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Jun 06 06:55:33 <sixwheeledbeast> Wizzup_:https://garage.maemo.org/pipermail/extras-cauldron-builds/2013-June/109068.html It's been built but got stuck somewhere, see if other packages come through and then maybe try again.
Jun 06 07:03:18 <sixwheeledbeast> DocScrutinizer05: well it's still editable but not as open as the wiki is what I mean. That page was last updated on 20131231T041018Z. It seems a good idea to update all of that.
Jun 06 07:27:20 <vi__> who the hell would DDOS freenode.
Jun 06 07:27:23 <vi__> ?
Jun 06 07:29:05 <Lava_Croft> 'because they can' ?
Jun 06 08:34:00 <Andy80> impressed to still see so many people  here O_o
Jun 06 08:37:27 <SpeedEvil> Many aren't as active as they once were, for one reason or another.
Jun 06 08:37:31 <SpeedEvil> :/
Jun 06 08:40:30 <vi__> We are waiting.
Jun 06 08:40:51 <vi__> For the year of the Linux desktop!
Jun 06 08:55:03 * SpeedEvil is wondering what Jolla will reveal.
Jun 06 08:55:36 <SpeedEvil> and getting exhausted by pointless stuff like hedge trimming
Jun 06 09:08:48 <rikanee> vi__: the desktop is deprecated, Linux wins anyway
Jun 06 09:18:42 <vi__> desktop depreciated? rofl.
Jun 06 09:21:34 <rikanee> vi__: sent from my Samsung Galaxy S XD Epic 4G IMT LTE Touch Maxx
Jun 06 10:26:49 <vi__> please.  My Symbian phone from 2002 could use IRC.
Jun 06 10:47:31 <Wizzup_> sixwheeledbeast: okay
Jun 06 10:49:50 <Wizzup_> I will try again soon
Jun 06 10:50:59 <vi__> is jolla doing another reveal?
Jun 06 11:02:15 <SpeedEvil> vi__: They haven't actually given full details of the hardware, or what the interface to the 'other half' is - or what the 'special' other half will be.
Jun 06 11:02:47 <SpeedEvil> For example - is the 'other half' - only tied on by NFC, or are there connectors for USB/SATA/PCIe/ISA/...
Jun 06 11:03:43 <rikanee> I demand that the Other Half be connected by PCIe x16 Gen 4.0.
Jun 06 11:07:00 <rikanee> I need to flash a LED at 256GT/s.
Jun 06 11:07:25 <rikanee> Different colors and shades on the trough, rising, peak, and falling edges, you see.
Jun 06 11:11:12 <vi__> I want the other half to have a LGA Socket 478 so I can have a P4 co-processor.
Jun 06 11:20:15 <rikanee> vi__: don't forget your ICH5 with fancy heatsink
Jun 06 11:25:55 <jaska> handwarmer
Jun 06 11:29:08 <kerio> i want a weather station on the back of my jolla phone
Jun 06 11:31:15 <vi__> I want a 2nd jolla phone so I can phone in 3D.
Jun 06 11:56:14 <Wizzup_> ah, hehe
Jun 06 11:56:19 <Wizzup_> need to make a new build ;-)
Jun 06 11:59:23 <Wizzup_> it seems doing the same build again pushed it
Jun 06 11:59:25 <Wizzup_> lol, nice
Jun 06 12:33:51 <kerio> i want a 3d printer as my jolla's other half
Jun 06 12:36:52 <Lava_Croft> hw keyboard please
Jun 06 12:38:03 <kerio> print it!
Jun 06 12:38:51 <Lava_Croft> im too much of a loser to be a hipster
Jun 06 12:59:18 <vi__> There is nothing more hipster than a hw keyboard.
Jun 06 13:00:22 <Lava_Croft> there is, it's called a 3d printer
Jun 06 13:02:00 <vi__> 3d printer now makes you a hipster. eh?
Jun 06 13:02:24 <Lava_Croft> 3d printers are all the rage
Jun 06 13:02:37 <Lava_Croft> especially if you print something with it thats percieved as 'bad'
Jun 06 13:02:43 <Lava_Croft> that will give you a lot of exposure
Jun 06 14:36:12 <DocScrutinizer05> Andy80: long time no see
Jun 06 14:38:47 <Andy80> DocScrutinizer05, you're right
Jun 06 16:01:09 <sixwheeledbeast> infobot still AWOL?
