**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jun 10 02:59:58 2013 Jun 10 06:58:28 hi is the problem with cssu testing fixed ? Jun 10 07:53:01 hi Jun 10 08:03:29 somebody here Jun 10 08:43:18 I got problems with cssu Jun 10 08:43:36 after installing n9000 dont turn on again Jun 10 09:05:31 hardo: remove SD card, attach charger and try again Jun 10 09:11:35 omg I forgot to press "u" while flashing... is that a problem ? Jun 10 09:51:46 pali thank you Jun 10 09:51:52 IT WORKED :D Jun 10 09:53:16 I send you a KISS :D Jun 10 09:55:36 after flashing and installing cssu testing, I have to update the kernel to 52 Jun 10 09:56:06 is that i have to activate the repositori and then update with ham Jun 10 10:02:07 oh shit do I have to install kernel-power-52 before the cssu ? Jun 10 10:09:15 "Kernel-power version v52 is now in Extras-Devel!" does that means I have to activate the cssu (devel) repositori ? Jun 10 10:24:52 you should not have to do anything besides install the CSSU to make the CSSU function Jun 10 10:28:49 hardo: You need to enable Extras-Devel repository, not CSSU-Devel ! Jun 10 10:29:09 ~extras-devel Jun 10 10:29:10 well, extras-devel is http://wiki.maemo.org/Extras-devel Jun 10 10:33:43 hmm Jun 10 10:33:45 so Jun 10 10:33:58 i need to do a new repository ? Jun 10 10:34:32 where can i find the extra devel Jun 10 10:35:22 ok i read :) Jun 10 11:02:15 repository is added Jun 10 11:09:58 Hi all, is it still possible to create new packages for Maemo 5 and have them added to repos? Jun 10 12:25:32 edheldil: yes Jun 10 12:26:26 edheldil: extras-devel still accepting packages for maemo5, maemo4 and for maemo on 770 Jun 10 12:33:45 Pali: thanks .. I should finally push my stupid little game out of the door Jun 10 12:33:57 :-) Jun 10 12:34:17 use scp/dput method, I do not know if web based uploader working... Jun 10 12:34:41 I will study the docs Jun 10 13:56:21 hey people Jun 10 13:56:50 did somebody test the dropbox client and yappari ? Jun 10 13:57:07 how do the work and are they easy to install ? Jun 10 15:33:07 hi everyone, I'm flashing my n900 right now but something seems to have gone wrong Jun 10 15:33:15 would anybody help me out please? Jun 10 15:33:45 ~ask Jun 10 15:33:46 Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Don't ask if a person is there; just ask what you intended to ask them. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. We are all here voluntarily or against our will. Jun 10 15:33:49 the flasher started uploading my vanilla but got stuck at 20%, win 7 64bit Jun 10 15:34:16 my nokia has been looking like booting since then Jun 10 15:34:20 but it's stuck Jun 10 15:34:36 ~flashing Jun 10 15:34:37 somebody said maemo-flashing was http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware Jun 10 15:34:37 may it be the 32bit/64bit issue? Jun 10 15:34:46 I read it through Jun 10 15:35:00 hmm, ok Jun 10 15:35:09 did you try on a different PC? Jun 10 15:35:12 and had the "no suitable device found" problem, I solved it thanks to that guide Jun 10 15:35:22 not yet, because I have same OS on the other pc Jun 10 15:35:27 worth a try anyway? Jun 10 15:35:52 you'd better download some linux image(32 bit), boot to it and flash from there Jun 10 15:36:06 but yeah, trying on the other PC will be faster Jun 10 15:37:12 GogoPogo: did you try different USB port? Jun 10 15:37:23 not really Jun 10 15:37:41 should I take away the batter from my N900? Jun 10 15:37:49 battery Jun 10 15:37:56 while flashing? no Jun 10 15:38:06 it's stuck at NOKIA logo Jun 10 15:38:14 no USB logo on the right either Jun 10 15:38:28 aah Jun 10 15:38:33 well then: Jun 10 15:38:40 1. remove the battery Jun 10 15:38:48 2. connect USB cable Jun 10 15:38:55 3. start the flasher Jun 10 