**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Nov 18 02:59:59 2013 Nov 18 03:04:15 camera never broke, it just needed the cam drivers matching the kernel. That's still the same, and according drivers are available like they been back when Nov 18 03:04:30 DocScrutinizer05: btw, reflashed, seems to work Nov 18 03:04:46 ooh, your corrupted fs? Nov 18 03:04:49 * Wizzup also just 3d printed a n900 stylus Nov 18 03:04:51 DocScrutinizer05: yes Nov 18 03:04:54 good Nov 18 03:05:00 hehe Nov 18 03:05:10 it is actually very decent Nov 18 03:05:11 and nice red Nov 18 04:29:00 DocScrutinizer05: ok - thanks - I'll come back to it when I can get it on wifi connection. Updated just does not work on gprs ;) Nov 18 04:30:34 I actually think the cam question is #1 FAQ with powerkernel Nov 18 04:51:30 DocScrutinizer05: is there a remedy for updating on a slow connection ? ;) Nov 18 05:19:21 umm, probably nothing that would change things fundamentally Nov 18 05:21:47 even with a fast connection HAM is slow, particularly when you got extras-devel enabled. And when you also got extras-testing enabled then you are in for a penalty of additional 5 min for the useless setting Nov 18 05:22:29 Use apt-get. Nov 18 05:22:45 actually you should never do a full update-all with extras-devel enabled Nov 18 05:23:09 to do what? Nov 18 05:23:24 for updating, certainly. Nov 18 05:23:44 for installing, well, depends on how well you know what you're doing. Nov 18 05:24:03 apt-get update might indeed be fast, compared to HAM, but I dunno if it really helps HAM to speed up Nov 18 05:24:40 robbiethe1st: apparently I need a "power kernel" and some cam driver and then the wifihotspot pkg Nov 18 05:24:57 kernel-power, right Nov 18 05:25:13 I run debian on my laptop, so apt-get is not unfamiliar to me Nov 18 05:25:16 Just so you know: "apt-get update" to update; "apt-cache search *nAME*" Nov 18 05:25:34 In that case, it's the same. Most packages are fairly similar to Debian Nov 18 05:25:43 * jpinx ssh's into the n900 Nov 18 05:26:04 Seriously, it's why I love my own N900. I run Debian as well, and it's just... the same. Nov 18 05:27:20 * jpinx forgot the IP numbers :( -- hang on Nov 18 05:27:24 jpinx: apt-get doesn't work like expected on maemo Nov 18 05:27:37 maemo packaging is not exactly debian standard Nov 18 05:27:56 It certainly *seems* to Nov 18 05:28:09 yeah, that's the problem Nov 18 05:28:21 The only issue is that some packages are uninstallable; ones which came with the base install. Nov 18 05:28:28 apt-get dist-upgrade however kills your system Nov 18 05:29:07 and apt-get upgrade is also strongly deprecated Nov 18 05:29:11 ...It can kill your system on Debian, too, if you aren't careful about what packages will be uninstalled. Nov 18 05:30:04 actually apt-get is back in favour for dist-upgrade in debian Nov 18 05:30:34 Personally, I've had no issues. But then again, I'm familiar with dependency conflicts, checking what would get removed/installed before going onward Nov 18 05:30:42 Anyway, off to bed. Nov 18 05:31:11 he abandoned me :( Nov 18 05:33:22 the idea behind maemo packaging is that you update only ONE package: mp-fremantle-generic-pr Nov 18 05:34:05 everything in your system basically is in this metapackage, and so all the other packages have no proper dependencies Nov 18 05:34:48 sheeeesh -- this really is a pita -- now I'm barred from pasting because my IP is listed in honeypt.org :( Nov 18 05:35:04 an apt-get upgrade would likely install new versions of libs that are not compatible with the rest of the system Nov 18 05:35:26 I only wanted to do an update -- but it failed Nov 18 05:35:49 