**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jun 14 02:59:58 2013 Jun 14 03:22:50 so I got cssu-thumbs installed Jun 14 03:22:58 this auto turn shit Jun 14 03:23:03 on the desktop Jun 14 03:23:04 what gives Jun 14 03:23:34 the accelerometer on the n900 is shitty as fuck and mine is miscalibrated Jun 14 07:21:40 http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/06/an-open-of-course-letter-to-my-friend-the-nsa/ Jun 14 07:23:51 http://www.explosm.net/comics/3201/ Jun 14 07:46:29 Do skype,yahoo other chat and social communication prog work 2 spoil muslims youth and spy 4 isreal&usa??????? Jun 14 07:46:32 do they record and analyse every word we type???????????? Jun 14 08:35:41 when mr GI_Jack wouldn't rant'n'run, I would've pointed him to ~jrtools where he would've found the gconftool cmdline to stop that - admittely annoying - autorotate shit Jun 14 08:36:57 and the misscalibration of accelerometer is an age old known effect that is only curable by a powerdown Jun 14 08:39:22 in hindsight most probably caused by this brainfsck in KP that allowed concurrent access to I2C device since it removed/neutered systemwide device locking Jun 14 10:40:47 DocScrutinizer51: I just read your email to the mailing list about designing the GTA04 main PCB into N900 cases. Jun 14 10:41:17 surely there must be some kind of legal repercussion for this kind of thing? Jun 14 10:41:29 But a great idea none the less! Jun 14 10:41:38 wouldn't know of any Jun 14 10:42:12 maybe we need to remove the NOKIA branding Jun 14 10:42:15 It is an exciting possibility. Jun 14 11:02:21 DocScrutinizer: infobot joined! Jun 14 11:02:36 yeah, but for how long? Jun 14 11:05:50 ~wb Jun 14 11:05:52 It's great to be back! Jun 14 11:07:32 and byebye Jun 14 11:08:01 ~+status Jun 14 11:08:36 Since Fri Jun 14 10:59:51 2013, there have been 0 modifications, 1 question, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 1 command. I have been awake for 8m 44s this session, and currently reference 119071 factoids. I'm using about 18260 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 1.98/0.09 child 0/0 Jun 14 11:08:48 wow, still alive Jun 14 11:12:32 DocScrutinizer05: would you be able to resell n900 cases? Jun 14 11:12:59 or would you have to only sell the board and let the user put it in the case? Jun 14 11:13:59 I can't see why I can't resell cases that I purchased on ebay Jun 14 11:14:07 with the board inside? Jun 14 11:14:15 why not? Jun 14 11:14:36 they are not even made by Nokia, usually Jun 14 11:15:14 as mentioned above, maybe we need to remove the "NOKIA" stamp on the bezel/frame Jun 14 11:15:50 and the one on back cover Jun 14 11:16:07 if it's not already NOKlA Jun 14 11:16:25 (lower-case L) Jun 14 11:16:47 ;-) Jun 14 11:17:18 honestly, I don't expect any problems Jun 14 11:18:10 we're not selling a Nokia fake, we sell a custom made PCB built into a genuine Nokia case Jun 14 11:18:22 clearly labeled and advertised as such Jun 14 11:18:36 byebye infobot Jun 14 11:19:29 DocScrutinizer05: i want a n900 with 2gb of ram :3 Jun 14 11:19:50 will we be able to run fremantle on this hypothetical new board? Jun 14 11:20:06 or even "custom OMAP4 PCB in a case labeled "NOKIA" - might be a fake, we don't know" Jun 14 11:21:18 we may buy those cases in China, we may import it to EU, so why wouldn't we be allowed to resell them? Jun 14 11:21:43 disassembled, assembled with whatever we like inside, or blended to dust Jun 14 11:22:31 