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Aug 07 03:00:11 <ecc3g> I write stupid little scripts too, they tend to work?
Aug 07 03:00:15 <Sysaxed> echo -e '#!/bin/sh\ncase "$(sfdisk -c $(echo $1 | cut -c1-12) $(echo $1 | cut -c14))" in\n  43|83)\n    mount -t auto -o $3,noauto,nosuid,noatime,nodiratime "$1" "$2" > /dev/null\n    ;;\n  *)\n    '$(cat /usr/sbin/mmc-mount)'\n    ;;\nesac' > /usr/sbin
Aug 07 03:01:09 <ecc3g> cutting and pasting random scripts can be dangerous, yes...
Aug 07 03:19:38 <qwerty123> mtracker from devel gives dpkg error on uninstalling and dpkg --configure -a gives nothing!
Aug 07 03:20:42 <qwerty123> and gcc 4.6 takes 21 mb of rootfs!! is it okay??
Aug 07 03:21:58 <qwerty123> freemangordon : ^
Aug 07 03:21:59 <qwerty123> ^
Aug 07 03:22:21 <bef0rd> yes
Aug 07 03:22:22 <bef0rd> (?)
Aug 07 03:22:44 <bef0rd> its not optified, so its going to take space in rootfs, if you really need it install it
Aug 07 03:25:13 <psycho_oreos> GCC (along with the rest of the compiling/debugging etc tools) were never really designed to be installed on N900 itself. If one were to go about installing these, they should have at least the very common sense that it will instead (by default) install into rootfs because it assumes you are using scratchbox.
Aug 07 03:27:31 <qwerty123> okay!! anyways i have enuf space left in rootfs !! :P but and havenot really cleared
Aug 07 03:28:03 <qwerty123> rootfs!! so is it okay if i optify gcc??
Aug 07 03:28:11 <psycho_oreos> s/ery/ery basic/
Aug 07 03:28:12 <infobot> psycho_oreos meant: GCC (along with the rest of the compiling/debugging etc tools) were never really designed to be installed on N900 itself. If one were to go about installing these, they should have at least the very basic common sense that it will instead (by default) ins...
Aug 07 03:29:10 <psycho_oreos> You probably can optify, but you need to do it properly.
Aug 07 03:30:29 <qwerty123> yeah!! i have optified in past, but not realy touched gcc! i remember, microb optification had caused my vkb to just flash n browser unusable...
Aug 07 03:32:50 <qwerty123> btw, using pidgin for irc!! takes less than 15 percent cpu wen in use!! n less than 3 percent wen idle!!
Aug 07 03:33:25 <qwerty123> only shoots to about 12 13 percent when send is pressed!
Aug 07 03:34:53 <qwerty123> and , yes one more problem!! with my latest cssu, my dbus daemon is takin much more cpu n time! i use dbus wid shortcutd bt its still more when not in use!
Aug 07 03:35:45 <psycho_oreos> Also there's nothing known as mtracker, its known as mod-support (unless you went about installing other fancy stuff from -devel knowing full well they can cause undesired effects).
Aug 07 03:37:00 <qwerty123> well, that was just a time tracker, more like stop watch stuff from devel. seemed prettyharmless, just uninstallation caused some errors!! 
Aug 07 03:38:08 <qwerty123> it reported errors but its uninstalled now!!
Aug 07 03:38:25 <qwerty123> not in fapman atleast!! :)
Aug 07 03:39:37 <psycho_oreos> If there were errors during either installation or removal of packages, dpkg keeps a record. It will be visible to a more knowledgeable person.
Aug 07 03:41:39 <qwerty123> sorry!! not a knowledge person i am.. and fapman had cleared its log. so couldnot take a look at it..
Aug 07 03:45:18 <psycho_oreos> I said dpkg, not fapman.
Aug 07 03:51:04 <psycho_oreos> IMHO, a more sane person wouldn't go about installing things without proper knowing what and why such entities are placed there. There are abundant CLI tools which not many people realise that GUI heavily depend on. Last but not least, its your own N900 you are free to do whatever you want with it (which even includes borking your own setup).
Aug 07 04:40:56 <Lava_Croft> http://www.informationweek.com/security/attacks/https-hackable-in-30-seconds-dhs-alert/240159435
Aug 07 05:50:18 <freemangordon> Pali: hi.
