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Dec 14 03:24:34 <DocScrutinizer05> sixwheeledbeast: (.deb) \o/
Dec 14 09:23:43 <sixwheeledbeast> DocScrutinizer05: yes, http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=92025
Dec 14 09:26:08 <DocScrutinizer05> sixwheeledbeast: hell, no symlink from (/usr)/bin to opt/*/* ?
Dec 14 09:26:57 <sixwheeledbeast> Didn't think it was worth it?
Dec 14 09:27:01 <DocScrutinizer05> on unix it's mandatory for at least cmdline programs to live in $PATH
Dec 14 09:28:38 <DocScrutinizer05> you may get away with weird hidden locations for binaries when they get called e.g. from a .desktop or a menu-entry in startmenu
Dec 14 09:28:54 <sixwheeledbeast> ok I'll have a look I suppose i can add it to the postinst script, I was mainly checking I can upload file to autobuilder so it was rushed. 
Dec 14 09:31:41 <DocScrutinizer05> thanks! :-)
Dec 14 09:33:27 <SAiF> hi,
Dec 14 09:35:26 <DocScrutinizer05> sixwheeledbeast: ever pressed [TAB][TAB] in shell?
Dec 14 09:35:51 <DocScrutinizer05> do it and you'll understand why binaries need to live in $PATH ;-)
Dec 14 09:35:53 <sixwheeledbeast> I suppose I should give it a icon. No I haven't actually
Dec 14 09:37:34 <sixwheeledbeast> icon for the repo I mean.
Dec 14 09:37:39 <sixwheeledbeast> ~pkg
Dec 14 09:37:39 <infobot> well, pkg is http://maemo.org/packages/
Dec 14 09:37:53 <DocScrutinizer05> [notice] VOTING BOOTH STILL OPEN! VOTE IF YOU DIDN'T ALREADY!
Dec 14 09:53:58 <sixwheeledbeast> Actually what I am on about, OFC I have [TAB] [TAB] in terminal :facepalm:
Dec 14 09:59:19 <SAiF> Doc, cant vote.
Dec 14 09:59:31 <SAiF> cannot get token.
Dec 14 10:00:00 <SAiF> The e-mail address and username you gave do not match an existing voter, or you have already voted.
Dec 14 10:00:23 <SAiF> I think, not everyone can vote..
Dec 14 10:01:44 <SAiF> is there any requirement to become a voter..? Docsrutinizer05
Dec 14 10:10:16 <sixwheeledbeast> an account and karma
Dec 14 10:11:30 <sixwheeledbeast> account == maemo.org account NOT talk.maemo.org
Dec 14 10:12:59 <sixwheeledbeast> http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council/Election_process
Dec 14 10:15:13 <SAiF> Thanks
Dec 14 10:16:54 <hardy> hello
Dec 14 10:25:23 <sixwheeledbeast> DocScrutinizer05: done, new version is in queue.
Dec 14 10:25:29 <DocScrutinizer05> SAiF: you can request a token mail when you haven't got yours (maybe lost it in spamfilter)
Dec 14 10:25:42 <DocScrutinizer05> sixwheeledbeast: already thanked
Dec 14 10:26:01 <sixwheeledbeast> :)
Dec 14 10:26:11 <SAiF> Not bothering to vote. as I dont have any of ther prerequisites.
Dec 14 10:26:32 <sixwheeledbeast> Honoured, you don't get one of them often :P
Dec 14 10:33:43 <DocScrutinizer05> SAiF: sorry, didn't notice you already quoted the input fields for requesting token-mail
Dec 14 10:34:42 <SAiF> np
Dec 14 11:07:26 <sixwheeledbeast> Does anybody know if there is an upload limit for packages to autobuilder? This is the only thing I can think of as to why my package is rejected.
Dec 14 11:31:05 <DocScrutinizer05> no
Dec 14 11:31:33 <DocScrutinizer05> unless we recently created some
Dec 14 11:31:39 <DocScrutinizer05> ;-P
Dec 14 11:33:01 <DocScrutinizer05> what do you mean by "rejected"?
Dec 14 11:34:37 <DocScrutinizer05> http://maemo.org/packages/repository/latest/fremantle_extras-devel_free_armel/all/ looks pretty 'normal'
Dec 14 11:35:13 <DocScrutinizer05> http://maemo.org/packages/repository/builds/fremantle_extras-devel_free_source/all/
Dec 14 11:35:39 <DocScrutinizer05> http://maemo.org/packages/view/zzztop/
Dec 14 11:36:20 <DocScrutinizer05> sixwheeledbeast: can't see anything fishy
Dec 14 11:37:29 <sixwheeledbeast> DocScrutinizer05: It doesn't even upload to the repo fails before then
Dec 14 11:37:42 <DocScrutinizer05> huh?
