**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Apr 13 02:59:58 2013 Apr 13 03:11:39 Sc0rpius: test it, and tell us Apr 13 03:12:06 seems for some it actaully does work, otherwise there wouldn't be new packages Apr 13 03:32:41 yeah that's what I thought Apr 13 03:33:55 I'm testing it right now, at least it allowed me to login and upload Apr 13 03:34:02 we'll see if it builds Apr 13 03:54:55 yeah it built ok, I even received the mail Apr 13 05:01:23 thank you, sc0rpius :) Apr 13 05:10:13 I just had to repair my N900's USB port today, it charges just fine on my computer and HP TouchPad charger, but not on either one of my Nokia chargers, depspite using the same cable - any idea why? Apr 13 05:11:22 you either need something with shorted D+/-, which means that the n900 will pull up to 1A, or a proper usb hosts to negotiate the current Apr 13 05:11:47 What does the stock N900 charger do? Apr 13 05:14:33 I fixed these points on my connector: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/29047266/N900%20Stuff/USB%20Fix/USB%20Weakness.png Apr 13 05:18:25 Now it won't recognise any charger.. I probably have to reboot Apr 13 05:18:54 (interestingly, data still works just fine - eg: I can tether to my computer) Apr 13 05:22:01 charger detection is broken, maybe? Apr 13 05:52:30 any way to fix that? Apr 13 09:30:27 nokia charger proppably is broken... if charging connected to pc... Apr 13 09:48:33 or plug Apr 13 10:00:34 guys, I changed my AGPS from supl.nokia.com to supl.google.com Apr 13 10:00:45 it works now, but the accuracy is not so good Apr 13 10:00:53 is there any way to improve it? Apr 13 10:00:56 nothing to do with supl data Apr 13 10:01:05 better signal Apr 13 10:01:18 jacekowski, ah Apr 13 10:01:25 what is supl data? Apr 13 10:01:36 before I changed it to google I did not get ANY gps location Apr 13 10:01:48 it's data that allows gps to lock faster Apr 13 10:02:02 as in, seconds rather than 15 minutes it takes to download that data from the satellite Apr 13 10:02:56 supl data basically says where the satellites are and their orbits and other info Apr 13 10:03:09 and you either download it from internet or from the satellite Apr 13 10:03:22 but download from satellite takes over 10 minutes Apr 13 10:03:42 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_to_first_fix Apr 13 10:04:09 basically with supl data each start is a hot start Apr 13 10:04:15 there is any update of builit in gprs reciver? Apr 13 10:04:17 without, it's a cold start Apr 13 10:05:16 firmware i mean... Apr 13 10:06:38 jacekowski, so there is no way to improve accuracy but to either wait or just move to a location with a better signal? Apr 13 10:07:54 i have strange behaviours with gprs often signal gone or gprs connection aborting signal 2-3/5 in 2.5G Apr 13 10:09:56 in 3G and 3.5G mtr also dosnt work so good... where can be the reason of that behaviours? Apr 13 10:11:50 sometomes also cant connec anyway is network avaible... works then ifconfig phonet0 down two times and ifconfig phonet0 up Apr 13 10:13:15 is possibility to gprs reciver is broken or fw is outdated? Apr 13 11:56:25 ~ping Apr 13 11:56:26 ~pong Apr 13 12:46:48 ~ping Apr 13 12:46:49 ~pong Apr 13 12:47:56 ~peng Apr 13 13:18:21 hm Apr 13 13:18:27 i need to wipe the sd in the n900 without taking it out Apr 13 13:18:58 thre's like an fdisk for it isn't there? Apr 13 13:31:10 any solution for similar to shazam id app? Apr 13 13:31:33 Macer: dd? Apr 13 13:32:45 Macer: secure wipe with dd