15:39:11 4. press and hold 'u' key on n900 Jun 10 15:39:36 5. but the battery back, while still holding 'u' Jun 10 15:39:59 6. it should start flashing at some point, release the 'u' key Jun 10 15:40:06 GogoPogo: ^^^ Jun 10 15:40:32 again 20% then stops Jun 10 15:40:40 GogoPogo: pt 5, read "put", not "but" Jun 10 15:40:50 what flaser says? Jun 10 15:40:54 *flasher Jun 10 15:41:33 [init 20% 30720/255947 kB 11650 kB/s] Jun 10 15:41:36 nothing else Jun 10 15:42:09 GogoPogo: try another USB cable, port Jun 10 15:42:51 if it does not help, try on another PC Jun 10 15:43:01 is still cannot flash, try under linux ;) Jun 10 15:45:00 jeez, tried on another port, looks like stuck anyway Jun 10 15:45:34 (the flasher) Jun 10 15:46:35 and again, 20%! Jun 10 15:47:50 I'll try on UBUNTU.. since upload was started my phone is currently bricked right? Jun 10 15:48:09 it is not really "bricked" you just need to flash it Jun 10 15:48:19 yes, its a brick atm Jun 10 15:48:29 DAMN :( Jun 10 15:48:42 ok I expected it Jun 10 15:48:47 GogoPogo: make sure to use 32 bit linux Jun 10 15:48:56 live cd is ok? Jun 10 15:48:59 yep Jun 10 15:49:17 usb 3.0 is ok? Jun 10 15:49:27 no idea Jun 10 15:49:39 GogoPogo: do you have USB hub? Jun 10 15:49:58 I have both USB 2.0 and USB 3.0 port on my laptop Jun 10 15:50:12 i'll go for 2.0 with an old ubuntu distro which is 32bit Jun 10 15:50:17 do you have external USB hub? Jun 10 15:50:22 GogoPogo: wait Jun 10 15:50:30 ok Jun 10 15:50:32 did you try on that 2.0 port? Jun 10 15:50:55 yes, first with a computer case built-on usb 2.0 port Jun 10 15:51:00 ok Jun 10 15:51:01 then a motherboard 2.0 port Jun 10 15:51:20 now I'll use my laptop so I can chat with you in the meanwhile Jun 10 15:51:30 ok, try live cd Jun 10 15:51:45 flasher on windows7 is awesome because for me it works fine Jun 10 15:51:51 but its so shit because for a lot of folks it just doesnt Jun 10 15:52:19 flasher on linux is gettable by terminal? Jun 10 15:52:53 err, as in wget? Jun 10 15:53:28 appget Jun 10 15:53:43 I hadn't planned to do this on linux Jun 10 15:54:05 I'm still configuring my eth0 connection ._. Jun 10 15:54:16 http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_firmware#Linux_PC Jun 10 15:54:39 sorry, you lost me Jun 10 15:55:04 anyway wget http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/fiasco+co/maemo_flasher-3.5_2.4.5.3_beta.tar.gz Jun 10 15:57:00 or you get the original from ~tabletsdev, but that doesn't work via wget since you first need to accept EULA and that places a cookie on your machine that exoires 2h later, but you could use it in wget --cookie to actually wget flasher then from the official page Jun 10 15:57:48 I'm transferring all the files with a usb pen because connection doesn't work on my old ubuntu Jun 10 15:58:05 mhm Jun 10 15:58:24 DocScrutinizer05: will an internet connection be necessary? Jun 10 15:58:34 http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/d3.php Jun 10 15:58:42 that .tar.gz contains it all? Jun 10 15:58:44 is where you get all the flasher binaries Jun 10 15:58:57 err yep Jun 10 15:59:44 your link isn't listed there, I assume yours is the one for n900 Jun 10 15:59:53 hmm? Jun 10 16:00:09 my link is to my private backup Jun 10 16:00:19 http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/fiasco+co/maemo_flasher-3.5_2.4.5.3_beta.tar.gz ? Jun 10 16:00:45 flasher3.5 is for all maemo up to N900 Jun 10 16:01:41 but you shouldn't use my private backup and rather go for official binaries from http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/d3.php Jun 10 16:01:47 bought N810 for 20e :) Jun 10 16:01:56 duh! Jun 10 16:02:11 d3 doesn't list flasher 3.5 Jun 10 16:02:22 barely missed N900 for 30e, the usb was half-working, so would