**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Aug 11 02:59:59 2013 Aug 11 07:10:31 quassel is a nice alternative for irssi proxy Aug 11 07:10:37 but you end up using irssi anyway Aug 11 07:10:43 znc+xchat ftw Aug 11 07:10:56 yeah need a gui to display text Aug 11 07:11:22 on a really small screen? yes Aug 11 07:11:33 osso-xterm only gets readable at 79x25 (when fullscreen) Aug 11 07:11:37 shit's small, yo Aug 11 07:11:54 99x20 here Aug 11 07:11:56 works fine Aug 11 07:12:21 anyhow, irc clients is like discussing linux distros Aug 11 07:12:32 you end up comparing thing you dont want to compare in public Aug 11 07:12:41 i have a social standing to adhere to Aug 11 07:12:45 :) Aug 11 07:36:39 Lava_Croft: why would you end up using irssi? Aug 11 07:41:04 i can acess it from anywhere Aug 11 07:41:13 without needing an xserver orso Aug 11 07:41:41 i can use ssh or its builtin proxy to access it Aug 11 07:41:59 although the builtin proxy isnt that great Aug 11 07:43:32 http://quadpoint.org/articles/irssi/ is a good starting point, Luke-Jr Aug 11 07:43:56 point of a handheld is you always have an X server <.< Aug 11 07:52:19 i dont want or need x to display text Aug 11 07:52:30 i need x for displaying graphics etc Aug 11 07:53:14 i could connect to my irssi session using xchat, but thats just horrible on n90 Aug 11 07:53:19 N900* Aug 11 07:57:42 hmm Aug 11 07:57:46 i left cookie experiment running Aug 11 07:58:00 turn on monitor and see: http://i.imgur.com/titKKzh.jpg Aug 11 07:58:06 Now I try to unsee Aug 11 08:04:31 freemangordon: look at last mail about rx51 thumb errata Aug 11 08:49:24 Pali: on lkml? Aug 11 08:49:31 yes Aug 11 09:02:33 Pali: link to lkml.org? Aug 11 09:02:45 I do not have link now Aug 11 09:03:11 freemangordon got mail to mailbox Aug 11 09:24:08 https://lkml.org/lkml/2013/3/31/52 -- From a simple google search. Aug 11 09:26:43 https://lkml.org/lkml/2013/7/10/387 -- Almost a month ago, from Dave in re: RX-51 thumb errata. Aug 11 10:16:06 psycho_oreos: a recent email, i thought Aug 11 10:46:24 kerio, *shrugs* that's as recent as the last time google's spider bot went crawling through. Aug 11 12:34:10 What do you guys think of the ubuntu edge? Aug 11 12:36:42 what so edgy about it? Aug 11 12:51:01 edge is ugly Aug 11 12:51:33 and i dont want the worst of two worlds: androind and ubuntu Aug 11 12:51:45 unholy convergence Aug 11 13:16:25 Lava_Croft: like 90s edgy superheroes? :) Aug 11 13:16:48 i've never been into superheos Aug 11 13:16:51 im not a religious man Aug 11 13:17:12 arent the superheros these days edgier? Aug 11 13:17:21 they all have some kind of dark background and scary secret Aug 11 13:17:28 they are all tormented, no matter if its peter parker or wolverine Aug 11 13:17:40 Lava_Croft: the 90s, it was edgy for the sake of edgy Aug 11 13:18:03 giant muscles and guns and drugs Aug 11 13:18:12 and it was bad Aug 11 13:18:36 oh, thjat Aug 11 13:18:39 you mean ACTIO heros Aug 11 13:18:42 action* Aug 11 13:18:45 like the american action heros Aug 11 13:19:02 today you have movies like The Expendables for that Aug 11 13:19:07 * Lava_Croft coughs Aug 11 13:19:24 http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NinetiesAntiHero Aug 11 13:19:45 the title cover says it all Aug 11 13:20:08 oh my Aug 11 13:20:15 you made me remember why i didnt lik comics Aug 11 13:20:20 im born in '81 Aug 11 13:20:43 yeah, the comics code died and everyone wanted in on the new edgy stuff Aug 11 13:21:03 im a born and bred bookreader Aug 11 13:38:15 any other app