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Apr 30 08:06:55 <zammy> however I was terrible in mistake yesterday because after I did my flash... idk why but not soon... but however that flash has deleted all music too has really deleted everything...
Apr 30 08:07:10 <zammy> now I am perfectly starting from zero
Apr 30 10:12:30 <Win7Mac> Moin Jörg, wie werden die Stimmen gewertet, die JA + NEIN gewählt haben?
Apr 30 10:12:53 <Win7Mac> ah... nvw, sorry
Apr 30 10:17:31 <Macer> hm
Apr 30 10:17:52 <Macer> why does the video player keep saying no connection to server when trying to play streamed videos?
Apr 30 10:18:05 <Macer> and why does my camera app keep randomly crashing? :(
Apr 30 10:22:00 <Macer> probably a broken api im sure
Apr 30 10:22:10 <Macer> lord forbid things just keep working
Apr 30 10:22:54 <Macer> cutetube and some other one both dont work
Apr 30 10:33:16 <Macer> none of the youtube clients work :-/
Apr 30 10:33:35 <Macer> awesome interfaces... no functionality
Apr 30 10:37:56 <DocScrutinizer05> Macer: I hope you're not using the cssu-thumb player on a non-thombified kernel
Apr 30 10:38:27 <DocScrutinizer05> frequent crashing would be the expected result
Apr 30 10:39:01 <DocScrutinizer05> for all apps that are thumb but running on a non-thumb kernel
Apr 30 10:39:44 <DocScrutinizer05> video player, camera, flashplayer/videoplayer/mafw (whatever cutetube utilizes)
Apr 30 10:42:03 <XATRIX> Why there're no more updates for KP ? I think N900 it's a good platform to work with. Why CSSU stoped updating ?
Apr 30 11:07:49 <DocScrutinizer05> CSSU never stopped updating. And KP is unrelated to CSSU
Apr 30 11:08:11 <DocScrutinizer05> and KP seen last update max 2 months ago
Apr 30 11:16:05 <sixwheeledbeast> XATRIX: what makes you think both are not "updated"
Apr 30 11:21:30 <XATRIX> sixwheeledbeast: seems like my latest KP kernel built 2012
Apr 30 11:21:54 <XATRIX> hm
Apr 30 11:22:01 <XATRIX> ~kernelpower
Apr 30 11:22:18 <sixwheeledbeast> XATRIX: do you mainly use "Stable" software?
Apr 30 11:22:18 <XATRIX> bot igronres me :)
Apr 30 11:22:27 <XATRIX> Not sure
Apr 30 11:22:45 <sixwheeledbeast> extras-devel repository?
Apr 30 11:23:22 <XATRIX> yeap
Apr 30 11:23:58 <XATRIX> 2.6.28.10-power52
Apr 30 11:24:22 <sixwheeledbeast> yes this is from devel and is only 2 months old!
Apr 30 11:24:56 <XATRIX> 2 month ? 
Apr 30 11:26:02 <sixwheeledbeast> Please note: Extras-devel is "unstable" testing software not "Stable" (if your reading backscroll)
Apr 30 11:26:14 <sixwheeledbeast> yes only 2 months - bleeding edge
Apr 30 11:28:12 <Richlv> heya. on http://maemo.org/support/ , there's a link to "maemo.nokia.com", which seems to be dead
Apr 30 11:29:06 <dimir> wow
Apr 30 11:29:12 <dimir> Richlv: what the fuck are you doing here? :-D
Apr 30 11:29:32 <XATRIX> Possibly i was talking about Uboot :(
Apr 30 11:29:53 <sixwheeledbeast> well since Nokia no longer support and wiki's are old that doesn't suprise me. However it used to redirect to Harmattan i.e. swipe.nokia.com
Apr 30 11:29:53 <dimir> Richlv: why the heck you bother about maemo, you've got n9? :-D
Apr 30 11:30:27 <dimir> It shows exactly how much official support you get for maemo.
Apr 30 11:30:28 <dimir> :-D
Apr 30 11:30:38 <dimir> So, seems legit. :-D
Apr 30 11:31:00 <sixwheeledbeast> I suppose wiki's good do with a Nokia cleaning operation ...
Apr 30 11:35:02 <Richlv> dimir, i'm reporting a broken link, you slow person :>
Apr 30 11:40:28 <dimir> :-D
Apr 30 11:40:56 <sixwheeledbeast> Richlv: thank you, but expect to find most things linking to nokia broken.
