**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jul 02 02:59:58 2013 Jul 02 03:23:18 wow Jul 02 03:23:25 that was a lot to read hhe Jul 02 05:47:57 hi all Jul 02 05:48:07 is there possible to had multiboot in n900? Jul 02 05:52:16 there's uboot Jul 02 05:53:00 I see Jul 02 05:53:12 I am thinking to order n900 mobile Jul 02 05:53:30 is working update for meamo os? Jul 02 05:54:07 there are community updates Jul 02 05:54:42 ok Jul 02 05:54:52 I will order it , thankyou Jul 02 05:55:02 a good price would be around 150€? Jul 02 05:55:09 maybe even less, if it's used Jul 02 07:03:53 hm Jul 02 07:04:02 is there a youtube client that actually works? Jul 02 07:10:43 cutetube opens the media player but then says no connection to server Jul 02 07:10:53 zoutube just doesnt work at all for anything Jul 02 07:14:38 maybe cutetube is more a problem with theplayer Jul 02 07:18:22 would be awesome if it worked Jul 02 07:39:05 uhm Jul 02 07:39:15 so is extras-devel back to maemo.org? Jul 02 08:02:50 guess so Jul 02 08:09:53 ~rmo Jul 02 08:09:54 [rmo] repository.maemo.org Jul 02 08:10:45 I'm rather sure extras-devel repo is 2back to maemo.org" since ~and of January Jul 02 08:10:56 end* of... Jul 02 08:12:02 we're still struggling to fix all the damage done during migration#1 Jul 02 08:12:28 but most *users* won't even notice any of that damage Jul 02 08:13:06 (which also is one of the reasons why it could have sneaked in, to start with) Jul 02 08:14:05 if somebody has comprehensive mirrors containing all the pre-migration stuff, please holler! Jul 02 08:16:12 pre-migration means: from maybe november of last year. Either accumulative mirror (never deleting any old versions) or a backup that that never got tainted since Jul 02 08:34:48 i was just asking because devel had a cutetube update Jul 02 08:34:52 which works :) Jul 02 08:35:47 which is awesome Jul 02 08:35:58 has fb support t5oo Jul 02 08:36:18 too bad there isnt a very good fb client Jul 02 08:36:32 fmobi was awesome but abandoned and cost money Jul 02 08:36:49 has a similar inteface to cutetube Jul 02 09:24:21 oh. i guess there is a fb client Jul 02 09:24:25 sociality Jul 02 09:24:35 im pretty sure facebrick doesnt work still Jul 02 09:24:53 * Macer kicks sociality Jul 02 09:27:05 hm. doesnt seem like the news feed updates in sociality Jul 02 09:27:06 sociality needs some more update work being done on it Jul 02 09:27:09 give MohammadAG some time! Jul 02 09:27:15 although the profile stuff seems to work Jul 02 09:27:18 its not like these folks get paid to develop apps for N900:) Jul 02 09:27:26 and Facebook changes stuff on their side too:< Jul 02 09:27:26 yah i know heh Jul 02 09:27:31 i was just surprised. Jul 02 09:27:40 sociality is for now the 'best' fb client i guess Jul 02 09:27:50 but overall you are just best off doing m.facebook.com in the browser Jul 02 09:28:01 it is stuck with a rotating circle for the news feed Jul 02 09:28:10 not sure if it is even doing anything :) Jul 02 09:28:15 the sociality thread has an updated .deb iirc Jul 02 09:28:19 posted by MAG Jul 02 09:28:28 oh. Jul 02 09:28:28 near the end of the thread, i reckon Jul 02 09:28:33 hm Jul 02 09:28:39 let me see if i can find it Jul 02 09:28:39 no clue how it works or what it fixes Jul 02 09:28:50 my situation is even worse Jul 02 09:28:58 i got an n9 for the social media crap Jul 02 09:29:02 but the n9 also lacks a good fb client! Jul 02 09:29:06 so its all \o/ Jul 02 09:29:36 probably the news feed not loading haha Jul 02 09:29:46 but id figure the one from devel is the latest Jul 02 09:29:49 but i will check Jul 02 09:30:50 blah. it will take forever to find it heh Jul 02 09:31:18 no it wont