normal with mkfs.ext4 but i think its sadly bugged... :/ Apr 13 13:33:04 Macer: "like an fdisk"? what? Apr 13 13:34:31 fdisk -l is also inside system if card is not recognised check dmesg if phone see it or not... Apr 13 13:34:36 kerio: heh Apr 13 13:34:49 it's ok. i just pulled it out and popped it into another box Apr 13 13:35:11 now i just have to figure out how to get the cam to not save stuff straight to the home dir :-/ Apr 13 13:35:28 the videos are being stores blindly... i'm sure there is a setting somewhere Apr 13 13:35:50 i only had an 8GB SD so i'm going to use that for a while for music Apr 13 13:36:01 until i order a 32GB one for it :) Apr 13 13:36:02 inside camera view left down corner if good remember... Apr 13 13:36:14 Drathir: yeah i'll check it out Apr 13 13:36:32 i'm sure it can't be too hard to do ... but i did want to save to a specific dir but i'll see about that later Apr 13 13:36:56 second icon Apr 13 13:37:24 after usb storage mode is disconnected does media player get updated? Apr 13 13:38:25 ok only two choises but you easly if good tink you can symlink directory where you want to save... Apr 13 13:40:07 no idea about update, but proppably yes because remount the partition i think but im not sure... Apr 13 13:40:15 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009QZH7BU/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&keywords=32GB%20Micro%20sd&qid=1365860351&sr=8-5 Apr 13 13:40:19 that should work right? Apr 13 13:40:55 Ships in Certified Frustration-Free Packaging <- the real reason i want that one Apr 13 13:43:40 alrighty. i just ordered a 32GB SD for the new N900 heh Apr 13 13:44:08 i need the old 8GB one i'm using for testing nemo :) Apr 13 13:44:18 on my old broken modem n900 heh Apr 13 13:45:46 Macer: i dont think so thats looks like sdxc? dont have sdhc mark... Apr 13 13:46:16 * Macer points at the description Apr 13 13:46:19 sd hc I thats something new for me... Apr 13 13:46:39 SanDisk Ultra 32 GB MicroSDHC Class 10 UHS-1 Memory Card with Adapter (SDSDQU-032G-AFFP-A) Apr 13 13:46:47 heh Apr 13 13:46:54 i think 64GB+ is sdxc Apr 13 13:47:22 i don't think that the xc part is really a speed improvement as it is more so an addressing change to accomidate more space Apr 13 13:47:46 i mean i'm sure thye will make them go faster but i don't think that is the main purpose of it Apr 13 13:47:53 yes true that isnt xc, but anyway looks little strange Apr 13 13:48:18 xc isnt backward compatibile if good remember... Apr 13 13:48:34 no it isn't Apr 13 13:48:52 but what i just bought is sdhc ;) Apr 13 13:49:02 and if it isn't.. i'll jsut send it back heh Apr 13 13:49:50 or that sd hc I mean sd hc 1 = class 10 but will be strange description Apr 13 13:52:17 oh if can be send back you easy can test if it works or not... if i can please say me it works or not... Apr 13 13:55:10 Macer: how read that prices? what is real end price of that sd? Apr 13 14:01:28 $27US Apr 13 14:01:34 that's how much i juts paid for it Apr 13 14:01:38 just Apr 13 14:02:00 looks interesting for 32GB Apr 13 14:02:12 yes. i thought it was rather cheap to be honest :) Apr 13 14:02:23 even though they probably cost $0.05 to produce Apr 13 14:05:21 for critical data sandisk would be better, but for non critical all can be enough most of them works at samsung memory chip... Apr 13 14:06:14 bigger one too usb pendrives... Apr 13 14:06:47 hello. which navigation software do you use on maemo 5 in productive? Apr 13 14:07:42 nokia maps? Apr 