E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/downloads.maemo.nokia.com_fremantle_ssu_apps_._Packages Nov 18 05:36:02 :-/ Nov 18 05:36:24 what's that all about ? Nov 18 05:36:51 downloads.maemo.nokia.com is pretty fux0red Nov 18 05:37:26 and I wouldn't feel surprised when Nokia simply shut it down Nov 18 05:38:10 Hmmm -- what's the alternative for me ? Nov 18 05:38:17 but more likely it's just a temporary outage Nov 18 05:38:50 well, no new packages there anyway, since >12 months Nov 18 05:39:04 iirc Nov 18 05:39:36 I'll try later ;) Nov 18 05:40:19 what are you trying to do? Nov 18 05:41:25 update and install kernel power, cam driver to fix it and wifi hotspot Nov 18 05:41:42 all in extras-devel Nov 18 05:41:51 err, wait Nov 18 05:42:19 I think one tool is actually in base repo and kernel depends on it during installation Nov 18 05:42:36 but maybe Pali fixed that already Nov 18 05:42:47 ~kp Nov 18 05:42:47 extra, extra, read all about it, kp is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=85665 Nov 18 05:46:24 iirc to fix camera you need to uninstall *all* camera apps and then install them again Nov 18 05:46:57 since they might have a dependency to the obsolete kernel cam drivers Nov 18 05:47:45 so first you need to remove all apps that "fix" the old driver in system. With last app to uninstall the old driver vanishes and on installing apps the new driver gets installed Nov 18 05:48:28 probably dpkg -i is a better or at least faster method, since it doesn't care about dependencies Nov 18 05:48:48 so you simply brute-force-update the driver and done Nov 18 06:04:40 but with no apt-get update available -- how to proceed ? Nov 18 07:49:54 DocScrutinizer05: How should I install Pali’s test kernel build from http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pali/kp52+git/ ? Nov 18 07:58:28 DocScrutinizer05: Pali is not here so I cannot ask him (her?). Nov 18 08:57:56 DocScrutinizer05: Never mind, I found the answer in one of my previous conversations with Pali on http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2013-10-23.log.html . ☺ Nov 18 09:00:05 Pali: I just now finally installed your test/prerelease kernel build from http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pali/kp52+git/ . Nov 18 09:01:44 Pali: Now I need to test the updated asix.ko + dm9601.ko device drivers. Nov 18 09:32:34 hello all :D Nov 18 09:39:07 Pali: I have success with asix.ko + my D-Link DUB-E100 hardware version C1 and dm9601.ko + the Ethernet port of the opaque white plastic “1 Port USB Network with 3 Port USB HUB” I bought from eBay. I do not have success with dm9601.ko + the translucent blue plastic JP108-A I likely bought from eBay because no eth?/ethn network interface is created. Nov 18 09:51:58 Pali: Hmm, now I /do/ have success with dm9601.ko + the translucent blue plastic JP108-A I likely bought from eBay. Nov 18 11:34:16 merlin1991: did you receive my request via pkg interface for maintainer on mussorgsky, rtmpdump and get_iplayer? Nov 18 11:35:01 nope, the system does not notify me, I have to check the queue by hand :D Nov 18 11:40:13 android_808: did you try contacting the original maintainers? Nov 18 11:42:00 I tried contacting ifade for mussorgsky last sunday/monday, no reply. Nov 18 11:43:08 Checked activity on TMO for others. RIP's Last Activity on TMO: 09-08-11 03:40 PM, arajantie 01-16-13 10:34 AM but package never been updated Nov 18 11:44:44 give it a few more days, if you've got no reply by sunday I'll happily make you maintainer Nov 18 11:48:27 thanks. Just didn't want mussorgsky getting lost in TMO as it's had quite a few posts about extras