**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Aug 05 02:59:58 2013 Aug 05 09:51:03 Hmm very interesting, running on CSSU-Thumb (just installed recently) been on CSSU-Testing for awhile now. I'm using Pali's PAv5, whenever I hear my N900 rings I can hear both the default nokia ringtone along with my own defined ringtone for N900 to use (though with some delays for user defined ringtone). Aug 05 09:51:34 * psycho_oreos wonders if it would be a good idea to try PA CSSU v1 again. Aug 05 10:57:30 Ooh nice, looks like they've narrowed down the issue, guess that will be only set that I'll need to try. Aug 05 13:16:03 I just LOOOOOOVE my N900!. Found out that my thinkpad 430 does not have traditiona microphone input (3.5mm jack). What can I do? I use my N900 as microphone + gstreamer to strea the sound, VLC on my laptop to receive the stream muxing it to my screencast. Aug 05 13:16:26 but that should sound terrible Aug 05 13:16:31 I mean the quality of the audio Aug 05 13:16:51 what kind of audio input that laptop has then? now I'm curious Aug 05 13:17:30 Sc0rpius, I think options are either USB mic or internal mic (which had awful sound quality) Aug 05 13:17:51 I tested the sound via n900, it was very clear IMO Aug 05 13:17:52 yeah I have a USB Headset that I had to use for "emergency mic" in some cases Aug 05 13:18:07 oh, streaming was over wlan Aug 05 13:20:10 it baffles me that I haven't asked this before, but does your n900 ever simply fail to connect to any wlan/wifi until you toggle offline/airplane mode on and back off? Aug 05 13:20:43 it's funny that you ask Aug 05 13:21:04 sometimes when I try to connect to a WiFi it doesn't find any WLAN available even if they are available Aug 05 13:21:15 but if I have some WLAN already saved I can always connect to that Aug 05 13:21:19 but I can't find new ones... until I reboot Aug 05 13:21:27 now you just give me a better workaround hehehe Aug 05 13:22:10 it happens to me maybe once a month and when it does, airplane mode alawys helps. there's nothing in the kernel log that catches my eye. Aug 05 13:26:27 Many Thinkpads have a combined headphone/mic connector (including the T430 according to Lenovo spec page: "(1) 3.5mm Combo Jack Headphone/MIC"), in which case you can just get a (suitable) TRRS-to-2xTRS adapter cable and plug a regular microphone in. Aug 05 13:37:53 fizzie, darn, you spoiled all the fun :) Aug 05 13:40:17 On the other hand, then you'd have the N900 free for even more "creative" gstreamer experiments. (I've been using mine for experiments in time-lapse photography; it can jpegenc ! tcpserversink 1080p frames at a comfortable 2 fps, or 720p at 5 fps, over a very spotty wlan here at the office.) Aug 05 13:41:05 (Sadly there's nothing in particular to photograph here, except for a mostly empty road.) Aug 05 13:41:06 You use the phone as wireless "webcam" for the laptop? Aug 05 13:41:21 Well, for a desktop in this case, but yes. Aug 05 13:42:30 Cool! Aug 05 17:20:26 GeneralAntilles: ping Aug 05 17:30:43 Jaffa, pong? Aug 05 17:31:27 GeneralAntilles: 'lo Aug 05 17:31:45 GeneralAntilles: Wondered if you'd looked at this week's issue - but doesn't look like you have Aug 05 17:31:53 GeneralAntilles: (Not a problem, I'll have a look at lunch) Aug 05 17:32:15 * Jaffa has just copied create-issue.php. Step 1: tick :-) Aug 05 17:32:47 I haven't. Getting ready to list the house this week, so my spare time is near zero. Aug 05 17:33:14 Fairy nuff Aug 05 17:40:16 I have install ssh server on easydebian Aug 05 17:40:34 can I access to easydebian from maemo ssh? Aug 05 17:40:48 I did change ports to 2222 Aug 05 17:40:56 but couldn't connect Aug 05 18:12:33 DrCode: are you sure its up and running? Aug 05 18:27:04 cehteh, yes Aug 05 18:27:05 I also can't ssh inside ssh root Aug 05 18:27:24 when I do ps -ax|grep ssh Aug 05 18:27:33 when I do ps -ax|grep sshd mybe I see maemo and not chroot? Aug 05 18:27:46 netstat -tnlp gives? Aug 05 18:27:50 So I'm travelling to paris and would like to have a map application that can use a cached map Aug 05 18:27:54 Any suggestions? :) Aug 05 18:28:12 Wizzup: monav Aug 05 18:29:18 ty! Aug 05 18:32:21 I am charging my phone now Aug 05 18:32:34 dose chroot share same task with maemo? Aug 05 18:32:48 or its diffrent tasks Aug 05 18:33:03 I mean when I use ps -ax, I will see mameo tasks? Aug 05 18:38:02 you see all processes - chroot doesn't isolate processes like that Aug 05 18:40:58 Wizzup: stock Maps too ;) Aug 05 18:56:36 Wizzup: modRana with monav, d/l the tiles before you go? Aug 05 19:02:27 Sicelo: really? I didn't know stock maps could do that Aug 05 19:04:08 sixwheeledbeast: ok Aug 05 19:05:00 stock maps will download the maps if you view the area beforehand. Aug 05 19:08:01 sixwheeledbeast: through reboots? Aug 05 19:09:56 :shrug: I would think so, isn't that what ~/.nokia-maps is for? Aug 05 19:10:49 I have no clue, I thought it would just redownload it Aug 05 19:13:40 Wizzup: seems not I remeber many thread re downloading nokia maps. http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=38872 Aug 05 19:14:24 However search feature needs data Aug 05 19:15:28 yes. stock keeps maps 'forever' Aug 05 19:17:18 okay, going to reboot phone first -- keeps giving errors in the gfx driver Aug 05 19:17:19 :/ Aug 05 19:18:22 freemangordon: there?? Aug 05 19:19:13 psycho_oreos: there? Aug 05 19:19:21 SpeedEvil: ?? Aug 05 19:19:36 ? Aug 05 19:19:42 help please. Aug 05 19:19:50 ? Aug 05 19:20:17 camera is not showing anything. basically just a blank screen. kpv52 latest thumb Aug 05 19:20:19 help with? Aug 05 19:20:49 fcam driver issue perhaps? Aug 05 19:21:02 probably Aug 05 19:21:30 how to uninstall them?? Aug 05 19:22:03 got it in fapman. trying. Aug 05 19:22:48 and yes, problem with fennec 17 too. its not opening. just a waiting circle on top and then nothing. Aug 05 19:23:19 psycho_oreos: Aug 05 19:23:25 ^^ Aug 05 19:23:34 sixwheeledbeast: ^^ Aug 05 19:23:52 reflash stock - does problem reccur? Aug 05 19:24:26 have you installed fcam? Aug 05 19:24:34 ~fam Aug 05 19:24:35 i heard fapman is Faster Application Manager, a frontend for apt which uses own repositories catalog, and shouldn't be used to do system upgrades (like CSSU). It also does "apt-get autoremove" after every operation, by default. Aug 05 19:25:05 mmm I forgot that got changed :/ Aug 05 19:25:07 sixwheeledbeast: yes Aug 05 19:25:39 well I "think" you need fcam drivers from devel. Aug 05 19:25:59 SpeedEvil: i have some of the things installed from thumb repo, so cant i try cssu kernel than stock?? it used to work on v51r1. Aug 05 19:26:19 Removing fcam-drivers will remove fcam, blessn900 and/or abettercamera. They all seem to more or less depend on fcam-drivers. Aug 05 19:26:30 sixwheeledbeast: mayb the first person to suffer while trying to go al safe with extras :P Aug 05 19:26:51 psycho_oreos: trying upgrading and then will remove. Aug 05 19:27:25 fcam drivers is a known issue if it is this. Aug 05 19:27:47 sixwheeledbeast: never had ne problem with them before. Aug 05 19:27:47 fennec is also broken (at least the latest one). I don't have it working on my end anymore. Aug 05 19:28:16 psycho_oreos: so, fennec 7 works? not the thumb one?? Aug 05 19:29:09 sometimes a "apt-get install --reinstall fcam-drivers" is known to fix too I believe. Aug 05 19:29:17 I wouldn't say installing CSSU-Thumb and/or having kp52 would cause camera-ui to show nothing on the screen. I have more or less the same setup (except with the latest fcam-drivers). No issues for me. Aug 05 19:29:33 sixwheeledbeast: yep.. got solved.devel fcam were required. Aug 05 19:29:47 just upgraded them. Aug 05 19:29:57 I do believe fennec was last up to v21. fennec 7 is really old. Aug 05 19:30:19 i think thats what it is in extras. 17 was in thumb. Aug 05 19:30:31 psycho_oreos: ^^ Aug 05 19:31:08 sixwheeledbeast: if devel drivers are working then why are not they shifted to extras?? Aug 05 19:31:16 I thought so I suppose this should be pushed to extras to stop this happening Aug 05 19:31:31 ~pkg Aug 05 19:31:31 i heard pkg is http://maemo.org/packages/ Aug 05 19:31:41 sixwheeledbeast: seconds late but same thought :P Aug 05 19:32:12 changelog: 1.0.7-2 * Bump to version number to recompile for latest kernel-power version Aug 05 19:32:16 to confirm, extras-devel fcam drivers will fix prolbmes of cam not working at all Aug 05 19:32:20 I ran into this issue two weeks ago Aug 05 19:32:27 I thought it was going to be pushed to testing already back then Aug 05 19:32:55 This needs the package maintainer to promote to testing and then vote, let me double check... Aug 05 19:34:12 sixwheeledbeast: btw, whats the procedure of installing previous versions of kernel-power. ( just for info) Aug 05 19:34:23 ? Aug 05 19:37:46 no recommended. Aug 05 19:37:53 s/no/not/ Aug 05 19:37:53 sixwheeledbeast meant: not recommended. Aug 05 19:41:45 sixwheeledbeast: still, if someone is adamant to, then ?? :P ( imean in case i just wanted