Jun 06 16:01:09 <infobot> i guess awol is Absent WithOut Leave; a military term.
Jun 06 16:01:23 <sixwheeledbeast> oh maybe not
Jun 06 18:38:05 <Win7Mac> Woody14619, did the BoD-meeting somehow happen today?
Jun 06 18:55:31 <sixwheeledbeast> Win7Mac what made you say that I haven't heard anything?
Jun 06 19:00:07 <Win7Mac> sixwheeledbeast, no idea what you mean. Where/when did I say that?
Jun 06 19:01:06 <sixwheeledbeast> BoD-meeting today, was there suppose to be one?
Jun 06 19:05:06 <Win7Mac> ahh... got it now, sorry. This: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1349527#post1349527 basically and some of the following.
Jun 06 19:06:04 <Win7Mac> I didn#t actually expected it to happen, but today ~12:30 - 14:00 was the only offered time window this week.
Jun 06 19:06:54 <sixwheeledbeast> Win7Mac: oic
Jun 06 19:08:51 <Win7Mac> so would a meeting next week be in time for scheduled elects or would that already be too late to confirm the elects?
Jun 06 19:09:41 <Win7Mac> AFAIK, BoD HAS to acknowledge that
Jun 06 19:10:09 <Win7Mac> s/that/elections
Jun 06 19:10:36 <Win7Mac> ~botsnack
Jun 06 19:10:37 <infobot> Win7Mac: aw, gee
Jun 06 20:08:20 <Win7Mac> no bank account or credit card > no paypal in the US. Right or wrong?
Jun 06 20:09:09 <Woody14619> Win7Mac, no.  Jim was unable to attend, and Rob hasn't said a peep since my reply to the nonsense he said on tmo/e-mail.  Generally he's been of the policy that if all directors can't attend then he won't either.
Jun 06 20:09:28 <Woody14619> Win7Mac, yes, PayPal us requires a bank accout or CC to auth against.
Jun 06 20:10:21 <Win7Mac> woody, many thanks
Jun 06 20:10:52 <sixwheeledbeast> That policy is balls, no wonder nothing appears to get done...
Jun 06 20:11:13 <Win7Mac> and the treasurer is only for bank accout or CC?
Jun 06 20:11:21 <Win7Mac> or for paypal too
Jun 06 20:11:21 <sixwheeledbeast> there should be a meeting if >50% are available
Jun 06 20:11:22 <Woody14619> It's part of why there have only been 2 meetings in the past 6 months.
Jun 06 20:11:58 <Win7Mac> any chance for meeting IN TIME to ack elects?
Jun 06 20:13:18 <Woody14619> There may not been a need.  Technically, a majority of directors need only inform the secretary of an action for it to count, even outside of a meeting.  (Been brushing up on PA law:  http://www.legis.state.pa.us/WU01/LI/LI/CT/HTM/15/00.017.027.000..HTM
Jun 06 20:16:56 <Win7Mac> sounds promissing, hope it's not "otherwise provided or restricted in the bylaws"
Jun 06 20:18:00 <Win7Mac> and MANY THANKS for investigating on this. sorry you have to kill time with this shit
Jun 06 20:29:19 <Win7Mac> so is it safe to say "elects have to be acknowledged by BoD majority"?
Jun 06 20:38:49 <Win7Mac> ofc it is
Jun 06 21:31:00 * sixwheeledbeast sighs quietly 
Jun 06 21:31:32 <Win7Mac> why
Jun 06 21:32:09 <Win7Mac> know you just read my post
Jun 06 21:34:20 <Win7Mac> partly OT, but that guy is obnoxious
Jun 06 21:36:57 <sixwheeledbeast> no not you Win7Mac :)
Jun 06 21:37:07 <Win7Mac> oh, glad to hear
Jun 06 21:37:12 <sixwheeledbeast> more autobuilder madness
Jun 06 21:37:19 <Win7Mac> err... not sure ;)
Jun 06 21:37:41 <Win7Mac> yeah, heard of that
Jun 06 21:37:54 <sixwheeledbeast> no, there is more autobuilder issues hence :sigh:
Jun 06 21:39:04 <sixwheeledbeast> It currently seems stuck and no packages coming through (unconfirmed), also still finding packages running up huge log files.