13 14:11:21 yeah I tried nokia maps and mapero. but nokia map works much better. it just slows down my n900 very much Apr 13 14:11:38 use Navit Apr 13 14:11:46 its the best GPS for N900 Apr 13 14:12:02 offline routing its one of its main advantages Apr 13 14:13:08 nokia maps/sygic would be awesome if they had newer maps, but without maps it's just 0 Apr 13 14:14:41 hm. nokia maps shows me a new roundabout, which was created in the last 2 months here in germany... Apr 13 14:15:00 I was suprised about that.. Apr 13 14:35:09 wth Apr 13 14:35:15 why doesn't maemo detect music on my sd? Apr 13 14:35:31 i figured the media player daemon would have reinitialized the music Apr 13 14:35:34 and saw it on the SD Apr 13 14:37:08 * Macer stares at this thing after a reboot Apr 13 14:37:53 oh there it goes Apr 13 14:40:30 why does the bt audio sound lower than my e7 Apr 13 14:40:37 is there a sound eq somewhere? Apr 13 15:00:43 volume buttons adjust sound for me when using bt Apr 13 15:09:42 [maintenance notice] preparing a snapshot of vcs/drop, which implies pausing the VM Apr 13 15:09:56 we'll be back to normal in a few minutes Apr 13 15:17:11 vcs unpaused/resumed Apr 13 15:22:11 * RST38h moos Apr 13 15:26:21 * DocScrutinizer05 remoos Apr 13 15:29:13 DocScrutinizer05: something big comming? Apr 13 15:29:23 nah Apr 13 15:29:33 we're sanitizing mess Apr 13 15:30:38 jacekowski asked me to do a full backup/clone of drop, since he wants to go hamuk on it Apr 13 15:32:25 I guess that's regarding autobuilder details, and/or numeric userID/groupID, and/or migrating from /etc/passwd based user auth to postgreSQL based auth Apr 13 15:35:58 btw ipv6 issue is on hosting side? Apr 13 15:39:17 DocScrutinizer05: if its not a secret someone recover your properly acces right? i will be freq scared with that happen to me... :/ Apr 13 15:40:12 Drathir: please rephrase Apr 13 15:42:02 DocScrutinizer05: if good remember few days ago you cant acces to some of files on server because someone or somthing change group with this files was associated... all back to norm now? Apr 13 15:42:57 ooh, that been an issue with NFS mounts. Nothing related to my access to any machine, I got proper root access to everything Apr 13 15:43:48 i will be really scared with similar situation happen to me... Apr 13 15:44:19 i will be really scared,if similar situation happen to me... Apr 13 15:49:53 Drathir: your problems with GPRS data connectivity seem to be blamed to carrier/provider Apr 13 15:54:46 (( i figured the media player daemon would have reinitialized the music)) that's done by indexer Apr 13 15:58:50 Drathir: your last post is perfect English ;-) Apr 13 15:58:58 almost Apr 13 15:59:44 >> I will be really scared, if a similar situation happens to me... << Apr 13 15:59:59 DocScrutinizer05: it possible that difference between n900 and other mobile phone will big? sadly i dont have acces to other n900 to compare, but i try ask about cell tower status also... Apr 13 16:00:21 though probably "I *would*..." is more to the point of what you want to say Apr 13 16:01:03 DocScrutinizer05: was really close ^^ Apr 13 16:01:10 Drathir: difference between different N900 devices? Apr 13 16:02:30 ooh, regarding GPRS Apr 13 16:03:25 DocScrutinizer05: yes between n900 shouldnt be any difference? im right? and how about compare n900 and necond nokia eg. N80 compared data say something to me? Apr 13 16:04:42 yes, data connectivity shouldn't differ much between N900 and other phone type. And not at