**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Aug 24 02:59:58 2013 Aug 24 03:25:05 what is pymucl?? Aug 24 03:27:26 and is there a way to do gmail group chats on phone?? Aug 24 06:55:44 discopig, ty. I expect I should simply copy whole lot to /lib/modules/`uname -v`/ ? Should I overwrite anything? Aug 24 07:29:28 WizardNumberNext, you can keep it in /opt Aug 24 07:29:35 theres a script in it to load the modues Aug 24 07:29:39 i think load.sh or something like that Aug 24 07:29:44 i never bothered moving it Aug 24 08:25:20 there are only modules in there Aug 24 08:25:37 previously I didn't have to do anything Aug 24 08:38:52 jon_y: 3.1" isnt so small with full hw kb attached... Aug 24 09:10:00 what is in cssu-devel repo? Is it simply cssu-devel -> cssu-testing -> cssu-stable scheme? Aug 24 09:10:15 ~cssu-devel Aug 24 09:10:16 it has been said that cssu-devel is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=84292 Aug 24 09:10:25 ty Aug 24 09:12:09 I am on CSSU-thumb now. Quite happy with it. Aug 24 09:19:41 Once I asked how to connect wlan and edge together in n900. and someone said i have to bridge connections or write my own code or something.. Aug 24 09:20:56 today I found my E71 connects through both by default. ie plays internet radio through EDGE and plays you tube videos through wlan, with default apps. Aug 24 09:21:56 although not together in the same app, but I guess some apps like transmission could do that, atleat if you have multiple downloads. Aug 24 09:22:27 ~cssu-devel is also extremely deprecated for any non-developer Aug 24 09:22:27 DocScrutinizer05: okay Aug 24 09:43:59 RST38h: now uncle fester is gone, like you asked for ;-D Aug 24 09:55:53 Doc: But I want more, more Aug 24 09:56:04 Doc: Will they make Elop a new MS CEO? Aug 24 09:56:17 Doc: He has got so much experience in the mobile platform field! Aug 24 10:04:13 Well, it seems like this the end of the line for my N900. I suddenly lost access to my contacts, messages etc. and everything in /home/user went of the map. Sometimes ls would say "Stale NFS mount" for every single file that used to be in there, sometimes everything would just be gone. It still boots, but it can't load the desktop background and everything is hit and miss. Aug 24 10:07:57 Reflash? Aug 24 10:08:44 Will attempt. Still trying to salvage some of the data Aug 24 10:09:08 Although it's weird. Right now I can actually find many of the files in MyDocs but some are simply missing (e.g. photos) Aug 24 10:29:21 Shapeshifter: full reflash Aug 24 10:29:53 Shapeshifter: sounds like quite usual fs corruption Aug 24 10:30:21 Shapeshifter: you're not - by any chance - on CSSU-T8(.0)? Aug 24 10:31:00 DocScrutinizer05: How can I determine this? Aug 24 10:32:53 Shapeshifter: reflash works with stale nfs mounts usuallhy Aug 24 10:39:44 Shapeshifter: Settings > About Community SSU > Version: Aug 24 10:47:03 sixwheeledbeast: thanks Aug 24 10:47:22 DocScrutinizer05: Tmaemo8.2 Aug 24 11:31:38 mmm...T8.x Aug 24 11:57:15 indeed hmmmm. Sorry to say that but I comletely lost confidence in CSSU(-T, for now) since that fstab/fsck hack that intended to improve stuff but in the end pretty much messed up fsck Aug 24 12:16:01 DocScrutinizer05, Hi! Aug 24 12:16:13 Any progress with the cloaks? Aug 24 12:34:33 referring to this: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-meeting-irclog/%23maemo-meeting.2013-06-29.log.html#t2013-06-29T19:26:00 Aug 24 12:46:21 sorry I been "lazy", didn't manage to pester the missing (mail) persons (chemist?) about their preferences Aug 24 12:47:11 np, just skip the missing persons then ok? Aug 24 12:47:45 ok, will do Aug 24 12:50:24 great, many thanks. And probably have new GroupContacts so we don't need to rely on X-Fade, like you suggested Aug 24 12:55:58 DocScrutinizer05: disabled by default, iirc Aug 24 12:56:41 kerio: hmm? Aug 24 12:56:46 the fsck on boot thing Aug 24 13:10:58 This time after messing up the OS i was unable to flash. Aug 24 13:12:37 tried with win 7 64 and libusb, another win xp machine , and I even installed virtual machine and XP in my pc. Aug 24 13:12:43 but nothing seems to work. I couldnt even copy the files to virtual machine, it just says copying and takes hours... Aug 24 13:13:39 So after a week I am here logged in from a UBUNTU 10.04 disc, i had lying around. and I am not totally sure what to do.. Aug 24 13:13:51 So can anyone help me out.. Aug 24 13:14:38 I just installed the debian based flasher but I cannot locate it.. Aug 24 13:16:03 new to desktop linux. Aug 24 13:22:44 well.. figured it out. Aug 24 13:23:26 after this 'Suitable USB device not found, waiting.' the usb symbol on fone screen goes away and fone just reboots again and again.. Aug 24 13:29:19 ~flashing Aug 24 13:29:20 hmm... maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware Aug 24 13:29:35 have you read above? Aug 24 13:29:47 SAiF: sounds like your battery is too empty Aug 24 13:30:07 and you probably didn't blacklist cdc_phonet Aug 24 13:30:27 lsmod | grep phon Aug 24 13:32:04 battery could not be empty, I was charging it with external battery charger for flashing. Aug 24 13:32:29 and I didnt get the second thing you said. the blacklist one.. Aug 24 13:34:09 ubuntu@ubuntu:~/Desktop$ lsmod | grep phon cdc_phonet 3901 0 phonet 16933 1 cdc_phonet Aug 24 13:34:09 how do i blacklist that cdc_phonet and what is that? Aug 24 13:54:48 ?nick SAiF Aug 24 13:58:59 ~ping Aug 24 13:58:59 ~pong Aug 24 14:03:53 SaIFu: see updated http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware Aug 24 14:04:34 dang Aug 24 14:13:13 Preparing/formatting only certain sections of a MediaWiki article for paged media so they can be printed to paper seems to be a PITA. :/ Aug 24 14:14:01 indeed it is Aug 24 14:14:51 Well booted back into windows. that old ubuntu and firefox was giving me troubles. with internet connection. and Aug 24 14:15:28 looking through the logs,, some of what I have said is skipped. Aug 24 14:15:49 Well I black listed as you said.. Aug 24 14:16:23 then tried but seen no difference. Aug 24 14:17:16 SaIFu: see updated http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware Aug 24 14:17:25 then I tried flashing the combined first and it worked Aug 24 14:17:42 and then emmc and then combined again.. Aug 24 14:17:55 is there any thing wrong in what I did. Aug 24 14:18:07 no, exactly right Aug 24 14:18:18 N900 just booted up and is running fine for now. Aug 24 14:18:27 err wait Aug 24 14:18:56 the correct sequence is combined, then emmc, then combined again Aug 24 14:19:44 question is why did I had to flash combined first, I never flashed combined first before. Just the emmc and then combined. and that used to work Aug 24 14:19:52 you always need to flash combined too when you flashed emmc (there's a trick to get away with flashing combined first, and then emmc, but that's not simple) Aug 24 14:21:02 you can flash emmc only with a semi-working rootfs. If your rootfs is too messed up, you need to flash it first (combined), before you can flash emmc. And after emmc you always should flash combined Aug 24 14:21:20 thus: combined, emmc, combined Aug 24 14:21:53 okay now I got. I never got n900 this much messed up before. to a nonbooting situation Aug 24 14:22:12 *got it Aug 24 14:22:23 see "the complete foolproof flashing procedure" in http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware Aug 24 14:22:51 all down at bottom of that page Aug 24 14:23:07 I always use that.. actually I couldnt find another guide :) Aug 24 14:23:22 If you cannot establish a connection with N900, or got any other problems during star... Aug 24 14:24:12 DocScrutinizer05: I want the “ASCII printable characters” section of http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=ASCII&oldid=569716319 on at most 2 Letter-sized pages so I can print it to paper and put it on my wall. I have copied the section from Mozilla Firefox to LibreOffice Writer 4.0.3.3 but cannot get the 3 columns of tables to actually be in 3 columns instead of in only 2 columns. Aug 24 14:24:31 >>...do the following steps which describe the complete foolproof flashing procedure again in terse form:<< Aug 24 14:25:42 Now can I follow this http://wiki.maemo.org/N900_The_Perfect_Setup Aug 24 14:26:27 SAiF: it's not exactly the official definition/instruction Aug 24 14:26:48 is there any? Aug 24 14:27:57 brolin_empey: I'd try to highlight one 5-col column after the other and then insert them into a table with the columns you defined in writer Aug 24 14:28:15 s/with the/with three/ Aug 24 14:28:15 DocScrutinizer05 meant: brolin_empey: I'd try to highlight one 5-col column after the other and then insert them into a table with three columns you defined in writer Aug 24 14:28:59 SAiF: not really. The one you referred to is not exactly bad, but take it with a grain of salt Aug 24 14:29:44 for example I don't think removing relentlessly all apps somebody considered useless is a smart thing to do Aug 24 14:30:20 same wy you shouldn't blindly follow every "suggestion" on: Aug 24 14:30:23 ~jrtools Aug 24 14:30:24 well, jrtools is http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools Aug 24 14:30:33 same way* Aug 24 14:31:00 DocScrutinizer05: I tried that but Writer incorrectly assumes I want to paste the copied table into multiple columns of the table in Writer instead of pasting into only 1 column of the table in Writer. :/ Aug 24 14:31:25 aaah I see Aug 24 14:31:35 so create a table