Jul 02 09:31:29 google for maemo talk sociality Jul 02 09:31:29 done Jul 02 09:31:47 it even has a wiki page Jul 02 09:32:25 ah think i found it Jul 02 09:32:30 the thread at least heh Jul 02 09:33:03 I see there is flasher packaged for maemo itself. Is there a initrd with it, so it could flash the root ubifs? Jul 02 09:34:04 http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware Jul 02 09:35:07 yeah. news feed wont update Jul 02 09:35:31 Macer: patience then! :) Jul 02 09:35:44 its a good way to care less about facebook:D Jul 02 09:37:11 haha Jul 02 09:37:14 Sosica: thanks, that doesnt really answer my question though Jul 02 09:39:07 yah. seems broken. blah heh Jul 02 09:40:06 oh. maybe not... Jul 02 09:41:28 ccx_home: the different flash options are explained there. you can flash the rootfs, the eMMC or both. Jul 02 09:45:12 i guess his problem was uploading to devel Jul 02 09:45:22 because with the deb update it seems to work Jul 02 09:47:59 :) Jul 02 10:02:08 the news feed started working after i used the deb Jul 02 10:02:21 although. it is a bit on the flakey side heh Jul 02 10:04:09 sociality has always been flaky Jul 02 10:04:36 the time it takes to get the news feed is the time i need i load up m.facebook.com and read it Jul 02 10:19:15 lol Jul 02 10:19:29 yeah buttt the mobile fb page sucks :) Jul 02 10:19:34 all the fb pages suck tbh Jul 02 10:19:45 id rather use a client if i could Jul 02 10:23:20 it didnt seem to take that long Jul 02 10:23:43 i sure wish the stock app manager wasnt slow as shit :) Jul 02 12:28:08 can I use n900 to record movie and picture? how is camrea compere to other? Jul 02 12:30:28 DrCode: its a nice 5mp camera with good optics Jul 02 12:38:02 maemo.org lightning fast for all of you? Jul 02 12:51:32 however embarrassing, the www VM resboot helped Jul 02 12:56:43 Is there specific advantage on having nitroid in one's phone, except to be able to run all the android malware? :) (phone calls are still not possible, right?) Jul 02 12:57:09 Angry Birds. Jul 02 12:57:22 And Ingress, with GPS-Mouse Jul 02 12:57:27 japa-fi: it'll burn out your battery quicker, making you charge more, and likely force you to repair USB before it breaks ;) Jul 02 12:57:32 Till somebody implements the internal GPS Jul 02 12:57:44 Apic: it's easier to cheat on Ingress with iOS though Jul 02 12:57:47 k Jul 02 12:57:58 the Ingress app on Android checks IP geolocation too ;) Jul 02 12:58:35 ^_^ Jul 02 13:00:57 Ah, learned something new today. Ingress. Looks like an interesting game Jul 02 13:02:35 Yep. Jul 02 13:02:39 World Domination. Jul 02 13:35:45 rebooting www VM Jul 02 13:35:52 (internal tests) Jul 02 13:36:55 luckily our server VMs are lightning fast Jul 02 13:37:07 rebott finished Jul 02 13:37:13 reboot even Jul 02 13:42:41 another reboot, sorry Jul 02 17:32:00 hello ! Jul 02 17:32:45 I have difficulty to push on garage.maemo.org that could help me? Jul 02 17:37:36 I compiled SVOX for N900 and I wish my published sources on the garage Jul 02 17:37:51 text to speech Jul 02 17:39:04 mickaelh: what exactly are you having difficulty with? Jul 02 17:40:37 since creating my account I had difficulties to access the GIT with https://vcs.maemo.org/git/svox or ssh://drop.maemo.org/git/svox Jul 02 17:40:57 I can easily clone with Git clone https://vcs.maemo.org/git/svox Jul 02 17:41:11 but an error for the push: Jul 02 17:41:23 fatal: git-http-push failed Jul 02 17:41:30 I then tried with SSH, but no result Jul 02 17:41:41 git push ssh :/ / drop.maemo.org / git / SVOX Jul 02 17:41:47 bad key. Jul 02 17:42:03 Permission denied (publickey). Jul 02 17:42:11 fatal: Could not read from remote repository. Jul 02 