all between different N900 Apr 13 16:06:21 take care about GSM antenna though - it's on right small side of N900 (in portrait mode), so you holding device with both hands in usual way to type is covering antenna. This often causes connectivity dropouts when I'm in an area with poor signal strength Apr 13 16:08:02 ok i will test and check how it works on other device... on my old rip e51 works perfect all, but that be some time ago, and something could change with cell tower configuration :/ Apr 13 16:10:11 DocScrutinizer05: antenna is on slide side with screen or side with battery place? Apr 13 16:10:28 the latter Apr 13 16:11:26 (cell tower changes) I noticed carriers actually *reducing* 2G support in favour of 3G support Apr 13 16:12:22 nfc what's the rationale behind that. Maybe they recycle some of the components of the 2G BTS ;-) Apr 13 16:13:11 and they might even further reduce 2G support for LTS Apr 13 16:14:05 this for example could mean that 2G BTS will get reduced in TX power to not interfere with nearby LTS cell Apr 13 16:14:58 otoh for RX on same 2G BTS, the nearby LTS cell might cause interference, for same reason Apr 13 16:16:23 so both uplink and downlink of 2G might see deterioration due to nearby LTS cells get installed Apr 13 16:17:27 i'd guess particularly 800MHz is the band prone to that Apr 13 16:18:08 here in Europe we shouldn't have 2G 800MHz band used Apr 13 16:18:22 in USA however... Apr 13 16:19:34 LTS my ass - it even renders home automation systems etc broken, due to interference in the 865MHz band Apr 13 16:19:51 stage wireless microphones as well Apr 13 16:21:31 s/LTS/LTE/gg Apr 13 16:22:25 http://www.heise.de/artikel-archiv/ct/2012/26/025_Hausautomationssystem-ELV-FS20-Probleme-mit-LTE-Routern Apr 13 16:25:52 ftp://ftp.heise.de/pub/ct/listings/1226-025.zip Apr 13 16:27:25 http://www.heise.de/artikel-archiv/ct/2013/06/078_Maerchenwald Apr 13 16:28:21 http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Disput-um-die-Digitale-Dividende-219121.html Apr 13 16:31:08 stage wireless microphone systems as used in operas, theaters, on stage, in TV shows etc, for ~3.5 E9 EUR had to be replaced due to LTE rendering them useless, in Germany Apr 13 16:31:55 3500 million EUR Apr 13 16:33:02 isn't LTE just great? :-s Apr 13 16:33:34 i also heard that the prussian army had to replace swords with guns Apr 13 16:33:41 isn't gunpowder just great? :-s Apr 13 16:33:50 bullshit Apr 13 16:39:38 I heard everybody on earth is supposed to forget honey and use sugar or maple syrup instead, because of monsanto producing a great new insecticide that protects corn fiels much better and allows monsanto to earn millions. Alas it kills bees, but so what? Apr 13 16:40:10 fields* Apr 13 16:40:50 if you're search so diligently for poor analogies Apr 13 16:43:55 DocScrutinizer05: do the LTE specifications require that frequency? Apr 13 16:44:44 LTE specs allow that frequency for LTE, yes. They don't *require* it Apr 13 16:45:45 some gashead failed to specify a proper guard band between the 865MHz security, remote control and wireless bands, and LTE band Apr 13 16:46:22 was that band specifically for wireless audio? Apr 13 16:46:31 or was it just used as such? Apr 13 16:50:18 it been assigned to wireless professional audio Apr 13 16:50:47 then germany dun goof'd Apr 13 16:51:35 Germany? LOL Apr 13 16:51:50 there 900 and 2600MHz try asimilate to lte ? Apr 13 16:52:16 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-UTRA#Frequency_bands_and_channel_bandwidths