with 15 cols Aug 24 14:31:56 or rather, 3 tables with 5 cols Aug 24 14:32:08 DocScrutinizer05: Does Writer even support nested tables? Aug 24 14:32:50 or see if `man ascii` maybe more meets your needs Aug 24 14:33:22 brolin_empey: I guess it at least allows multiple side-by-side tables on one page Aug 24 14:34:10 but you for sure can as well try to paste into cols1-5, then 6-10, then 11-15, of a 15col table Aug 24 14:34:37 or even make that 17 col, to have a nice margin between the 3 sections Aug 24 14:35:42 or even use calc instead writer, then export to a writer document or print directly from calc Aug 24 14:36:28 I always have difficulty choosing the right version of KP, cssu and some other software.. or may be its because I cannot make sure I installed correct versions.. I may sound stupid. Aug 24 14:36:34 Anyway thanks Doc Aug 24 14:38:01 SAiF: there is no "right" version. only what is best for YOU. As explianed on the cssu page. Aug 24 14:38:05 ~cssu Aug 24 14:38:06 rumour has it, cssu is http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU Aug 24 14:38:29 brolin_empey: http://unixhelp.ed.ac.uk/CGI/man-cgi?ascii+7 http://www.manpagez.com/man/7/ascii/ Aug 24 14:38:30 :) Aug 24 14:39:13 SAiF: go for CSSU-S Aug 24 14:39:53 for KP pick latest, which is 52 iirc ans should be available via extras-devel now Aug 24 14:41:03 win 41 Aug 24 14:41:49 Okay Doc. it seems stable suits me more. last time had issues with the portrait mode calling menu, after cssu-T Aug 24 14:47:31 SAiF: stable with latest kp52 is my day-to-day device setup. as per wiki page you mentioned. Aug 24 14:50:14 what about Additional Unnecessary Software, will you remove it? Aug 24 14:51:48 er? Aug 24 14:52:08 Remove from device? Aug 24 14:52:14 yes Aug 24 14:52:52 ~listkeys beast Aug 24 14:52:53 Factoid search of 'beast' by key (5): libbeastiality #DEL# ;; libbeastiality ;; beasttweaks ;; beastieb #DEL# ;; ~beasttweaks #DEL#. Aug 24 14:52:55 Ive got a feeling that it removes some of the needed libraries.. I may sound stupid again Aug 24 14:53:03 ~beasttweaks Aug 24 14:53:03 extra, extra, read all about it, beasttweaks is http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Sixwheeledbeast/Scripts Aug 24 14:53:32 I have my version of software removal :) Aug 24 14:54:09 wow cool... Aug 24 14:54:10 it removes some languages that you might need if you are not english Aug 24 14:54:28 my language in not in the list anyway.. haha Aug 24 14:56:00 I also keep the orange theme in my version Aug 24 15:41:23 DocScrutinizer05: Your suggestions sound good in theory but they do not function as expected in practice. Never underestimate the seemingly endless frustration involved in trying to copy a table from a MediaWiki article in a GUI Web browser to a text document in LibreOffice Writer. :/ Aug 24 15:44:33 Why is copying a table from a document viewer to a document editor so bloody difficult? :/ Aug 24 15:57:58 it appears beasttweaks is now featured in jrtools :) Aug 24 16:10:44 DocScrutinizer05: what does it mean, CSSU-T? testing? Aug 24 16:10:57 yep Aug 24 16:11:48 I don't know, I've pretty much given up on small mobile devices altogether Aug 24 16:30:24 Shapeshifter: ...what are you doing here then? Aug 24 16:30:30 we're all about a certain small mobile device Aug 24 16:30:43 don't get me wrong, you can stay Aug 24 16:30:48 but it seems weird Aug 24 16:44:12 !saves Aug 24 16:44:18 whoops, wrong window Aug 24 17:40:48 ~ping Aug 24 17:40:48 ~pong Aug 24 17:42:51 Link to flash player 10 binaries in wiki is broken. http://wiki.maemo.org/N900_The_Perfect_Setup Aug 24 17:51:21 hello. Strange problem. I want to install backupmenu. HAM is complaining about missing liblz02 and apt-get doesn't find it. I have backupmenu freshly iunstalled on my 1st n900 - something like on 18 august. Now I cannot install it becaus of missing liblzo2. How to fiz that problem or where to find liblzo2 - I can install it with dpkg Aug 24 18:25:56 WizardNumberNext: http://maemo.org/packages/view/liblzo2-2/ Aug 24 18:27:22 so according to that it should be in nokia base repo and in SDK Aug 24 18:27:42 nokia base repo might have issues due to the expired key Aug 24 18:27:53 check your log Aug 24 18:50:34 I too couldnt find backup menu in the repos. it just says package not found. Aug 24 19:16:57 freemangordon_: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! http://maemo.org/packages/view/backupmenu/ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Aug 24 19:18:05 nevermind Aug 24 22:13:42 one week offline! :O without any inet connection! and without my N900 !! it was terrible.. however welcome back Aug 24 22:14:41 y no n900? no mobile coverage? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Aug 25 02:59:58 2013