to revert back to kpv51r1, then) Aug 05 19:43:04 Oops, my bad. Latest fennec for maemo is 17 not 21. Aug 05 19:45:21 You will probably have to do it all by hand and hope that it will work. Aug 05 19:45:31 psycho_oreos: so does it work?? Aug 05 19:46:51 I'm installing it right now. Aug 05 19:46:56 psycho_oreos: i also got problems wih helium browser crashing out of the blue and opera12 and vkb vanishing after installing ukbd.. Aug 05 19:47:07 psycho_oreos: any help with these? Aug 05 19:48:01 I don't have helium browser, I can't quite remember if I had ukbd installed or not. Aug 05 19:48:07 opera 12 IMO is still not stable. Aug 05 19:49:19 opera 12.1beta1-16~fremantle0 is what I'm on. Aug 05 19:49:56 psycho_oreos: i still use 11. 12 crashes. Aug 05 19:50:22 anyone having a stable helium browser??? Aug 05 19:55:00 Yep I also use 11.5 due to crashes. Aug 05 19:57:35 qwerty123, fennec 12.0 (thumb optimised) is working for me albeit extremely slow. Aug 05 19:59:05 psycho_oreos: yeah i dont usually use fennec but fennec 17 had this thumb compiation that got my attention. Aug 05 20:00:03 qwerty123, it has always been slow - fennec for maemo. I think if anything, the latest version is far slower than its earliest version. Aug 05 20:01:15 psycho_oreos: thumb obviously had raised some hope for it.. Aug 05 20:02:37 qwerty123, some != guaranteed Aug 05 20:03:15 It was probably a little experiment to see if it did help speed up the process and/or not make it use as much memory. Inevitably its still slow and sluggish. Aug 05 20:03:20 psycho_oreos: yeah. anyways whats the lightest im for maemo?? Aug 05 20:03:59 qwerty123, probably conversations. Aug 05 20:04:13 that can be kept open for whole day long.. rtcom-messaging actually takes lot of cpu when in use. Aug 05 20:04:17 fennec version 8.0.1 uses a faster JIT engine anything later is pointless for maemo I believe. Aug 05 20:04:38 psycho_oreos: pidgin seemed more reasonable to me. Aug 05 20:05:21 qwerty123, except pidgin is not well integrated compared to conversations Aug 05 20:05:26 sixwheeledbeast: read that in TMO. but thats too slow for much of practical workigng. Aug 05 20:05:59 conversations plugin for IRC, is light but has little features Aug 05 20:06:02 psycho_oreos: yeah that s a drawback, but i am still searching for something yet lower cpu eater. Aug 05 20:06:37 qwerty123, you won't easily. Aug 05 20:06:41 sixwheeledbeast: everytime conversations gain any focus, the cpu shoots! Aug 05 20:07:18 xchat, irssi? Aug 05 20:07:30 terminal based. Aug 05 20:07:40 yeah will do. Aug 05 20:07:45 sixwheeledbeast: ^^ Aug 05 20:09:17 sixwheeledbeast: im i asked, not really only fo rirc. but i will mostly be doing irc only.. so thanks :) Aug 05 20:09:36 sixwheeledbeast: installing xchat. Aug 05 20:10:37 Well I'd use pidgin for multiple IM's Aug 05 20:17:38 qwerty123, there is finch which is based off pidgin but is command-line only based. Too bad its not available for maemo (which means you'll need to compile it yourself). Aug 05 20:18:25 qwerty123: what other IM protocols do you use, XMPP is supported in conversations. Aug 05 20:18:51 sixwheeledbeast: usually fb. Aug 05 20:19:12 supported in conversations have a look Aug 05 20:19:16 sixwheeledbeast: fb is xmpp based. Aug 05 20:19:44 sixwheeledbeast: i have that there. :) thanks for your answer. Aug 05 20:36:07 set up irrssi? Aug 05 20:42:13 http://www.irssi.org/documentation Aug 05 20:44:36 heh... Aug 05 20:44:38 you can even get away with no particular setup :P Aug 05 20:44:45 suddenly a gtk+ scroll bar appeared in my n900 conversations Aug 05 20:44:56 and trying to scroll will just select text Aug 05 20:47:29 Wizzup: same for me Aug 05 20:47:36 i have no idea whatsoever of how to diagnose it Aug 05 20:47:44 and it's a gecko scrollbar, not a gtk+ scrollbar Aug 05 20:48:46 kerio: any idea when that happened? Aug 05 20:48:49 nope Aug 05 20:48:53 It's new for me Aug 05 20:48:57 what have you done? Aug 05 20:49:00 as in -- probably as of today Aug 05 20:49:09 I installed modrana and monav Aug 05 20:49:12 mh Aug 05 20:49:17 just that? Aug 05 20:49:17 modrana had lots of dependencies Aug 05 20:49:22 well, lots of dependencies as well Aug 05 20:50:27 eeh, modrana only has python-* stuff Aug 05 20:50:37 and espeak, and qt-components-10 Aug 05 20:50:47 neither feels related to Conversations Aug 05 20:53:13 gaah it's such a fucking mess all over the place **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Aug 06 02:59:58 2013