have been easily fixed Jun 10 16:02:51 hmm true dat Jun 10 16:02:56 +it Jun 10 16:04:19 I should put my n800 to some better use, haven't used it in a long time, it's currently configured to just be a simple skype phone Jun 10 16:05:28 the touch screen is decently sized so it makes a nice control panely thing but haven't just thought of anything practical to use it for :) Jun 10 16:05:30 ~imei Jun 10 16:07:10 ~#maemo imei is 356938031381776 Jun 10 16:07:11 DocScrutinizer05: okay Jun 10 16:07:47 I'm trying with linux Jun 10 16:07:54 and crossing my fingers Jun 10 16:08:04 http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/maemo-dev-env-downloads.php is where you find the flasher3,5 Jun 10 16:09:14 ~flasher Jun 10 16:09:15 [flasher] http://wiki.maemo.org/Flasher Jun 10 16:09:33 ~literal flasher Jun 10 16:09:34 "flasher" is "http://wiki.maemo.org/Flasher" Jun 10 16:09:51 ~flasher is also http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/maemo-dev-env-downloads.php Jun 10 16:09:51 DocScrutinizer05: okay Jun 10 16:09:55 "flasher-3.5" command not found Jun 10 16:09:57 wtf? Jun 10 16:10:21 what did you do? Jun 10 16:10:54 terminal typing Jun 10 16:11:34 GogoPogo: try to prefix it with ./ Jun 10 16:12:08 GogoPogo: and make sure you're in the same directory where the binary is Jun 10 16:12:20 freemangordon: that sounds like a futile advice, given we dunno what GogoPogo did Jun 10 16:12:37 could be Jun 10 16:12:49 ok it worked but now it says "USB device found found at bus 001, device address 007" Jun 10 16:12:58 error claiming USB interface: operation not permitted Jun 10 16:13:20 what did you do? Jun 10 16:13:23 sudo did the trick Jun 10 16:13:24 again Jun 10 16:13:28 sigh Jun 10 16:13:32 it's flashingggggg :D Jun 10 16:13:42 why the ./ ? Jun 10 16:13:54 because it is not windows ;) Jun 10 16:14:13 linux does not auto-search for binaries and libs in the current dir Jun 10 16:14:15 because your dir where the flasher binary located is not in $PATH Jun 10 16:14:33 freemangordon: except when . in $PATH Jun 10 16:14:50 still, it is in $PATH :) Jun 10 16:15:31 on several distros even have a config option "-search for binaries and libs in the current dir" Jun 10 16:15:54 but not on Ubuntu afaik. and he said he'll use ubuntu Jun 10 16:16:02 ok vanilla done, rootfs pending Jun 10 16:16:25 which makes .profile add ":." to $PATH which is where the shell *auto-searches* for binaries Jun 10 16:16:54 however, glad to see his problem fixed Jun 10 16:17:15 it should be done now Jun 10 16:17:22 let's boot it Jun 10 16:17:39 you seen Jun 10 16:17:41 ~flash Jun 10 16:17:42 methinks maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware Jun 10 16:17:44 ? Jun 10 16:17:54 GogoPogo: have in mind that optification takes some time, so be patient Jun 10 16:18:07 it had answers to *all* your questions so far Jun 10 16:18:47 I swear, I just skipped the linux part during the last reviews because I didn't plan on using it Jun 10 16:19:08 then I went panic and asked you first Jun 10 16:20:03 it is still booting up atm Jun 10 16:20:13 it takes a while Jun 10 16:20:59 I hope you removed the charger plug Jun 10 16:21:34 I did, why anyway? Jun 10 16:21:39 since sometimes it doesn't like to be on charger for optification, since charger could cause ACT_DEAD Jun 10 16:21:42 it wouldn't boot otherwise Jun 10 16:22:57 once it "booted" to a living screen, you can plug charger, it won't switch to act_dead then Jun 10 16:23:34 perfect it booted up and works Jun 10 16:23:41 time to unsubscribe from mynokia Jun 10 16:23:42 I.E. as soon as you see sth except "NOKIA" happening on your screen, you're free to plug in charger Jun 10 16:23:51 OUCH Jun 10 16:24:09 I'd not unsubscribe since that sends yet *another* SMS Jun 10 