enjoy Apr 13 16:53:27 DocScrutinizer05: also with 3g or 3.5g will be great... Apr 13 16:58:57 1800MHz for lte taken in poland Apr 13 17:01:13 now orange will be fighting for 800MHz lte... Apr 13 17:02:05 Drathir: the nokia chargers work on my N9, but not my N900 Apr 13 17:06:18 AndrewX192: what is the spec of chargers? Apr 13 17:06:59 Drathir: AC-10U is one of them, came with my N900 Apr 13 17:07:20 i not sure but n900 should need more power to chage when on than nO Apr 13 17:07:49 AndrewX192: try to charge shutdown n900 Apr 13 17:08:21 is any reaction i mean orange light blinking? Apr 13 17:08:30 Drathir: it blinks for a quick second, then stops on the nokia charger Apr 13 17:08:32 kerio: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short-range_device#SRD860 Apr 13 17:09:07 It's certianly getting power with the Nokia charger, just won't operate with it Apr 13 17:10:05 It also won't charge with my battery charger (which has one of those cables that shorts the pins) Apr 13 17:11:53 DocScrutinizer05: orange starting to win licence for 800 and 2600MHz for lte use... 900 and 1800 MHz buy little amount of MHz channels? Apr 13 17:13:46 AndrewX192: you are using powerkernel? bme replacement? Apr 13 17:14:24 2.6.28.10-cssu3 no bme replacement Apr 13 17:14:36 mhm Apr 13 17:14:57 nfc what's that kerne Apr 13 17:15:00 l Apr 13 17:15:21 tbh I never heard of a cssu kernel Apr 13 17:15:27 CSSU thumb probably Apr 13 17:15:44 I set my device up about a year ago, haven't had to rebuild in quite a while Apr 13 17:16:37 AndrewX192: are you sure your USB port is ok? Apr 13 17:16:51 well, if it allows data Apr 13 17:17:02 and charging from PC Apr 13 17:17:02 It charges fine on my computer and data works fine Apr 13 17:17:37 AndrewX192: what charger? Apr 13 17:17:45 sw issue. Reflash to stock Apr 13 17:17:46 the original? Apr 13 17:17:54 freemangordon: AC-10U stock charger with N900 Apr 13 17:18:29 DocScrutinizer05: you sound like you work in MS call centre Apr 13 17:18:41 AndrewX192: did you try with a different charger? Apr 13 17:18:43 I actually feel like that Apr 13 17:18:57 freemangordon: yeah, I have a HP TouchPad charger charging it right now Apr 13 17:19:10 no connectivity issues, the USB port seems stable Apr 13 17:19:15 using the same cable I used with the computer Apr 13 17:19:42 wait, that HP charger works? Apr 13 17:19:46 well, then it might be that the charger connector is giving bad connection Apr 13 17:20:53 AndrewX192: wait, that HP charger works? Apr 13 17:21:02 DocScrutinizer05: yes Apr 13 17:21:18 If I take the same cable and plug it into my portable charger, it won't charge Apr 13 17:21:20 then obviously your AC10 charger is defect Apr 13 17:21:30 :nod: Apr 13 17:21:42 or just giving bad connection Apr 13 17:21:44 you can't plug cable into AC10U Apr 13 17:21:52 it has fixed cable Apr 13 17:22:10 If I plug my N9 into my AC-10U, it charges Apr 13 17:22:24 so what? Apr 13 17:22:41 hmm, AC10-E here Apr 13 17:22:49 and when you plug your iphone to same charger, it most probably won't charge Apr 13 17:22:52 AndrewX192: UK plug? Apr 13 17:23:00 freemangordon: US Apr 13 17:23:26 yeah, the same, I was wondering aboiut that "U" Apr 13 17:23:30 *about Apr 13 17:23:59 I don't understand how my portable charger doesn't work, despite having the same cable Apr 13 17:24:09 AndrewX192: however, seems the charger or charger USB connector is broken Apr 13 17:24:24 AndrewX192: it needs data pins shortened Apr 13 17:24:29 