version no working anymore. Nov 18 12:31:57 freemangordon: if I ctrl+c during a pkg build, will it later resume where it left off with dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -nc. Gecko taking forever on js/src/jit/* Nov 18 12:32:27 yep Nov 18 12:33:17 android_808: you need good HW (at least 4 cores and 4GB of ram) to build gecko in sane time Nov 18 12:33:43 and no dpkg-buildpackage alwayse starts with make disclean so nope it does not resume Nov 18 12:34:32 merlin1991: -nc comes from "do Not Clean", so yes, it continues from where it was interrupted Nov 18 12:35:02 heh Nov 18 12:35:07 * merlin1991 remembered something differently Nov 18 12:35:28 this is what I use when I test some small changes in gecko Nov 18 12:35:39 ah crap I mixed it up with -uc Nov 18 12:35:50 unsigned changes :P Nov 18 12:36:22 merlin1991: while you are here - what about a new -T update? Nov 18 12:36:28 4 cores - check. Sane ammount of RAM - nope. Host is in need of replacement (2GB), VM running with ...384mb Nov 18 12:36:48 android_808: oh, forget about that, I guess it swaps like mad Nov 18 12:37:07 ooohh yeah. :D Nov 18 12:37:30 android_808: unless you want buildtimes in range of 6-10 hours :P Nov 18 12:37:36 luckily its not using hosts system disk. Nov 18 12:40:45 Gatta_Negra: hi, how's backcover sensor resoldering going on? Nov 18 12:43:50 freemangordon: kinda got used to doing long builds. Once built several Gentoo and LFS images and a LFS/Debian patched to be all i686 compiled using 1.1ghz Duron with 384mb PC133 SDRAM with colinux. 12 hour glibc. Nov 18 12:44:28 oh man, what a patience :D Nov 18 13:24:33 freemangordon, no one tried yet Nov 18 13:25:04 i hope if I succeed in installing Android i will not have the sensor issue Nov 18 13:25:11 i believe it is maemo only issue Nov 18 13:25:24 if i can install linux or android without the scard i mean Nov 18 13:25:45 or if s.one patches that kernel *wink* Nov 18 14:22:38 Gatta_Negra: I doubt android will help you much Nov 18 14:26:40 freemangordon_, I think if it is a kernel thing in maemo and android does not support or care about that ... Nov 18 14:26:44 aaand . Nov 18 14:26:52 if it can not be soldered back Nov 18 14:26:58 is there a way to short them? Nov 18 14:27:08 at least this I can do : D Nov 18 15:30:18 tmo might be slow atm as I am updating some tables... Nov 18 16:33:37 Gatta_Negra: this code (checking for the sensor status) is upstreamed, I really doubt it is missing from the android kernel Nov 18 16:37:50 isn't that stg. that one could disabl compiling their own kernel like the debian kernel? Nov 18 16:38:34 Gatta_Negra: not sure I parse correctly, but you can compile you rown kernel ofc Nov 18 16:38:53 hm hm Nov 18 16:39:02 it will by my last try Nov 18 16:39:10 i think the little black thing is damaged Nov 18 16:39:23 a friend of mine looked at it and he said it is missing his legs Nov 18 16:39:29 its* Nov 18 16:40:04 Gatta_Negra: there are no legs on that package Nov 18 16:40:04 i mean there are dots , metal dots where the umm.. connectors shouldbe, but no visible legs to solder Nov 18 16:40:12 mhm , Nov 18 16:40:15 than kyou Nov 18 16:40:26 so i will turn to a more experienced person :D Nov 18 16:40:44 it'd be wise :) Nov 18 16:42:25 Gatta_Negra: remember, this is BGA package http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ball_grid_array Nov 18 16:44:31 aww! thank you :D I will read that! Nov 18 16:45:19 i added that in my ZIM wiki, will read it at home Nov 18 18:31:17 I'm trying to copy files off of the micro sdcard on my N900 by using an sdcard adapter. Ubuntu doesn't recognize the format and I can't read it. What