kerio: fremantle, no. Not as such. Hildon, yes. Jun 14 11:22:39 now i'm imagining the "will it blend?" guy blending a n900 Jun 14 11:22:53 remove the "NOKIA" printing and advertise it as "amazingly similar to N900" Jun 14 11:23:04 "hey look, it still has pretty much the same amount of ram" Jun 14 11:23:10 'similar yet legally distinct'. Jun 14 11:25:07 We might find a lawyer that looks into it, but I don't expect any problems, particularly not when not selling in the 5 to 6 digit quantity Jun 14 11:29:08 what worries me way more is availability of the ME birdseed like antennae/aerials, buttons, the friggin flex connector board with all the stuff like proximity sensor, frontcam etc on it (or if we could assemble/build such stuff ourselves), Stylus, matching main camera module, etc pp Jun 14 11:29:10 are there even 5 digits' worth of N900 users? Jun 14 11:29:26 right now it seems like yes Jun 14 11:30:09 DocScrutinizer05: why not mold new covers in cheap-ass China factories? Jun 14 11:30:12 we didn't do recent checks of repo VM accesslogs, but last numbers been ~30k active devices Jun 14 11:30:32 you'd need one in three users to buy one, to justify a 10k board production Jun 14 11:30:40 rikanee: the molds for such stuff cost you an arm and a leg Jun 14 11:30:41 rikanee: because you may as well mould your own design then. Jun 14 11:30:50 ah. Jun 14 11:31:13 DocScrutinizer05: sell board, distribute 3d-printable design for case Jun 14 11:31:14 so, is this a GTA04-style drop in board, or are you actually producing N900+1's? Jun 14 11:31:21 I seem to recall 6 digit numbers, maybe NTD Jun 14 11:31:30 rikanee: It is just an idea. Jun 14 11:31:34 ah. Jun 14 11:31:41 wouldn't the actual GTA04 kinda work already? Jun 14 11:31:48 yes, kinda Jun 14 11:31:58 in N900 you mean? Jun 14 11:32:01 yeah Jun 14 11:32:04 yep Jun 14 11:32:07 i assume it works well in the GTA02 Jun 14 11:32:13 it's somewhat similar Jun 14 11:32:15 because it's made for that specific purpose Jun 14 11:32:56 well, the BOM of GTA04 is way more like N900 than like gta02 Jun 14 11:33:28 e.g they switched to OMAP (or a similar drop in replacement) Jun 14 11:33:59 while GTA02 had Samsung S3?2442 Jun 14 11:34:33 which had no awesome SR technology and no zeroclock Jun 14 11:35:20 I found that the nook simple touch has a similar processor to the n900. I'm not sure if it's actually drop in. Jun 14 11:35:23 Raster and me always bitched about that nonsense to go into suspend on a embedded device Jun 14 11:35:24 Woo - 800MHz! Jun 14 11:36:39 SpeedEvil: 34/35/36xx mobile processors iirc all have the same package Jun 14 11:36:55 Still 256M though Jun 14 11:37:30 I dunno if those oneNAND provide POP with more, for the 3450 Jun 14 11:37:31 DocScrutinizer05: suspend on a phone could kinda work i guess Jun 14 11:37:34 SpeedEvil, yup, you'll need to install new OneNAND, and flash some sort of bootloader Jun 14 11:37:41 as long as you have something waking it up for calls Jun 14 11:37:48 kerio: it doesn't Jun 14 11:37:54 resume takes way too long Jun 14 11:37:58 hm Jun 14 11:38:04 DocScrutinizer05: 512MB OneNAND's available for the OMAP3, see N9 Jun 14 11:38:10 IIRC Samsung has them up to 2GB Jun 14 11:38:23 rikanee: yes, for the 36xx Jun 14 11:39:03 rikanee: The one in the NST boots from USB, or emmc. I don't know if this would work if the pinstraps are wrong Jun 14 11:39:41 obviously not Jun 14 11:40:07 isn't the boot config burned-in on the N900? Jun 14 