Jun 06 21:39:37 <Wizzup_> sixwheeledbeast: I can confirm that my packages are not going into the actual repo (according to m.o/packages), but when I pushed my build *again* (same build version), it did make a dev
Jun 06 21:39:41 <Wizzup_> a deb*
Jun 06 21:40:29 <sixwheeledbeast> there successfully built but not ending up in the repository, correct?
Jun 06 21:40:47 <sixwheeledbeast> That what I seem to see here.
Jun 06 21:40:58 <Wizzup_> I think so. https://garage.maemo.org/pipermail/extras-cauldron-builds/2013-June/thread.html (my package is uinput-mapper)
Jun 06 21:41:39 <Wizzup_> you can see that when I re-build build 1 it actually made a deb
Jun 06 21:41:43 <Wizzup_> Or at least copied the old one, maybe
Jun 06 21:53:50 <sixwheeledbeast> Wizzup_: yep cellnet-info and gcompris are the same. build OK, queued for repo, but no package materialized.
Jun 06 21:58:18 <Wizzup_> okay
Jun 06 21:58:44 <Wizzup_> also, I asked about this the other day, pulseaudio - it seemed it got fixed (at least in the git repo) to work with newer pulse clients/servers, but when I last tried it (cssu testing), it didn't seem to work.
Jun 06 21:58:59 <Wizzup_> How hard would it be to find out if that pulse version (2012,dec or something) has been uploaded to the repo yet
Jun 06 21:59:08 <Wizzup_> I saw something in the cssu changes about pulse, but it didn't mention fixing that bug
Jun 06 21:59:19 <Wizzup_> (I'd really, love, love to see this work)
Jun 06 22:01:41 <kerio> iirc it was just a version string mismatch
Jun 06 22:03:33 <Wizzup_> yes, but it's not in the repo yet
Jun 06 22:03:39 <Wizzup_> and I'd really like it to be in there
Jun 06 22:03:40 <Wizzup_> :)
Jun 06 22:03:58 <Wizzup_> or rather, when I tried something with PULSE_SERVER="foo" mplayer bar.quux it didn't work
Jun 06 22:04:11 <Wizzup_> that was a few days ago
Jun 06 22:11:09 <DocScrutinizer05> ~ping
Jun 06 22:11:10 <infobot> ~pong
Jun 06 22:12:15 <sixwheeledbeast> ~wiff
Jun 06 22:12:24 <sixwheeledbeast> :(
Jun 06 22:19:27 <DocScrutinizer05> ~wuff
Jun 06 22:19:39 <DocScrutinizer05> ~bite sixwheeledbeast
Jun 06 22:19:39 * infobot takes a big bite out of sixwheeledbeast's jugular vein
Jun 06 22:20:12 <sixwheeledbeast> the correct response to wiff is waff infobot
Jun 06 22:20:36 <DocScrutinizer05> SIXTEEN mb/s down! new uplink! YEAH
Jun 06 22:21:21 * infobot smacks sixwheeledbeast on the face. then offers a towel
Jun 06 22:22:22 <sixwheeledbeast> try living with 261kbps :( and bleeding to death from the neck
Jun 06 22:23:01 <sixwheeledbeast> at least I was offered a towel to mop up :)
Jun 06 22:23:16 <DocScrutinizer05> my network topology gets confusing
Jun 06 22:23:50 <DocScrutinizer05> got a router 192.168.4.x over a router 192.168.178.x
Jun 06 22:24:16 <DocScrutinizer05> STUN/ICE starts to become real fun
Jun 06 22:24:51 <DocScrutinizer05> saturn:/home # traceroute 8.8.8.8
Jun 06 22:24:53 <DocScrutinizer05> traceroute to 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets using UDP
Jun 06 22:24:54 <DocScrutinizer05>  1  192.168.4.1 (192.168.4.1)  0.885 ms   0.801 ms   0.862 ms
Jun 06 22:24:55 <DocScrutinizer05>  2  192.168.178.1 (192.168.178.1)  1.854 ms   2.354 ms   1.933 ms
Jun 06 22:25:47 <Win7Mac> aha...