format is the card usually in? Nov 18 18:32:46 I usually take stuff off via the data cable, but I no longer have it. Nov 18 18:34:30 N900 doesn't change the format, so it's whatever it was before you bought it Nov 18 18:35:41 @ShadowJK any idea why I can't read it via the adapter? Nov 18 18:36:04 not really Nov 18 18:36:07 dmesg? Nov 18 18:36:57 "sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Unhandled sense code" Nov 18 18:37:11 get a new card reader Nov 18 18:37:12 "Sense Key : Hardware Error [current]" Nov 18 18:37:16 :) Nov 18 18:37:36 pastebin all of it Nov 18 18:39:13 it's a repeating message... he's a snippet: http://pastebin.com/w5RC3haG Nov 18 18:39:43 it's possible the adapter doesn't work... I have 2 and I think I've only used one before Nov 18 18:40:12 also if it's a laptop builtin reader you might have trouble Nov 18 18:40:39 oh? I've used the laptop reader before with a similar adapter with no issues Nov 18 18:40:44 hm Nov 18 18:42:48 k.. don't worry about it. I just wanted to know if there was some strange formatting in place that I was unaware of. There must be some issue with my laptop or the adapter Nov 18 18:46:25 I have this one SDHC 4GB card that works only on laptop built-in readers, the USB readers I have don't work (but work fine with my 8 and 16G SDHC cards)... so much for conformity Nov 18 18:47:50 My sheevaplug which runs OS from a usb stick didn't boot again after power outage. Unplugged and replugged usb stick and usb hub. Booted up fine.. Nov 18 18:53:27 freemangordon, is there some guide how to compile maemo kernel? Nov 18 19:25:27 freemangordon, DocScrutinizer05 we installed power kernel 49 and the kernel module for it and now the sdcard is available :D : :D Nov 18 19:25:53 i thank you for all the help! Nov 18 19:29:49 wow! Nov 18 19:30:10 * DocScrutinizer05 wonders what magic this obsolete KP49 has built in Nov 18 19:31:24 probably a bug that's a feature: do *not* care about status of backcover sensor during boot Nov 18 19:31:37 ;-P Nov 18 19:33:58 freemangordon: Pali: ^^^ while this is a nice "feature" it still feels like a bug relevant for QA in KP Nov 18 19:34:38 of course unless it's clearly documented and evaluated and intentional Nov 18 19:35:14 well, s/bug/regression/ Nov 18 19:36:26 uh uh Nov 18 19:36:49 DocScrutinizer05, on a second hand phone .. do I prefer well documented or somehow working? Nov 18 19:37:10 kernel power 49 is available in the maemo reps Nov 18 19:37:19 it's pretty old Nov 18 19:37:30 iirc 52 is recent Nov 18 19:37:49 i believe if we can find the source and have time to see the configs we will succeed in path Nov 18 19:37:55 ching the latest one Nov 18 19:38:19 but you know, i wanted it now :D Nov 18 19:38:22 Pali is master of KP Nov 18 19:39:48 i believe if one should be sure kernel is ok they need to patch it / compile themselves .i am using stock kernel on my laptop now as i do not have time to compile one Nov 18 19:39:53 and pointing out an unexpected effect that's happening in KP is always an issue that needs looking into it, since it might introduce other more severe negative effects as well, and we want to ensure KP working absolutely 100% reliable for all maemo users Nov 18 19:41:00 well then. DocScrutinizer05 , what should i do ? revert back? (no sdcard) or wait for a patch? Nov 18 19:41:08 * RST38h moos Nov 18 19:41:10 will it work with pk52? Nov 18 19:41:49 in software development (well actually in all enineering) you don't accept unsolicited positive effects as "hmm fine, then I don't need to care". Rather you start frowning why that positive effect happens without you taking care to make it