**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Dec 22 03:00:00 2013 Dec 22 04:49:38 is there any way to get 'beep' command to work? If I run it as user it says 'beep: can't open console' and if I run it under root there is no error but it does not make any sound Dec 22 05:05:01 oh come on Dec 22 05:05:19 there is espeak for text-to-speech but no beeper? Dec 22 05:18:24 I hope I did not miss the answer Dec 22 05:20:53 just $espeak "beeb beep beep" Dec 22 05:28:46 ... Dec 22 05:28:52 umm :\ Dec 22 05:29:11 espeak e Dec 22 05:30:36 oh! Here's the beep Dec 22 05:30:42 espeak 'de' Dec 22 05:36:14 Sysaxed: doesn't appear to be... i also needed it for irssi.. no luck Dec 22 05:36:36 Sicelo: yeah :\ Dec 22 05:37:52 * Sicelo is planning to recompile irssi with perl support, after which one could get audible notifications using a script of some sort Dec 22 05:39:34 Sicelo: a script of some sort? Dec 22 05:39:36 like what? Dec 22 05:42:22 i have seen 'beep.pl' and my_beep.pl' on irssi's site... seems that would 'intercept' beep requests and do some command you specify instead Dec 22 05:42:48 alas, n900's irssi doesn't do scripts ootb Dec 22 05:43:01 xchat has ssl issues :( Dec 22 05:43:34 and i did not like all the other available IRC clients. Dec 22 05:44:53 Sicelo: okay-okay, lets say you did that Dec 22 05:45:03 how could you produce a beep sound anyway? Dec 22 05:45:18 you can play an audio file, yeah, but besides that? Dec 22 05:45:30 I want to control frequency Dec 22 05:45:39 lol, no beep :p Dec 22 08:41:41 humm Dec 22 09:08:44 ~flash Dec 22 09:08:45 somebody said maemo-flashing was http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware Dec 22 10:20:47 * sixwheeledbeast goes looking in /usr/share Dec 22 10:31:01 Oh seems you can't do an alias with messybox, hmm, nvm Dec 22 12:27:45 sixwheeledbeast: playsound path/to/beep.wav Dec 22 12:29:10 I thought the idea was to get the "beep" command to work? Dec 22 12:48:36 sixwheeledbeast: the beep command uses console's ISA-PC specific access to PC speaker via some gate A4711. N900 doesn't have a PC speaker nor that gate Dec 22 12:49:36 or maybe it's not a gate but a IO addr Dec 22 12:50:15 anyway N900 has no such digital beeper speaker, not even emulated in audiomixer chip Dec 22 12:51:19 there's no other way but ALSA basically (or methods that exploit the ALSA soundcrads), to play a beep sound Dec 22 12:51:37 cards, even Dec 22 12:53:00 to be more specific, the beep is a special ioctl command in console, and console translates that into spftware "playback" a certain square wave pattern to a GPIO Dec 22 13:01:39 http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/1974/how-do-i-make-my-pc-speaker-beep >>On linux, there is a fourth badass method for beeping: unload the pcspkr module, load the snd-pcsp, and you now have a alsa soundcard that uses old-school tricks to actually feed digital sound to your internal speaker.<< Dec 22 13:05:29 btw you *could* use sox as a extreme overkill replacement for beep binary Dec 22 13:06:25 unlike beep sox will allow to define the *audio* device to use, to playback the beep sound. Apart from that is also has freq and duration afaik Dec 22 13:07:00 sox is cool Dec 22 13:09:49 For example, the following produces a 3 second, 48kHz, audio file containing a sine-wave swept from 300 to 3300 Hz: Dec 22 13:09:50 sox -n output.wav synth 3 sine 300-3300 Dec 22 13:10:56 Frequencies can also be given in `scientific' note notation, or, by prefixing a `%' character, as a number of semitones relative to `middle A' (440 Hz). For example, the Dec 22 13:10:57 following could be used to help tune a guitar's low `E' string: Dec 22 13:10:59 play -n synth 4 pluck %-29 Dec 22 13:11:09 ((play is an alias for sox)) Dec 22 13:11:58 or with a (Bourne shell) loop, the whole guitar: Dec 22 13:11:59 for n in E2 A2 D3 G3 B3 E4; do Dec 22 13:12:01 play -n synth 4 pluck $n repeat 2; done Dec 22 13:15:22 hmm, sox I'll look at that. I don't know what application Sysaxed was to use "beep" for. Dec 22 13:15:45 however note that ALL these methods will NOT playback sound in your remote attached ssh session, but always on the machine you're logged into Dec 22 13:16:33 audio is local to the machine the command gets executed on Dec 22 13:16:40 not local to the terminal Dec 22 13:17:05 though trivial, it's a often forgotten detail Dec 22 13:18:18 I was just reading that on your link above Dec 22 13:18:26 when you want to make irssi in your ssh session play a beep locally on your remote xterm, then you need to teach *xterm* to play some