usefull for acessing n900 filesystem over wifi other than remote multi drive? Aug 11 13:39:46 sshfs Aug 11 13:39:55 scp, sftp Aug 11 13:45:11 sshfs is bog standard Aug 11 13:45:32 I wish all the devices would do that instead of doing some funny payware Aug 11 13:54:05 i found an smb server for n900 that's easier for me to use than ssh and i guess i'll use that :) Aug 11 13:54:13 don't be silly Aug 11 13:54:19 configuring samba is a pain in the ass Aug 11 13:55:37 not one that has a gui :) Aug 11 13:56:15 * kerio doesn't get it Aug 11 13:56:33 sftp is already configured Aug 11 13:56:54 there's literally nothing to do to use it except typing in your password Aug 11 13:57:01 or using a keyfile Aug 11 14:01:34 typing password? DUH Aug 11 14:02:23 ohai doc Aug 11 14:05:07 http://wstaw.org/m/2013/08/11/plasma-desktopTU3743.png Aug 11 14:06:07 there's also sftp://root@bp and sftp://root@t900 bookmarks Aug 11 14:06:59 smb/cifs, blaergh! Aug 11 14:08:24 so if i use sftp could i also login as root and copy files from the /home or /opt folder? Aug 11 14:09:08 if so than that's way better Aug 11 14:09:31 sure Aug 11 14:09:49 DocScrutinizer05: you're a (KIO)slave to your GUI >:( Aug 11 14:09:53 all files/dirs in that konqueror window are exactly like local files Aug 11 14:10:30 (and yeah, i'm bitter cuz os x can't do sftp://) Aug 11 14:11:07 I even can open files in kwrite/kate for editing, compress them in Ark, copy them from one remote device to another one, e.g. directly from my N900 to maemo.cloud-7.de, etc Aug 11 14:11:42 sshfs can do that too Aug 11 14:11:48 sure Aug 11 14:12:06 but sshfs/fuse you need to mount Aug 11 14:12:29 hard to do that inside a bookmark Aug 11 14:12:42 ...i wonder if there's an "autosshfs" fuse filesystem Aug 11 14:12:52 my n900 files are literally 3 mousclicks away Aug 11 14:13:10 no REAL man would ever use a mouse Aug 11 14:13:14 one for opening bookmark menu, one for bookmark, one on the file Aug 11 14:13:35 clicking on the bookmark qualifies as mounting :P Aug 11 14:13:45 if I place the N900 sftp:// bookmark into menu-bar it's only 2 mouseclicks Aug 11 14:13:51 does kde actually do mounts or is it all virtual KIO stuff? Aug 11 14:13:58 latter Aug 11 14:14:10 kinda neat, but it only works with kde stuff :c Aug 11 14:14:17 right Aug 11 14:14:56 though I guess you can do similar tricks even on windoze with PuTTY Aug 11 14:15:12 or whatever you use for sftp there Aug 11 14:15:21 windows has filezilla Aug 11 14:15:40 filezilla depends on putty psftp though Aug 11 14:15:42 oh, if we're accepting external programs then i also have bookmarks on cyberduck for sftp stuff Aug 11 14:16:21 whatever, sftp FTW Aug 11 14:16:27 the point of konqueror is that that *is* the default file browser Aug 11 14:16:43 actually it isn't anymore Aug 11 14:16:48 :o Aug 11 14:16:52 the new crap caled dolphin Aug 11 14:16:59 meh, it's the same thing Aug 11 14:17:05 it's bullshit Aug 11 14:17:11 KIO vs GVFS, fight! Aug 11 14:17:15 anyway, the only problem is that it's awful, because it's not ROX-Filer Aug 11 14:17:43 http://rox.sourceforge.net/desktop/ROX-Filer look at how good it looks Aug 11 14:17:48 so '90s Aug 11 14:18:30 very so Aug 11 14:18:56 dolphin seen huge effort to "simplify" away all the good stuff of konqueror Aug 11 14:19:04 gnome2 was 90s too, including opening a window for every click on folders Aug 11 14:19:08 like all KDE4 shit Aug 11 14:19:16 gnome2 was good Aug 11 14:19:23 apper my ASS Aug 11 14:19:38 DocScrutinizer05: is that an invitation? Aug 11 14:20:08 yes, for