happen Nov 18 19:42:12 Gatta_Negra: for you everything fine right now Nov 18 19:42:25 BTW, are KotCzarny and Gatta_Negra the same cat or two? Nov 18 19:42:43 i am alone her Nov 18 19:42:46 here :D Nov 18 19:42:48 ((will it work with pk52?)) that's the point - nobody knows since nobody knows why it works in KP49 Nov 18 19:42:52 this is another feline Nov 18 19:42:57 Ah ok Nov 18 19:44:31 Gatta_Negra: I suggest you wait for proper patch and then update to KP52 Nov 18 19:45:03 Gatta_Negra: ...and find somebody who knows what's BGA and knows how to solder such parts with hot air reflow station Nov 18 19:45:34 my ex BF :((( Nov 18 19:45:45 :eeek: Nov 18 19:45:46 this is so i will keep looking :D Nov 18 19:46:05 i prefer my current BF to patch me a kernel than to go and bother people from the past Nov 18 19:46:16 LOL Nov 18 19:46:28 and I am not giving my new toy to a repair shop so soon after I got it Nov 18 19:47:09 soo easy it could be if i were a boy :D Nov 18 19:47:13 just keep in mind you might destroy uSD card when inserting or removing it while slot is powered Nov 18 19:48:09 no sexism in this channel please ;-D Nov 18 19:50:07 sorry i was joking Nov 18 19:50:11 i am sorry Nov 18 19:51:06 well yes, If using phone with this kernel i will power it off Nov 18 19:58:36 ok, what is the dev environment Nov 18 19:58:52 i mean we decided to try to hack it Nov 18 19:59:40 i reverted back to 52 (as you discouraged me of using a module from a man with 2 posts only (like taking candies from a stranger, right?)) Nov 18 20:10:06 the main question is am i copiling the kernel on the nokia or virtualize the process it on my pc? Nov 18 20:13:03 ok i got this one Nov 18 20:13:11 wish me luck :D Nov 18 20:43:40 uhh entire /home/user/MyDocs partition supercorrupted by the camera :O Nov 18 20:44:31 fsck: "Logical sector size is zero." Nov 18 20:44:38 nice :/ Nov 18 20:45:32 now analysing with testdisk... Nov 18 20:51:07 Is it possible to register `hotkeys' on the maemo main desktop, or globally? Nov 18 21:06:47 GattaNegra: wait, what?!? KP49 allows uSD to work without backcover? O.o Nov 18 21:06:57 Pali: ^^^ any idea? Nov 18 21:07:31 maybe you touched cover sensor? Nov 18 21:07:47 or was in old kp some patch which allowed it? Nov 18 21:08:01 Pali: the lady has her hall sensor detached from the board (fallen off) Nov 18 21:08:16 I don;t see which patch could allow that Nov 18 21:08:23 do not know Nov 18 21:28:14 why is GattaNegra compiling the kernel? Nov 18 21:28:38 kerio: maybe she is curious ;) Nov 18 21:29:08 you don't take down your house to build a new one because you're curious Nov 18 21:29:13 :s Nov 18 21:29:27 no, wait, bad allegory Nov 18 21:29:33 you don't... mh Nov 18 21:29:38 perform brain surgery? Nov 18 21:29:41 that's too excessive Nov 18 21:31:02 I found http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=83643 Nov 18 21:31:09 so I guess I can just do it by talking to X Nov 18 21:31:10 ;-) Nov 18 21:31:49 patching kernel to disable back cover detection? Nov 18 21:32:00 yep Nov 18 21:32:10 it is possible and I read that some people already did it Nov 18 21:32:24 makes some sense, though not through boot parameters Nov 18 21:32:37 I'd bet on an sysfs Nov 18 21:32:48 s/an// Nov 18 21:32:48 freemangordon meant: I'd bet on sysfs Nov 18 21:32:53 if I remember only commenting gpio is needed in mmc structure... Nov 18 21:33:09 should be enough, yes Nov 18 21:33:42 but that will constantly disable detection, and this is not waht we want I guess Nov 18 21:34:22 a better solution would be to ignore it in isr if sysfs says "ignore it" Nov 18 21:36:55 * kerio would like to permanently ignore