Jun 06 22:25:47 <DocScrutinizer05> and don't ask me about DHCP
Jun 06 22:26:17 <DocScrutinizer05> just so much: fritz.box doesn't work
Jun 06 22:26:51 <DocScrutinizer05> or: I'm behind TWO NATs now
Jun 06 22:27:44 <DocScrutinizer05> and luckily my local router has fixed DNS addr to deliver via DHCP
Jun 06 22:38:45 <Win7Mac> anybody get an up-to-date log here?: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2013-06-06.log.html
Jun 06 23:01:04 <DocScrutinizer05> winwhat's the problem?
Jun 06 23:01:15 <DocScrutinizer05> MEH!!!
Jun 06 23:01:26 <Wizzup_> heh
Jun 06 23:02:25 <DocScrutinizer05> I want a LOUD beep when tab-nick-completion fails
Jun 06 23:02:29 <DocScrutinizer05> Wizzup_: heh!
Jun 06 23:03:11 <Wizzup_> ¡
Jun 06 23:03:20 <DocScrutinizer05> https://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/latest.log.html FTW
Jun 06 23:03:49 * DocScrutinizer05 *frowns* at www ganglia
Jun 06 23:04:02 <Wizzup_> soooo any idea about the pulseaudio Q?
Jun 06 23:04:15 <Wizzup_> I'm playing with dpkg to find out how recent my installed pulse (on n900) is
Jun 06 23:04:26 <Wizzup_> but maybe I should check the cssu package, and see when it was build
Jun 06 23:04:37 <Wizzup_> wiki.maemo.org seems slow atm
Jun 06 23:09:39 <DocScrutinizer05> downformeoreverybody www.maemo.org?
Jun 06 23:10:46 <Wizzup_> It's not down, it's just super slow :) 
Jun 06 23:11:17 <DocScrutinizer05> :-o
Jun 06 23:11:36 <Wizzup_> I'm trying to figure out how I can find out if this pulse has the patch or not... but I'm not THAT familiar with apt/dpkg
Jun 06 23:12:31 <Pali> Wizzup_: $ apt-cache policy pulseaudio
Jun 06 23:12:49 <DocScrutinizer05> I'm trying to figure out if somebody stole our I7 CPUs and replaced it by a 8951
Jun 06 23:12:49 <Pali> or: $ dpkg -l pulseaudio
Jun 06 23:12:54 <Wizzup_> yeah - I got as far as to get the version
Jun 06 23:13:13 <Wizzup_> now I just need to find out if whoever build the cssu pulseaudio (and when) included the patch
Jun 06 23:13:29 <Wizzup_> show and showpkg also don't seem to show dates
Jun 06 23:13:46 <Pali> cssu pulseaudio version is here: https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/pulseaudio
Jun 06 23:13:52 <Wizzup_> yes. I have seen that
Jun 06 23:13:58 <Pali> check for version number
Jun 06 23:13:59 <Wizzup_> but I don't think the latest commit in there is also in the cssu
Jun 06 23:14:11 <DocScrutinizer05> sth is terribly odd with our server
Jun 06 23:14:19 <Wizzup_> Pali: What do you mean, version number?
Jun 06 23:14:22 <Pali> https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/pulseaudio/blobs/master/debian/changelog
Jun 06 23:14:22 <DocScrutinizer05> *TERRIBLY* odd
Jun 06 23:14:40 <Wizzup_> Pali: I see!
Jun 06 23:14:43 <Pali> Wizzup_: apt-cache or dpkg will show you version number of pulse package
Jun 06 23:14:44 <Wizzup_> So it's not yet in cssu.
Jun 06 23:14:51 <DocScrutinizer05> wiki.m.o slow like old shit
Jun 06 23:14:55 <Wizzup_> (cssu1 is installed, needs at least cssu3)
Jun 06 23:15:06 <DocScrutinizer05> www.m.o "dead"
Jun 06 23:15:19 <Wizzup_> Who would I bug to get it included? :) 
Jun 06 23:15:25 <DocScrutinizer05> monitor.m.o tells me mail.m.o has load spike
Jun 06 23:15:38 <Pali> Wizzup_: which patch?