16:24:21 yes I got the sms Jun 10 16:24:23 rather install notmynokia Jun 10 16:24:24 GogoPogo: just tap outside Jun 10 16:25:08 oh... I wish I had known I could just tap outside Jun 10 16:25:19 anyway deletion sms just arrived Jun 10 16:25:59 nokia will connect my imei to my sim right? Jun 10 16:26:07 sure Jun 10 16:26:18 that's sad Jun 10 16:26:59 I may change sim in the future and tap outside :) Jun 10 16:27:14 and I still think they oughta get sued the living shit out of them for sending SMS on user's expense Jun 10 16:27:39 ~mynokia Jun 10 16:27:40 somebody said mynokia was a digital robbery courtesy Nokia, or http://wiki.maemo.org/PR1.2_compulsory_My_Nokia_subscription, or https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10366 Jun 10 16:27:42 oh, I had no money on my sim account Jun 10 16:27:56 hehe Jun 10 16:27:57 did I go red!? Jun 10 16:28:04 grrr Jun 10 16:30:29 GogoPogo: when you had no money then you maybe might be good since sending SMS failed Jun 10 16:30:57 I have no money.. but I did get it anyway Jun 10 16:31:07 you did *get* it ? Jun 10 16:31:16 I got 2 Jun 10 16:31:19 a SMS _from_ Nokia? Jun 10 16:31:26 yes Jun 10 16:31:30 too bad Jun 10 16:31:34 then you also sent one Jun 10 16:31:41 or rather two Jun 10 16:31:49 this means I went below 0 Jun 10 16:31:58 grrrr Jun 10 16:32:16 and if bad luck, you get charged premium for those Jun 10 16:32:26 lol Jun 10 16:33:03 0,2 cent, just checked Jun 10 16:33:08 sue Nokia, they shall refund you for that shit! Jun 10 16:33:22 I suffer from chilling effect :) Jun 10 16:34:44 windows 7 can't find the n900 now... due to update? Jun 10 16:38:46 I need to reboot my system Jun 10 16:38:48 see you later! Jun 10 16:40:35 reboot your windows! **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jun 10 16:51:49 2013 Jun 10 16:52:25 thanks guys for your help Jun 10 16:52:25 it all works fine now, it was libusb to blame Jun 10 16:52:25 see you next time :) Jun 10 19:43:05 just again a public statement so nobody can blame me for not speaking up upfront: I don't see BoD elections happening and I don't see what else I could do beyond what I already did, to cure that. So I failed on delivering the promised HiFo/BoD elections and thus will step down from both councils in ~3 weeks (unless elections actually happen until then) Jun 10 19:59:39 Hi there Jun 10 20:01:13 Is the n900 useful for writing code? Jun 10 20:01:50 I mean for use it as editor Jun 10 20:14:40 some guys do it Jun 10 20:30:43 * zammy is away: I'm busy Jun 10 20:50:11 hi guys Jun 10 20:51:24 i've reinstalled my n900.. i had an application that enabled/disabled Voip/IM accounts depending on the network connected Jun 10 20:51:38 does anybody remember its name? Jun 10 20:53:08 the icon was a world globe with a magnifying glass or something Jun 10 21:00:49 ok... found it, it's loldongs Jun 10 23:15:48 you have got to be kidding me Jun 10 23:15:54 i think my n900 modem is broken Jun 10 23:16:10 it keeps randomly cutting off on me :-/ i'm hoping it's just some tower trouble or something Jun 10 23:16:43 this is my 3rd n900.. i love the device to death but if this one goes on me i'm giving them the finger lol Jun 10 23:24:24 Macer: you can use a rework station to fix the gsm chip Jun 10 23:24:39 Find a local hackerspace and see if they have a rework station Jun 10 23:25:55 hello, who can help to build software, that i cant find in repos, but i have git? Jun 10 23:28:31 https://gitorious.org/maegasquirt Jun 10 23:29:07 Wizzup_: you can fix it? Jun 10 23:29:13 rework = solder reflowing? Jun 10 23:29:28 or is it a weak connection somewhere? Jun 10 23:30:09 Wizzup_: i think i'd probably wipe the 2 and sell them on ebay for parts if this one breaks. if it isn't usb ports flying off it's