Aug 07 05:51:15 <freemangordon> Pali: I almost finished filling http://wiki.maemo.org/CSSU_kernel_assess
Aug 07 05:51:33 <Pali> freemangordon: hi, I got email from maemo wiki :-) 
Aug 07 05:51:41 <freemangordon> ooh, noce
Aug 07 05:51:46 <Pali> so I saw changes :-)
Aug 07 05:51:49 <freemangordon> *nice
Aug 07 05:52:09 <freemangordon> Pali: but what remains are your patches
Aug 07 05:52:14 <freemangordon> (and hostmode)
Aug 07 05:52:39 <freemangordon> I can't remember what was decided about hostmode
Aug 07 05:54:11 <freemangordon> Pali: BTW, in case you've missed it, fremantle autobuilder/package interface(promotion) works
Aug 07 05:56:39 <Pali> I read it, nice :-)
Aug 07 05:57:13 <Pali> patch nilfs2-2.0.18.diff: it can be enabled only adding nilfs kernel module
Aug 07 05:57:24 <freemangordon> Pali: I know it is nice :P. Promote KP, KPS and all the others packages that were stuck ;)
Aug 07 05:57:47 <Pali> patch option_disable_indicator_led.diff: can be enabled too it adding sysfs entry for disabling back camera led
Aug 07 05:58:02 <freemangordon> Pali: hmm?
Aug 07 05:58:11 <Pali> patch trig-keyb.diff: I do not know what that patch is...
Aug 07 05:58:41 <freemangordon> just finish the table, there are 5 entries left
Aug 07 05:58:44 <Pali> and wl1251 patches: it fixing monitor mode support, support for nl8021 stack
Aug 07 05:59:10 <Pali> I have lot of other work now, so I edit them later...
Aug 07 05:59:16 <freemangordon> sure
Aug 07 08:03:46 <Iridos> multiple exclamation marks, he continued... are a sure sign of a diseased mind
Aug 07 10:00:10 <Nun> hello
Aug 07 10:00:44 <Nun> i want to know how to play mkv files on n900
Aug 07 10:03:26 <psycho_oreos> extra decoders support.
Aug 07 10:05:53 <Nun> thank you but I installed it and it plays video with shuttering
Aug 07 10:06:28 <Nun> do i need to use dsp profile ?
Aug 07 10:06:36 <psycho_oreos> Maybe the quality is too high.
Aug 07 10:06:58 <psycho_oreos> You can try but ymmv.
Aug 07 10:08:07 <Nun> also there is package in cssu thumb providing support for mkv and flv but on installing it gave errors
Aug 07 12:07:25 <Sysaxed> is it safe to install stuff using apt-get instead of fapman or ham?
Aug 07 12:09:19 <psycho_oreos> Depends, in fair few cases no.
Aug 07 12:10:00 <Sysaxed> psycho_oreos: in few cases like what?
Aug 07 12:10:45 <Sysaxed> also https://wiki.maemo.org/Talk:N900_The_Perfect_Setup suggests apt-pinning, and faster application manager said a few bad words about it
Aug 07 12:11:18 <Sysaxed> so, is it fine to use fapman with apt-pinning? or should I use apt-pinning at all?
Aug 07 12:15:07 <kerio> Sysaxed: if you have to ask, it's not safe
Aug 07 12:16:02 <psycho_oreos> apt-get upgrade cases for instance.
Aug 07 12:16:14 <Sysaxed> ok, but besides upgrade it should be fine?
Aug 07 12:16:24 <Sysaxed> and what about other questions? :)
Aug 07 12:16:57 <kerio> fapman is less safe than apt-get
Aug 07 12:18:17 <kerio> apt-get tells you what it's about to do in detail
Aug 07 12:20:47 <psycho_oreos> HAM is the most safest, apt-get with some caution, then fapman.
Aug 07 12:21:11 <psycho_oreos> safe != foolproof
Aug 07 12:30:28 <Sysaxed> oh, then apt-get all the way
Aug 07 12:48:24 <psycho_oreos> The general rule of thumb goes that if you are formidable with CLI stuff including troubleshooting and fixing stuff in CLI, then use apt-get. Otherwise don't.