Jun 06 23:15:52 <Wizzup_> Pali: commit 5b6b484
Jun 06 23:16:12 <DocScrutinizer05> blade-a at load=5
Jun 06 23:16:29 <Wizzup_> Pali: When I said included, I meant get the .deb in the cssu repos
Jun 06 23:16:36 <Wizzup_> (the newer one)
Jun 06 23:16:45 <DocScrutinizer05> (not that blade-a couldn't handle loads up to 12)
Jun 06 23:17:02 <DocScrutinizer05> (but rarely ever seen it have loads >2)
Jun 06 23:17:24 <Wizzup_> DocScrutinizer05: perhaps the io is being killed by a backup?
Jun 06 23:17:40 <Pali> Wizzup_: last version is in cssu-devel
Jun 06 23:17:41 <DocScrutinizer05> backupPC is known load
Jun 06 23:17:49 <DocScrutinizer05> it looks fairly different
Jun 06 23:17:51 <Wizzup_> Pali: ah, cssu-devel? I have not read about that yet>
Jun 06 23:17:52 <Pali> new version of cssu-testing should be there ASAP
Jun 06 23:18:01 <Wizzup_> Pali: ah, you just pushed it? :) 
Jun 06 23:18:05 <Pali> also with pulseaudio
Jun 06 23:18:16 <Pali> Wizzup_: ask merlin1991
Jun 06 23:18:45 <Pali> he is responsible for cssu-testing repo
Jun 06 23:19:53 <Pali> Wizzup_: if you want to break your device, look at cssu-devel repo at TMO thread: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=84292
Jun 06 23:20:03 <Wizzup_> I like breaking devices
Jun 06 23:21:53 <Pali> Wizzup_: are you going to use network sound card via pulseaudio, so you need that patch?
Jun 06 23:22:35 <Wizzup_> yes, I want to play with networked pulseaudio
Jun 06 23:23:30 <Wizzup_> Pali: why? something I need to know?
Jun 06 23:23:54 <Pali> no, just asking :-) Last time when I played with that patches it worked...
Jun 06 23:24:07 <Wizzup_> great
Jun 06 23:24:13 <Wizzup_> I've been wanting to this for years :) 
Jun 06 23:24:14 <Pali> so I included them to cssu
Jun 06 23:24:26 <Wizzup_> I'll check testing tomorrow
Jun 06 23:25:05 <Pali> but pulseaudio does not have audio compression, so it is not ideal...
Jun 06 23:25:53 <Pali> I tried to route audio from notebook via wifi to n900 and then from n900 to bluetooth headset... and there was big delay
Jun 06 23:26:32 <Pali> (n900 act as audio mixer for my bluetooth headset)
Jun 06 23:27:17 <merlin1991> Wizzup_: Pali I've uploaded the new testing today, but it failed to import because the repo machine had problems
Jun 06 23:27:37 <Pali> ah :-(
Jun 06 23:28:13 <Wizzup_> Pali: well, I found that pretty much all the delay with audio comes from bluetooth
Jun 06 23:28:24 <Wizzup_> pulse over network (wired and wireless) was not noticable for me
Jun 06 23:28:34 <Wizzup_> I had a networked pulse sink for most of a year
Jun 06 23:28:50 <Wizzup_> merlin1991: :/ I see
Jun 06 23:29:34 <Wizzup_> perhaps with n900 wireless it is more noticable - I don't know
Jun 06 23:30:05 <merlin1991> Wizzup_: i might get the release in now
Jun 06 23:30:06 <Pali> my bluetooth adapter in notebook is totally crapy... so I tried to use n900 bluetooth which has very good
Jun 06 23:30:11 <Wizzup_> merlin1991: pls let me know :) 
Jun 06 23:30:21 <Wizzup_> Pali: yes, but in general bt is just *slow* isn't it?