Apr 30 12:59:38 <DocScrutinizer05> hey sixwheeledbeast! :-)
Apr 30 12:59:52 <DocScrutinizer05> Win7Mac tried to query you
Apr 30 13:00:04 <DocScrutinizer05> he wants to help on wiki
Apr 30 13:03:14 <DocScrutinizer05> alas he just shreddered his mirc client ;-D
Apr 30 13:03:32 <Win7Mac> ;-)...
Apr 30 15:10:21 <n900-dk> shouldn't voting for MCC start today?
Apr 30 15:15:16 <freemangordon> n900-dk: didn't it start yesterday?
Apr 30 15:16:21 <Win7Mac> it starts today 23:59
Apr 30 15:19:19 <n900-dk> ahh okay, thought 2013-04-30 meant today :)
Apr 30 15:19:57 <Win7Mac> yeah, it's not very clear
Apr 30 15:21:05 <Win7Mac> ...misleading
Apr 30 16:33:42 <keithzg> I'm baffled, I clearly have an account on talk.maemo.org---I'm even logged in right now---but maemo.org itself, I guess the garage, doesn't even think I have a username for which I could reset the password.
Apr 30 16:33:54 * keithzg really WANTS to vote...
Apr 30 16:35:40 <GeneralAntilles> talk.maemo.org accounts are not maemo.org accounts
Apr 30 16:35:55 <GeneralAntilles> You have to register an account at maemo.org
Apr 30 16:36:11 <GeneralAntilles> https://garage.maemo.org/account/register.php
Apr 30 16:37:11 <keithzg> Hmm. But I assume a newly-registered account shan't be eligible to vote, right? At least, that'd seem . . . open to fraud, heh.
Apr 30 16:38:20 <andre__> don't you need a karma of 10 or so?
Apr 30 16:39:02 <sixwheeledbeast> keithzg: yes must be registered 3 months ago, karma was broken so no.
Apr 30 16:41:57 <keithzg> Oh well, I'll register anyways if only so I'm prepared for if this whole Hildon Foundation debacle gets sorted out and things return to working (especially if Jolla actually releases something more---be it a phone or a blob we can run on existing hardware---that we can sink our teeth into).
Apr 30 16:44:33 <n900-dk> keithzg: You think Jolla will do this?
Apr 30 16:47:15 <keithzg> n900-dk: Let me put it this way: neither the N900 nor the N9 were giant consumer successes, but each in their way (hardware+software) lives on today. I definitely think Jolla will come out with *something*, and even if that ends up being short-lived we'll have another contribution to the vague "maemo" ecosystem.
Apr 30 16:48:17 <n900-dk> maybe, let's see if they ever release something :)
Apr 30 16:48:55 * keithzg would be entirely satisfied if Jolla released a device themselves or if they released code that could be made to run on the N9 or Nexus 4 . . . although for the latter, a new Nexus 4 would be needed. Damn breakable glass screens!
Apr 30 17:20:45 <zammy> hey there... does anyone know some clock screensaver similar to nightlight on nokia 5800 for maemo I mean... I want to install some clock screensaver in order to make my n900 look like a clock
Apr 30 17:21:29 <zammy> a digital clock or similar
Apr 30 17:57:26 <kerio> zammy: hm, i don't know of one
Apr 30 17:57:37 <kerio> but it would kinda suck battery, i guess
Apr 30 17:57:43 <kerio> the screen is one of the biggest power draws
Apr 30 18:11:27 <sixwheeledbeast> zammy: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=83682
Apr 30 18:12:58 <sixwheeledbeast> probably don't expect to hit C4 anymore, as mentioned in the thread
Apr 30 18:18:45 <Pali> DocScrutinizer05, maemo.org login still not working
Apr 30 18:19:09 <sixwheeledbeast> Also IIRC there's something that made the notification LED flash the time.
Apr 30 18:19:24 <sixwheeledbeast> Or espeak the time with the camera button.
Apr 30 18:28:11 <zammy> hey thanks sixwheeledbeast I will test it soon
Apr 30 18:28:28 <sixwheeledbeast> np, yw.
Apr 30 18:28:30 <zammy> and what about a nice flashlight as torch you know what I mean right?
Apr 30 18:29:04 <sixwheeledbeast> flashlight is available yes.
Apr 30 18:29:48 <zammy> yes... I have read really in a fast way somewhere googling that there is a app for n900 which works by opening the cover of the camera
Apr 30 18:30:05 <zammy> then it askes if you want just camera or the flash ligh option
Apr 30 18:30:19 <sixwheeledbeast> I use "camera lens launcher", to select between Camera, Flashlight and mBarcode on lens cover open
Apr 30 18:33:01 <zammy> yes
Apr 30 18:33:03 <zammy> that one
Apr 30 19:02:37 <zammy> but sixwheeledbeast 
Apr 30 19:02:45 <sixwheeledbeast> yes
Apr 30 19:02:46 <zammy> for me the cam lens 
Apr 30 19:02:48 <zammy> does not work
Apr 30 19:03:01 <sixwheeledbeast> hardware or the application?