Aug 07 12:48:25 <Lava_Croft> what does apt-get install tell you more than fapman install
Aug 07 13:03:32 <psycho_oreos> I personally don't think its a matter of which tells you more. There are users out there who would probably never to read logs until something breaks. Therefore apt-get would tell it "right in your face" sort of thing.
Aug 07 13:19:55 <psycho_oreos> Sysaxed, did also managed to get that eMMC converted to ext fs? I was away when you wrote all those messages later on.
Aug 07 13:21:15 <Sysaxed> psycho_oreos: yes
Aug 07 13:21:34 <Sysaxed> there was a problem with one of the commands
Aug 07 13:21:48 <Sysaxed> the one which pastes the contents of a file to itself
Aug 07 13:21:56 <Sysaxed> but I did it manually and now it is working corretly
Aug 07 13:21:58 <Sysaxed> c
Aug 07 13:22:51 <Sysaxed> Oh, one problem is that I still can't get things to automount, but if I run fdisk -l /dev/sdb - it automounts
Aug 07 13:23:03 <Sysaxed> cat will work as well..
Aug 07 13:23:04 <Sysaxed> weird
Aug 07 13:23:52 <psycho_oreos> automount from the host or within N900 itself?
Aug 07 13:24:40 <Sysaxed> from the pc
Aug 07 13:24:45 <Sysaxed> n900 is fine
Aug 07 13:25:03 <Sysaxed> but I guess it's a problem with my automount on pc.. so whatever
Aug 07 13:25:34 <Sysaxed> how to change default shell to bash? sudo chsh /bin/bash4 ?
Aug 07 13:26:14 <LjL-Alps> what do you recommend using for e-mail on the N900? i see Modest seems a bit, uh, modest, and specifically it has no "push" provisions. is it a good idea to use IMAP push somehow, and if so, how? i see there's this QtMail/QMF package for instance
Aug 07 13:26:42 <psycho_oreos> I think I did it awhile ago (changing from busybox ash to bash) via manually editing the /etc/passwd iinm.
Aug 07 13:27:50 * psycho_oreos hardly ever uses email on the N900 itself. If anything it was really using *cough* webmail.
Aug 07 13:28:12 <Sysaxed> psycho_oreos: I've done it several times but still can't remember
Aug 07 13:28:24 <Sysaxed> psycho_oreos: should I change for user only or root as well?
Aug 07 13:29:43 <psycho_oreos> Sysaxed, ideally only the user.
Aug 07 13:30:13 <psycho_oreos> You may want to change root sh to bash if later on you want root to be using bash and/or you ssh into N900 as root.
Aug 07 13:35:43 <SAiF> Greetings...
Aug 07 13:36:22 <Sysaxed> I remember there were boot problems with root as bash
Aug 07 13:36:49 <SAiF> I cant get the calling screen in portrait mode, however if I use landscape, ie kb slide out it works...
Aug 07 13:40:16 <ecc3g> What webmail works well on the n900?  I actually use modest quite a bit, actually even set up imap on my home machine so I can check my mail without sshing in...
Aug 07 13:40:37 <psycho_oreos> I recall a fair few may have done a dirty trick into symlinking /bin/sh to /bin/bash which needless to say causes bootloops.
Aug 07 13:41:07 <ecc3g> (the trick was trying to get my home pc to relay mail for my n900 with authentication...)
Aug 07 13:41:33 <SAiF> my default mail client works well.
Aug 07 13:41:42 <SAiF> using gmail
Aug 07 13:41:55 <psycho_oreos> I was using gmail on N900 but that's awhile ago really.
Aug 07 13:42:26 <psycho_oreos> SAiF, that might be an issue if using CSSU-S. Though somewhat a little offtopic.
Aug 07 13:42:30 <ecc3g> I guess I never tried www.gmail.com directly, I just have modest pointing to gmail
Aug 07 13:42:35 * psycho_oreos recalls there was a thread about it.
Aug 07 13:43:34 <SAiF> i reflashed two days ago, installed cssu-testing and some apps and the h-e-n and last was kernel power.
