**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Nov 08 02:59:58 2013 Nov 08 06:54:08 Is there any way to use WeChat on Maemo 5, preferably without emulating another platform? I saw Alien Dalvik mentioned in the results of my DuckDuckGo query but part of my reason for using a Nokia N900 is to avoid the lameness of the Android OS. Nov 08 07:00:03 The person who recommended WeChat to me uses Apple iOS, which I do not use and do not expect to ever use. Nov 08 07:15:44 * brolin_empey has asked WeChat Support “Is there any way to use WeChat on Maemo 5 on my Nokia N900?”; I will reply to this channel if I receive a reply. Nov 08 07:22:39 brolin_empey: https://github.com/pakesson/ParallelDroid Nov 08 07:33:30 Hurrian: Does ParallelDroid run on Maemo 5? Nov 08 07:48:37 brolin_empey: it does - you'll just have to enable the Android drivers. Nov 08 07:48:55 on Harmattan, it's a bit more involved because there's no GTK, but it works too. Nov 08 08:07:58 Hurrian: I do not have a Nokia N9; I do not use Harmattan. Nov 08 08:08:34 it works on the N900 - you can install a GCC toolchain from the repos and build a new kernel with that. Nov 08 08:10:09 Hurrian: Install a toolchain where? On the N900? On a desktop computer? Nov 08 08:10:28 onto the N900. Nov 08 08:13:17 Hurrian: Maybe I can convince freemangordon or pali to include the Android OS device drivers in the kernel-power so I do not need to sidetrack myself to build and install a custom kernel for Maemo 5? Nov 08 08:14:28 that's a big 'maybe' - they're unnecessary for Fremantle, add to the runtime memory footprint of the kernel, and are only interesting to whoever would like to run Android alongside Maemo. Nov 08 08:14:52 you can always try, though - IIRC e-yes pushed the android drivers to the kernel in a squashed commit Nov 08 08:18:31 Hurrian: I have still not yet even tried the (prerelease) kp52 build pali made so I could test dm9601.ko + asix.ko with my hardware after pali finally applied my 2 patches from 2013-08-15 . Nov 08 08:20:54 * brolin_empey needs to relocate himself to his bed && sleep. Nov 08 15:03:16 what is the capacity of the stock BL-5J? Nov 08 15:03:31 1320 Nov 08 15:03:50 ok, I heard the older ones had lower capacities Nov 08 15:22:04 the newer ones have 1350 or sth allegedly Nov 08 15:22:31 1430 :) Nov 08 15:27:11 do they also have a different BSI then? Nov 08 15:27:43 no 1430 one here Nov 08 15:28:07 but an obviously fake one Nov 08 15:29:03 with different shade of "color", different placement of hologram, different printing... Nov 08 17:21:40 holy shit i logged to irc Nov 08 17:24:57 OMG Nov 08 17:25:13 nokiabot logged to IRC!!1!11!!11! Nov 08 17:25:45 and left IRC 136s after noticing his mistake ;-P Nov 08 17:26:27 what the heck is happening Nov 08 17:26:43 where am i actually Nov 08 17:26:54 on earth Nov 08 17:26:59 I hope Nov 08 17:27:00 hello doc Nov 08 17:27:04 hi Nov 08 17:27:40 holy shit my first message on irc transmitted Nov 08 17:27:47 yay Nov 08 17:27:56 actually your 3rd Nov 08 17:28:20 or 4th, counting #maemo-ssu as well Nov 08 17:29:20 so this is #maemo then others like #maemo-ssu etc fall in sub category ? Nov 08 17:29:34 no categories on IRC Nov 08 17:29:38 only channels Nov 08 17:29:50 flat list of channels Nov 08 17:30:02 (layman's approach) Nov 08 17:30:29 hey first ever on irc i logged to all listed in wikiirc :p Nov 08 17:30:54 when you join a channel, it will be there, no matter if it's #jkqibUNHNXDC or ##my-leete-chan Nov 08 17:31:01 dos 1 hi Nov 08 17:31:28 http://wiki.maemo.org/IRC ? Nov 08 17:31:29 tztztz Nov 08 17:31:42 hi dos1 Nov 08 17:31:47 yeah sixwheeled Nov 08 17:32:11 @doc what will be there Nov 08 17:32:36 nokiabot: irc nettiquette: use to autocomplete a so called "highlight" at start of each post Nov 08 17:33:00 so everybody knows whom you're talking to, and you don't mistype the names Nov 08 17:33:16 * sixwheeledbeast is out off to a beer festival :P Nov 08 17:33:23 o.O Nov 08 17:33:27 and when i post anything here is it visible in all maemo channels or are they independent channels Nov 08 17:33:36 in 30 min meat Ing Nov 08 17:34:04 this channel is this channel is this channel Nov 08 17:34:39 there's no real relation between this chan and e.g. #maemo-ssu Nov 08 17:34:46 ok got the basic concept Nov 08 17:35:03 thanx Nov 08 17:35:06 yw Nov 08 17:35:21 also see /topic Nov 08 17:35:27 /topic Nov 08 17:35:47 this is the right place familear faces here . Nov 08 17:35:53 usually has fine info relevant to the channel Nov 08 17:36:38 topic is a channel or ? Nov 08 17:37:26 the wiki is good Nov 08 17:40:53 you were just versioned by doc . What was that? Nov 08 17:42:14 well too sleepy good night guys have a good day Nov 08 17:42:42 1,12,112,16,14,17,19,18,113,1 testing 8,19,17,14,16,112,12,11,1 Nov 08 17:43:04 1,12,112,16,14,17,19,18,113,1 testing 8,19,17,14,16,112,12,11,1 Nov 08 17:43:10 oops Nov 08 17:43:13 don't do this! Nov 08 17:43:40 ok buddy i was just exploring Nov 08 17:44:26 testing Nov 08 17:45:20 good night doc Nov 08 17:45:23 exit Nov 08 17:45:34 n8 nokiabot Nov 08 18:21:46 http://slashdot.org/story/13/11/08/1740232/stephen-elop-would-pull-a-nokia-on-microsoft Nov 08 18:23:13 looks like our jokes were true - everyone's favourite CEO *really* plans to apply