**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Oct 20 02:59:58 2013 Oct 20 05:25:22 this doesn't mean a thing Oct 20 05:31:44 it's a normal message from WLAN driver not special to N900 nor maemo nor does it indicate an already flawed WiFi signal situation. In short: you see it everywhere and it not really means a problem: http://forum.ubuntu-it.org/viewtopic.php?t=500060 Oct 20 05:32:52 when your IRC connections die while ssh is stable, you got completely different problems than WiFi signal strength Oct 20 05:34:09 e.g your keep-alive ping interval might be too high to keep any NAT session alive that's possibly in the route from your client to IRC network server Oct 20 05:35:02 or your IRC server you connect to is simply flaky, not enything unheard in freenode either Oct 20 05:36:58 run a `ping 8.8.8.8` in a terminal on N900 and see if that stops the connection loss. Oct 20 05:39:06 also check what's your IRC server (you see this during login, in "freenode" tab. might be sth like pratchett.freenode.net (([Whois] mashina is online via pratchett.freenode.net (Rennes, France).)) Then run a ping against that server, possibly keeping open any NAT session and also stopping WLAN from entering deep sleep PSM Oct 20 05:39:59 if that changes situation repeatably, come back here for further advice, since a ping is no fix but only a diagnostic means Oct 20 05:46:02 http://www.spinics.net/lists/maemo-users/msg16155.html Oct 20 05:46:17 try to set PSM to medium or low Oct 20 05:47:00 possibly your AP and the N900 WiFi firmware don't harmonize on PowerSavingMode Oct 20 05:50:27 http://features.techworld.com/mobile-wireless/4103/a-guide-to-wi-fi-power-save-technologies/ Oct 20 05:52:54 http://wiki.maemo.org/Wifi_power_saving_mode Oct 20 09:12:07 hi all Oct 20 09:12:33 is there simple appliction that can send sms when missed call? Oct 20 09:12:39 like I will can back or I am driving? Oct 20 09:56:17 Hi! i need help: my n900 never boot if battery not copleate charge Oct 20 09:56:40 it's always switch off, if i try power on my N900 Oct 20 09:56:55 now i need switch on my N900 fastly Oct 20 09:57:23 is any hack to power on n900 without check charger of battery? Oct 20 09:59:10 if your N900 wont power on then your battery doesn't have enough power Oct 20 09:59:16 you need to charge your battery Oct 20 09:59:23 then it will properly charge Oct 20 10:01:06 it's hardware bug, i think Oct 20 10:01:31 loader don't correct check level of battery Oct 20 10:01:57 only if battery copmplete (100%) charging, Oct 20 10:02:05 my phone load OS :( Oct 20 10:02:17 if green light is Oct 20 10:02:30 if ellow light, it's never boot :( Oct 20 10:02:46 is any way to hack it? Oct 20 10:03:07 f.e. remove check of battery level in loader? Oct 20 10:04:16 how i may hack the loader of Maemo OS? Oct 20 10:10:12 this is hardware and never heard about such problem, I guess yiur battery is defect Oct 20 10:12:45 i have 3 battery Oct 20 10:13:16 one good, and 2 not good (small time for work N900) Oct 20 10:13:49 degradation on small temperature (I'm from Russian, russian winter...) Oct 20 10:14:07 and with 3 battery is this bug :( Oct 20 10:14:50 my be i may remove checker of battery level with OS loader? Oct 20 10:14:54 how i may it? Oct 20 10:15:15 *i'm from Russia Oct 20 10:15:52 could anybody help me to hack OS loader? Oct 20 10:16:56 you cant repair a dead battery with software Oct 20 10:17:33 As far as I know, nobody has tried to hack the os loader Oct 20 10:17:34 who check level of battery before load os? Oct 20 10:17:53 is :(( Oct 20 10:18:04 mdew Oct 20 10:19:09 also, i have another N900 with not light of screen Oct 20 10:19:19 ... Oct 20 10:19:43 may be, in service may put miscro cheme of loader, Oct 20 10:20:06 and put it on another n900? Oct 20 10:20:51 I found bleach in app and I installed it... but no gui? Oct 20 10:22:01 does orange led shine steady, or is it glowing/pulsing? Oct 20 10:22:18 Anythinh shown on screen? Oct 20 10:23:23 