it very much Nov 18 21:38:22 kerio: what about the others and "the freedom of choice"? Nov 18 21:38:54 i dunno lol \_o_/ Nov 18 21:39:01 :D Nov 18 21:39:08 fwiw i think defaulting to ignore would be better Nov 18 21:39:18 so you can, say, boot with the cover open if you have swap on uSD Nov 18 21:39:42 although, to be fair, you can just put the sysfs configuration before mounting the swap Nov 18 21:40:26 it shouldn;t matter if you put it before or after, if it is realtime changeable Nov 18 21:40:40 ...you kinda have to do that before Nov 18 21:40:45 to be able to *use* the swap Nov 18 21:41:04 hmm, correct Nov 18 21:41:20 also Nov 18 21:41:26 what happens if you disable detection and then remove the uSD? Nov 18 21:41:30 does it get detected then? Nov 18 21:41:34 no Nov 18 21:41:45 so just I/O error? Nov 18 21:41:55 I guess it results in broken uSD/fs Nov 18 21:42:05 apart from that Nov 18 21:42:22 it's obviously a forcibly detached storage device Nov 18 21:42:22 if you have swap on it, you are screwed Nov 18 21:42:30 I KNOW Nov 18 21:42:34 on the linux side Nov 18 21:42:40 does it figure out that the uSD changed? Nov 18 21:43:03 because aiui right now there's nothing to do a clean unmount of the uSD when you remove the backcover anyway Nov 18 21:43:41 kerio: afaik that keeps uSD from being phisycally damaged Nov 18 21:44:00 ...u wot m8 Nov 18 21:44:17 what prevents the uSD from being physically damaged on my cheapo slide-in card reader? Nov 18 21:44:38 uSD got fcked up if you remove the power while doing IO Nov 18 21:44:53 damn, i really didn't know that Nov 18 21:45:02 kerio: n900 is not your cheapu uSD reader, neither is Nokia a Chinese manifacturer Nov 18 21:45:20 is that why it's almost always a slide-in thing? Nov 18 21:45:27 so you can cut off the data connection before the power Nov 18 21:48:15 maybe, but iirc I've seen report of damaged SD card because of power loss Nov 18 21:48:20 *reports Nov 18 22:47:57 freemangordon Nov 18 22:53:56 freemangordon, we actually think we found the right place to comment Nov 18 22:54:07 kerio Nov 18 22:55:02 the power kernel 49 and 50 work with some module that can be downloaded over the internet Nov 18 22:55:18 there is a good article in wiki how to compile own kernl Nov 18 22:55:54 and as my transistor for the sensor is broken , only patching soldering or no sdcard at all are the solutions Nov 18 22:57:06 DocScrutinizer05 said something that I understood like ' not safe to use unknown modules over old kernel" so I will make a try to solder the transistor first, then if it does not do I will try patching the kernel Nov 18 22:57:10 :D Nov 18 22:57:21 no sdcard for me at the moment Nov 18 22:59:28 GattaNegra_: you got me wrong, though the statement itself is not exactly incorrect Nov 18 23:00:52 Wizzup: MHD is supporting hildon hotkeys Nov 18 23:02:42 freemangordon: oh yes, sysfs entry is also fine. Though I'd prefer a module parameter Nov 18 23:04:40 DocScrutinizer05 did I? I can not access history now, but what you said about dark magic (was it?) made me paranoid Nov 18 23:05:45 I didn't get what you did anyway. You said you got patched kernel module from somebody with only 2 posts? Nov 18 23:06:01 huh Nov 18 23:06:05 a second Nov 18 23:06:05 sorry, IRC is often missing context, so a tad hard to follow Nov 18 23:06:15 english is not my 1st language Nov 18 23:10:00 GattaNegra_: I said KP49 is rather old and I don't know why it would allow access to uSD with open cover. Now I understand you downloaded a specially patched kernel module that disables the sensor. That's probably fine. Nov 18 23:10:38 I further conclude that this module is