the same strategy to Microsoft :D Nov 08 18:24:50 hah. and only days ago i was calling someone's theory about microsoft being a goner in 10 years out as unlikely Nov 08 18:24:58 i figured it would take at least another 15 years Nov 08 18:33:04 what do you think - who's gonna buy Microsoft? ;) Nov 08 18:35:56 depends how much it is for Nov 08 18:36:02 the comments may have it right, tho Nov 08 18:38:58 apple buys microsoft Nov 08 18:39:30 uses associated patent base to destroy samsung and redyce korea to ashes by teaming up the north korea Nov 08 18:52:40 hey there how I flash my mmc Nov 08 19:11:01 oh nitdroid installer flashed it alone Nov 08 19:11:22 anyway... its first loading is very timely Nov 08 19:12:21 wtf... I touch the android bot... it does not start Nov 08 19:14:47 alright finally Nov 08 19:15:22 how can now access google server if I still have not set the wifi password Nov 08 19:15:47 alright... but it is slow Nov 08 19:21:34 wow difficult to manage this nitdroid Nov 08 20:18:29 http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=4425863&cid=45370535 :D Nov 08 20:25:50 hehe Nov 08 20:28:06 did nokia stock price really double when it was announced that he was being sold off to ms? Nov 08 20:28:08 wouldn't surprise me Nov 08 20:52:34 it wasn't that significant Nov 08 21:48:34 what is it that in charge of changing the cpufreq on the n900? (I'm pretty sure that it dropping back to 250MHz is what kills my SIP calls, so I'd like to persuade it to leave that at 600MHz to see if that helps) Nov 08 21:53:11 find /sys/ | grep cpufr Nov 08 22:01:04 unclouded: yeah, but that doesn't help much if one finds that a) you cannot change until you switch to the 'userspace' governor, and perhaps not even then, and b) even if you manage to change that, something is cheerfully changing it back again pretty much immediately Nov 08 22:02:21 /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_min_freq perhaps? Nov 08 22:04:30 filN900:/etc/hal/fdi# echo 600000 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_min_freq Nov 08 22:04:33 sh: write error: Invalid argument Nov 08 22:05:35 as I said, you cannot write it without sodding about with the governor, and often not even then -- it seems that something is setting it back again, and I was trying to find out what Nov 08 22:17:06 Nokia hardware expert: "do NOT lock N900 to 600MHz or it will fry" Nov 08 22:21:03 DocScrutinizer05: ah, fair enough -- so the rumour that the frequency backing off is the cause of SIP calls going shitty after a while is false? Nov 08 22:22:36 cannot say I'm that surprised -- all my previous attempts to get to the bottom of that have been fruitless, so I shouldn't be surprised by another dead-end Nov 08 22:24:31 fil: I can't see how it would fail because of low CPU clock freq. If the codec needed more power, the freq-governor would crank up the clock anyway. And actually most codecs are not that heavy Nov 08 22:25:00 it's rather WPA maybe that causes heavy load Nov 08 22:25:33 or damn PA Nov 08 22:26:34 anyway I'm using my N900 every day for SIP via sipgate.de and it usually "just works" after initial 5s stabilization phase Nov 08 22:27:54 when something goes bonkers then thats regularly and reliably tracker-indexer that kicks in when the recorded call gets written to .wav Nov 08 22:28:23 * DocScrutinizer05 needs to review the tracker.cfg Nov 08 22:29:00 well, I'm grasping at straws a bit -- I was recently forced to rely on my n900 for incomming VoIP, and was thus reminded how dire it is (works for about 30 seconds, then I tend to lose inbound audio -- sometimes recoverable by muting my end briefly) Nov 08 22:30:18 ooh, that bug report is not unheard Nov 08 22:30:42 this is with freeswitch at the other end -- IIRC sipgate was rather better, but not in a very deterministic way Nov 08 22:30:54 it's completely unclear what is causing this Nov 08 22:31:32 I'm reminded of media player stopping playback of net streams :-) Nov 08 22:31:32 I still tend to blame WLAN and swapping Nov 08 22:31:55 and particularly do NOT run recaller to record the call Nov 08 22:32:24 and make sure your audio has no weird stuff configured, like equalizers or whatever Nov 08 22:32:37 DocScrutinizer05: yeah, I know -- I was probably here talking about it every couple of years -- I deal with it by not using VoIP if I can help it (which is really quite annoying as that would be rather useful if it worked) Nov 08 22:32:43 SIP ever worked for me, without any patch on audio Nov 08 22:33:22 you would know if it was you who ran a test call with me Nov 08 22:39:48 dont think I called anyone here, but certainly did a lot of tests with different codecs and the like calling myself and patient friends Nov 08 22:41:18 also seem to remeber getting the same poor performance over USB-net which seems to indicate that it's not WPA/WiFi related in my case Nov 08 23:02:25 hi Nov 08 23:02:36 oh, hi ashley ;v Nov 08 23:02:49 howdy Nov 09 02:11:10 hi Nov 09 02:11:15 OMweather is glitching out Nov 09 02:11:26 I live in australia, and it's showing me weather for tomorrow Nov 09 02:11:38 doesn't matter what I change Nov 09 02:11:57 try flipping the settings upside down **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Nov 09 02:59:58 2013