11:40:09 but what's NST? Jun 14 11:40:16 no Jun 14 11:40:18 either that, or OneNAND was the first priority boot device Jun 14 11:40:20 hardwired Jun 14 11:41:13 DocScrutinizer05: ah. I remember reading on some TI page about being able to use secondary boot loader from anywhere you wanted Jun 14 11:41:16 DocScrutinizer05: Nook simple touch. Jun 14 11:41:24 yep Jun 14 11:41:29 DocScrutinizer05: It's a e-ink reader that is being sold cheaply in various countries. Jun 14 11:41:31 (but burnable by manufacturer) Jun 14 11:41:32 SpeedEvil: thanks Jun 14 11:41:35 The UK, for £29 Jun 14 11:41:53 (I am not of course serious about CPU upgrades, I just happened to notice the processor) Jun 14 11:42:23 rikanee: well, there's a ROMBL in 3450 that checks two bootstrap pins and those decide where it boots from Jun 14 11:42:51 DocScrutinizer05: ooh, there we go. Jun 14 11:43:15 (maybe 3) Jun 14 11:43:34 I guess for certain pinstraps, if you were reworking, you could not populate the balls Jun 14 11:44:16 sure, you could drill out the pads, or whatever Jun 14 11:44:44 I was meaning pull off a ball before reflow Jun 14 11:44:57 but if I'm not mistaken, even N900 *should* check MMC as well during boot Jun 14 11:47:05 DocScrutinizer05: so we could install NOLO/X-Loader to MMC? Jun 14 11:50:16 err, I'm just checking if the lack of proper caffeine made me dream and I told BS Jun 14 11:51:53 for example that chip is called 3430, not 3450 Jun 14 11:52:20 and I can't find the pinstraps Jun 14 11:54:13 "SYS_BOOT*"? Jun 14 11:56:28 SpeedEvil: can you help me out? Jun 14 11:57:07 might actually be that EFUSE thing or whatsitcalled Jun 14 11:57:43 rikanee: I thought we could, yes Jun 14 11:58:11 rikanee: but I also thought I could get some coffee and proper breakfast today Jun 14 12:02:24 OMAP3515.03_Applications_Processor___spruf98D_10-2009.pdf___focus.ti.com\\lit\\ug\\spruf98d\\spruf98d.pdf p.854, CONTROL_IVA2_BOOTMOD IVA2.2 boot mode register Jun 14 12:03:16 The CONTROL.CONTROL_IVA2_BOOTMOD register defines the IVA2 boot mode and drives the Jun 14 12:03:18 IVA2_BOOTMOD[3:0] signals out from the control block to the IVA2.2 subsystem. Based on the value of Jun 14 12:03:19 IVA2_BOOTMOD[3:0], the ROM boot loader executes different boot modes of IVA2.2. Jun 14 12:08:53 >> Jun 14 12:08:54 SYSBOOT Pins Jun 14 12:08:56 The internal ROM Code can attempt to boot from several different peripheral and memory devices, including, but not limited to: Serial (UART3), SD Card, eMMC, NAND, and USB. The order in which these devices are searched for a valid first-stage booting image (x-loader) is determine by a set of GPIO configuration pins referred to as SYSBOOT. The TRM includes a table that shows the booting device list that each combination of the SYSBOOT Jun 14 12:08:57 pins refers to. Jun 14 12:08:59 << Jun 14 12:09:45 DocScrutinizer05: sorry, on mobile, reading data sheets isn't really practical Jun 14 12:10:04 SpeedEvil: seems I found it :-) Jun 14 12:10:08 :-) Jun 14 12:11:29 >>The SYSBOOT value can be read from physical address 0x480022f0, either using JTAG, or if you have linux running, use devmem2:<< http://www.omappedia.org/wiki/Bootloader_Project Jun 14 12:12:23 devmem2 0x480022f0 b Jun 14 12:13:14 I wish I had devmem2 binary on my device Jun 14 12:15:01 ugh, seems messybox-powder has devmem Jun 14 12:17:29 and n900-android has devmem2 Jun 14 12:26:01 rikanee: in focus.ti.com\\lit\\ug\\spruf98d\\spruf98d.pdf on page 3492, 25.4.1.1 BOOTING TYPES you find details how to boot from e.g. uSD Jun 14 12:28:48 > >The ROM code detects whether the device should download software from a peripheral interface (H SUSB or UART 3) by using the sys_boot pin configuration. This mechanism encompasses initial flashing i nproduction (external memory is empty) and reflashing in service (external memory is alread yprogrammed) .Table 25-6 lists the pin multiplexing according to boot peripheral.