only available for KP49? Nov 18 23:10:45 i said i did but i am talking too much and what i say is unclear Nov 18 23:10:47 so here Nov 18 23:10:48 http://discussions.nokia.com/t5/Maemo-and-MeeGo-Devices/memory-card-and-n900/td-p/602757/page/2 Nov 18 23:10:52 there is the module Nov 18 23:11:03 the person has 2 posts only Nov 18 23:11:12 the module works Nov 18 23:11:35 anyhow i am not using it as it is from Internet.. potentially dangerous Nov 18 23:11:36 damn, blamk page here Nov 18 23:12:34 http://bit.ly/17GOHUf Nov 18 23:12:53 now that's typically Nokia, going up two ( minus /page/2 ) and then clicking on page2 gives me same URL, just this time with content Nov 18 23:13:03 DocScrutinizer05: MHD? Nov 18 23:13:20 modified hildon desktop, the HD used in CSSU btw Nov 18 23:13:27 ah, yes Nov 18 23:13:33 so where can I find info about this api? Nov 18 23:13:35 ~jrtools Nov 18 23:13:36 from memory, jrtools is http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools Nov 18 23:13:56 has a link to the MHD original docs page Nov 18 23:14:20 so now if i want to use the sdcard so much i will use that hack, but basically 32gb are pretty enough even for me Nov 18 23:14:55 i am reluctant to start compiling now, as i need to try soldering first Nov 18 23:15:21 >>I'll do some more kernel patch investigation work then.. and if I spot something, I might suggest it to Titan for incorporation into his overclocking uber kernel.. perhaps a system setting to assume the sensor is open / closed / automatic.. A little desktop widget might be handy too..<< Nov 18 23:15:21 i found people with the needed skills Nov 18 23:15:34 Titan been the original KP maintainer Nov 18 23:15:39 mhm Nov 18 23:15:41 cool Nov 18 23:15:46 :D Nov 18 23:15:51 i did not know that Nov 18 23:16:25 but i do not want overclocking, just sd card Nov 18 23:18:27 howie99 however is unknown to me Nov 18 23:19:25 freemangordon: http://discussions.nokia.com/t5/Maemo-and-MeeGo-Devices/memory-card-and-n900/m-p/1284833/highlight/true#M32100 Nov 18 23:20:02 KP does not overclock by default, it just offers *possibility* to overclock Nov 18 23:20:44 AHA THANKS Nov 18 23:20:50 oops. Nov 18 23:24:25 http://discussions.nokia.com/t5/Maemo-and-MeeGo-Devices/memory-card-and-n900/m-p/1504306/highlight/true#M35077 is an excellent example why you should be careful with info from the internet, *always* Nov 18 23:24:31 it's full of nonsense Nov 18 23:25:10 actually nothing but nonsense Nov 18 23:26:34 except the cleaning of the black area of the *optical* door tally Nov 18 23:27:14 which might actually make the cam dor IR sensor detect black as black again. No magnet involved though. and the whole sory completely unrelated to uSD card Nov 18 23:27:26 door* Nov 18 23:27:30 yep Nov 18 23:52:34 so I installed cssu-thumb from a fresh install (before installing power-kernel) Nov 18 23:52:42 so now I have this cssu kernel, but I would like to install KP Nov 18 23:52:50 the instructions on http://wiki.maemo.org/Kernel_Power#Installing_the_Stable_Kernel make no sense anymore Nov 18 23:53:01 since the settings do not pull in the power-kernel-flasher anymore Nov 18 23:53:09 I guess because the cssu kernel statisfies the dep? Nov 18 23:59:01 Wizzup: cssu-thumb kernel is a normal KP Nov 18 23:59:11 so installing the kp doesn't make sense? Nov 18 23:59:13 * Wizzup just did Nov 18 23:59:23 your problem ;-P Nov 18 23:59:25 we'll see how badly is messes up, I guess Nov 19 00:00:57 ask freemangordon if he just links to recent KP or actually copied it Nov 19 00:02:40 now I has kernel at least **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Nov 19 02:59:59 2013