and my dropbox does not recognize my account Oct 20 10:23:30 does never authenticate Oct 20 10:50:04 hi DocScrutinizer05 Oct 20 10:50:46 I am looking for simple appliction that can send sms when I missed call, some sms template, like "I am a way" or "I am in a meeting" any idea? Oct 20 11:02:52 look for the python script in ~phonecontrol. It's not simple but does almost what you're looking for Oct 20 11:06:49 just it waits for an inbound SMS "ping" to answer hardcoded "pong" Oct 20 11:07:21 yours needs to wait for inbound call or even better for inbound call missed notifier popping up Oct 20 11:21:47 thankyou Oct 20 11:28:24 DocScrutinizer: ping Oct 20 11:28:30 DocScrutinizer05: ping Oct 20 11:34:13 hmm? Oct 20 11:34:28 hmm, now I forget why I wanted to talk to you :P Oct 20 11:35:45 ayeeeh Oct 20 11:36:47 btw I will do whatever I can towards helping with Neo900 RE work Oct 20 11:36:59 maybe you want to know that I'm not inclined to mce-bugfix any time soon Oct 20 11:37:15 no time Oct 20 11:38:36 heck, MCE is already the biggest piece of reverse engineering work in the maemo community :) Oct 20 11:38:50 DocScrutinizer05: hello Oct 20 11:38:54 hi! Oct 20 11:38:57 any comments about that news piece, or should i publish it as it is? Oct 20 11:39:19 well, I already siad it's probably ok Oct 20 11:39:25 ask Nikolaus though Oct 20 11:39:30 k Oct 20 11:41:18 s/all donated/your donated/ Oct 20 11:43:22 I just hope the USB port on my N900 doesn't fail, otherwise all my dev work will grind to a halt (its dangerously close to failing) Oct 20 11:43:34 and maybe we don't want customers to judge about feasibility, that sounds not right. We want to allow them to judge if the project is what they expect Oct 20 11:43:43 I would do the fix for it but I dont have the skills, tools or know-how Oct 20 11:44:21 jonwil: then immediately let it repair in a repair shop Oct 20 11:44:29 **imediately** Oct 20 11:44:33 I cant find a local repair shop that can do repairs Oct 20 11:44:44 all of them dont even wanna touch a N900 Oct 20 11:44:55 only usual crap like iCrap screen repalcements Oct 20 11:44:56 damn, what idiots Oct 20 11:45:21 no nokia care around? Oct 20 11:46:05 there is a nokia care but I think they dont do any repairs, just send things away for advice Oct 20 11:46:09 or a technical university or club? Oct 20 11:46:28 dont know anyone with electronics skills around Oct 20 11:50:21 its a matter of finding not just someone that does phone repairs but someone who can do the USB repair Oct 20 11:50:30 dos1: on the final device price, >>and give us a feedback if there are enough customers so we can dare to continue development. Oct 20 11:52:31 jonwil: everybody who does phone repair that involves soldering can do *now*. This may change to the worse once you completely ripped the USB off the mainboard Oct 20 11:52:43 ok Oct 20 11:55:42 Not exactly sure what I should be asking for when I go to these shops, i.e. what I should tell them I need them to do Oct 20 11:56:33 print out this: Oct 20 11:56:36 ~usbfix Oct 20 11:56:36 usbfix is probably http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75920 - and **NEVER** use epoxy (unless you want to seal your device for underwater) Oct 20 11:56:44 there are pictures Oct 20 11:57:37 more than sufficient for an electrician with a soldering iron to know what to do Oct 20 11:58:18 probably even a goldsmith could do Oct 20 11:58:31 so basically go to the shop, show them the stuff between the "--------------------------" in that post and then ask if that is something they have the facilities to carry out Oct 20 11:59:34 http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=547991&postcount=20 Oct 20 12:00:03 ok Oct 20 12:00:45 jonwil, there's a mob known as FixMyMobile, it's where I got/am getting my nokia phone/devices fixed. Oct 20 12:01:12 http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1191819&postcount=116 Oct 20 12:01:31 they are in Brisbane, I am in Perth