AndrewX192: N900 needs D+- data lines short Apr 13 17:24:33 in charger Apr 13 17:24:48 Not on the 0.6Amp output of the charger, it worked before. Apr 13 17:24:57 meh Apr 13 17:25:10 Let me find the exact cable I used before Apr 13 17:25:47 freemangordon: see? 1st level Apr 13 17:25:57 DocScrutinizer05: :D Apr 13 17:26:11 DocScrutinizer05: but isn't it fun :P ? Apr 13 17:26:25 after a year it starts to get boring Apr 13 17:26:38 hehe Apr 13 17:26:41 after 4 years, you sometimes just CBA Apr 13 17:26:52 or go BOFH Apr 13 17:27:33 Okay, I plugged my N900 into my laptop with the cable I always used with the battery charger, and it charges Apr 13 17:27:48 I can move my N900 and cable around, and it continues to charge, don't see any issues there Apr 13 17:28:13 But if I plug the cable into my battery charger and N900, it won't charge in the 0.6Amp port it charged in before Apr 13 17:28:14 what makes you think your cable was the culprit? Apr 13 17:28:44 DocScrutinizer05: just trying to eliminate possibilities at this point, I've used this charger many times in the past Apr 13 17:29:05 yeah, and eventually everything breaks and falls apart Apr 13 17:29:19 I think there must still be a part of the connector that is not connected to the board Apr 13 17:29:26 AndrewX192: your laptop is USB host, that's why it charges Apr 13 17:29:49 AndrewX192: then better don't think ;-) Apr 13 17:30:27 AndrewX192: n900 kernel detects that USB host and starts charging, limiting the current to 500mA Apr 13 17:30:47 I think the TouchPad charger does some sort of negotation too, because the TouchPad knows if it is being charged with it's original charger too Apr 13 17:30:56 for that to work it needs all 4 relevant / used pind/lines of USB Apr 13 17:31:06 pins* Apr 13 17:31:30 AndrewX192: touchpad charger spec? Apr 13 17:31:32 if data lines are shortened, then n900 kernel "know" it is wall charger and limits the current to 900? mA. Apr 13 17:31:40 *"knows" Apr 13 17:31:41 and no, i'd bet this charger does NO "negotiation" Apr 13 17:32:13 DocScrutinizer05: was it 900 or 800 mA Apr 13 17:32:30 *shrug* let me pull 900 outa my back end Apr 13 17:32:32 Drathir: output = 2.0A @ 5.3V, Part number: 157-10157-00 Apr 13 17:32:45 or even 1000 Apr 13 17:33:05 900 is cell charging current limit iirc Apr 13 17:34:37 AndrewX192: how long does it take for your n9 to charge with AC10? Apr 13 17:35:01 freemangordon: don't remember, I haven't used my N9 in months Apr 13 17:35:16 AndrewX192: I bet it won;t complete at all Apr 13 17:36:13 AFAIK n9/50 start charging with 100 mA limit if connected to dumb charger with no D+- connected Apr 13 17:36:48 the same does (afaik) n900, but only when powered off. DocScrutinizer05 - correct? Apr 13 17:36:59 Just tested USB h-e-n, doesn't look like it provides power anymore Apr 13 17:37:33 freemangordon: should, but not sure about what bme does Apr 13 17:37:39 AndrewX192: are there anything in dmesg? Apr 13 17:37:42 hw does, anyway Apr 13 17:37:42 *is Apr 13 17:37:55 DocScrutinizer05: yep, I meant the HW Apr 13 17:38:09 freemangordon: didn't look, I shut my device down Apr 13 17:38:17 Plugged it into AC-10U, and my device turns on Apr 13 17:38:36 yep, you'll go into act-dead mode Apr 13 17:39:02 yeah, I unplugged it and booted up normally Apr 13 17:39:04 or not, if something messed up, then it might enter active mode Apr 13 17:39:28 AndrewX192: why unplugged it? Apr 13 17:39:50 freemangordon: because last time, it never booted with it plugged in