**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Sep 27 02:59:58 2013 Sep 27 06:18:36 o.O, cherry, notmynokia, fm-boost? Sep 27 07:36:22 hi all Sep 27 07:36:38 I don;t know what to do Sep 27 07:36:59 to install android in n900 ? Sep 27 07:37:06 can memo run android apps? Sep 27 07:39:23 1) Old (possibly un-maintained) android versions and you need to make u-boot kernel (and hope it'll work) 2) No. Sep 27 07:52:56 hi Sep 27 07:53:21 I don't know if to use only memo or android Sep 27 07:53:27 I have some missing apps in memo Sep 27 07:53:37 what do U think ? Sep 27 07:54:13 At your knowledge level, I'd say you wouldn't be ready for android anytime soon. Sep 27 07:54:44 Rather android on N900. Sep 27 08:01:08 I see Sep 27 08:01:17 I read about nitroid , so I thote to use it? Sep 27 08:02:41 I don't know what "thote" means. nitdroid is basically android ported to N900, it is not a simple drop-in solution and it does not work with every hardware functionality N900 has to offer. Sep 27 08:28:47 I see Sep 27 08:28:53 thanks Sep 27 09:25:57 hi there, need some help here :) Sep 27 09:27:44 I've been using the n900 with qt-mobile-hotspot as a modem for quite some while and it worked like a charm on all my machines, until it stopped today :/ Sep 27 09:28:40 but just on my ubuntu 12.10 pc, where there some kernel-changes that rendered the hotspot unusable or might it something else? Sep 27 11:01:43 * DocScrutinizer05 rethinks about topic Sep 27 16:44:36 are there n900 owner here that still consider N900 has the only yet suitable phone atm ? Sep 27 16:58:20 troulouliou_dev: yes, a few of them, including me. though, with NeoN900 there is hope for a true successor. Sep 27 16:58:49 NIN101, ha cool i missed the news, checking now.. Sep 27 16:59:33 NIN101, any link ? Sep 27 17:00:04 http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=91142 Sep 27 17:01:50 NIN101, awesome Sep 27 17:01:57 bigger screenwould benice too.. Sep 27 17:06:30 NIN101, the phone application / firmware are open source ?? Sep 27 17:09:40 no. Sep 27 17:10:09 NIN101, even with shr/qtmoko ... Sep 27 17:12:20 no way you get a full FOSS open source cell phone stack on N900, afaik. Sep 27 17:14:59 NIN101, do you think such project can be avilable in 2014 ? Sep 27 17:15:10 i mean neo900 Sep 27 17:16:18 I'am also using n900 as daily phone... Sep 27 17:17:03 Pali, do you browse internet sites with it ? Sep 27 17:17:45 NIN101: SHR works on N900 Sep 27 17:17:50 somehow Sep 27 17:18:06 now yes :-) my daily notebook is repairing Sep 27 17:18:18 it's probably not first class support, but basic stuff works and it's 100% FOSS Sep 27 17:18:49 and I'am using usb ethernet card in host mode Sep 27 17:18:56 dos1, phone calls works ? Sep 27 17:19:18 Pali, really my dlink usbeth card never worked Sep 27 17:19:24 with wpa_supplicant which is needed for 802.1x auth Sep 27 17:19:29 Pali, what browser do you use ? Sep 27 17:19:36 I recall there were some problems with poor audio quality Sep 27 17:19:39 but yes, it worked Sep 27 17:19:39 classic browser Sep 27 17:20:17 but with patched some parts... Sep 27 17:20:19 Pali, i still cant find a suitable browser for me .. and i find screen size a little bit too slow Sep 27 17:21:08 dos1, will check thanks Sep 27 17:21:53 troulouliou_dev: but I don't know anything about current state, n900 images might be broken atm Sep 27 17:22:37 dos1, i jsut never heard of it before 10 min ago :) i think i ll buy a gta04 phone right now with SHR Sep 27 17:23:19 hm, is nokia eapd daemon supporting EAPOL on wired interfaces? Sep 27 17:23:44 or only wireless wl1251? Sep 27 17:24:43 it is bad that I need two daemons (eapd and wpa_supplicant) which doing same thing Sep 27 17:25:23 but nokias icd2 can use only eapd and I did not find way how to use eapd with wired ethernet... Sep 27 17:29:08 Pali, so the host kernel/patch can work with any device, not only usb flash/disk ? Sep 27 17:31:37 yes Sep 27 17:31:50 with any device which has kernel driver in 2.6.28 Sep 27 17:33:09 but for some you need usb hub with external power supply Sep 27 17:46:44 hi al Sep 27 17:46:53 any one know about this project: Myriad Alien Dalvik Sep 27 17:47:11 I am looking for android VM under memo Sep 27 18:03:41 does anybody know any other EAPOL implementation for linux (except wpa_supplicant)? Sep 27 18:19:07 i think my