Dec 14 11:38:21 <sixwheeledbeast> <<(14/12/13 00:09:12) sixwheeledbeast: ok so I still can't upload my package to the autobuilder. NFC why, zzztop works but not my Qt one. It's doesn't even get as far as loading to the queue, so no real debugging ouput.>>
Dec 14 11:39:01 <sixwheeledbeast> <<(23:39:14) sixwheeledbeast: Mhmm, having issue uploading package to builder "File upload error. (tar file) Please try to upload your packages again!" Builds and installs fine locally.>>
Dec 14 11:39:07 <DocScrutinizer05> so how does that relate to any [2013-12-14 12:07:26] <sixwheeledbeast> Does anybody know if there is an upload limit for packages to autobuilder?  ?
Dec 14 11:39:49 <sixwheeledbeast>  all the same package/problem.
Dec 14 11:40:06 <DocScrutinizer05> ping freemangordon - it's related to qt packages afaik
Dec 14 11:40:52 <sixwheeledbeast> :nod: ^^^fmg?
Dec 14 11:42:10 <DocScrutinizer05> or merlin_1991 or warfare or xes
Dec 14 11:46:30 <freemangordon> sixwheeledbeast: did you scp/dput it or did you use extras assistant?
Dec 14 11:47:09 <sixwheeledbeast> assistant I have never been able to get scp working
Dec 14 11:47:31 <freemangordon> assistant have upload time limit afaik
Dec 14 11:47:57 <freemangordon> sixwheeledbeast: what package is that, how's qt related?
Dec 14 11:48:39 <freemangordon> sixwheeledbeast: hmm, what is the problem with scp?
Dec 14 11:49:38 <sixwheeledbeast> this is the package I am having trouble with http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=92014, scp issue is I have never been able to get the rsa key to work IIRC
Dec 14 11:50:08 <sixwheeledbeast> upload time limit, that will be it.
Dec 14 11:50:32 <freemangordon> sixwheeledbeast: try ssh-add ;)
Dec 14 11:50:42 <freemangordon> and your key should start working
Dec 14 11:51:08 <freemangordon> assuming you've followed ssh key instructions on garage
Dec 14 12:01:48 <DocScrutinizer05> you must make sure the ssh key has no linebreaks and iirc also no trailing user@machine 
Dec 14 12:02:25 <DocScrutinizer05> and sync of key to other VM will take a day or so, if it works at all
Dec 14 12:03:07 <DocScrutinizer05> moin dos1
Dec 14 12:08:17 <sixwheeledbeast> found the thread from when I last tried http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=59933, will try again to setup scp
Dec 14 12:08:41 <sixwheeledbeast> it will be this upload time limit on assistant
Dec 14 12:23:37 <sixwheeledbeast> freemangordon: any ideas "this is a restricted account" https://privatepaste.com/9586e2cfa9
Dec 14 13:43:55 <sixwheeledbeast> or could just increase the upload time limit, if possible :)
Dec 14 15:07:53 <DocScrutinizer05> I don't know of any time limit
Dec 14 15:09:01 <DocScrutinizer05> except of course for the http session of upload assistant, after logging in
Dec 14 15:11:24 * DocScrutinizer05 wonders if /var/www/extras-devel/incoming-builder/fremantle/perl is actually the right path to upload sth via scp, particularly the /perl part
Dec 14 15:23:25 <DocScrutinizer05> I can tell that there's no dir like /var/www/extras-devel/incoming-builder/fremantle/perl/ on drop.m.o
Dec 14 15:24:02 <DocScrutinizer05> and trying to copy 3 local files to one target *file* /var/www/extras-devel/incoming-builder/fremantle/perl makes no sense aiui
Dec 14 15:25:20 <DocScrutinizer05> ooh, and "this is a restricted account" maybe means that the command isn't allowed by the login "shell" script
Dec 14 15:25:43 <DocScrutinizer05> I had to check the login script
Dec 14 15:43:24 <DocScrutinizer05> OHNOES, do we have that friggin NTFS "optimization" again, since last security update?
Dec 14 15:43:33 <DocScrutinizer05> warfare: ^^^
Dec 14 16:33:02 <kerio> ?
