**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Nov 20 02:59:58 2013 Nov 20 10:22:38 My n9 usb door has bitten the dust. Anyone know a good uk source for a replacement? Nov 20 11:57:21 ~zappa Nov 20 11:57:21 i heard zappa is THE guitar _GOD_ Nov 20 11:57:37 ~info Nov 20 11:57:47 ~botsnack Nov 20 11:57:48 aw, gee, vi__ Nov 20 11:58:00 ~assault infobot Nov 20 11:58:01 * infobot hits infobot in the mouth with an iron bar Nov 20 12:57:32 Hi everyone, i'm considering to buy a nokia n900, because i like programming and linux, are all the owners of the n900 gone to android or there's still a comunity using the n900? Nov 20 12:58:41 There is still a quite active N900 community. Nov 20 12:59:08 You can tell that by the fact that there are still posts to TMO every few minutes. Nov 20 12:59:44 There are *lots* of people, myself included, who would love to buy a brand new N900, if they could find one. Nov 20 13:00:08 Many people, again myself included, still use the N900 as their main day-to-day phone. Nov 20 13:02:05 but (except core apps) not much is happening in terms of app development, I'd say Nov 20 13:02:11 if you type "Nokia n900" on google you can see a brand new one for £86.94 english pounds, i was wondering if its safe to buy it or its a fake with some tamagotchi operating system Nov 20 13:02:49 seller is called ordinaryworld2009 Nov 20 13:02:49 99,6% Positive Feedback Nov 20 13:03:04 i'm really tempted because i think that's the phone for me Nov 20 13:03:36 *i mean on ebay, not on google Nov 20 13:04:34 Freud, It is a very fun phone. If you install Easy Debian on it, you have a full linux workstation in you pocket. Nov 20 13:41:37 why is the camera shutter blue? Nov 20 13:42:11 because blue plastic was cheap Nov 20 13:42:46 it's stylish Nov 20 13:42:54 i guess so Nov 20 13:43:03 it's shining a nice cobalt in the light Nov 20 13:47:40 The 'brand new' n900 is not brand new. Nov 20 13:47:45 It is reconditioned. Nov 20 13:47:54 I.e. old mobo in some knockoff case. Nov 20 13:48:16 prolly Nov 20 13:48:17 ik bought mine used Nov 20 13:48:35 Although, the odd brand new n900 does appear from time to time. Nov 20 13:48:43 and it's real, designed in finnland, no dexigned in china Nov 20 13:48:47 That is boxed with the screen plastic still attached. Nov 20 13:49:10 But these seem to be getting rarer and rarer. Nov 20 13:49:19 And they go for quite a bit. Nov 20 13:49:24 i need to find which one of my five bl5js i have that holds most juice Nov 20 13:49:34 Maybe 3x a second hand/reconditioned one. Nov 20 13:49:35 salvaged them out of c3s which are cheaaaaaap Nov 20 13:50:00 vi__: for a bit 2like new ones"? Nov 20 13:50:15 s/2/" Nov 20 13:50:33 doc I do not understand what you mean. Nov 20 13:50:43 aaah, i get it. Nov 20 13:50:59 you're vi, you understand vi commands Nov 20 13:51:10 had he used C-s, maybe you'd be confused Nov 20 13:51:14 I paid ~£240 for a brand spanking new, never been used one about 1 year ago. Nov 20 13:51:34 Far too much money for obsolete tech. Nov 20 13:51:46 $120 for mine Nov 20 13:51:49 yeah, steep but normal Nov 20 13:51:53 and shipping is included in that Nov 20 13:51:55 for NEw N900 Nov 20 13:52:01 It still had a screen foil on it. Literally NEVER out of the box. Nov 20 13:52:04 and since same country, no duties Nov 20 13:52:19 120$ for sure refurbished one Nov 20 13:52:26 or maybe they were ocd never take the plastic off Nov 20 13:52:38 maybe not, maybe old stock from a dumb shop? Nov 20 13:52:59 well, possible. Then you hit the jackpot Nov 20 13:53:28 or a time traveller with neo900s Nov 20 13:53:35 when you can find any such occasion, tell me for a free beer or two! Nov 20 13:53:41 hah. Nov 20 13:54:01 Unfortunately my best n900 is showing it's age. Nov 20 13:54:14 The vibration motor does not work some times. Nov 20 13:54:21 my control key is kinda hard to hit Nov 20 13:54:30 You can here it squeel but no vibe. Nov 20 13:54:37 my pile of spares diminished scaringly lately Nov 20 13:54:45 :| Nov 20 13:54:54 my sim tray still works, even after i accidentallyed tore it out Nov 20 13:54:56 still on my first one :D Nov 20 13:55:07 i snapped it in and its working now on edge Nov 20 13:55:13 mashina_: well that is something! Nov 20 13:55:14 jaska: me too Nov 20 13:55:16 i had an n800 for the longest time Nov 20 