<< Jun 14 13:00:28 Ticking down the last hours for nominations Jun 14 13:01:10 p.3491: Table 25-5. Booting Configuration Pins after a Warm Reset Jun 14 13:02:59 GeneralAntilles: do you think we'll find the 4th victim? Jun 14 13:12:50 I tried cajoling people on Twitter last night. No luck so far. Jun 14 13:15:15 ooops - Table 25-4. Peripheral Booting Configuration Pins after POR ; is the right one Jun 14 13:18:26 Not only has public perception of HiFo been poisoned, but nobody wants to be on the board for similar reasons. Jun 14 13:18:41 yep Jun 14 13:18:44 :-S Jun 14 13:19:07 while the candidates so far would be a quite nice company Jun 14 13:19:36 everybody should be happy to cooperate with you guys who already nominated Jun 14 13:20:44 What are the threshold numbers for the candidate counts? Jun 14 13:20:46 I honestly can't put more on my plate Jun 14 13:20:53 4, 6, 9 Jun 14 13:21:01 I can't get the by-laws PDF to come up. Jun 14 13:21:40 for, 3, 5, 7 Jun 14 13:21:43 No, I don't think you should. We need more people, not more tasks fort the same number of people. Jun 14 13:21:52 yes Jun 14 13:23:37 ask win7mac! :-) Jun 14 13:24:10 he seems very eager to help community Jun 14 13:27:10 also I think tmo threads with more than 5 posts lack interest even with new follow-up posts on them. If you want to reach people on tmo, you actually need to start a new thread, sad but true Jun 14 13:27:59 I wonder where's the whole "HARM folks" Jun 14 13:28:16 do they think HiFo is irrelevant for them? Jun 14 13:34:07 DocScrutinizer05: I've never really seen a lot of new people from HARM around, though. Jun 14 13:34:22 most of the people I know here on M.O are Fremantle dudes. Jun 14 13:34:54 hey, i'm trying to make the "swap on microsd" work Jun 14 13:35:13 but i cant extract the swapoff binary outta the debian mount package Jun 14 13:35:16 no permission Jun 14 13:35:27 tissi, try installing busybox-power Jun 14 13:36:14 you telling me to replace essential system binaries? Jun 14 13:36:19 alright lets do it Jun 14 13:36:24 DocScrutinizer05, probably burnt out from MeeGo. Jun 14 13:37:21 tissi: well, that's also my concern :-) Jun 14 13:37:56 tissi: nevertheless *allegedly* messybox-pova 'works' Jun 14 13:39:01 "it just werks" -ceo of windows foundation, richard stallman (r.i.p) Jun 14 13:39:45 uh? *That* RMS? Jun 14 13:44:15 uh oh Jun 14 13:44:20 still cant extract data.tar.gz Jun 14 13:44:32 long list of operations not permitted Jun 14 13:46:56 tissi: the stock tar xvzf doesn't work? Jun 14 13:47:22 uh Jun 14 13:47:28 no, doesn't seem like that Jun 14 13:47:58 probably a wrongly-formed tarball, likely with different-encoding filenames Jun 14 13:48:15 try tar-gnu. Jun 14 13:48:24 yeah i heard something about symlinks and filesystems and stuff when i googled this a while ago Jun 14 13:48:57 wait what tar-gnu? Jun 14 13:49:01 is this a package i need to install? Jun 14 13:50:46 tissi, yep. Jun 14 13:51:54 "tar-gnu is already the latest version" Jun 14 13:53:02 err, you're