Apr 13 17:39:56 AndrewX192: you can power on without unplugging Apr 13 17:39:57 * DocScrutinizer05 ponders to suggest holdinf the device direction mecca and jumping on one leg Apr 13 17:40:07 what the Apr 13 17:40:20 ooh, does it charge now? Apr 13 17:40:23 Okay, so the first time I plugged it in after booting it started charging, now it just ignores it Apr 13 17:41:20 dmesg: http://pastebin.com/9apMMnHj Apr 13 17:41:21 I'll leave this to the ones that don't suffer 1st-level-burnout yet Apr 13 17:41:45 AndrewX192: could you give the output of "lsmod|grep storage" Apr 13 17:42:05 freemangordon: g_file_storage 25620 0 Apr 13 17:42:22 rx51_set_charger (connected = 0) Apr 13 17:42:54 IIUC your charger D+- connection is broken Apr 13 17:43:17 or unreliable Apr 13 17:43:35 http://pastebin.com/STZhdqzp using slider as dmesg marker Apr 13 17:43:39 AndrewX192: how old is that charger? Apr 13 17:43:51 first one was to unplug, then plugging back in Apr 13 17:44:01 freemangordon: as old as my device (purchased in 2010) Apr 13 17:44:15 It's a revision 2104 device Apr 13 17:45:42 more from dmesg: (not doing anything with the device) http://pastebin.com/9t2rP3Ki Apr 13 17:45:49 IIUC you're nervous or your tk_lock slider switch is broken too Apr 13 17:46:02 AndrewX192: after the point rx51_update_charger_mode (mode = 2) it should charge Apr 13 17:46:29 AndrewX192: your charge is FUBAR, buy another one Apr 13 17:46:33 *charger Apr 13 17:47:19 I'm going to reboot and test the portable charger Apr 13 17:47:27 AndrewX192: why reboot? Apr 13 17:47:45 freemangordon: clean start - I've seen the device get confused and refuse to charge with anything Apr 13 17:47:56 try it before reboot Apr 13 17:48:06 freemangordon: too late :/ Apr 13 17:48:16 *sigh* Apr 13 17:48:20 anyway, device started turning on as soon as charger was turned on Apr 13 17:48:32 so what? Apr 13 17:48:44 but the charger turned off because the device didn't draw enough power Apr 13 17:48:47 and the device turned off too Apr 13 17:48:55 it will nedd ~30s to reach stead act-dead state with charging Apr 13 17:49:04 AndrewX192: what? Apr 13 17:49:11 the WUT? Apr 13 17:49:12 didn;t draw enough power? Apr 13 17:49:16 charger turned off? Apr 13 17:49:20 freemangordon: the charger has auto off Apr 13 17:49:30 omfg Apr 13 17:49:35 I push a button and it turns on, if the device doesn't need to charge, it turns back off Apr 13 17:49:44 BWAHAHAHAHA Apr 13 17:49:45 * freemangordon likes overengineered stuff Apr 13 17:50:11 you're aware that during bootup there's a period when N900 does NOT charge? Apr 13 17:50:29 AndrewX192: boot the device, connect that charger and pastebin dmesg Apr 13 17:50:37 something along those lines, I don't know the exact details Apr 13 17:50:44 freemangordon: kk, doing it now Apr 13 17:51:04 nah, fsck that charger, weld a handle to it to throw it as far as you can Apr 13 17:51:11 :D Apr 13 17:51:14 freemangordon: no output in dmesg Apr 13 17:51:25 did you push the button? Apr 13 17:51:27 :P Apr 13 17:51:34 freemangordon: yes, of course :P Apr 13 17:51:44 does it charge? Apr 13 17:51:54 nope Apr 13 17:52:13 hm, idea: Apr 13 17:52:24 Use the charge-only cable on the computer and see if the device charges Apr 13 17:52:43 AndrewX192: see, this seems to be a dumb charger, n900 won't charge from it Apr 13 17:53:01 freemangordon: it worked until I fixed my USB port :/ Apr 13 17:53:10 AndrewX192: are you sure that charge-only cable does not D+- cabling? Apr 13 17:53:34 AndrewX192: *does