Aug 07 13:44:08 <SAiF> and followed n900 perfect setup
Aug 07 13:47:27 <psycho_oreos> Weird, then that leaves me to do other possible outcomes: 1) You may have to adjust blacklist using the old fashioned way or even whitelist. I'm not sure what they use now for enabling/disabling certain programs from going into portrait mode (when it breaks they layout). 2) You may have that orientation lock enabled, thouogh this wouldn't make much sense if you slid your keyboard out and the dialer went into portrait mode.
Aug 07 13:54:12 <SAiF> where can I get that orientation lock..selection screen
Aug 07 13:56:28 <psycho_oreos> http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=85756
Aug 07 14:03:19 <Sysaxed> what was the name of a widget that allowed turning on/off wifi and bluetooth
Aug 07 14:03:41 <Sysaxed> and there was an option to choose between stock and bleeding edge wifi
Aug 07 14:05:21 <Sysaxed> well, not a widget but a menu button
Aug 07 14:09:33 <psycho_oreos> status-area-wlan-driver-selector-applet
Aug 07 14:22:22 <Sysaxed> psycho_oreos: thanks, but I don't think it's able to switch bluetooth as well?
Aug 07 14:22:47 <Sysaxed> oh
Aug 07 14:22:58 <psycho_oreos> no
Aug 07 14:22:58 <Sysaxed> it's called advanced interface switcher
Aug 07 14:22:59 <Sysaxed> http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=60473
Aug 07 14:36:18 <LjL-Alps> that's a useful applet, you can use it instead of a bunch of others
Aug 07 14:37:00 <LjL-Alps> is firefox distributed by firefox.com a much updated version than the Fennec in extras-devel?
Aug 07 14:37:50 <SAiF> fennec works?
Aug 07 14:38:48 <LjL-Alps> very slowly, here
Aug 07 14:39:20 <SAiF> tried it yesterday.. didnt work.
Aug 07 14:39:50 <LjL-Alps> also i see Chromium has been removed from extras because of some patent whiner... bit appalled by that :\
Aug 07 14:41:08 <SAiF> by the way happy Eid-ul-Fitr
Aug 07 14:45:59 <SAiF> psycho_oreos: status-area-orientationlock-applet doesnt make any difference in calling menu
Aug 07 14:48:12 <psycho_oreos> Chromium is still available elsewhere but its not updated.
Aug 07 14:48:25 <psycho_oreos> SAiF, so check relevant blacklist/whitelist.
Aug 07 16:26:32 <Pali> freemangordon: KP52 is still missing here: http://maemo.org/packages/view/kernel-power/
Aug 07 16:28:35 <Pali> freemangordon: is promotion of packages working?
Aug 07 16:28:46 <Pali> I think still not :-(
Aug 07 16:31:34 <sixwheeledbeast> Pali: it should be which package?
Aug 07 16:31:42 <sixwheeledbeast> KP?
Aug 07 16:31:48 <Pali> http://maemo.org/packages/view/callnotify/
Aug 07 16:32:07 <Pali> http://maemo.org/packages/view/fiasco-image-update-ask/
Aug 07 16:32:22 <Pali> http://maemo.org/packages/view/libicd-network-ipv6-scripts/
Aug 07 16:32:34 <Pali> http://maemo.org/packages/view/ipv6-support/
Aug 07 16:33:01 <Pali> sixwheeledbeast: It looks like every my package has: Package promoted but missing in extras-testing
Aug 07 16:33:07 <sixwheeledbeast> Do you not have an option to promote them?
Aug 07 16:33:21 <Pali> no
Aug 07 16:33:28 <Pali> promote button is not visible
Aug 07 16:34:03 <Pali> I tried to promote fiasco-image-update-ask some minutes ago
Aug 07 16:34:13 <Pali> so I can wait if this will work
Aug 07 16:34:38 <Pali> but other packages definitily are missing in extras-testing interface and promote button from extras-devel version missing too
Aug 07 16:35:04 <Pali> sixwheeledbeast: Can you look at other (not fiasco) packages?
Aug 07 16:51:28 <kerio> Pali: what's callnotify?
Aug 07 16:52:30 <kerio> Pali: bug report on bmerep/batteryapplet: there's a point where bq24k still hasn't started charging again (it was at 96% according to bq27k) but there was no green led
Aug 07 16:52:54 <kerio> it went pulsing orange -> green -> nothing for a while
Aug 07 16:56:40 <ecc3g> fsck. my ac10c is broken.  