Oct 20 12:01:54 http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1073214&postcount=22 Oct 20 12:02:06 Hmm bugger, there might be stalls that can do it. Oct 20 12:02:59 I will probably print out those links and go to a few repair shops (not the stalls that do "iphone screen repairs" and are filled with 100s of iPhone and iPad and iPod covers and cases, the actual shops that do repairs Oct 20 12:03:21 show them the N900 and the printout and say "is this a fix you can do and what will it cost" Oct 20 12:03:26 DO NOT use glue Oct 20 12:04:12 also print out service manual L1_2 Oct 20 12:04:34 they will need it to correctly and safely disassemble the device Oct 20 12:05:02 well at least one shop I know is the shop that replaced the screen surround parts (the one with the little Nokia logo on it) Oct 20 12:06:53 in L1_2 cross out all pictures that show steps not needed to access the USB port Oct 20 12:07:36 otherwise the dude in shop might get overwhelmed by the number of steps it seems to take to do this disassembly Oct 20 12:08:13 I will probably be going to shops that say "we do board level repairs" Oct 20 12:08:20 e.g. this one http://www.ctf.com.au/physical_damage.html Oct 20 12:08:29 that one says they can do anything up to replacing chips Oct 20 12:08:43 I will try a few shops in my local area Oct 20 12:11:22 https://sites.google.com/site/svcr0c0/n900 is maybe better than L1_2 but do NOT use fingernail to unplug the cable, use a credit card and lever it out carefully, it's very delicate Oct 20 12:13:25 I will worry about it Oct 20 12:13:37 jonwil: yes, that shop sounds very adequate Oct 20 12:14:01 there are a few that can probably do it Oct 20 12:14:18 I will go to a few with printout of the USB repair bits and see what they say about whether they can do it Oct 20 12:14:21 they explicitly offer "charger port" fix Oct 20 12:14:58 they also offer backup battery replacement, so maybe you want to get this as well when you're already there Oct 20 12:15:12 yeah that makes sense Oct 20 12:17:05 If they dont know N900 because they dont have the service manual, I will point them at the PDF :) Oct 20 12:19:21 jonwil: when you drop by at them, can you ask them if they can replace the SoC (and storage) in a N9 please? Oct 20 12:19:48 particularly if they can get replacement chip Oct 20 12:22:44 if they can, you might want to get as many as you can get, at least for your own Neo900 to get 1GB of RAM Oct 20 12:23:26 I doubt I will remember to ask about that Oct 20 12:23:30 but if I do I will ask :P Oct 20 12:23:51 I will help you to remember Oct 20 12:23:52 as for Neo900, I haven't said I can afford to buy a Neo900 Oct 20 12:24:24 when the USB fix ever fails, your only option is a Neo900, and that will not come with 1GB of RAM when you can't find that chip Oct 20 12:25:15 now I guess you can't help but remember this the very moment you receive your fixed N900 at that shop Oct 20 12:25:53 thats if the shop can fix it, I dont know if they can or not Oct 20 12:25:57 since you will wonder how good this USB repair will save your N900 Oct 20 12:26:11 they *can* fix this USB Oct 20 12:26:16 110% Oct 20 12:26:39 it's their easiest job of the day Oct 20 12:27:28 assuming its not already too damaged to repair with that fix Oct 20 12:27:36 and finding spare RAM chip for N9 will be their all time nightmare Oct 20 12:27:51 does it still work? Oct 20 12:28:33 it appears to Oct 20 12:28:41 then they CAN fix it Oct 20 12:28:58 unless you ruin it before they can do Oct 20 12:29:13 it works but there was a time when I bumped the plug and it flicked to "disconnect charger" and "charging" Oct 20 12:29:18 hence why I am starting to worry Oct 20 12:29:31 * Sicelo is one of those who doubt they can afford Neo900 :( Oct 20 12:29:40 tell them about it, they can manage that too Oct 20 12:29:44 I am also on the list of people who cant afford a Neo900 Oct 20 12:30:29 at least so long as I remain unemployed :( Oct 20 12:30:46 jonwil: I guess you qualify for a developer-program device Oct 20 12:30:58 +1.. he deserves one :) Oct 20 12:31:09 I think my work on MCE would be more than enough reason for dev-program access Oct 20 12:31:48 it is the biggest single piece of reverse engineering done in the history of Maemo Oct 20 12:32:34 i saw in #maemo-cssu backscroll.. so MCE has now been busted open? completely? Oct 20 12:32:54 yep Oct 20 12:32:56 How can I see recent events? Oct 20 12:33:11 nice one jdoles :P Oct 20 12:33:16 I accidentally closed the event. Oct 20 12:33:22 recent events .. what events? Oct 20 12:33:23 it doesn't matter if somebody deserves anything - that may matter later when we have mass production devices. Developer devices are loaners handed out to those who *need* one to make fremantle port work Oct 20 12:33:31 :) Oct 20 12:33:35 Sicelo: "missed calls", "you have a new message", etc. Oct 20 12:33:44 Sicelo: the thing in yellow. Oct 20 12:33:46 well I dont deserve a loaner device Oct 20 12:34:01 because I doubt I will be able to contribute enough dev programming time to make good use of it Oct 20 12:34:37 i.e. I would be doing more RE than writing code and I dont need a dev device for RE Oct 20 12:34:52 A loaner device should go to whoever already has an application running in a virtual environment. Oct 20 12:34:59 jdoles: your message is still on Conversations, highlighted blue. and your missed call is still in the Phone application Oct 20 12:35:18 loaner devices should also go very much to kernel guys Oct 20 12:35:18 jdoles: we're not dealing with apps here Oct 20 12:35:27 who would be doing kernel and system-bits dev Oct 20 12:35:40 i.e. MCE, kernel, DSME, BME, ke-recv and other hardware bits Oct 20 12:35:41 +1 Oct 20 12:35:53 exactly Oct 20 12:36:05 So yeah there is now code available that (assuming no bugs caused by incorrect reverse engineering) should match exactly to MCE of PR1.3 Oct 20 12:36:05 * Sicelo agrees Oct 20 12:36:08 apps are considered compatible Oct 20 12:36:31 I think if the device cannot be developed without physical hardware that the software ecosystem is broken. Oct 20 12:36:37 so no app developer needs a devel device Oct 20 12:36:44 so yeah I dont need a loaner because I wont be writing the kind of code people need loaners for Oct 20 12:37:11 jdoles: I think you lack a complete picture of what we're talking about here# Oct 20 12:37:14 jdoles: ? Oct 20 12:37:23 DocScrutinizer05: probably. Oct 20 12:38:26 so yeah I think my N900 is still lowish risk of USB damage as of right now but its high enough risk that its worth getting the USB repair done now rather than taking risk of e.g. bumping device wrong and causing cable to pull USB device slightly and break it too much to fix Oct 20 12:38:54 yes Oct 20 12:39:01 Sicelo: I think for any "driver" (i.e. runs in some kind of privileged mode) it should be possible to develop it without having a physical device. Oct 20 12:39:25 sure, but how would you TEST it? Oct 20 12:40:00 DocScrutinizer05: there is no reason to test it, unless the hardware guys didn't write a contract (cf. design by contract). Oct 20 12:40:14 how would you TEST the new accelerometer in Neo900? Oct 20 12:40:27 WUT? Oct 20 12:40:47 If it's some community hackjob, then I suppose it couldn't be done like this. Oct 20 12:40:56 I have seen enough hardware dev stuff to know that writing drivers without the physical hw is a bad idea Oct 20 12:40:57 uhuh Oct 20 12:41:00 yay! :-/ Oct 20 12:41:29 like I said, you're missing a clear picture of what we're doing Oct 20 12:41:50 btw *I* am "the hw-guy" Oct 20 12:42:34 If you created the hardware, you should write a specification saying after how many seconds a particular signal arrives. Oct 20 12:42:35 and community is writinf the drivers and adaption, e.g. in MCE Oct 20 12:42:47 aha Oct 20 12:42:50 The same for the shape of the signal, etc. Oct 20 12:42:55 interesting Oct 20 12:43:03 ;-P Oct 20 12:43:12 I.e. a complete specification of everything