:38:34 this is XEN Apr 01 12:38:42 no physical console? Apr 01 12:38:50 that's a paddlin' Apr 01 12:38:55 virtual phy console, yes Apr 01 12:39:31 like, one for each VM Apr 01 13:03:25 Hi. maemo.org is down. Where can I alternatively get the Firmware Upgrade Images and flasher-3.5? Apr 01 13:04:49 ~skeiron Apr 01 13:04:51 [skeiron] the semi-official backup and emergency standin for all internet borne maemo resources: http://skeiron.org/tablets-dev/ http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1315143#post1315143 Apr 01 13:04:55 tmpic: ^^^ Apr 01 13:05:15 Thanks. B-) Apr 01 13:05:18 Happy Easter! Apr 01 13:06:36 same to you :) Apr 01 13:10:41 also Apr 01 13:10:44 ~pr131 Apr 01 13:10:45 combined is probably the rootfs fiasco image of maemo. For N900 latest (PR1.3.1) see http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/fiasco+co/RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin or http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2011/9/--FID--A0A22MVWFVFAM/--LID--FiRe1317015685654/RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin Apr 01 13:16:46 MEH! another wasted hour Apr 01 13:16:53 :-/ Apr 01 13:40:33 there is something wrong with the extras assistant web ui Apr 01 13:40:55 I always get "File upload error. (tar file) Please try to upload your packages again!" after i upload both dsc and tarball Apr 01 13:41:13 jacekowski: ^^^ Apr 01 13:43:26 MSameer: he's on holiday so I am told Apr 01 13:43:58 well, i don't know how to report the issue then :| Apr 01 13:44:12 maybe a mailing list but i am not subscribed to any Apr 01 13:44:27 I have no issues with the assistant but the package seems to sit in the queue forever. Apr 01 13:44:45 maybe there is a limit on the file size Apr 01 13:44:49 also my scp is broken Apr 01 13:45:02 scp worked fine here Apr 01 13:45:14 msameer@drop.maemo.org:/var/www/extras-devel/incoming-builder/fremantle Apr 01 13:45:30 but so far auto builder hasn't picked the stuff up yet Apr 01 13:46:42 n900-quran Apr 01 13:46:44 ?? Apr 01 13:46:47 yup Apr 01 13:46:55 how did you know? :) Apr 01 13:47:01 it sat in build queue with my package Apr 01 13:47:09 aha Apr 01 13:47:34 so scp works in theory but autobuilder is not picking up Apr 01 13:48:23 if you check todays logs. I reported this just after maintenance yesterday. Apr 01 13:48:50 it's not the upload it's not being built Apr 01 13:49:12 my scp issue seems a separate issue. Apr 01 13:49:13 might be april fools then :P Apr 01 13:49:24 so builder is playing with us Apr 01 13:50:28 i don't usually lark here so i missed what you have reported but maybe i should start larking here Apr 01 13:51:15 seems to be where all the good stuff happens Apr 01 13:51:35 if you want to keep bleeding-edge on maemo news... Apr 01 13:52:57 there might be a cronjob missing or garbled Apr 01 13:53:31 or some nfs mount borked Apr 01 13:53:43 or dunno what Apr 01 13:53:50 ~lart autobuilder Apr 01 13:53:51 * infobot throws a AN/M-8 smoke grenade at autobuilder Apr 01 13:54:11 :cough: Apr 01 13:54:32 * sixwheeledbeast can no longer see builder for smoke Apr 01 13:54:42 the only april's fool so far is http://monitor.maemo.org/ganglia/graph_all_periods.php?h=www&m=load_one&r=2hr&s=by%20name&hc=4&mc=2&st=1364822289&g=mem_report&z=large&c=maemo Apr 01 13:55:08 sixwheeledbeast: so walk on, nothing to see here Apr 01 13:55:52 * sixwheeledbeast retreats quickly to reload Apr 01 13:56:22 you noticed jacekowski's terse topological map of autobuilder at http://wiki.maemo.org/Migrating_to_Community-driven_Infrastructure ? Apr 01 14:00:35 http://wiki.maemo.org/Migrating_to_Community-driven_Infrastructure#Autobuilder_and_friends particularly Apr 01 14:01:01 I'll happily provide excerps from any dirs or logs, if you tell me what you wanna know Apr 01 14:04:39 hm, "topological map" Apr 01 14:04:50 i was expecting a continuous function between topological spaces Apr 01 14:06:52 LOL, you're missing out dimensions to see the continuity ;-) Apr 01 14:07:04 dimensions? Apr 01 14:07:09 wtf is a dimension Apr 01 14:07:25 ~wiki dimension Apr 01 14:07:27 point-set topology has no dimensions Apr 01 14:07:37