Aug 07 16:57:03 <kerio> i don't think fscking it will help
Aug 07 16:57:30 <kerio> especially the stock version
Aug 07 16:59:24 <ecc3g> I think the strain relief on the wart side is borked.
Aug 07 16:59:26 <kerio> freemangordon: the people demand a new fennec build
Aug 07 18:13:48 <Pali> kerio: only battery applet / hal does not report charging? or also kernel drivers refuse to start charging?
Aug 07 18:14:50 <Pali> sixwheeledbeast: here is list of other packages which are without "promote" button:
Aug 07 18:14:58 <Pali> http://maemo.org/packages/view/wide-dhcpv6-client/
Aug 07 18:15:04 <Pali> http://maemo.org/packages/view/ussd4all/
Aug 07 18:15:10 <Pali> http://maemo.org/packages/view/u-boot-tools/
Aug 07 18:15:15 <Pali> http://maemo.org/packages/view/u-boot-flasher/
Aug 07 18:15:22 <Pali> http://maemo.org/packages/view/u-boot-bootimg/
Aug 07 18:15:30 <Pali> http://maemo.org/packages/view/libicd-network-ipv6-scripts/
Aug 07 18:15:56 <Pali> http://maemo.org/packages/view/ipv6-support/
Aug 07 18:16:32 <Pali> and kernel power packages which totally missing in interface (last version 52):
Aug 07 18:16:40 <Pali> http://maemo.org/packages/view/kernel-power/
Aug 07 18:16:44 <Pali> http://maemo.org/packages/view/kernel-power-bootimg/
Aug 07 18:16:49 <Pali> http://maemo.org/packages/view/kernel-power-modules/
Aug 07 18:16:59 <Pali> http://maemo.org/packages/view/kernel-power-settings/
Aug 07 18:17:19 <Pali> http://maemo.org/packages/view/kernel-power-flasher/
Aug 07 18:34:16 <kerio> Pali: no no, it's just a UI problem i think
Aug 07 18:34:37 <Pali> kerio: provide output of hal-device bme
Aug 07 18:35:37 <kerio> not now
Aug 07 19:23:59 <lexik> Hi :) so ive tried to register to TMO and this is what i get: "You have left a required field blank.".. ideas? ("i agree" button checked..) also im preparing a "USB fix how-to" (status now: microUsb's from dx.com ordered") thats the reason why i want to register to TMO - to share with you my soldering-skills fail :P
Aug 07 19:25:13 <ashley> lexik: what browser/OS? it did that for me on Windows 7/Internet Explorer 10 (hence why I still haven't registered at TMO)
Aug 07 19:26:05 <lexik> sadly im now using old MS WinXP with Chrome
Aug 07 19:26:27 <lexik> but ive get the same "error" on my linux box with chromium
Aug 07 19:26:56 <lexik> (and also on my n900 with microb)
Aug 07 19:27:11 <lexik> but.. does it matter?
Aug 07 19:28:48 <lexik> going afk.. your opinions i will read in log :)) thx :)
Aug 07 20:19:00 <psycho_oreos> lexik && ashley, I've added a bug on that issue: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12703
Aug 07 20:19:01 <povbot_> 04Bug 12703: Unable to register on talk.maemo.org forums.
Aug 07 20:19:58 <ashley> psycho_oreos: alright, thanks :)
Aug 07 20:21:14 <psycho_oreos> ashley, no worries. Thanks for confirming as well. Though it'd be nice if you could somehow also register on maemo bugzilla to confirm it :)
Aug 07 20:23:37 <ashley> I /should/ even have a BZ account, just need to try to remember its password...
Aug 07 20:28:24 <ashley> alright, registered and voted
Aug 07 21:14:34 <lexik> So ive just read the "Saera thread" and ive started thinking about a "true" AI :) here is what im going to play with: www.pybrain.org
Aug 07 21:16:55 <lexik> but i seriously have no idea how powerful it could be on N900 HW... maybe create a grid of n900 and make a decetralized n900 based brain :D.. ok.. thats utopy but im going to take a look on it.. it could be interesting
Aug 07 21:52:35 <sixwheeledbeast> ~seen Pali
Aug 07 21:52:37 <infobot> pali <~pali@Maemo/community/contributor/Pali> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 3h 18m ago, saying: 'kerio: provide output of hal-device bme'.