that your magic device does. Oct 20 12:43:13 writing drivers with just the specs is a bad idea, you need physical hw at all Oct 20 12:43:23 *sigh* Oct 20 12:43:30 You only need physical hardware if the specification is not complete. Oct 20 12:43:37 jonwil: futile effort Oct 20 12:43:52 That way, there is even no reason to test it. You can just prove that it works. Oct 20 12:44:05 BWAHAHAHA Oct 20 12:44:24 I meant you do need physical hardware Oct 20 12:44:32 I understand, and I am saying you don't. Oct 20 12:44:40 life isn't *that* easy Oct 20 12:44:53 * kolp is looking for popcorn Oct 20 12:45:00 jdoles: Have you ever done linux kernel development? Hardware work? Anything low-level? Oct 20 12:45:20 especially when we're talking about pretty complicated device consisting of lots of 3rd-party modules Oct 20 12:45:20 If not, stfu and let the people who HAVE done such work decide how it is best done Oct 20 12:45:21 jonwil: I have written some drivers. Oct 20 12:45:29 hmmm ok Oct 20 12:45:45 have you written hardware drivers without hardware (or simulated hardware) in hand? Oct 20 12:46:00 jonwil: no. Oct 20 12:46:06 :D Oct 20 12:46:10 ask freemangordon about DT and clock dividers in 3.12 kernel, and how he had debuugged that crap when he hadn't had access to hardware to test it Oct 20 12:46:12 jonwil: or, actually, I did. Oct 20 12:46:30 jonwil: I got a few weeks to develop a driver without the physical hardware and only a manual. Oct 20 12:47:02 jonwil: but this is still irrelevant. Oct 20 12:47:26 jonwil: just because everyone is doing it in a particular way now, doesn't mean they aren't all doing it wrong. Oct 20 12:47:45 jonwil: 99.99% of people also develop software in the wrong way. Oct 20 12:47:59 sure Oct 20 12:48:16 All I see are projects that are never *finished*. Oct 20 12:48:16 so yes, in utopian world you're absolutely right Oct 20 12:48:21 and jes err jdoles is our savior who tells us the truth Oct 20 12:48:27 but utopian world does not exists Oct 20 12:48:42 A computer is just a circuit which is evaluated. Oct 20 12:48:53 (repeatedly) Oct 20 12:49:06 I don't see any reason for introducing errors. Oct 20 12:49:12 /whois jdoles Oct 20 12:49:18 the great jdoles who never wrote a code with any bug, not a single one. His software works when finished, doesn't need testing. Ever Oct 20 12:51:05 actualle he removed the backspace key from all his keyboards Oct 20 12:51:46 since he never falls for any mistake Oct 20 12:52:42 jdoles: the problem is: even when we all learn to be as smart as you seem to be, we need to deal with code written by other less smart devels Oct 20 12:52:54 unless we write everything anew from scratch Oct 20 12:53:15 DocScrutinizer05: the solution for that is to fire all those people. Oct 20 12:53:29 :) Oct 20 12:53:37 I applaud rewriting everything from scratch. Oct 20 12:53:42 and particularly for hw drivers I don't know a 100% proven test except running it against the real hardware Oct 20 12:53:48 If you don't do it right the first time, you just need to do it again. Oct 20 12:54:14 jdoles: I' almost ready to kick you for trolling Oct 20 12:55:04 I find it a rather weak excuse to point at other supposedly less smart people and blame them for the failure. Oct 20 12:55:22 one more please Oct 20 12:55:52 jdoles: if you've got all resources needed to develop whole device from scratch by yourself, then go for it! Oct 20 12:56:35 we will be happy if we find resources to develop just a device using 3rd-party modules, which might or might not be perfect Oct 20 12:56:38 and usually, are not Oct 20 12:56:44 dos1: the only thing he can do, since even testing the 100% bugfree nature of the other co-devels needs testing on real hardware Oct 20 12:57:09 dos1: don't feed the troll Oct 20 12:58:05 his approach is from utopia anyway Oct 20 12:58:13 or just trolling Oct 20 12:59:45 and if he actually written anything more complex than bitbanging I2C and claims to have done this without