Jun 06 23:30:41 <Wizzup_> I recall having a jack splitter with two headphones attached to it, one over bt
Jun 06 23:30:54 <Wizzup_> friend and I sang together, and the guy with a bt headphone was ~0.5s behind
Jun 06 23:31:15 <Wizzup_> I'm just saying, it's most likely mostly the bt that's slow, but it's only an educated guess
Jun 06 23:32:17 <Pali> right, bluetooth is slow, but for unknown reason my notebook bluetooth is super slow
Jun 06 23:32:28 <Wizzup_> ah
Jun 06 23:32:50 <Pali> and has smaller active distance for headset
Jun 06 23:32:54 <Wizzup_> well, for my netbook I had to spend a good amount of hours on the internet to find out I had to enable the radio... or something. otherwise it wouldn't scan anything
Jun 06 23:33:02 <Wizzup_> took me some obscure command to get it to work at all
Jun 06 23:33:03 <Wizzup_> :)
Jun 06 23:33:36 <Pali> if I connect headset to n900, I have signal in all rooms...
Jun 06 23:34:07 <Pali> but if I connect to notebook, connection is disconnected if I go 4-5 meters away...
Jun 06 23:34:47 <Wizzup_> heh
Jun 06 23:35:01 <Pali> Wizzup_: is there some obscure command for fixing that stupid bluetooth?
Jun 06 23:35:16 <Wizzup_> Pali: was pretty specific for this machine + card
Jun 06 23:35:17 <Pali> I'm sure problem is in notebook bluetooth, because with n900 headset working fine
Jun 06 23:35:29 <Wizzup_> but perhaps you can see if you can increase the strength/power
Jun 06 23:35:46 <Pali> it is possible to increase power?
Jun 06 23:36:03 <Pali> some linux bt.* program?
Jun 06 23:36:25 <Pali> or hci.*?
Jun 06 23:37:20 <Wizzup_> it probably depends on the driver/card etc :) 
Jun 06 23:37:34 <Wizzup_> I'd saw find card name + driver and search for weak signal
Jun 06 23:37:36 <Pali> some broadcom usb
Jun 06 23:37:39 <Wizzup_> saw&
Jun 06 23:37:40 <Wizzup_> say**
Jun 06 23:37:56 <Wizzup_> although, it's ~5m normal for bluetooth?
Jun 06 23:38:10 <Wizzup_> s/it's/isn't/
Jun 06 23:38:11 <infobot> Wizzup_ meant: although, isn't ~5m normal for bluetooth?
Jun 06 23:38:14 <Wizzup_> I should go to bed ;-)
Jun 06 23:47:57 <DocScrutinizer05> ok, since nobody missin maemo.org, we'll shit it down today
Jun 06 23:48:15 <DocScrutinizer05> shut, but no difference
Jun 06 23:56:36 <Wizzup_> DocScrutinizer05: what do you mean nobody missing? :) 
Jun 06 23:56:53 <Wizzup_> it seems to work again...
Jun 06 23:57:49 <DocScrutinizer05> yeah, *I* fixed it. 60s ago
Jun 06 23:58:51 <Wizzup_> :-) what was the problem?
Jun 06 23:59:38 <DocScrutinizer05> somebody configured varnish on www
Jun 07 00:00:09 <DocScrutinizer05> somebody configured varnish on www
Jun 07 00:00:11 <DocScrutinizer05> so apache found port 80 occupied
Jun 07 00:00:16 <Wizzup_> heh
Jun 07 00:01:06 <DocScrutinizer05> root@www1:/var/log/apache2/2013/06# /etc/init.d/varnish stop
Jun 07 00:01:07 <DocScrutinizer05>  * Stopping HTTP accelerator varnishd                                                  [ OK ] 
Jun 07 00:01:09 <DocScrutinizer05> root@www1:/var/log/apache2/2013/06# /etc/init.d/apache2 start
Jun 07 00:01:10 <DocScrutinizer05>  * Starting web server apache2                                                                                                                                                                
Jun 07 00:01:27 <DocScrutinizer05> *temporarily* fixed it (until next bood, or whatever event)
Jun 07 00:02:12 <DocScrutinizer05> hell, what's wrong with woody
Jun 07 00:02:38 <DocScrutinizer05> Woody14619: you're nervous?