broken gsm chips Jun 10 23:30:19 total QA fail on the N900 on so many levels :) Jun 10 23:30:50 i have a brand new E7 on standby if this one breaks. i'll just swap to that and not look back. Maybe take a blackberry route if i want something new again Jun 10 23:30:54 Q10 looks decent Jun 10 23:34:31 does anybody have scratchbox for n900? Jun 10 23:35:21 acab: you might be able to find all that stuff on maemo.org Jun 10 23:35:45 not too sure how easily you can get it working. might want to wait until DocScrutinizer05 comes around. Jun 10 23:36:00 Macer, i didnt have much expirience( Jun 10 23:36:40 I think the easiest way is to download the virtual machine image and run that through qemu or vbox Jun 10 23:36:51 you summoned me? Jun 10 23:37:42 ecc3g: indeed Jun 10 23:37:56 scratchbox is on scratchbox.org Jun 10 23:38:01 as used to be Jun 10 23:38:28 installation works as usual/it ever did Jun 10 23:38:45 i.e. use script based installation Jun 10 23:39:02 or do what ecc3gsuggested, way simpler nowadays Jun 10 23:39:07 DocScrutinizer05, what you can say about that https://gitorious.org/maegasquirt ? Jun 10 23:39:29 that I don't even want to visit that page Jun 10 23:39:57 hehe, how can i build that soft? Jun 10 23:40:06 no idea Jun 10 23:40:48 I thought I'm used to silly names after fapman Jun 10 23:41:04 but maegasquirt, c'mon Jun 10 23:41:13 no, I won't visit that page Jun 10 23:41:57 NSFW I guess Jun 10 23:41:59 No Jun 10 23:42:08 it's a GUI for the Megasquirt ECU controller Jun 10 23:42:14 yep Jun 10 23:42:19 (which is even worsely named) Jun 10 23:43:09 ok i bit and had to google it, megasquirt seems to be a car fuel injection controller Jun 10 23:43:35 It's a custom/programmable car fuel injection controller Jun 10 23:43:44 and apparently if it's maegasquirt someone probably already ported to maemo...? Jun 10 23:43:49 Inject what you want, when you want, with whatever curves you want. Jun 10 23:44:00 They ported a GUI for it - think Torque for Android Jun 10 23:44:04 something like that I think Jun 10 23:45:02 somebody ported, but i cant finw deb file Jun 10 23:45:45 Probably because they never packaged Jun 10 23:45:52 and just built as is Jun 10 23:46:38 how can i build for mu n900? Jun 10 23:46:50 isn't there TMO mods around here? Jun 10 23:46:58 acab: download a Scratchbox VM Jun 10 23:47:06 where? Jun 10 23:47:08 install it, boot it, download source, compile Jun 10 23:47:13 um, ask docS Jun 10 23:48:56 Do you have a megasquirt controller? Jun 10 23:49:03 yes. i have it Jun 10 23:49:12 What are you running it on? Jun 10 23:49:29 alfa romeo 2.0 engine Jun 10 23:50:21 as a cab? Jun 10 23:50:30 Hm, and you want to use your N900 for gauge display? Jun 10 23:50:57 yes, i wanna use, becouse i have only clt and rpm. i wanna see more info Jun 10 23:51:10 becouse notebook very hard to use in car Jun 10 23:51:31 makes sense Jun 10 23:53:08 hm, first, download http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/maemo-dev-env-downloads.php?f=Maemo_Ubuntu_Lucid_Desktop_SDK_Virtual_Image_Final.7z Jun 10 23:53:41 Then, download virtualbox Jun 10 23:53:43 install it Jun 10 23:53:54 follow instructions: http://maemovmware.garage.maemo.org/2nd_edition/create_vbox_machine.html Jun 10 23:55:02 hehe, 1.4gb Jun 10 23:56:43 robbiethe1st, you have ms? Jun 10 23:56:59 ms? Jun 10 23:57:49 megasquirt Jun 10 23:57:58 No, but I've looked at it Jun 10 23:58:25 after downloading vm,. what i must du? Jun 10 23:58:27 Perhaps when I have the time; I've got a spare Ford 300 EFI that could do with a custom controller Jun 10 23:58:35 Download VirtualBox for your OS Jun 10 23:58:52 i install it Jun 10 23:59:08 See that page I linked? Jun 10 23:59:12 That's how to configure it Jun 10 23:59:17 i must crab source