a single glitch in it that needed testing to get debigged, he's a liar Oct 20 13:00:11 s/if he/if he claims to have/ Oct 20 13:00:12 hi Oct 20 13:00:13 DocScrutinizer05 meant: and if he claims to have actually written anything more complex than bitbanging I2C and claims to have done this without a single glitch in it that needed testing to get debigged, he's a liar Oct 20 13:00:26 can someboy help me fix my n900 speed bug Oct 20 13:01:04 spped? Oct 20 13:01:06 speed bug rd1381? Oct 20 13:01:08 speed even? Oct 20 13:01:10 There is a way in which you don't need to trust the output from other developers. Oct 20 13:01:53 yes Oct 20 13:02:24 i restored my n900 twice but still it has this wierd bug Oct 20 13:02:59 when i use apt-get it gets the first 300kb of files ok ut then it gets stuck Oct 20 13:04:19 df -h Oct 20 13:05:55 can somebody help me? Oct 20 13:06:31 pastebin the result of `df -h` Oct 20 13:06:37 oh Oct 20 13:06:40 sorry Oct 20 13:07:00 i can pasebin it Oct 20 13:07:13 web site loads very slow and buggy Oct 20 13:07:28 but isee that my tmpfs is only 1mb Oct 20 13:07:39 and 256kb Oct 20 13:08:08 "/tmp and /var" Oct 20 13:08:21 is this normal? Oct 20 13:08:32 http://privatepaste.com/94f3935019 compare please Oct 20 13:09:43 i dont have a second sd card inserted Oct 20 13:09:53 but others are more or less the same Oct 20 13:10:08 hmm Oct 20 13:10:15 excpt my /home is 8 gb Oct 20 13:10:22 doesn't matter Oct 20 13:10:30 :-) Oct 20 13:10:32 and mydocs is 21gb Oct 20 13:10:41 yeah, obviously Oct 20 13:11:05 a brand new maemo on n900 is funny Oct 20 13:11:09 then you seem to have other problems Oct 20 13:11:44 WLAN? Oct 20 13:11:49 yep Oct 20 13:11:57 did a bandwith test? Oct 20 13:12:50 wget -O /dev/null Oct 20 13:13:13 no wget :) Oct 20 13:13:19 o.O Oct 20 13:14:31 sysinfo-tool -g /device/sw-release-ver Oct 20 13:16:38 its the " rx-51 2009se_20.2010.36-2.003_pr_003 Oct 20 13:17:02 hmm, you should update Oct 20 13:17:22 update? Oct 20 13:17:29 its the latest version Oct 20 13:17:35 ~pr131 Oct 20 13:17:38 from memory, combined is the rootfs fiasco image of maemo. For N900 latest (PR1.3.1) see http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/fiasco+co/RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin or http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2011/9/--FID--A0A22MVWFVFAM/--LID--FiRe1317015685654/RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin Oct 20 13:18:44 but that's probably not the culprit of your troubles Oct 20 13:18:52 yes Oct 20 13:19:06 but igot these from nokia site for firmware Oct 20 13:19:12 anywy I'd trecommend reflashing Oct 20 13:19:42 where is the site realse notes for this update you linked? Oct 20 13:19:46 yes, it's the last "official" one Oct 20 13:20:02 there's none, basically Oct 20 13:20:13 PR1.3.1 got updated via SSU Oct 20 13:20:29 Nokia never officially published the fiasco image Oct 20 13:20:31 ssu from nokia or cummunity? Oct 20 13:20:37 nokia Oct 20 13:21:07 look at 2nd link above Oct 20 13:22:21 nokia distribution service - file repository . nokia . com Oct 20 13:22:37 its for what region? Oct 20 13:22:53 err MR0 is globl Oct 20 13:23:06 you got 003 Oct 20 13:23:15 but global is safe Oct 20 13:23:30 ok Oct 20 13:23:54 but i dont think bug is from this image Oct 20 13:24:16 but idont have any other thing installed so Oct 20 13:24:21 prolly not. But maybe from some weird app or patch you installed Oct 20 13:24:55 aa wait Oct 20 13:25:28 ls -l /home/user/.rtcom-eventlogger/el-v1.db Oct 20 13:25:37 should be <1MB Oct 20 13:26:37 if it's larger, then you eventually will get cought in swap hell that brings system to a grinding halt Oct 20 13:29:37 38.5M /home/user/.rtcom-eventlogger/el-v1.db Oct 20 13:29:42 wow :) Oct 20 13:31:19 i got 43008 for its size Oct 20 13:36:56 i have this wierd bug Oct 20 13:37:26 i used a proxy to connect to test if it was network problem or not Oct 20 13:38:07 when i close the proxy on my pc and use apt-get