apper and its devels Aug 11 14:20:45 is that a generic frontend to package management? Aug 11 14:21:03 jesus Aug 11 14:21:06 that can't go well Aug 11 14:21:25 actually HAM is a complex loquacious monster compared to apper Aug 11 14:22:16 for apper I'm reqularly surprised it has a GUI at all Aug 11 14:22:30 beyonf that systray icon Aug 11 14:25:51 let's put it this way: apper is like HAM's/HD's "[!]" in status area, plus the notifier that pops up when you click on the [!] Aug 11 14:29:07 I think I need another week of curing my maemo adiction, and probably should shut down IRC again Aug 11 14:43:14 DocScrutinizer05: noooooooooo :c Aug 11 14:43:17 we missed you Aug 11 15:22:47 wow. i sold my broken n900 for $200 heh Aug 11 15:25:30 What was broken? Aug 11 15:26:41 modem Aug 11 15:26:50 ic Aug 11 15:27:04 did the paper in the battery compartment for a month Aug 11 15:27:10 but then that stopped working Aug 11 15:27:41 i reflashed my functional one after the touch upgrade made it so i couldnt write to the storage lol Aug 11 15:28:26 need to install power kernel and mobilehotspot Aug 11 15:29:34 i am actually concerned about installing cssu nowadays lol Aug 11 15:29:50 the repos are an absolute disaster Aug 11 15:29:56 "after the touch upgrade made it so i couldnt write to the storage" Aug 11 15:29:56 dafuq Aug 11 15:30:19 you mean "after i installed cssu-thumb and at the same time something borked MyDocs' vfat" Aug 11 15:30:28 yup Aug 11 15:30:35 same thing i guess? heh Aug 11 15:30:48 er, sorry Aug 11 15:30:52 you mean "after i installed cssu-thumb and at the same time something unrelated borked MyDocs' vfat" Aug 11 15:31:14 wth Aug 11 15:31:15 no flavour of cssu actually so much as *looks* at MyDocs Aug 11 15:32:04 the closest thing is pali's new system-services, which does a fsck -p on /home at boot time if you tell it to Aug 11 15:33:21 or maybe there is such a bug Aug 11 15:33:33 and it would be an incredibly awful bug, so please report it if you encounter it again Aug 11 15:33:37 look at the amount of testing there is on cssu-thumb Aug 11 15:33:45 can't really say it cant be cssu Aug 11 15:33:53 same way you cant really say it is Aug 11 15:33:57 ~bug Aug 11 15:34:05 DocScrutinizer05: infobot Aug 11 15:34:44 Lava_Croft: this is a problem with MyDocs Aug 11 15:35:24 apart for the usual problems with filesystems, and filesystems on flash, there's nothing that cssu could've done Aug 11 15:35:44 e2fsprogs were updated, but that's just for extfs, not vfat Aug 11 15:38:11 hm Aug 11 15:38:17 why did i just reflash Aug 11 15:38:26 and have no space to install apps? Aug 11 15:38:41 what did you flash? Aug 11 15:38:50 meh Aug 11 15:39:05 it says 30MB free Aug 11 15:39:11 DocScrutinizer05: you could install a znc extension that reboots infobot whenever someone says "infobot" to you Aug 11 15:39:20 Macer: `df -h /home` please Aug 11 15:39:30 I could do that Aug 11 15:39:40 i installed 002 Aug 11 15:39:42 or you could fix infobot! Aug 11 15:39:49 I can't do THAT Aug 11 15:40:17 Macer: y u no global (y°#°)y Aug 11 15:40:20 ootfs 227.9M 207.3M 16.4M 93% / Aug 11 15:40:21 I don't even have access to the server ibot runs on Aug 11 15:40:43 mmh, that's a bit low but maybe not too much Aug 11 15:40:48 what about optfs? Aug 11 15:41:27 which is a PITA, since right now the bot is ok, but freenode for some weird reason once again kicked the infobot personality, while apt and purl are fine Aug 11 15:41:34 i dont know what is using it lol Aug 11 15:41:43 i didnt flash optfs Aug 11 15:41:44 meh, reboot