Dec 14 16:38:46 <DocScrutinizer05> kerio: ?
Dec 14 16:38:59 <kerio> which ntfs optimization?
Dec 14 17:06:59 <warfare> s/ntfs/nfs/
Dec 14 17:16:01 <DocScrutinizer05> kerio: http://man.he.net/man8/mountd  manage-gids
Dec 14 17:16:08 <kerio> oic
Dec 14 17:16:25 <kerio> stupid nfs
Dec 14 17:16:37 <DocScrutinizer05> kinda, yeah
Dec 14 17:17:30 <kerio> which other protocols exist tho?
Dec 14 17:17:32 <kerio> smb?
Dec 14 17:17:54 <DocScrutinizer05> but my problem been that ls doesn't know about the remote etc/groups file, no matter what manage-gids is set to
Dec 14 17:19:31 <DocScrutinizer05> ideally we'd keep numiric user/group IDs in sync on all VMs
Dec 15 00:23:53 <DocScrutinizer05> http://maemo.org/vote/results.php?election_id=35
Dec 15 00:28:31 <GeneralAntilles> I totally forgot to vote.
Dec 15 00:28:32 <GeneralAntilles> Go me.
Dec 15 00:49:56 <M4rtinK> well, I actually remembered at about 23:50
Dec 15 00:50:28 <M4rtinK> after a few previous alarms I've set sounded when I was too busy to vote
Dec 15 01:11:52 <Kabouik_> Hey there
Dec 15 01:12:20 <Kabouik_> I'm trying to install CSSU Thumb using the wiki, but I got a "no handler configured  x-install-instruction (.install)" error when clicking on the "stable" link with Maemo
Dec 15 01:12:27 <Kabouik_> With MicroB sorry
Dec 15 01:12:49 <Kabouik_> What should I do so that MicroB properly triggers the application manager?
Dec 15 01:27:43 <amonk> Is there a way to determine the cellular frequency currently in use on the Nokia N900?
Dec 15 01:39:40 <Ori_> hi guys, i own a n900, im new to it, i just need to find a way to make my phone beep when i receive a facebook notification, facebook widget is nice but i didnt hear any beep, i know its random but just wondering if anyone knows
Dec 15 01:51:00 <nox-> i think its somewhere in settings, notify on im messages... (or maybe that was only for the led?)
Dec 15 01:52:22 <Ori_> when i touch the settings icon it just lets me see my login info
Dec 15 02:02:45 <nox-> i mean the n900 settings not the fb ones
Dec 15 02:03:14 <nox-> (unless fb doesnt count as im)
Dec 15 02:10:26 <DocScrutinizer05> Kabouik_: strange. please ask in #maemo-ssu
Dec 15 02:11:41 <Kabouik_> DocScrutinizer05 thanks. Apparently I already had enabled CSSU testing repositories earlier, maybe that was the issue. Actually I have not used my N900 in several years, I don't remember what is installed and which tweaks I applied
Dec 15 02:11:57 <Ori_> nox i think it was only for the led
Dec 15 02:12:00 <Kabouik_> But it appears apt-get is totally messed up, and apt-get -f install won't solve it, so...
Dec 15 02:12:32 <DocScrutinizer05> Kabouik_: then I suggest full of PR1.3.1
Dec 15 02:12:40 <DocScrutinizer05> prior to installing CSSU
Dec 15 02:13:02 <nox-> Ori_, hm ok
Dec 15 02:13:03 <Kabouik_> I have it already, and clean install totally depresses me
Dec 15 02:13:47 <DocScrutinizer05> well, we can't give support for installing CSSU on random messed up system
Dec 15 02:13:52 <Kabouik_> I will take so long to install all apps I had, reformat partitions, bleeding edge drivers, QBW widget to totally reconfigure... I know I won't do it unfortunately
Dec 15 02:13:58 <Kabouik_> Yes I know, not asking
Dec 15 02:14:11 <Kabouik_> Just disappointed to discover that the system seems messed up
Dec 15 02:16:50 <Kabouik_> I'll probably do a fresh install someday, but my main concern is I totally forgot how I set up my multiboots. Don't remember if it is uboot, multiboot, or anything, compatible kernels, and I'm afraid I will lose everything
Dec 15 02:29:19 <DocScrutinizer05> ~maemo-multiboot
Dec 15 02:29:20 <infobot> somebody said maemo-multiboot was deprecated, and a horrible hack.  PROBLEMS WITH NITDROID/MULTIBOOT? reflash rootfs&kernel aka COMBINED
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