to update it correctly says it cant connect Oct 20 13:38:40 but when i run the apt-get and then close the proxy it doesnt give any error and gets stuck in getting files Oct 20 13:39:05 hmm, that *might* be normal Oct 20 13:40:35 just an idea: cat /etc/hosts Oct 20 13:40:38 not on my pc Oct 20 13:40:45 sigh Oct 20 13:40:58 its very frustrating Oct 20 13:41:01 should have 127.0.0.1 only Oct 20 13:41:19 my download speed is very low on my n900 Oct 20 13:41:29 but before it wasnt like this Oct 20 13:42:45 well, I can't help much. Slow download speed is way too fuzzy a bug report Oct 20 13:43:06 yes i know Oct 20 13:43:18 it not just the slow speed Oct 20 13:43:31 its the getting stuck that .... Oct 20 13:44:17 I'd suggest to test it on another hotspot Oct 20 13:45:02 install and run iwconfig Oct 20 13:45:29 install and scrutinze syslog Oct 20 13:45:43 scrutinze? Oct 20 13:45:45 run ping and wget tests Oct 20 13:45:57 i cant install any thing on n900 Oct 20 13:46:04 studdy syslog for anything suspicious Oct 20 13:46:10 then reflash Oct 20 13:46:27 can i use the firmware u send with older fisco image? Oct 20 13:46:29 I mean... when you can't install anything Oct 20 13:46:44 hmm? Oct 20 13:47:02 this is a fiasco image Oct 20 13:47:15 RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin with Latest Vanilla version of the eMMC content for Nokia N900-RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.VANILLA_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM Oct 20 13:47:41 yes Oct 20 13:47:50 btw Oct 20 13:47:58 what is the n900 root pass Oct 20 13:48:04 nothing Oct 20 13:48:06 does it have one? Oct 20 13:48:08 Will nitdroid-installer blow up my U-Boot? Oct 20 13:48:14 caus ei cant use sudo Oct 20 13:48:22 use root Oct 20 13:48:29 or sudo gainroot Oct 20 13:48:42 nitdroid-installer 0.2.6-3 Oct 20 13:48:45 but you need to install rootsh for that Oct 20 13:49:04 Apic: no idea, odds are it will Oct 20 13:49:10 So 'root' is a backdoor that's avail' from the Start? Oct 20 13:49:23 no, you need to install rootsh Oct 20 13:49:23 B-( Oct 20 13:49:26 ic Oct 20 13:49:41 Or enable R&D-Mode, eh? ;-) Oct 20 13:49:47 or that Oct 20 13:50:20 though that's not recommended Oct 20 13:50:31 it has side effects Oct 20 13:50:41 wow Oct 20 13:50:44 nm Oct 20 13:50:50 i think i found the problem Oct 20 13:51:20 Yep, it tries to install multiboot-kernel-maemo Oct 20 13:51:34 Maybe there's a newer Ver than 0.2.6-3 on tha Intarwebs. Oct 20 13:51:35 ~maemo-multiboot Oct 20 13:51:35 maemo-multiboot is probably deprecated, and a horrible hack. PROBLEMS WITH NITDROID/MULTIBOOT? reflash rootfs&kernel aka COMBINED Oct 20 13:52:21 damn!!! Oct 20 13:52:30 without telling us what's been the problem Oct 20 13:52:34 B-( Oct 20 13:53:08 * DocScrutinizer05 makes a note that rd1381 is not a nice guy Oct 20 13:53:45 There's 0.2.7 Oct 20 13:53:47 I'll look at it Oct 20 13:57:50 Nope, I see I even had 0.2.8, and it _still_ depends on that bricky multiboot :-( Oct 20 13:58:02 I give up for the Moment, do not need Android _that_ urgent anyhow. Oct 20 14:32:43 I set my ringtone to a custom file. When I click on this custom file it plays, when I get a call, I get the default sound. This looks like a very basic bug or is the UI just so terrible that I am misunderstanding? Oct 20 14:44:07 Jolly, a bug from 2010. http://discussions.nokia.com/t5/Maemo-and-MeeGo-Devices/Phone-doesnt-ring-after-I-change-profile-from-Silent-to-General/td-p/712436 Oct 20 14:47:12 Apparently it was caused by some "community" code. Oct 20 15:24:04 where is "community" code in that bug/link? Oct 20 15:25:09 looks like jdoles bought the wrong device. a samsung will likely be a better device for him Oct 20 15:35:38 Hi Oct 20 15:47:34 mm0ss, hello Oct 20 15:48:06 Anyone working on a drop box application for meego? Oct 20 15:49:40 now i used maemo ,.i don't know Oct 20 15:51:01 Oooo Oct 20 15:51:09 Brb **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Oct 21 02:59:58 2013