not extracting to vfat fs maybe? Jun 14 13:53:53 the deb file is at /home/user/MyDocs/deb and i'm trying to extract in the same location Jun 14 13:54:03 or corrupted file system? Jun 14 13:54:15 impussibre Jun 14 13:54:25 that location is vfat and thus doesn't support posix/unix file permissions Jun 14 13:54:26 just flashed the whole thing 2 days ago Jun 14 13:54:45 alright, tell me what to do Jun 14 13:54:47 neither links Jun 14 13:55:08 well, I dunno what exactly you try to do Jun 14 13:55:25 "Swap priorities Jun 14 13:55:25 In order to utilize both swap partitions to balance the I/O load (striping), they should have the same priority. The /bin/swapon command shipped with Maemo is the busybox version that does not support -p option. If you don't have Easy Debian environment installed, download the stock Debian mount package for the armel architecture and extract (-x) the swapon binary from it, and copy it somewhere e.g. /sbin/s Jun 14 13:55:25 wapon.debian. Jun 14 13:55:25 " Jun 14 13:55:53 i'm at the part where i'm extracting the swapon and swapoff binaries Jun 14 13:58:05 cd; mkdir extract; cd extract; tar -xvzf /home/user/MyDocs/deb/foobar.tgz swapon Jun 14 13:58:16 sth like that Jun 14 13:58:30 fix the tar cmd parameters to match your needs Jun 14 14:00:04 you did it Jun 14 14:00:19 thanx frien Jun 14 14:00:23 yw Jun 14 14:03:40 say, you know a lot of stuff about gnu/linux Jun 14 14:03:46 ever used crunchbang? Jun 14 14:05:25 nope Jun 14 14:11:32 ugh. Jun 14 14:23:35 I actually never heard of it Jun 14 14:23:52 sorry Jun 14 14:25:35 np Jun 14 14:27:54 DocScrutinizer05: afaik, it's debian for people that can't install debian Jun 14 14:30:38 If I got it correct I could stand in the elections just so that we have 4 and can vote. How to nominate myself? Jun 14 14:30:52 just visited their website Jun 14 14:31:31 fw190: you need to post your self-nomination to the maemo-community ML Jun 14 14:31:55 you _should_ post it to other places like tmo as well Jun 14 14:33:46 fw190: do you know your karma as of end of last year? >100? Jun 14 14:34:03 I just sent a message to maemo-community@maemo.org Jun 14 14:34:19 last time I had something like 160 Jun 14 14:36:00 great! :-D Jun 14 14:37:20 Your mail to 'maemo-community' with the subject Jun 14 14:37:20 HiFo election Jun 14 14:37:20 Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. Jun 14 14:38:00 umm, yeah that happens. When you haven't registered to that ML Jun 14 14:38:27 ...and I have no clue who's moderator and how that moderator would approve a mail Jun 14 14:39:35 hmm then I have to sign in to mailing list Jun 14 14:39:44 just c&p the mail to tmo, and you're fine. Or even better, add yourself to http://wiki.maemo.org/Hildon_Foundation/Board_candidate_declarations_for_June_2013 Jun 14 14:41:17 ok Jun 14 14:41:23 I edited the message Jun 14 14:41:27 and wil post on the wiki Jun 14 14:48:27 Damn Jun 14 14:48:31 My karma shows 18 Jun 14 14:48:43 now I do not understand anything Jun 14 14:49:51 Calc is broken Jun 14 14:58:48 fw190: don't worry. If your karma been >100 last year then all ok Jun 14 14:59:17 fw190 168 Jun 14 14:59:24 verified Jun 14 14:59:28 officially Jun 14 14:59:35 forget your karma Jun 14 15:00:26 Somebody want to call khm's karma? Jun 14 15:01:12 yeah so now we hve 4 and we can vote - splendid ;) Jun 14 15:02:20 GeneralAntilles: nonexistent Jun 14 15:03:27 [2013-06-12 02:50:24] I don't think khm has sufficient karma Jun 14 15:03:29 [2013-06-12 02:59:55] in http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1270698&postcount=59 http://talk.maemo.