**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Oct 31 02:59:58 2013 Oct 31 04:35:19 anyone else thing we should put neo900 in topic ? Oct 31 04:38:00 b1101, Well, there is a separate neo900 channel. Oct 31 04:38:40 I'm there, but barey anyone else is. Oct 31 04:39:04 I am too, but I have nothing to say. Oct 31 04:39:51 I just want to spread the word about this phone as much as possible Oct 31 04:39:57 I assume The Doctor is asleep at this hour (if he sleeps at all). Oct 31 04:44:14 just donated :) I hope the website updates at least daily. Oct 31 06:31:01 The Doctor is hardly ever sleeping, "the doctor is out" Oct 31 06:32:32 http://www.pyrouniverse.com/gallery2/data/500/Doctor.png Oct 31 06:34:31 ooh, btw: 2440 Oct 31 06:38:23 doc, you are starting to scare me. Oct 31 06:38:58 this is an unreasonable hour for any man, iam only awake because i slept on the hackspace couch. Oct 31 06:42:05 are you powernapping or simply not sleeping healthily? Oct 31 06:42:19 Herbstfreud: wetter ist gut. Oct 31 06:42:29 :) Oct 31 06:43:08 Absolutely right. Oct 31 06:45:40 the shadows yesterday looked like raycasting from mars. today, they are testing the new fogging shader.. Oct 31 06:46:01 And I was in our garden already, shooting some (hopefully) impressive photos on black-and-white film... Oct 31 06:46:17 as well as the procedural frost texture gen Oct 31 06:46:24 sweet. Oct 31 07:08:32 b1101: I won't abuse my mod/admin/councilor status to make advertisements for a private project Oct 31 07:09:17 do it Oct 31 07:09:24 do iiiit Oct 31 07:09:44 besides, it's not exactly a private project Oct 31 07:10:48 well, all of *you* are free to do as much advertising as we al would like to see. _I_ must not do that Oct 31 07:12:03 u wot m8 Oct 31 07:12:27 TOPICLEN=390 Oct 31 07:12:30 ! Oct 31 07:12:43 i don't even think there's space in the topic anymore Oct 31 07:13:56 Welcome to #maemo http://maemo.org/intro/ | N9/harmattan related questions please in #harmattan ! | Please see http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo_Weekly_News | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council | Source: http://wiki.maemo.org/Sources | Chanlog: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | #maemo-ssu is where the (few) devels and maintainers of the maemo-future meet | You might be interested in the Neo900 project: http://neo900.org/ Oct 31 07:14:03 ouch. anyone have any alternative to a "third hand" tool? Oct 31 07:14:19 ...i don't believe that message went through Oct 31 07:14:29 haha Oct 31 07:14:35 yeah, doesn't work Oct 31 07:14:54 oh well, i don't wanna reorganize the topic Oct 31 11:17:47 well, N900 #4 cellmo death Oct 31 12:06:16 DANG!! Oct 31 12:06:32 that's insane Oct 31 12:06:44 Your not having much luck ... is it the climate? Oct 31 12:06:57 or your typing? Oct 31 12:07:32 eh? Oct 31 12:07:41 typing to hard Oct 31 12:08:02 bending PCB -> solderpoints snap open Oct 31 12:08:47 honestly I'd try to reflow the BB5 Oct 31 12:09:23 ah .. I find the occasional red line through sim if in damp environments Oct 31 12:09:53 hmm Oct 31 12:09:54 has there been a successful reflow yet Oct 31 12:10:05 none known of Oct 31 12:10:16 neither non-successful ones Oct 31 12:11:12 I thought one bright spark on tmo tried it in his oven Oct 31 12:11:32 yeah, seem to really sth like that Oct 31 12:11:40 recall Oct 31 12:11:44 dang Oct 31 12:11:56 fingers typing stuff I don't even think Oct 31 12:12:23 * DocScrutinizer05 waves and tries to fight the headache Oct 31 12:19:42 hi Oct 31 13:06:28 reflow in.. kitchen oven? Oct 31 13:54:35 ShadowJK: I noticed yesterday that my last n900 that had *some* live in it claims every few minutes that no sim is inserted :/ Oct 31 13:58:24 I've always found it strange how often I hear of problems related to a SIM card and (probably) bad contacts Oct 31 13:59:58 the only phone I've had that issue with was Nokia 2110, and it only happened twice, both times when the phone was loose on the back set of one particular car Oct 31 14:10:28 hmm, piece of paper pressing the sim helped my 2110i Oct 31 14:45:48 the "no sim card" thing on n900 is most of the time totally unrelated to the actual sim card and sim card slot/contacts Oct 31 16:13:54 how do i go about getting flash 10? seems the link on the forums and wiki is dead Oct 31 17:25:30 hi Woody14619 Oct 31 17:25:42 o/ Oct 31 19:05:33 uhmmm, now it says that os will be Debian GNU/Linux, and not maemo? Where can I read about it? The thread is 100 pages long, uh... Oct 31 19:06:02 Sysaxed: There is another thread somewhere about porting maemo Oct 31 19:06:22 but why does it say Debian then? Oct 31 19:06:26 Sysaxed: afaik its the job of the community to port maemo Oct 31 19:25:48 and the shipped OS is only for initial testing Oct 31 19:30:01 Sysaxed: Maemo port is not done by Goldelico, but by community Oct 31 19:30:29 however, this community project will be highly supported, for instance by handing out the devices Oct 31 19:31:15 and making those community efforts easier will be one of the most important points taken into account during the design Oct 31 19:32:01 it will ship with Debian, so you'll be able to boot and verify