from git Jun 10 23:59:26 and what next? Jun 10 23:59:27 Yes, but /inside/ the VM I think Jun 10 23:59:37 yes. i know that Jun 10 23:59:41 Are there any makefiles? Jun 10 23:59:47 but i didnt find any makefiles Jun 10 23:59:48 readmes? Jun 11 00:00:33 only "Project created by QtCreator 2010-11-05T12:38:12" https://gitorious.org/maegasquirt/maegasquirt/blobs/master/Maegasquirt.pro Jun 11 00:01:19 oh, great Jun 11 00:01:57 ah HAH Jun 11 00:02:15 and a control file etc Jun 11 00:02:51 i must download Qt Creator IDE and tools? Jun 11 00:03:01 n Jun 11 00:03:08 so lemme guess: somebody created a ultraleete GUI in qtcreator, but zilch code behind it? Jun 11 00:03:42 I sometimes do that when my boss wants to see results Jun 11 00:03:48 No, there's some code Jun 11 00:03:50 takes 20 min Jun 11 00:04:01 what i must do( Jun 11 00:04:06 looks like it'll display RPM, MAP and A/F Ratio Jun 11 00:04:59 DocS, if you want to compile some .cpp files just with g++ or w/e, how do you do it Jun 11 00:05:05 who can compile it ? Jun 11 00:05:30 qtcreator? qmake Jun 11 00:05:31 I can tell these things require libqt4 https://gitorious.org/maegasquirt/maegasquirt/blobs/master/qtc_packaging/debian_fremantle/control Jun 11 00:05:57 but probably that's madde, not qtcreator Jun 11 00:06:06 i have mo idea how to make that project) Jun 11 00:06:23 https://gitorious.org/maegasquirt/maegasquirt/blobs/master/Maegasquirt.pro Jun 11 00:06:35 DocS, that file looks like a compile file of somesort Jun 11 00:07:02 either qtcreator or madde project file, yes Jun 11 00:07:13 afaik madde is based on qtcreator Jun 11 00:07:17 Says QtCreator, so... Jun 11 00:07:22 but somewhat cistomized to maemo Jun 11 00:07:39 don't ask me, I never used it Jun 11 00:08:11 iirc for qtcreator projects you have a qmake Jun 11 00:08:34 which is a biatch Jun 11 00:09:29 it's quite a while ago since I last built twinklephone with own patches Jun 11 00:09:43 http://wiki.maemo.org/Qt4_development Jun 11 00:09:52 but then, twinklephone is kinda hybrid Jun 11 00:10:13 acab, try opening a terminal, navigating to your extracted directory and then running Jun 11 00:10:27 'qmake MegaSquirt.pro' and then 'make' Jun 11 00:10:38 looks sensible Jun 11 00:11:13 qmake not fount) Jun 11 00:11:36 thought as much Jun 11 00:11:50 try "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install qmake" Jun 11 00:12:31 I doubt that's a package Jun 11 00:12:43 well, who knows Jun 11 00:12:46 hm Jun 11 00:12:50 qt4-qmake Jun 11 00:13:00 anyway /usr/bin/qmake Jun 11 00:13:02 try "sudo apt-get install qt4-qmake" instead Jun 11 00:13:29 not fount any( Jun 11 00:13:50 apt-get update Jun 11 00:14:01 i do that Jun 11 00:14:09 Macer: Well, yes, it is fixable Jun 11 00:14:13 apt-cache search qmake Jun 11 00:14:17 There's a thread somewhere on t.m.o, but I don't have the link Jun 11 00:14:19 A friend does Jun 11 00:14:22 I think its qmake-qt4 Jun 11 00:14:37 Anyway, ehm, regarding the usb, that is also fixable with a rework station Jun 11 00:16:39 that is definitely fixable, even without a reflow station Jun 11 00:16:46 ~usbfix Jun 11 00:16:47 rumour has it, usbfix is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75920 - and **NEVER** use epoxy (unless you want to seal your device for underwater) Jun 11 00:21:30 libqt4-devel Jun 11 00:21:36 maybe Jun 11 00:22:17 DocScrutinizer05: it isnt a layman fix Jun 11 00:22:18 can't check right now, my mouse needs a break Jun 11 00:23:48 heh Jun 11 00:23:53 hmm, yes, not for the unexperienced Jun 11 00:23:55 i have last cssu, but i havent rtcom-messaging-ui-portait conversations in portrait Jun 11 00:24:04 im back on the e7 now Jun 11 00:24:05 why it didnt work? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Jun 11 02:59:58 2013