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=28751&d=1348332102 I can't spot maier, khm, or karmaflux Jun 14 15:03:30 [2013-06-12 03:01:26] http://maemo.org/profile/view/karmaflux/ gives karma:29 Jun 14 15:03:32 [2013-06-12 03:03:33] if somebody thinks we need to calculate current karma manually since it might result in >100 when we do, please contact woody about it, since he knows what's missing currently in karma calculation and can add those values manually Jun 14 15:04:51 DocScrutinizer: infobot joined! Jun 14 15:07:42 iirc it's just wikimendia edits and tmo posts and thanks that are missing Jun 14 15:08:26 but looking at your karma you can tell what's missing and calculate manually from the values shown in wiki resp tmo Jun 14 15:08:56 the algo is linked form the page with your karma iirc Jun 14 15:09:49 also I haven't seem khm for quite a while Jun 14 15:10:14 I'm not even sure if he keeps his nomination up Jun 14 15:12:55 * DocScrutinizer05 idly wonders if eligibility-candidates rules are maybe missing a paragraph about cooperation of candidate being mandatory to have the candidate running Jun 14 15:14:41 I mean, it's hard to figure how you could self-nominate 12 weeks (made up value) before elections, not even provide any self declaration or mandatory data, and then expect to show up on the ballots Jun 14 15:15:11 and come after elections and ask "so am I elected now?" Jun 14 15:16:42 Yeah, missed two nomination periods. Jun 14 15:17:10 so I consider that a non-nomination Jun 14 15:18:07 besides the probably missing karma Jun 14 15:18:39 DocScrutinizer05: you are talking about me or khm? I got lost ;) Jun 14 15:18:45 khm Jun 14 15:18:50 ahhhh ok Jun 14 15:19:03 fw190: your karma is checked and OK Jun 14 15:19:08 officially Jun 14 15:19:11 there wasn't enough karma for Council elections anyway. Jun 14 15:19:40 indeed Jun 14 15:20:04 we already been there, done that Jun 14 15:20:35 since khm also self-nominated for council Jun 14 15:21:21 so unless somebody claims this must have changed since then... khm not running Jun 14 15:22:52 hi there Jun 14 15:23:21 Does anyone know how to install the new tweetian 1.8.1? Jun 14 15:23:30 it complains that it requires a new library Jun 14 15:24:21 qt-components-10-com.nokia.meego-1.1-compat Jun 14 15:24:31 but the system cannot find it in the repos Jun 14 15:24:45 In the topic, Custodian recommends to install nelisquare Jun 14 15:25:17 I tried to do so, and installed nelisquare 0.4.8 without much trouble; still unable to install tweetian 1.8.1 Jun 14 15:26:04 I uninstalled nelisquare, and tried to install nelisquare 0.5.0-beta, but I couldn't because of the same dependency Jun 14 15:26:15 and I have repos enabled up to extras-devel Jun 14 15:26:38 can anybody help, please? I work as a CM and need a good twitter client in my N900 Jun 14 15:26:43 thanks in advance :) Jun 14 15:31:16 Did someone fix the devel repo? Jun 14 15:32:19 IDK Jun 14 15:32:31 btw: I use CSSU stable Jun 14 15:33:11 if you are aware of another twitter client working now, I'm open to suggestions Jun 14 15:56:30 sombragris: which have you tried Jun 14 15:59:27 17:56 sixwheeledbeast sombragris: which have you tried Jun 14 15:59:34 (he disconnected) Jun 14 16:00:10 not according to pidgin Jun 14 16:01:15 17:57 <- sombragris has disconnected (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client) Jun 14 16:01:22 17:58 -> sombragris has joined maemo Jun 14 16:06:58 sixwheeledbeast: what mkes you think that Jun 14 16:07:46 think what Jun 14 16:12:53 he has now left the room... Jun 14 16:13:07 yep, same message as before Jun 14 16:13:29 and I think merlin is referring to your statement about the devel repo Jun 14 16:13:34 back Jun 14 16:13:56 yep Sosica is right Jun 14 16:13:58 now this is more like it. XChat is better than the web-based Kiwi IRC Jun 14 16:16:02 eh.. Jun 14 16:17:00 so yeah sixwheeledbeast what makes you think that someone fixed the devel repo? Jun 14 16:17:21 oh packages are appearing Jun 14 16:19:37 merlin1991:^^^ Jun 14 16:19:57 http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-devel_free_armel/python-uncertainties/2.3.6-1maemo1/ Jun 14 16:20:33 http://maemo.org/packages/repository/latest/fremantle_extras-devel_free_armel/all/ Jun 14 16:22:40 I suppose that was a side effect of me pushing the cssuT8.2 release through by hand Jun 14 16:23:02 Also neilsquare has it's page back ... http://maemo.org/packages/view/nelisquare/ Jun 14 16:23:08 \o/ Jun 14 16:23:57 I have only asking so I can give props to the persons involved :) Jun 14 16:24:43 s/have/am/ Jun 14 16:24:44 ~ping Jun 14 16:24:45 sixwheeledbeast meant: I am only asking so I can give props to the persons involved :) Jun 14 16:24:47 ~pong Jun 14 16:24:51 mmm Jun 14 16:25:13 ..lag... Jun 14 16:32:20 btw, any pointers to my twitter questions will be appreciated Jun 14 16:32:47 <<(16:50:37) sixwheeledbeast: sombragris: which have you tried>> Jun 14 16:33:34 sorry, I answered that before, it evidently didn't get here Jun 14 16:34:11 I tried: TweeGo, TweedSuit, Tweetian (1.6.x), Khweeteur, TwimGo (never worked for me) Jun 14 16:34:15 so it seems Jun 14 16:34:56 none of them currently work. I understand that Tweetian is the one that works with the new Twitter login API Jun 14 16:35:09 ok well I know of no others apart from Canola 2 plugin Jun 14 16:35:11 but I cannot install it because it complains of a missing dependency and I cannot solve that Jun 14 16:35:19 I use CSSU Jun 14 16:35:24 what is Canola 2 ? Jun 14 16:37:32 I music player, but you may find that uses the old API Jun 14 16:37:39 s/I/A/ Jun 14 16:37:40 sixwheeledbeast meant: A music player, but you may find that uses the old API Jun 14 16:38:42 I think Tweetian is the only hope if you fix the dependency issue. Jun 14 16:39:21 Custodian isn't here to ask either. Jun 14 16:39:22 can anyone tell me where I can get qt-components-10-com.nokia.meego-1.1-compat ? Jun 14 16:39:49 I mean, it's nowhere to be found, even in extras-devel Jun 14 16:40:46 sixwheeledbeast: I think so. I'm ok with that, tweetian seems such a nice app. I used it previously for a managed account and worked like a charm. Jun 14 16:42:06 i have a strange problem since i flashed my n900 this week. i restored my gmail account from a backup. I can consult the message list, but on every message, if i want to see the detail, i get "message not available on server" anyone already got that? Jun 14 16:42:15 I ran apt-get update on the command-line and I got something interesting Jun 14 16:42:17 Conflicting distribution: http://repository.maemo.org fremantle-1.3 Release (expected fremantle-1.3 but got ) Jun 14 16:42:27 does anyone know about this ? Jun 14 16:42:38 perhaps this may be behind the problem Jun 14 16:44:21 tweetian is not in the repos so can't