it it works out of the box, and then you'll be free to install whatever OS you want Oct 31 19:32:43 and hopefully Maemo port will be already available in some decent shape at that time, thanks to work done by community on early prototypes Oct 31 19:33:23 (that's also one of the reasons why we're making a fundraiser - to build those prototypes which the "Fremantle Porting Task Force" will be able to work on) Oct 31 19:37:40 dos1: thank you very much Oct 31 19:38:32 you can also stick with Debian, there should be FSO and some SHR apps in the repo, may be a usable phone if configured properly :) Oct 31 19:41:48 Darn.. Any ideas for workaround: I have 52 .mp3 files with ID3v2 tags, yet my N900 only found tags for 3 of them.. Oct 31 19:42:28 Anyone know if there is something N900 don't like in id3v2 tags and should be avoided? Oct 31 19:44:12 japa-fi rebuild tracker db's? Oct 31 19:45:08 sixwheeledbeast, How does one do that? Oct 31 19:45:42 for gui version download tracker-cfg from repos. Oct 31 19:46:37 ..searching... Oct 31 19:46:48 or "tracker-processes -r" Oct 31 19:46:56 in terminal IIRC Oct 31 19:49:56 sixwheeledbeast, It removed the db& indexeses. Will the indexing start automatically or does it require something to initiate it? Oct 31 19:50:10 Oh, it's automatic :) Oct 31 19:50:31 lol ... expect to wait a while. Oct 31 19:51:01 Darn, same results.. Oct 31 19:52:48 japa-fi: http://talk.maemo.org/search.php?searchid=15786077 - a good few threads on it Oct 31 19:58:19 sixwheeledbeast, Thanks. Testing now the idea of: If the tags have been edited, then perhaps the player does not like them. Now deleting all tags and then re-creating them. Oct 31 19:59:37 most of the tags appeared ok, but all was messed up after they were edited the 1st time Oct 31 20:10:54 hi Oct 31 20:10:55 does the neo900 have an open source baseband as I was told thats the part which allows the FBI in USA to remotely turn on phones? Oct 31 20:22:40 jambo: Developing an open-source baseband is unfortunately complex, and well outside the scope. Oct 31 21:41:44 have a look at neo900.org!!!! Oct 31 21:41:52 o.O Oct 31 21:41:56 \o/ Oct 31 21:48:00 Looks good, sounds good. Oct 31 21:48:50 good typing? Oct 31 21:49:21 if it looks good and sounds good, then it's good? :D Oct 31 21:52:47 It has also to work well. ;) Oct 31 21:55:25 fundraiser seems to be working well :) and neo900? we'll do whatever we can! Oct 31 21:56:26 I'm searching for my last coins for that already... Oct 31 21:56:51 this incredible support is like the wind beneath the wings! (hopefully I got that idiom right :D) Oct 31 22:00:18 wow, nice rate. Oct 31 22:04:02 Impressive rate. o.O Oct 31 22:05:08 DocScrutinizer05: holy shit. Twice as big as I checked before Oct 31 22:05:22 seems like 25k is an easy task Oct 31 22:05:29 haha Oct 31 22:05:47 DocScrutinizer05: no? :( Oct 31 22:05:59 I wouldn't exactly call it "easy" given what we did during last 8 weeks Oct 31 22:06:18 that's right, sorry Oct 31 22:06:56 anyway don't expect this to perpetuate ad infinitum like that Oct 31 22:07:13 also it seems like 6k were donated just by 6 people Oct 31 22:07:17 we seen some substantial early donations, now it starts to get tough Oct 31 22:11:38 holy shit Oct 31 22:11:41 check it agan Oct 31 22:11:43 again* Oct 31 22:12:11 it's around 1300 EUR off Oct 31 22:12:47 some of newest donations failed Oct 31 22:13:06 then repeated, and failed again Oct 31 22:13:12 and all of them are counted Oct 31 22:13:20 but we still should be somewhere aroung 12k Oct 31 22:13:24 oh.. :) Oct 31 22:14:28 so at the morning it's going to decrease a bit Oct 31 22:14:35 jumped to 14k now, but still at the 12k, right? Oct 31 22:14:38 hopefully that 4000 EUR donation went well :) Oct 31 22:14:57 yup Oct 31 22:15:37 even if it didn't, I'm pretty sure that this person did that on purpose :) so if the money is not lost somewhere, he will do that again if needed Oct 31 23:16:43 dos1: I guess I know who did that 4k, and I'm rather sure that's a serious one Oct 31 23:17:45 will receive an invoce for "Neo900 hw prototype development" aiui Oct 31 23:19:08 and afaik this is a national money transfer, so nothing should go awry with it Oct 31 23:24:59 :) Oct 31 23:25:17 meanwhile, 10 EUR has arrived :) Oct 31 23:26:25 so we're most probably off by no more than 2k Oct 31 23:27:04 if varu's donation will finally proceed successfully, that is Oct 31 23:27:05 Time to bump the top of the scale to 50,000. Oct 31 23:27:18 so the initial correction will be around 3k Nov 01 02:20:17 anyone available, to check their /tmp/Xorg.0.conf on n900? Nov 01 02:20:56 some kind of fs corruption after a reboot here, getting: "(WW) `fonts.dir' not found (or not valid) in "/". Nov 01 02:21:13 (==) FontPath set to: Nov 01 02:21:15 built-ins Nov 01 02:21:26 which.. isnt sufficient Nov 01 02:30:56 *bleh, and Empathy is being crummy with IRC as well Nov 01 02:32:08 ssh'd into the n900 so going to copy off some files, Nov 01 02:40:42 i have the same messages in Xorg.0.log on a working device Nov 01 02:40:51 bbl Nov 01 02:48:46 nox-: Thanks, Nov 01 02:49:44 np **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Nov 01 02:59:58 2013