it is then Aug 11 15:41:56 just the combined Aug 11 15:42:13 Macer: considering the status of your MyDocs, i reckon that your emmc is kinda borked Aug 11 15:42:33 but you still haven't given us the output of df -h /home Aug 11 15:42:44 i did Aug 11 15:42:48 ...wat Aug 11 15:42:53 `mount | grep home` Aug 11 15:42:54 * Macer points up Aug 11 15:43:27 /dev/mmcblk0p1 on /home/user/MyDocs type vfat (rw,noauto,nodev,noexec,nosuid,noatime,nodiratime,utf8,uid=29999,shortname=mixed,dmask=000,fmask=0133,rodir) Aug 11 15:43:40 and that's it? Aug 11 15:43:41 holy fuck Aug 11 15:43:45 your emmc is borked Aug 11 15:43:57 lmao. awesome. Aug 11 15:44:03 flash vanilla+combined Aug 11 15:44:14 it's the easiest way to make it better Aug 11 15:44:40 DocScrutinizer: infobot joined! Aug 11 15:44:48 ~botsnack Aug 11 15:44:49 kerio: aw, gee Aug 11 15:44:50 would love to but Aug 11 15:45:06 i dont get my internet installed into my new place until tomorrow Aug 11 15:45:08 lol Aug 11 15:45:22 and im not going to dl vanilla tethered heh Aug 11 15:45:30 /dev/mmcblk0p2 is mounted on /home on the n900 Aug 11 15:45:49 i see Aug 11 15:45:50 if it's missing, then something went seriously wrong Aug 11 15:46:12 ah well. i will fix it tomorrow when i have my cm installed Aug 11 15:46:58 in the meantime i will just go back to my e7 Aug 11 15:47:09 there's almost no way to fix a failed-to-mount /home Aug 11 15:47:20 except full reflash Aug 11 15:47:36 DocScrutinizer05: yeah. i will do that tomorrow Aug 11 15:47:37 fix partitions, restore backup Aug 11 15:47:45 i dont have anything important on it Aug 11 15:47:56 it is a fresh flash Aug 11 15:48:55 kerio: no need to restore a backup. ive only done like 2 things Aug 11 15:49:04 it's faster than flashing! Aug 11 15:49:06 reflashed. installed openssh Aug 11 15:49:45 kerio: well. i plan on selling this thing. best to make sure it functions stock Aug 11 15:49:55 so i will just completely reflash Aug 11 15:50:31 also, TWOHUNDRED US-DOLLAR for a broken N900? W*T*F? Aug 11 15:50:46 or NTD? Aug 11 15:51:41 yeah. i couldnt believe it either Aug 11 15:51:41 lol Aug 11 15:52:01 oh well. i said it had a broken modem Aug 11 15:56:02 ~flashing Aug 11 15:56:03 extra, extra, read all about it, maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware Aug 11 15:56:43 ok. so i just need 20.2010.36-2.002 PR Combined Aug 11 15:56:45 and emmc? Aug 11 15:57:56 blah. i'm trying to find the images Aug 11 15:58:44 ~pr131 Aug 11 15:58:45 [combined] the rootfs fiasco image of maemo. For N900 latest (PR1.3.1) see http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/fiasco+co/RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin or http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2011/9/--FID--A0A22MVWFVFAM/--LID--FiRe1317015685654/RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin Aug 11 15:59:05 ~vanilla Aug 11 15:59:06 from memory, vanilla is just plain old up & down & up & down & up & down & up & down & ooooh!, or the finest of the flavors Aug 11 15:59:11 what the balls Aug 11 16:00:40 Internal Server Error - Read Aug 11 16:00:40 The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request. Aug 11 16:00:43 Reference #3.ed14434d.1376236828.acfa1d6 Aug 11 16:00:44 lol Aug 11 16:02:33 so i have to use the img from 2009? Aug 11 16:03:58 the one listed as "latest" on tablets-dev Aug 11 16:04:34 RX-51_2009SE_1.2009.41-1.VANILLA_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin Aug 11 16:04:35 oops Aug 11 16:05:37 RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.VANILLA_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin Aug 11 16:05:42 there it is heh Aug 11 16:05:51 Latest Vanilla version of the eMMC content for Nokia N900 Aug 11 16:07:52 so is there a way to flash these both at the same time? heh Aug 11 16:07:56 * Macer looks at the wiki Aug 11 16:16:53 omg Aug 11 16:16:54 this is nearly impossible to do without a REAL inernet connection. i will fix it tomorrow Aug 11 16:17:17 heh Aug 11 16:17:24 let me try one m ore time to get this emmc bin Aug 11 16:17:51 1 hour for 256MB Aug 11 16:17:53 fml Aug 11 16:37:45 Macer: I flashed my phone after first downloading the images. The flashing was done without internet connection Aug 11 16:39:54 Macer: it's actually pretty silly Aug 11 16:40:01 most of those 256mb are crappy videos Aug 11 16:55:00 indeed Aug 11 16:55:45 * DocScrutinizer05 idly wonders about S/N ratio of posts like [2013-08-11 18:00:40] Internal Server Error - Read Aug 11 16:55:53 dont forget the music and wallpapers Aug 11 16:55:57 all very useful Aug 11 16:57:40 it honestly drives me mad when users "report" errors but do it in a way that's absolutely useless except for ringing my alarm bells Aug 11 16:58:32 i wonder how life is without any means of filtering out crap that will just agitate you Aug 11 16:59:05 i mean, i have trouble ignoring impulses regardless of their nature Aug 11 16:59:10 instead of checking 39 URLs if they show the cited error, I should rather break 39 baseball bats on the user citing such shit Aug 11 16:59:44 and suggesting physical violence over a thing like this just shows more about how fucked up your thought process is than that of the silly user Aug 11 16:59:48 my goodness man Aug 11 16:59:55 chill the fuck out Aug 11 17:00:15 FU! Aug 11 17:00:19 silly user might be silly and annoying, but what you say is just downright bad Aug 11 17:00:23 and you know better:) Aug 11 17:00:29 just ignore the crap that makes you say shit like this Aug 11 17:00:46 most of the vitriol here is in same way always related to you Aug 11 17:00:53 some* Aug 11 17:01:04 r e l a x Aug 11 17:02:23 ok Aug 11 17:02:41 looks like this finished heh Aug 11 17:03:19 be easy for DocScrutinizer51, is a good entity Aug 11 17:03:20 so just flash the emmc then yank the battery and flash the fiasco img? Aug 11 17:03:22 heh Aug 11 17:03:39 Macer: look at wiki? Aug 11 17:03:46 i am Aug 11 17:03:52 seems like most people flash emmc Aug 11 17:03:58 then pull the battery Aug 11 17:04:01 then flash fiasco Aug 11 17:04:02 do what wiki says and you are ok Aug 11 17:04:15 yes, because that is a failsafe solution Aug 11 17:04:21 reasonably:) Aug 11 17:05:57 well.. i'm doing it now Aug 11 17:06:06 so hopefully all goes well and this ridiculous /home dir problem goes away heh Aug 11 17:06:07 its how i've done it for the past years Aug 11 17:06:22 use backupmenu the next time Aug 11 17:07:20 heh Aug 11 17:07:29 well.. lets see what happens Aug 11 17:07:33 that actually went rather fast Aug 11 17:07:57 i'm doing the fiasco img now Aug 11 17:08:03 so hopefully this thing just boots Aug 11 17:08:45 just use your head the look around next time Aug 11 17:08:49 i mean, it wasnt hard to find Aug 11 17:09:00 good luck Aug 11 17:09:03 huh? Aug 11 17:09:31 booting it now Aug 11 17:10:12 * Macer stares around Aug 11 17:10:49 does this thing usually stay stuck at those booting dots for this long after doing this? Aug 11 17:10:58 the first time it will take a while Aug 11 17:11:13 yeah it just asked for my code.. which is odd Aug 11 17:11:44 considering