Aug 07 22:55:56 <LjL-Alps> 1) is it typically worth to make some adjustments to the default Maemo 5 swap parameters, and if so, are the parameters suggested by Swappolube any good? 2) does compcache at least tend to not make matter worse?
Aug 08 00:59:53 <HtheB> robbiethe1st: hi
Aug 08 01:00:07 <HtheB> how are you? 
Aug 08 01:00:15 <robbiethe1st> Hi there
Aug 08 01:00:44 <robbiethe1st> Did I tell you? the second/third or w/e package didn't come as of last Sunday that i know of
Aug 08 01:00:48 <robbiethe1st> I'll check this weekend
Aug 08 01:01:02 <HtheB> could be, I just had some message from ebay that they were just sent
Aug 08 01:01:13 <HtheB> (just marked as sent)
Aug 08 01:01:25 <HtheB> still no hurries.. :D
Aug 08 01:01:26 <HtheB> dont worry
Aug 08 01:01:40 <HtheB> (thats the enjoyment of completing a collection)
Aug 08 01:01:45 <HtheB> it takes time ^_^
Aug 08 01:01:49 <HtheB> and patience :D
Aug 08 01:01:57 <robbiethe1st> Patience?
Aug 08 01:02:02 <robbiethe1st> I ain't got no patience!
Aug 08 01:02:06 <HtheB> O_O
Aug 08 01:02:25 <HtheB> =(
Aug 08 01:02:46 <robbiethe1st> 's why I got annoyed about not being able to pass people in my '88 Diesel truck, and threw my new turbo on last weekend
Aug 08 01:03:02 <robbiethe1st> Instead of, you know, waiting until I had all the parts right etc.
Aug 08 01:03:17 <robbiethe1st> So it's missing a gasket or two, there's no exhaust in the truck..
Aug 08 01:03:33 <HtheB> no exhaust?
Aug 08 01:03:39 <HtheB> kinda hard to drive eh
Aug 08 01:03:45 <robbiethe1st> Why?
Aug 08 01:03:51 <robbiethe1st> It's a bit loud, but...
Aug 08 01:04:17 <HtheB> what kind of a truck is it?
Aug 08 01:04:19 <robbiethe1st> The outflow pipe from the turbo basically stops right at the bottom of the engine. just open from there
Aug 08 01:04:24 <HtheB> pick up?
Aug 08 01:04:29 <HtheB> Monster truck? :D
Aug 08 01:05:10 <robbiethe1st> 88 F250: http://robbiethe1st.afraid.org/images/Rescue-20130520/20130519_007.jpg
Aug 08 01:05:31 <robbiethe1st> Nicotine yellow/brown truck in front
Aug 08 01:05:36 <HtheB> pickup it is
Aug 08 01:05:57 <robbiethe1st> http://robbiethe1st.afraid.org/images/truck/20130804_010.jpg
Aug 08 01:05:58 <robbiethe1st> engine
Aug 08 01:06:15 <HtheB> classic
Aug 08 01:06:17 <robbiethe1st> 7.3L idi, mechanical injection.
Aug 08 01:06:22 <HtheB> mech injection
Aug 08 01:06:23 <HtheB> yeah
Aug 08 01:06:39 <robbiethe1st> It's cool because the engine can be made to run without any power what so ever.
Aug 08 01:06:45 <HtheB> yeah
Aug 08 01:07:11 <HtheB> how much did this cost you?
Aug 08 01:07:48 <robbiethe1st> Free(sort of) - got it from my parents, because they weren't using it. It cost them $2500 a few years back
Aug 08 01:08:02 <robbiethe1st> However, I've probably put $1500 into it so far
Aug 08 01:08:20 <HtheB> how much worth is it not?
Aug 08 01:08:23 <HtheB> now*
Aug 08 01:08:49 <robbiethe1st> Nothing? Nah, probably a good $1500, perhaps $2000 in scrap/parts
Aug 08 01:09:06 <robbiethe1st> It's a vehicle that will never be sold for money. It's a driver, and that's it.
Aug 08 01:09:35 <HtheB> well, maybe for a classic lover?