17:42:36 Even changing the public key in on my account nothing changes. Jul 02 17:42:53 that's all :) Jul 02 17:43:32 i need push my deb package Jul 02 17:45:14 should we abandon the maemo garage and promote GitHub ? Jul 02 17:46:14 hi all Jul 02 17:46:47 dose n900 come with micro usb to usb datacable? can it also charge the phone? Jul 02 17:47:03 yes, it charges over USB Jul 02 17:47:09 ok Jul 02 17:47:09 only way to charge it Jul 02 17:47:27 if I have car charger of samsung , is it the same like n900? Jul 02 17:47:47 or its simple micro usb to usb Jul 02 17:47:56 like wifi cards Jul 02 17:48:57 all my contacts are in google , can I reload them in n900? Jul 02 17:49:07 I mean contact list Jul 02 17:53:12 any microusb charger works Jul 02 17:53:22 ok Jul 02 17:53:33 I am looking for powerbank to n900 Jul 02 17:57:06 eh, powerbank? Jul 02 17:57:16 <_jester_> hello all Jul 02 17:57:24 you can use any 'USB battery' Jul 02 17:57:33 <_jester_> so my n900 finally took a stand against my constant tinkering Jul 02 17:57:54 _jester_: :'( Jul 02 17:57:57 mickaelh: the ssh key only propagates once per hour or even once per day to the other machines Jul 02 17:58:04 <_jester_> it had the nfs stale file handler issue, but when i fixed that, it just shows squares instead of text Jul 02 17:58:28 <_jester_> SpeedEvil, its not really that sad, toys can be fixed and modified :D Jul 02 17:58:47 ah Jul 02 17:59:21 <_jester_> DocScrutinizer05, and the doc is in the house, guess you were right about the 2 weeks time Jul 02 17:59:23 <_jester_> :/ Jul 02 17:59:42 SpeedEvil: D+- Jul 02 18:00:15 well, yes. Jul 02 18:00:23 * SpeedEvil is not awake. Jul 02 18:00:47 _jester_: hmm? Jul 02 18:01:26 <_jester_> DocScrutinizer05: you said, give it 2 weeks, your phone would screw up, im guessing it arrived early since it was overclocked :P Jul 02 18:01:40 DrCode: your charging device needs data lines D+ and D- shortcircuit aka connected to each other, to enable normal fastcharging Jul 02 18:02:19 <_jester_> but unfortunately the forums didnt have much search results for text turning into squares, its probably a locale issue Jul 02 18:02:58 DrCode: not a very commonly found thing on USB chargers, whether they are car chargers or powerpacks Jul 02 18:03:24 _jester_: yes, usually caused by nuking /opt Jul 02 18:03:46 DocScrutinizer05: maybe you remember cat comand on what path to check charging status? Jul 02 18:04:12 mean vales 0/1 Jul 02 18:04:24 vaules* Jul 02 18:04:42 charging ststud? Jul 02 18:04:46 status? Jul 02 18:04:53 ups yes... Jul 02 18:05:09 what exactly do you want to find out? Jul 02 18:06:15 mean which type of charging is using, or if not blink orange light always is normal charging? Jul 02 18:06:41 <_jester_> DocScrutinizer05: so my options now are to reflash emms and rootfs ? or would flashing the rootfs only work ? Jul 02 18:07:44 DocScrutinizer05: if good remember in /sys/ location somewhere... Jul 02 18:09:14 Drathir: lshal -u /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/bme Jul 02 18:09:57 _jester_: yes, flashing eMMC and then rootfs should fix it Jul 02 18:10:33 actually /opt gets restored even by only flashing rootfs, during first boot optification Jul 02 18:10:54 <_jester_> thanks DocScrutinizer05 great help as always Jul 02 18:11:09 but you might as well fisr check if there's reasonable content in /opt Jul 02 18:11:20 first* Jul 02 18:11:46 there are other issues that might cause what you see Jul 02 18:12:09 e.g we actually have a 21MB locale-cache file Jul 02 18:12:27 when that got nuked, you also will see weird effects Jul 02 18:12:38 themes messed up are another possible reason Jul 02 18:13:16 DocScrutinizer05: thanks a