it should be completely wiped. am i missing something here? lol Aug 11 17:11:59 google? the devices i own never had that problem:) Aug 11 17:12:27 ah there it goes Aug 11 17:12:32 the partitions look good :) Aug 11 17:12:43 i have 2GB for applications now instead of 256MB heh Aug 11 17:12:50 it's always better to look around and wait first, then start asking questions here:) Aug 11 17:12:53 let me toss the sim in and get this thing working heh Aug 11 17:12:59 that way your chances of wasting someone's time a lot smaller! Aug 11 17:13:19 look for backupmenu soon Aug 11 17:13:22 and learn how to use it Aug 11 17:13:33 but my problem was an error in the partitions Aug 11 17:13:39 its the most important thing to know with these funky devices Aug 11 17:13:45 hm Aug 11 17:13:46 so unarring something doesn't sound like it would fix partitions Aug 11 17:13:49 true Aug 11 17:13:53 untaring Aug 11 17:14:04 plus my experience with backupmenu hasn't been good Aug 11 17:14:13 tried to recover a couple of times using it and seemed to fail both times Aug 11 17:14:14 heh Aug 11 17:14:20 ah well.. let me work on making this thing functional Aug 11 17:14:25 have fun Aug 11 17:29:47 hi Aug 11 17:30:54 'lo Aug 11 17:48:35 seems to work Aug 11 17:48:38 nice Aug 11 17:55:58 whaat?!? tracker-cfg is in extras-devel? Aug 11 17:56:04 sixwheeledbeast: ^^^ O.o Aug 11 17:56:45 sixwheeledbeast: going to promote that to -testing if you don't mind Aug 11 17:57:07 how fast is the micro-sd slot? I want put the SAMSUNG MB-MPBGC SD-card in my N900, but can it read 48MB/s and faster? Aug 11 17:57:33 no Aug 11 17:57:49 20-20MB/s max Aug 11 17:57:53 20-25 even Aug 11 17:59:00 NeutrinoPower: n900 does not support UHS bus/protocol/speeds Aug 11 18:20:27 Pali: hi, what about that email? Aug 11 18:21:43 freemangordon: last email, why is barrier needed? Aug 11 18:22:09 Pali: yes, I saw it, but honestly, this is going instane Aug 11 18:22:13 *insane Aug 11 18:23:03 I really don;t get it what exactly this guy wants. It was explained by the guy from TI why is DSB needed there Aug 11 18:23:23 I can't think of anything but cpoy/paste of his explanation Aug 11 18:23:52 ok, do it :-) Aug 11 18:23:59 Pali: maybe ask if Dave will be happy with that Aug 11 18:24:13 Pali: you want me to do that? Aug 11 18:24:51 you answered other questions, so it will be better to do it Aug 11 18:24:55 ok Aug 11 18:36:16 Pali: Does it look fine to you? Aug 11 18:36:24 ok Aug 11 18:36:26 ok Aug 11 18:38:20 Pali: what about assessment? (kcssu) Aug 11 18:38:38 now going to compile new version of clock-ui Aug 11 18:38:45 and then will look at kcssu Aug 11 18:38:50 ok :) Aug 11 18:44:17 ok, new clock-ui is in cssu-devel Aug 11 18:44:29 now going to look at kcssu wiki page :-) Aug 11 18:50:37 freemangodon: there is patch ARM_6066_1_Fix_BUG_scheduling_while_atomic_swapper_0_0x00000002.diff Aug 11 18:51:03 Luke-Jr: ping Aug 11 18:57:04 freemangordon: what to do witah patch trig-keyb.diff ? Aug 11 18:57:14 "This allows LEDs to be used as keyboard indication leds" Aug 11 18:57:34 Pali: lemme see that patch Aug 11 18:57:47 looking at source and I'm not sure if this code is OK Aug 11 18:58:15 it exporting symbol from kernel (for other drivers) Aug 11 18:58:55 plus it is compiled into kernel zImage Aug 11 18:59:19 and I'm not sure if this (from description) is needed in kcssu... Aug 11 18:59:30 Pali: :nod: Aug 11 19:00:17 so its up to you if you accept this patch into kcssu or not... I'm not sure Aug 11 19:00:23 lets disable it, along with any patches