Jun 07 00:03:22 <DocScrutinizer05> ** RECOVERY Service Alert: www.maemo.org/HTTP is OK **
Jun 07 00:03:41 <DocScrutinizer05> Date/Time: Fri Jun 7 01:59:49 CEST 2013
Jun 07 00:05:08 <DocScrutinizer05> I honestly want ~82578247248978478924789247897 times the payment I got now for that job
Jun 07 00:05:26 <DocScrutinizer05> wait, that's still zilch
Jun 07 00:08:27 <DocScrutinizer05> FFS
Jun 07 00:09:04 <DocScrutinizer05> restarted ganglia
Jun 07 00:09:59 <DocScrutinizer05> http://monitor.maemo.org/ganglia/?r=hour&cs=&ce=&m=load_one&s=by+name&c=maemo&h=&host_regex=&max_graphs=0&tab=m&vn=&sh=2&z=small&hc=4 looks better now
Jun 07 01:11:10 <merlin1991> Wizzup_: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1350130#post1350130
Jun 07 01:25:00 <HtheB> anyone alive?>
Jun 07 01:25:06 <HtheB> seems like I found some easter egg 
Jun 07 01:25:10 <HtheB> on the N900
Jun 07 01:25:23 <HtheB> dont have a clue what it is for though
Jun 07 01:25:36 <merlin1991> ...
Jun 07 01:25:47 <HtheB> go to Settings
Jun 07 01:25:49 <HtheB> About product
Jun 07 01:25:59 <HtheB> then press repeatedly on the screen
Jun 07 01:26:12 <HtheB> 11-12 times
Jun 07 01:26:15 <HtheB> then a new screen pops up
Jun 07 01:26:23 <HtheB> with some information.
Jun 07 01:26:27 <merlin1991> filled with the output io ifconfig
Jun 07 01:26:29 <merlin1991> nice find
Jun 07 01:26:46 <HtheB> why did they hide it? i rly donno
Jun 07 01:28:09 <HtheB> there were easter eggs on the N9 too
Jun 07 01:28:14 <HtheB> same as this one
Jun 07 01:28:23 <HtheB> someone should try it out on older Maemo devices
Jun 07 01:28:32 <HtheB> to see if there are easter eggs too over there
Jun 07 01:29:31 <merlin1991> what did you find on the n9?
Jun 07 01:29:46 <HtheB> new features
Jun 07 01:29:49 <HtheB> go to the settings
Jun 07 01:29:50 <HtheB> About
Jun 07 01:30:06 <HtheB> and tap on the nokia logo
Jun 07 01:30:08 <HtheB> repeatedly
Jun 07 01:30:12 <HtheB> also like 15 times
Jun 07 01:30:41 <HtheB> a pop up messages shows Easter eggs on
Jun 07 01:30:45 <merlin1991> then it says Easter eggs turned on :D
Jun 07 01:30:49 <HtheB> exactly :D
Jun 07 01:31:01 <merlin1991> and it shows the wlan0 ip
Jun 07 01:31:07 <HtheB> yes, but also:
Jun 07 01:31:10 <HtheB> there are new things
Jun 07 01:31:13 <HtheB> like  Swipe down to close app in Display setting - but seem no use
Jun 07 01:31:25 <HtheB> New setting in wallpaper selection
Jun 07 01:31:36 <HtheB> new wallpaper
Jun 07 01:31:38 <HtheB> added
Jun 07 01:31:52 <HtheB> also, you can now ZOOM and even ROTATE your wallpaper when selecting it
Jun 07 01:33:04 <merlin1991> how did you find it?
Jun 07 01:33:21 <HtheB> i didnt find that one though
Jun 07 01:33:27 <HtheB> http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90166
Jun 07 01:33:35 <HtheB> but i was just wondering if the same happens for n900 too
Jun 07 01:33:38 <HtheB> seems like it is :D
Jun 07 01:34:00 <HtheB> im wondering if the same happens for n8XX
Jun 07 01:34:03 <HtheB> and even the 7 serie
Jun 07 01:56:03 <HtheB> nite all
Jun 07 02:08:48 <DocScrutinizer05> yummmy   easter eggs
Jun 07 02:10:50 * DocScrutinizer05 pukes on easter eggs in HARM
Jun 07 02:12:40 * DocScrutinizer05 is busy keepoing maemo.org alive
Jun 07 02:13:55 <DocScrutinizer05> probably I just should shut it down
Jun 07 02:15:23 <DocScrutinizer05> I just wondered a 40mon ago: 60,000 maemo device, users
Jun 07 02:16:11 <DocScrutinizer05> if everyone of them would spend 10 € ct / month for me keeping infra alive
Jun 07 02:17:39 <DocScrutinizer05> I'm tempted to go "here's my finger, you know what you can do to maemo.org"
Jun 07 02:18:17 <DocScrutinizer05> 19h/day for fixing shit on maemo.org
Jun 07 02:18:26 <DocScrutinizer05> unbearable
Jun 07 02:19:44 <DocScrutinizer05> I honestly wonder if 10 or 20 days without *.m.o would change a thing
Jun 07 02:20:00 <DocScrutinizer05> n8
Jun 07 02:25:44 <DocScrutinizer05> 60000 active devices, 95 who voted on elections, 9 maintainers, 2 sysops
Jun 07 02:26:55 <DocScrutinizer05> sorry poeple, what you paid to own a n900 has expired and is void since 2 years
Jun 07 02:33:29 <DocScrutinizer05> either you volunteer to help administrate *.m.o, or you pay 20ct/month for fulltime admins, or you accept *.m.o going offline
Jun 07 02:35:11 <T7g> So nice to see this channel so full after all these years.