not have Apr 13 17:53:44 freemangordon: the cable made charges work that would not work otherwise Apr 13 17:53:45 AndrewX192: wait, your USB port is fixed? Apr 13 17:53:53 wow 2A? O.o mine from rim have 750mA and 5V Apr 13 17:53:54 * DocScrutinizer05 giggles satanically Apr 13 17:54:07 freemangordon: yes, I fixed it yesterday after the device wouldn't charge at all Apr 13 17:54:22 mhm Apr 13 17:54:39 I'm sure the issue is just one of the connections not being fixed Apr 13 17:54:44 and he only fixed the mech posts it seems Apr 13 17:55:01 (the connector did not come off the board, it just only worked with pressure) Apr 13 17:55:14 s/posts/ports/? Apr 13 17:55:23 nah Apr 13 17:55:50 the case levers, the "pins" that have no electrical meaning Apr 13 17:56:03 aah Apr 13 17:56:19 DocScrutinizer05: 2A and 0.6A (8400mAh battery) Apr 13 17:56:29 er, Drathir* Apr 13 17:56:43 AndrewX192: however, there seems to be some HW failure, be it the n900 USB port or the chargers Apr 13 17:56:50 UGH, a battery USB charger Apr 13 17:56:54 OMFG Apr 13 17:57:16 DocScrutinizer05: yes, I have that + 3 extra batteries Apr 13 17:57:31 though most of the other batteries do not last more than an hour Apr 13 17:57:38 DocScrutinizer05: I have an external solar battery, which charges with USB-mini Apr 13 17:57:51 me too Apr 13 17:58:11 ooh, you meant "BL5J battery charger" Apr 13 17:58:17 got it Apr 13 17:58:19 :D Apr 13 17:58:30 The N900 does not charge off my laptop with the "charge-only" cable Apr 13 17:58:30 but I have no issues with charging, and i'd never even ponder to try and diagnose any such problems with anything else than original known-good Nokia charger Apr 13 17:58:48 AndrewX192: see Apr 13 17:59:06 freemangordon: >>2A and 0.6A (8400mAh battery)<< Apr 13 17:59:34 AndrewX192: buy a new AC10, I think it will solve your issues Apr 13 17:59:53 no "charge only" cables work with n900 Apr 13 17:59:59 :nod: Apr 13 18:00:02 yep Apr 13 18:00:19 well then, you're wrong - this cable worked before I fixed the port Apr 13 18:00:28 and the AC10 worked as well Apr 13 18:00:40 then it is not "charge only" (the cable) Apr 13 18:00:42 no, you're wrong Apr 13 18:00:52 The port must've been appropriately broken to always detect charger Apr 13 18:01:01 AndrewX192: do you have a multimeter? Apr 13 18:01:03 Or, the cable is not a charge only cable? Apr 13 18:01:19 since either your N900 been fuckedup before you fixed it, that doesn't mean a charge-only-cable would usually work Apr 13 18:01:31 or you simply got something wrong Apr 13 18:01:37 freemangordon: there's one at the university engineering lab Apr 13 18:01:59 But I'm not there today Apr 13 18:02:01 AndrewX192: I guess you can;t use it now :) Apr 13 18:02:11 however, I am going afk Apr 13 18:02:16 night Apr 13 18:02:27 I just need to find out what to fix on the N900 connector Apr 13 18:02:38 I can fix that next time I'm there Apr 13 18:03:06 * DocScrutinizer05 headdesks a little bit Apr 13 18:03:27 A "Charging only" cable with datalines disconnected or absent, is not supposed to work with N900. If you "fix" that on the connector, you'll lose data communication ability Apr 13 18:03:38 DocScrutinizer05: what are you having problems with Apr 13 18:04:30 ShadowJK: it doesn't mean they didn't do other things with the connectors - they just ignore the provided data connections on the host side Apr 13 18:04:54 It's possible to make a cable like that Apr 13 18:05:04 But I've never seen or heard of one existing Apr 13 18:05:12