n900 died yesterday :( R.I.P Sep 27 18:20:19 noo :( Sep 27 18:22:31 it was just ideling, then it shutdown and now there a millions if inode errors in ext3 dont thing, this is a fs problem, maybe, but i thing the flash driver died Sep 27 18:30:00 ext3 is on eMMC Sep 27 18:30:15 and maybe only fs corruption Sep 27 18:30:34 do full reflash (both combined and emmc) Sep 27 18:30:40 I will reflash it tommorow then i will se Sep 27 18:30:42 does anybody know any good electronic circuit simulation software? Or maybe simple schematic editor? Preferably multiplatform or at least capable of exporting to popular formats Sep 27 18:47:47 ltspice? Sep 27 18:47:55 qucs? Sep 27 18:48:40 and what's that online javascript one... circuitlab.com? Sep 27 18:54:31 I can't find a linux version of ltspice Sep 27 18:54:42 and qucs version looks scary 0.0.17 Sep 27 19:03:42 :) Sep 27 19:04:16 ltspice is generally ok in wine Sep 27 20:11:18 I thought spice is available for linux as well? Also: eagle Sep 27 20:11:39 for simple schematics editor Sep 27 20:12:23 and what been that other editor? diag? Sep 27 20:14:13 dia Sep 27 20:31:15 Seems like the inquirer left. Sep 27 20:59:40 hey, does anyone have patches for 3.x.x kernel? Sep 27 21:06:45 It's on the github. Sep 27 21:16:27 which one? do you have a link? Sep 27 21:19:24 Correction, gitorious, not github: http://gitorious.org/linux-n900 Sep 27 22:08:33 hey guys Sep 27 22:08:57 my /var/run/resolv.conf has this written in it Sep 27 22:09:12 nameserver 172.16.13.219 Sep 27 22:09:25 nameserver 203.82.48.3 Sep 27 22:09:29 is this normal Sep 27 22:09:44 cuz my gprs is not working on n900, just stopped working a lil while back Sep 27 22:09:58 It's whatever your DHCP provider gave for your resolv.conf. Sep 27 22:10:06 There's a thread on maemo.org. Sep 27 22:10:13 the /etc/resolv.conf contains 127.0.0.1 Sep 27 22:10:41 ok can i just delete all these enntries wil they be created auto if i restart device? Sep 27 22:10:44 That's localhost, also dnsmasq does that.. It adds 127.0.0.1 to the head of /etc/resolv.conf Sep 27 22:11:43 They should be created automatically pending on dnsmasq (which normally should be at boot) and then DHCP via networking. Sep 27 22:12:24 hmm Sep 27 22:12:37 ok i'll take a copy of these delete entries Sep 27 22:12:41 If there's no networks connected chances are there would be no extra lines below 'nameserver 127.0.0.1'. Sep 27 22:14:00 * psycho_oreos bets your router would have told your N900 those extra nameservers. Sep 27 22:14:07 in /etc/resolv.conf there is nothing but the 127.0.0.1 Sep 27 22:14:26 Yeah, again.. dnsmasq. Sep 27 22:15:50 If you just rebooted your device and have re-connected back onto the network. After you got your DHCP lease, you don't see any extra entries below that line, chances are you most likely would have set those yourself. Sep 27 22:16:09 hm Sep 27 22:22:25 the device rebooted its conneting to internet now Sep 27 22:22:49 but all the entries are same everywhere, the /var/run/resolv.conf has again got the same IPs Sep 27 22:22:54 but things r now working Sep 27 22:23:44 * psycho_oreos doesn't know what was not working before. Sep 27 22:23:51 lol Sep 27 22:24:01 device cudnt access the internet :) Sep 27 22:24:27 That sounds like a rather vague/open-ended question. Sep 27 22:24:59 1) No gateway defined? 2) Firewall issues? 3) DNS not working/resolving? Sep 27 22:25:10 no idea Sep 27 22:25:54 I'd say learn some more stuff about networking, ideally stuff to do with using the right tools to diagnose under linux. Sep 27 23:10:25 hmmm Sep 27 23:10:56 is ping in messybox? Sep 27 23:13:15 symlink to busybox here yeah Sep 27 23:34:13 anyone make busybox suid root, so ping would work? :o Sep 27 23:34:42 i just run ping as root Sep 27 23:35:21 on one of my embedded boxes, I chmod +s busybox :o Sep 27 23:35:30 heh Sep 27 23:36:26 the busybox guys did spend some effort making sure it drops root right away for most things so it's not as bad as one would think Sep 27 23:39:14 (besides, how else would su->busybox work? :o Sep 28 01:00:53 ecc3g: that's a pretty bad idea Sep 28 01:01:07 suid messybox Sep 28 01:01:34 and su in messybox is not working Sep 28 01:04:17 btw how would messybox know that it shouldn't drop permissions for ping? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Sep 28 02:59:58 2013