Aug 08 01:09:39 <robbiethe1st> When it's no longer useful(crashed, or whatever), I'll pull whatever parts I want off of it and put it in the weeds as a spare parts truck
Aug 08 01:10:04 <robbiethe1st> Nah, these things are common as dirt over here - You can find ones in much better shape than mine on craigslist all the time
Aug 08 01:10:24 <robbiethe1st> What it is, though, is a daily driver.
Aug 08 01:10:46 <robbiethe1st> To me, it's worth a good 5-8K+, as I'd have to spend that much to get a compariable vehicle
Aug 08 01:17:58 <robbiethe1st> http://robbiethe1st.afraid.org/images/truck/20130528_004.jpg dash
Aug 08 01:18:02 <robbiethe1st> with my mods
Aug 08 01:18:22 <robbiethe1st> sorry, http://robbiethe1st.afraid.org/images/truck/20130528_005.jpg
Aug 08 01:28:12 <HtheB> nice
Aug 08 01:31:48 <HtheB> i have a Mitsubish Colt
Aug 08 01:31:50 <HtheB> Cz3
Aug 08 01:32:30 <HtheB> http://fotos.marktplaats.com/kopen/9/c0/Zw6zC9QRMl77erpIExl4oA==.jpg
Aug 08 01:32:49 <HtheB> yes, a white car :P
Aug 08 01:37:42 <robbiethe1st> Hm, a speed bump
Aug 08 01:37:46 <robbiethe1st> <_<
Aug 08 01:37:57 <robbiethe1st> Sorry
Aug 08 01:38:26 <RST38h> robbie: What do you do with those wall switches?
Aug 08 01:38:53 <robbiethe1st> Replace original functions - left two are Windshield wipers (on/off) (high/low)
Aug 08 01:39:37 <robbiethe1st> The white one is "main power", button next to it is for the starter
Aug 08 01:40:17 <robbiethe1st> Bypassed the original starter switch circuit due to the silly interlock preventing you from cranking it with the clutch out
Aug 08 01:40:30 <RST38h> robbie: you obviously need larger, more menacing buttons
Aug 08 01:40:36 <robbiethe1st> (and, therefor, preventing you from moving it with the starter, if needed)
Aug 08 01:40:47 <robbiethe1st> RST38h, yeah, I've been thinking about it
Aug 08 01:40:53 <RST38h> standard issue US wall switches just don't cut it
Aug 08 01:41:25 <robbiethe1st> But they do bring nerd cred. Nobody talks about toggle switches "Oh, it's just another toggle switch"
Aug 08 01:41:29 <robbiethe1st> Light switches, however...
Aug 08 01:41:43 <robbiethe1st> Everyone I've shown it to has asked about them
Aug 08 01:42:00 <RST38h> robbie: http://electronebo.ru/electronebo/img/pv3_16m156.jpg
Aug 08 01:42:21 <RST38h> robbie: and install 'em on vertical aluminium pipes painted red
Aug 08 01:42:31 <robbiethe1st> heh
Aug 08 01:43:26 <robbiethe1st> What I *really* want to do is find one of the start switches for here: http://www.purplewaveauction.com/i/a/2012/20120516midwest/V9059.JPG
Aug 08 01:43:37 <robbiethe1st> (right side, halfway down the generator)
Aug 08 01:43:55 <RST38h> naaaah
Aug 08 01:44:04 <robbiethe1st> metal handle/knob, has off/on/start position and is just good and "solid"
Aug 08 01:44:14 <RST38h> http://cs-cs.net/wp-uploads/2013/03/Paketn01-Title.jpg
Aug 08 01:45:16 <robbiethe1st> Old ones
Aug 08 01:45:42 <RST38h> they don't make new ones as they used to =)
Aug 08 01:45:46 <robbiethe1st> Yeah
Aug 08 01:46:15 <RST38h> http://dic.academic.ru/pictures/polytechnic/1302-40.jpg
Aug 08 01:46:17 <robbiethe1st> Hell, those house switches are probably 10-30 years old, so...
Aug 08 01:48:14 <RST38h> actually the easiest thing will be to steal a whole trolley switch panel somewhere
Aug 08 01:48:32 <RST38h> with 20-30 switches on it =)
Aug 08 01:53:19 <robbiethe1st> heh
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