lot wall charger on board Jul 02 18:13:49 tbh probably creating a osso-backup of your apps (it's only a list of apps to re-install), and then flashing rootfs is your most simple option to get it sorted Jul 02 18:14:10 wall charger means "D+- short" Jul 02 18:14:33 aqnd yes, there's also a sysnode for that Jul 02 18:15:30 cat /sys/devices/platform/musb_hdrc/charger Jul 02 18:16:28 this is for sure the more direct way, that represents state in realtime Jul 02 18:16:47 while lshal is a bit lazy Jul 02 18:18:38 yes that command is that one im forgot... Jul 02 18:20:00 btw its is a normal? Jul 02 18:20:04 [19601.782714] wlan0: roaming signal from driver, sending LOWSIGNAL Jul 02 18:20:04 [19605.572021] wlan0: roaming signal from driver, sending HIGHSIGNAL Jul 02 18:21:47 normal... well I get it. There is a bugzilla ticket for issue re driver roaming Jul 02 18:23:02 thank you for your answer Jul 02 18:23:29 bug9101 Jul 02 18:23:51 that is pretty "normal", seeing it all the time Jul 02 18:23:51 my problem is detailed here http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=59933 Jul 02 18:24:06 ty all Jul 02 18:24:14 bug 9101 Jul 02 18:24:16 04Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/9101 Wifi doesn't enter power saving mode properly (wl1251: ERROR Power save entry failed, giving up) Jul 02 18:25:28 yes thats also, but great news that trying to power save mode using thats something new in better side... Jul 02 18:26:01 mickaelh: please make sure you got proper ssh key in garage, wait one day, then check. If you still face problems then, please pester me again Jul 02 18:26:31 ok Jul 02 18:33:54 mickaelh: I thought it would be, thats why I searched for that thread :) Jul 02 18:41:01 sixwheeledbeast : I have to change my key in one day Jul 02 18:41:06 :) Jul 02 18:52:06 * Drathir thinkink about building debian packages for maemo is much harder than for archlinux? Jul 02 19:07:01 http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1294063#post1294063 sounds about matching Jul 02 19:29:14 can I use sim from samsung wonder to n900 Jul 02 19:29:16 ? Jul 02 19:29:18 are thay the same? Jul 02 19:33:00 is it a microSIM? Jul 02 19:35:41 DrCode: if so no Jul 02 20:01:58 let me check Jul 02 20:01:58 don't remmber Jul 02 20:05:21 no it's SIM Jul 02 20:05:25 not microsim Jul 02 20:07:49 Presumably a mini-SIM; haven't seen the full credit-card sized SIMs around in a while. Jul 02 20:08:58 ok Jul 02 20:09:54 I was thinking to buy new samsung S4, but what changed my mind is that meamo 5 and n900 uses linux Jul 02 20:10:22 I use 90% of my time with linux, so I decide to order n900 Jul 02 20:10:44 I also watch some video that it support video camrae recorder of 720p Jul 02 20:10:46 amazing Jul 02 20:15:57 I was under the impression that "modern" phones did proper and stable-fps 1080p recording; compared to the N900's "somewhat manages a sort of 720p if you tweak it enough". Jul 02 20:47:39 Android is a Linux based OS too. Jul 02 20:56:52 nice Jul 02 20:57:01 i just realized tablet-encode can do wildcards heh Jul 02 21:14:35 linux *based* Jul 02 21:14:38 yeah Jul 02 21:15:10 kinda like linux is based on that Unix invented at Bell labs Jul 02 21:49:42 Well, uses the Linux kernel at least. Jul 02 21:56:02 heavily patched to the oblivion Jul 02 21:56:13 -the **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jul 03 01:02:05 2013 Jul 03 01:33:46 pro-tip, when working with phones, do NOT use silicone adhesive, it obviously contains silicon a semi-conductor Jul 03 01:33:55 in another news, Jacks an idiot Jul 03 02:32:30 well firefox os launched today **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Jul 03 02:59:57 2013