check it's dependencies Jun 14 16:44:55 sombragris: http://maemo.org/packages/view/qt-components-10-com.nokia.meego-1.1-compat/ Jun 14 16:45:19 sixwheeledbeast: thanks! Jun 14 16:45:29 beats me, how it is missing even from extras-devel Jun 14 16:45:31 * sixwheeledbeast is going for a shower while he has chance...BRB Jun 14 16:46:14 lol Jun 14 16:46:29 sixwheeledbeast: thanks for the pointer. enjoy the shower Jun 14 16:58:37 (( I suppose that was a side effect of me pushing the cssuT8.2 release through by hand)) [2013-06-11 23:26:41] hi Doc!,.. crond "killed by term signal" (during strange i/o errors ..?) [2013-06-11 23:28:10] ..crond just restarted Jun 14 16:59:27 * sixwheeledbeast is back :) Jun 14 16:59:41 oh.. cronjob that makes sense... Jun 14 17:01:24 sombragris: how's it going, it seems tweetian was never uploaded to repos. Jun 14 17:02:21 sixwheeledbeast: I just installed it via dpkg Jun 14 17:02:28 now, let's see if it runs Jun 14 17:03:04 my biggest problem was the qt-components thingie Jun 14 17:03:18 question: when you display dashboard, default Maemo blanks the wallpaper, and also when you browse application menu. how do you change that? Jun 14 17:03:45 sixwheeledbeast: it works! Jun 14 17:03:46 thanks Jun 14 17:03:57 now let's see if it connects to twitter Jun 14 17:04:04 sombragris: np Jun 14 17:04:17 bad news: unauthorized Jun 14 17:04:20 error 401 Jun 14 17:04:21 :S Jun 14 17:04:56 sombragris: you'll have to ping Custodian about that. have you read the thread on TMO Jun 14 17:05:14 yes, I wrote on the thread, no answer so far Jun 14 17:05:47 Sicelo: not sure what you mean Jun 14 17:06:30 let me show a screenshot Jun 14 17:07:58 Sicelo: I get you now. Jun 14 17:08:29 the darker part of the screen in taskswitcher and app menu Jun 14 17:09:43 what do you what to do with it? Jun 14 17:09:43 Sicelo:^^^ Jun 14 17:10:34 what i have now is that the wallpaper shows even in taskswitcher & all menu. Jun 14 17:10:34 sixwheeledbeast: I can confirm that tweetian does work. Jun 14 17:10:43 I just had to relogin Jun 14 17:10:55 i like that, but i don't remember what i did to get that :P Jun 14 17:10:59 good glad you sorted. Jun 14 17:11:13 and a friend would like me to help him do it ;) Jun 14 17:11:32 Sicelo: I think you modified the transitions file. Jun 14 17:12:03 ~transitions.ini Jun 14 17:12:22 ~transitions Jun 14 17:12:35 which part of that? :/ .. i'm looking at the wiki, but so far can't see what it could be Jun 14 17:13:22 infobot: transitions.ini is http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Features/hildon-desktop Jun 14 17:13:22 okay, sixwheeledbeast Jun 14 17:13:34 ~transitions.ini Jun 14 17:13:34 well, transitions.ini is http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Features/hildon-desktop Jun 14 17:13:49 :) Jun 14 17:14:15 Sicelo: Blurless and Blurless Sat effect this. Jun 14 17:16:16 are those supported in stock h-d, or they need the modifed one? Jun 14 17:16:42 Sicelo: Why not copy your file on your device to his, remember to backup first. Jun 14 17:16:55 CSSU h-d has the thp tweaks. Jun 14 17:17:55 ok. i don't thik he's on cssu yet. will have to start there Jun 14 17:18:13 * Sicelo is afraid of the day i'll have to reflash :P Jun 14 17:22:53 OK, so I followed the instructions for CSSU-Thumb, and under "About Community CSSU" it doesn't mention thumbs anywhere Jun 14 17:25:45 it meantions fingers? ;) Jun 14 17:26:00 lol. just fooling around Jun 14 17:28:21