Jun 07 02:36:54 <DocScrutinizer05> this channel means nuttin
Jun 07 02:37:38 <DocScrutinizer05> and it's close to goinf <200 users
Jun 07 02:37:50 <DocScrutinizer05> going*
Jun 07 02:39:06 <DocScrutinizer05> *.m.o however gave me another really bad day, and I like to keep it alive but I know I can't sustain this and nobody will take over
Jun 07 02:40:10 <DocScrutinizer05> I had a really awful 48h
Jun 07 02:41:52 <oldtopman> Sorry to hear that :(
Jun 07 02:42:04 <T7g> I pre-ordered my n900, and still use it to this day- tho no longer as a phone.
Jun 07 02:42:51 * oldtopman has an n900 en-route
Jun 07 02:43:36 <T7g> a friend of mine bought one about two months ago because of the packet injection capabilities
Jun 07 02:43:48 <T7g> it may come with a dead battery, but you can still charge it with an external charger
Jun 07 02:43:55 <T7g> the n900 cannot charge if the bat gets too low
Jun 07 02:45:05 * oldtopman didn't know that
Jun 07 02:45:33 <T7g> friend didn't either, all the units still boxed from back then's batteries generally lost charge
Jun 07 02:45:42 <T7g> and the n900 can't switch to charge mode without enough power
Jun 07 02:45:44 <DocScrutinizer05> (the n900 cannot charge if the bat gets too low) an urban legend
Jun 07 02:45:53 <T7g> Not true
Jun 07 02:45:58 <DocScrutinizer05> and not true
Jun 07 02:46:17 <ecc2g> You have to have a *good* charger to charge when dead, at least what I've found.
Jun 07 02:46:35 <T7g> his was standard n900 boxed charger
Jun 07 02:46:39 <DocScrutinizer05> ~flatbatrecover
Jun 07 02:46:41 <infobot> Remove battery for 1 minute. Insert battery. Plug powered ***NOKIA WALLCHARGER*** to device. Watch steady amber. Let sit and charge. Do NOT try to boot. After 30 min, you got either a) a booted up N900, b) flashing amber which means you can boot, c) steady amber going off - in this case start over again with ~flatbatrecover
Jun 07 02:46:41 <ecc2g> The original nokia charger I have is broken after all these years
Jun 07 02:47:09 <oldtopman> DocScrutinizer05: How does stuff break ona website? I've always wondered.
Jun 07 02:47:17 <oldtopman> Just someone to clean the spam?
Jun 07 02:47:21 <T7g> I thought the SOC had to have enough power to switch to charging mode
Jun 07 02:47:21 <DocScrutinizer05> they are 4.80 in the internets
Jun 07 02:47:39 <ecc2g> if you have a good working charger (more likely, a good micro USB plug on the charger) it *will* charge when dead.
Jun 07 02:48:02 <DocScrutinizer05> yes
Jun 07 02:48:32 <DocScrutinizer05> unless you fucked up your root file system
Jun 07 02:48:34 <T7g> hmm, well thanks for the info- he had to use a battery charger and not the phone itself to get it to boot
Jun 07 02:48:42 <T7g> Oh I have def fucked up my root FS personally.
Jun 07 02:49:12 <T7g> from day one I wasn't comfortable with the biggest partition being fat32
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