that might use that function keyb_led_set Aug 11 19:00:56 (if there are any) Aug 11 19:00:59 Pali: ^^^ Aug 11 19:01:40 twl-scrollock.diff is using it Aug 11 19:03:15 hmm, seems that allows you to use KBD leds as CAPS/NUM/SCROLL leds Aug 11 19:03:34 never knew that is possible or how to use it Aug 11 19:03:41 me too Aug 11 19:03:54 it looks like it using kernel led trigger api Aug 11 19:04:01 disable thos, we can easily reenable them if needed Aug 11 19:04:07 and this needs to be configured somehow via sysfs Aug 11 19:04:12 ok Aug 11 19:04:21 next what to do with usb host mode? Aug 11 19:04:48 no idea, better ask DocScrutinizer05 Aug 11 19:05:07 DocScrutinizer05: ping Aug 11 19:05:15 Pali: I am going afk for a while Aug 11 19:05:31 freemangordon: and last patch is ARM_6066_1_Fix_BUG_scheduling_while_atomic_swapper_0_0x00000002.diff Aug 11 19:05:33 ok Aug 11 19:06:02 DocScrutinizer05: question is if usb host mode patches are stable for kcssu or not Aug 11 19:16:16 freemangordon: table updated Aug 11 20:50:44 uhm Aug 11 20:50:52 is the api broken in the pic sharing in maemo now? Aug 11 20:50:56 or fb's? Aug 11 20:51:02 i can't seem to login/validate my fb acct Aug 11 20:51:51 keep getting no network connection available Aug 11 20:51:53 Macer: i successfuly set up sharing account (on my GF's new device) on Tuesday. Aug 11 20:51:58 hm Aug 11 20:52:00 wth? Aug 11 20:52:18 i am getting "no network connection available. operation cancelled" Aug 11 20:52:21 Macer: cssu-t there? Aug 11 20:52:45 no Aug 11 20:52:50 running the latest nokia stock Aug 11 20:52:53 maybe i'll install cssu Aug 11 20:53:00 ~cssu Aug 11 20:53:01 extra, extra, read all about it, cssu is http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU Aug 11 20:53:29 Macer: ooh, fixed in CSSU, your libxml2 is broken ;) Aug 11 20:53:54 oh Aug 11 20:53:56 ok Aug 11 20:55:34 do i have to use testing? Aug 11 20:55:43 is stable ok to use? heh Aug 11 20:55:51 I think no, look at the -stable changelog Aug 11 20:56:22 Macer: in other words - I think -stable should have the libxml2 fix Aug 11 20:56:41 nut not sure, so check in the changelog Aug 11 20:57:28 Macer: oh, it is libcurl3, not libxml Aug 11 20:57:47 Macer: fixed in 21.2011.38-1Smaemo5 (24.12.2012) Aug 11 20:58:43 so stable should be good? Aug 11 20:58:44 heh Aug 11 20:58:47 yep Aug 11 20:58:53 i don't want to use testing Aug 11 21:05:17 ok Aug 11 21:05:29 i'm installing this cssu stable update Aug 11 21:05:50 just have to wait on it to finish downloading/installing. hopefully the stable edition doesn't have as many problems as i had with testing heh Aug 11 21:28:18 well. cssu stable doesnt have the screen rotation Aug 11 21:28:23 heh oh well Aug 11 21:28:41 well, it is disabled by default :) Aug 11 21:28:55 holy shit new clock-ui Aug 11 21:31:51 hm Aug 11 21:32:12 freemangordon: i dont see the rotation applet in stable Aug 11 21:32:29 Macer: rotation applet? Aug 11 21:32:53 ooh, rotation lock applet :) Aug 11 21:33:10 it is not in -testing anymore too Aug 11 21:33:20 oh. really? Aug 11 21:33:30 yep Aug 11 21:33:39 do i have to install the cssu config sep too? Aug 11 21:33:42 you can install it from HAM if you wish Aug 11 21:33:57 Macer: NFC what cssu config is Aug 11 21:34:00 i dont see the cssu config app Aug 11 21:34:09 Macer: http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/FeaturesStable Aug 11 21:34:22 Macer: WTF is cssu config app? Aug 11 21:34:32 features configuration Aug 11 21:34:36 heh Aug 11 21:34:55 i found it Aug 11 21:34:56 Macer: this is not a