Apr 30 19:03:07 <zammy> app
Apr 30 19:03:26 <sixwheeledbeast> in settings you have to set it correctly.
Apr 30 19:03:48 <sixwheeledbeast> IIRC it's default as default maemo behaviour 
Apr 30 19:04:05 <zammy> I don't get
Apr 30 19:04:17 <zammy> I don't see any cam lens... icon
Apr 30 19:04:22 <zammy> but I have installed it
Apr 30 19:05:11 <sixwheeledbeast> Settings > Extras > Camera Lens Launcher > Opening of lens cover will ...
Apr 30 19:08:33 <zummy> sixwheeledbeast,  it should look like this http://dismantle-it.blogspot.it/2012/07/top-x-essential-nokia-n900-apps-and-more.html
Apr 30 19:09:23 <zummy> oh I got it sixwheeledbeast 
Apr 30 19:09:38 <zummy> I get it by the minitask above
Apr 30 19:10:13 <sixwheeledbeast> :)
Apr 30 19:11:30 <DocScrutinizer05> Pali: midgard still not working
Apr 30 19:12:33 * DocScrutinizer05 counts money, calculates if that's sufficient for a dangerous booze
Apr 30 19:13:49 <sixwheeledbeast> conservative booze instead?
Apr 30 19:14:24 <zummy> but in any case sixwheeledbeast I don't get this http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-NxbUk6p9goU/UBMkKmb2H4I/AAAAAAAAArw/ra9DdaNptF0/s400/Screenshot-20120728-020639.png
Apr 30 19:14:51 <sixwheeledbeast> what are your settings?
Apr 30 19:15:09 <zummy> I don't get any cam settings
Apr 30 19:16:22 <sixwheeledbeast> in here: Settings > Extras > Camera Lens Launcher 
Apr 30 19:16:58 <zummy> ok, I never took that extras since I started to use it lol
Apr 30 19:17:00 <zummy> I try
Apr 30 19:22:43 <zummy> alright done sixwheeledbeast 
Apr 30 19:22:44 <zummy> thanks
Apr 30 19:23:02 <sixwheeledbeast> np.
Apr 30 19:30:58 <Pali> DocScrutinizer05, ok, if you need some help with something, let me know...
Apr 30 19:32:17 <DocScrutinizer05> Pali: appreciated. Indeed we need all help we can get, with the midgard issue you discovered
Apr 30 21:34:44 <sixwheeledbeast> Win7Mac: you rang?
Apr 30 22:15:47 <sixwheeledbeast> Good night all, don't forget voting open in ~2h, maybe update #maemo topic Doc :)
Apr 30 22:16:17 <Win7Mac_> thanks and good nite
Apr 30 22:33:10 <kwtm2> Hi. From the N900 terminal command line (bash or ash or whatever), how do I start a new terminal window?  Preferably something I can do from within a script, if possible.
Apr 30 22:36:24 <kwtm2> seen kwtm
Apr 30 22:37:26 <kwtm2> infobot can you hear me?
Apr 30 22:37:28 <infobot> YES I CAN HEAR YOU!
Apr 30 22:57:25 <DocScrutinizer05> ~seen kwtm
Apr 30 22:57:31 <infobot> kwtm <~kwtm1@c-24-5-190-87.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 31d 7h 34m 29s ago, saying: 'Whew, I was wrong.  I probably thought I swapped the batteries but I didn't. The first N900 is booting okay with the SIM card inside. Never mind, will go nurse my battery. :P'.
May 01 01:30:01 <DocScrutinizer05> Woody14619a: howdy stranger!
May 01 01:31:22 <bef0rd> sup
May 01 01:31:42 <DocScrutinizer05> 'lections
May 01 01:32:00 <bef0rd> I actually had the token in my email sorry for the message .. and received the new one yesterday
May 01 01:32:21 <DocScrutinizer05> np
May 01 01:32:58 <DocScrutinizer05> thanks for voting
May 01 01:33:17 <DocScrutinizer05> see my most recent tip on http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=89926
May 01 01:35:34 <DocScrutinizer05> it's a real pity we weren't able to offer a "[X] sync both MMC and HFC votes" option checkbox on http://maemo.org/vote/
May 01 01:37:18 <DocScrutinizer05> but my dual-window method is almost as good
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