13:55:24 N800 was tougher. Nov 20 13:55:31 the hump made it nonportable Nov 20 13:55:39 but it was a tank Nov 20 13:55:45 hehe Nov 20 13:55:46 a slightly slow tank but a tank Nov 20 13:56:14 Hard to believe nokia invented the first modern smart phone now. Nov 20 13:56:21 if i went back in time i'd tell them to ignore the camera (vga is useless and nonsupported by lots of apps) and get rid of the hump Nov 20 13:56:35 can I sync my calendar with google calendar somehow? Nov 20 13:56:38 and it didnt even have telephoney! Nov 20 13:56:39 and they wouldnt listen.. being a corporation. Nov 20 13:56:45 deepy n900? Nov 20 13:56:48 yeah Nov 20 13:56:55 yes...maybe Nov 20 13:57:07 depends if google have depreciated the API yet. Nov 20 13:57:15 use syncevolution/ Nov 20 13:57:33 I think the gui MIGHT work/ Nov 20 13:57:34 i want to use owncloud but concerned if caldav is a bitch Nov 20 13:57:57 shame exchange is the most portable calendar sync api that works on everything :/ Nov 20 13:58:45 i need a 770 and N810 to complete my set Nov 20 13:59:04 maybe an n9 someday Nov 20 14:00:35 I have a bridge you could buy...? Nov 20 14:00:48 a? Nov 20 14:03:45 Do you think any non n900 enthusiasts still buy n900? Nov 20 14:11:46 DocScrutinizer51: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VuiBBX6aZA Nov 20 14:11:56 This is practically a zappa song. Nov 20 15:16:15 >>Unfortunately, this SME-music-content is not available in Germany because GEMA has not granted the respective music publishing rights.<< Nov 20 15:17:21 I definitely need to take care about getting a box located in china or Singapore or Taiwan or sth Nov 20 15:17:44 rights.. schmights.. Nov 20 15:17:50 Belarus, Russia, Turkey Nov 20 15:18:18 Iran ;-P Nov 20 15:18:57 (What's GEMA? Some bas****ds like czech OSA?) Nov 20 15:19:14 well, for China and Iran they probably need to have a special firewall exempt for my box, or I couldn't use it for anything ;-P Nov 20 15:19:27 sth like RIAA Nov 20 15:19:51 an official mafia Nov 20 15:20:23 So yes. As OSA & IFPI in czechia.. Nov 20 17:10:57 vi__: had the same issue, I manually activated the vibration on different levels for some time and now it works again Nov 20 17:11:26 it's available through some /proc or /sys LED control file Nov 20 18:16:30 Gatta_Negra: according to http://maemo.cloud-7.de/Gallery-N900-exploded/platine_01.jpeg you need to short the upper large almost square pad with the lower right small pad - the one on opposite side of the small brown capacitor next to the sensor direction uSD. Or to any other GND connection nearby, e.g. "outer" end of that capacitor, or a small patch on the GND plane around the huge square pad where you scratch away the green varnish Nov 20 18:16:44 aha! Nov 20 18:17:27 if soldering does not work i will try that Nov 20 18:17:30 thank you!!! Nov 20 18:17:31 the component probably is a "HED55XXU12" Nov 20 18:18:24 available on internet form HK etc, in MOQ of thousands Nov 20 18:18:38 but no datasheets available Nov 20 18:20:28 mhm we were searching datasheet yesterday Nov 20 18:20:30 no luck Nov 20 18:20:40 btw the sensor (HED55XXU12) might be sensitive only to one of the magnetic poles of the magnet - either S or N - so rotation of the magnet by 180° so front is down and bottom up might cause the sensor to malfunction Nov 20 18:51:04 DocScrutinizer05: just use proxmate, maybe Nov 20 18:51:11 for youtube videos Nov 20 18:51:55 huh? Nov 20 18:52:00 aah Nov 20 18:57:05 I have a bad feeling with proxmate since they don't tell where is the proxy they use, and what is their business model Nov 20 18:57:42 non-obvious business model == YOU are the good that's making their money Nov 20 18:59:37 i dunno, http://proxmate.dave.cx/support/ Nov 20 18:59:42 apparently they take donations Nov 20 19:08:31 just a tiny correction - "However, we promise do to everything (including very open communication) to finish the project." to do* :) Nov 20 19:12:13 dos1: ^^^^ Nov 20 19:12:46 Sysaxed`: on neo900 or goldelico? Nov 20 19:14:30 DocScrutinizer05: neo900 Nov 20 19:14:48 thanks, so dos1 ^^^^ Nov 20 19:14:53 http://neo900.org/faq#fail Nov 20 19:16:57 kerio: fair enough Nov 20 19:17:25 actually pretty cool Nov 20 19:17:55 this page made me like them **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Nov 21 02:59:59 2013