part of CSSU Aug 11 21:35:09 and I am not sure it is compatible with cssu either Aug 11 21:35:09 oh Aug 11 21:35:27 really? Aug 11 21:35:33 hm.. ive used it before heh Aug 11 21:35:37 oh Aug 11 21:35:42 it's basically a transitions.ini editor Aug 11 21:35:49 with some extra gconf macros Aug 11 21:35:50 yah Aug 11 21:35:53 but it's kinda bad Aug 11 21:35:55 that might explain the bad experience you have Aug 11 21:36:45 kerio: ooh, this was the app that was causing hildon-desktop to crash because of the bad transitions.ini it outputs? Aug 11 21:36:51 i think so Aug 11 21:36:54 I see Aug 11 21:37:02 Macer: don't install that Aug 11 21:37:12 ok Aug 11 21:37:21 mmh, i have clock-ui 0.6-5+thumb0 Aug 11 21:37:23 wtf is that Aug 11 21:37:42 thumby clock-ui? Aug 11 21:37:46 probably Aug 11 21:37:47 should remove it from the repo then heh Aug 11 21:37:56 but i thought clock-ui didn't have debs Aug 11 21:37:57 Macer: maybe Aug 11 21:38:00 oh well Aug 11 21:38:07 Macer: rase a bug Aug 11 21:38:14 *raise Aug 11 21:38:20 hmm, "file a bug"? Aug 11 21:38:25 yeah, better Aug 11 21:38:38 wow. i dont know if i even have a bugzilla acct nowadays Aug 11 21:38:43 :) Aug 11 21:39:13 it will probably be nofix anyways. i remember filing bugs as being pointless in the nokia days heh Aug 11 21:40:31 if i want to connect an android device to n900 i have to modify the android device? there is no way to "fix" it from the 900 side right? Aug 11 21:40:40 "connect" how? Aug 11 21:40:49 qtmh Aug 11 21:40:53 qtmhs Aug 11 21:41:09 wat Aug 11 21:41:21 mobile hotspot Aug 11 21:41:26 ah, k Aug 11 21:41:37 yeah, android doesn't do ad-hoc wifi by default i think Aug 11 21:41:46 you can still use bluetooth dun, if it's supported Aug 11 21:41:46 android doesnt support adhoc or bluetooth dun Aug 11 21:41:47 idk Aug 11 21:42:07 android only supports wifi ap and bluetooth pan Aug 11 21:42:19 i went through this a while back Aug 11 21:42:40 only way i managed to get anything working was to install a dun app on the tablet Aug 11 21:42:46 bluevpn client Aug 11 21:42:56 and install bt dun in maemo Aug 11 21:43:18 it is a bad way to do it but getting bt pan to work in maemo was like pulling out teeth Aug 11 21:43:37 sadly qt mobilehotspot does not support bt Aug 11 21:44:10 not with qt mobilehotspot Aug 11 21:44:12 nope Aug 11 21:44:18 Macer: bt pan worksforme Aug 11 21:44:32 kerio: make a wiki for it lol Aug 11 21:44:41 or an app that simplifies it :) Aug 11 23:24:23 supposedly vanilla android is a bit better at bt dun support Aug 11 23:24:49 and chinese androids usually include the kitchen sink and will even work if you connect a 3g modem over usb to them Aug 11 23:51:23 ~seen robbiethe1st Aug 11 23:51:24 robbiethe1st <~robbiethe@50-52-47-134.cral.id.frontiernet.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 3d 21h 58m 5s ago, saying: 'heh'. Aug 12 00:54:24 hmm is there a way to move bookmark order in browser..? Aug 12 00:55:03 microb that is Aug 12 02:31:16 hi all Aug 12 02:31:26 I want to use ext3 or ext2 in microsd , so it will not have 4Gb limit Aug 12 02:31:44 what is recommanded to use? Aug 12 02:51:38 * ShadowJK sighs Aug 12 02:51:45 tracker has duplicated everything Aug 12 02:52:05 DrCode; ext3 is better than ext2 Aug 12 02:52:10 in terms of speed Aug 12 02:55:20 dose it mount it automticly Aug 12 02:55:41 or I will have to make changes in fstab? Aug 12 02:56:19 I can format all my microsd to ext3 or better to make patition for fat32 also? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Aug 12 02:59:58 2013