sound on ^G Dec 22 13:20:08 I don't know of any maemo xterm or whatever terminal prog that supports this Dec 22 13:20:22 it's probably easier to do that with a wrapper program, fwiw Dec 22 13:20:46 also, am i the only one who wants his electronic devices to be completely silent? Dec 22 13:21:09 you mean sth like `beepwrapper ssh me@box irssi` ? Dec 22 13:21:15 sure, why not Dec 22 13:21:20 sure, feasible Dec 22 13:23:03 silent? I like notifications to be audible but subtle. Dec 22 13:23:08 beepwraper just had to filter for ^G and pipe through all other chars Dec 22 13:24:11 nice headache-inducing exercise to write such wrapper in shellscript Dec 22 13:24:51 particularly since you don't want any buffers to delay output of each single char that comes in Dec 22 13:25:02 * DocScrutinizer05 waves after infobot Dec 22 13:27:22 * DocScrutinizer05 waves to greet infobot Dec 22 13:27:44 huh? Dec 22 13:27:45 DocScrutinizer: infobot joined! Dec 22 13:27:48 infobot: hi! Dec 22 13:27:50 hi Dec 22 13:27:51 :3 Dec 22 13:27:57 infobot: <3 Dec 22 13:27:59 from memory, <3 is love Dec 22 13:27:59 ~PING Dec 22 13:28:00 ~pong Dec 22 13:28:04 it is! Dec 22 13:28:09 ~+uptime Dec 22 13:28:11 - Uptime for purl - Dec 22 13:28:12 Now: 1m 26s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux Dec 22 13:28:12 1: 59d 8h 41m 19s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux, ended Sun Nov 14 18:39:57 2010 Dec 22 13:28:12 2: 57d 3h 9m 23s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux, ended Fri Jun 26 20:39:27 2009 Dec 22 13:28:13 3: 36d 20h 47m 14s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux, ended Tue Aug 4 17:38:59 2009 Dec 22 13:28:50 infobot in xmas mood? Dec 22 13:29:27 ~xmas Dec 22 13:29:28 'Twas the night before christmas, and all through the shack, not a creature was stirring, 'cept the skript kid, learning to hack. The stockings were hung by the chimney with care, as he sat at his computer cracking aware. The pornos were stacked all over his room, he knew nothing of his impending doom. Dec 22 13:31:05 ~factinfo xmas Dec 22 13:31:05 xmas -- created by syz at Wed Jan 10 00:02:23 2001 (4729 days); it has been requested 5 times, last by sixwheeledbeast, 1m 38s ago. Dec 22 13:31:34 thought as much, sounded old by diction Dec 22 13:31:40 ;-P Dec 22 13:33:48 ~factinfo christmas Dec 22 13:33:49 error: you do not have enough flags for that. (o required) Dec 22 13:33:51 christmas -- last modified at Sun Dec 29 12:44:17 2002 by Niffum!niffum@pobax3-224.dialup.optusnet.com.au; it has been requested 12 times, last by sixwheeledbeast, 27s ago. Dec 22 13:34:07 today this sounds like "... The socks at the chimney waited for crap, as he sat at his box and cracking an app. All the pr0n was scattered alover the room..." Dec 22 13:34:34 :D Dec 22 13:34:40 :P Dec 22 13:36:05 * DocScrutinizer05 tries hard to come up with a non-lame joke about "doom" Dec 22 13:36:37 ~wiki doom2 Dec 22 13:36:42 At http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DOOM2 (URL), Wikipedia explains: "{{Italic title}} {{Infobox VG |title = Doom II: Hell on Earth |image = |caption = The cover artwork for "Doom II: Hell on Earth", painted by fantasy artist Gerald Brom, depicts the "Doom" space marine firing a double-barreled shotgun at a Cyberdemon. |developer = id SoftwareNerve Software (XBLA) |publisher = GT Interactive (DOS)Activision (Game Boy Advance)Bethesda Softworks (Xbox Live ... Dec 22 13:37:00 WTF? Dec 22 13:37:17 aaah cover artwork Dec 22 13:41:20 moin dos1 Dec 22 15:17:52 * DocScrutinizer05 idly wonders if it's longer daylight than yesterday. Seems like :-) Dec 22 15:19:27 Isn't the longest day somewhere around 24? Dec 22 15:19:30 er, night Dec 22 15:24:20 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_solstice Dec 22 15:26:18 >>In the UK, the precise time of the solstice will be 5.11pm on Saturday December 21st 2013.<< Dec 22 15:26:23 hmm, my sister's device has /home fs screwed up, should I flass eMMC as well? Dec 22 15:26:32 flash* Dec 22 15:26:39 so definitely today is longer than yesterday Dec 22 15:26:42 DocScrutinizer05: ^^^ Dec 22 15:26:58 freemangordon: yes Dec 22 15:27:03 thanks Dec 22 15:27:09 ~flashing Dec 22 15:27:10 maemo-flashing is probably http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware Dec 22 15:29:42 anybody ever heard of netcomponents.com ? Dec 22 17:08:22 does anybody know why does 'espeak' work but 'flite' does not? Dec 22 17:14:52 flite -t Test -o - | play-sound - Dec 22 17:14:54 huh... Dec 22 17:17:21 noooooooo!!! Dec 22 17:17:38 flite version is too old, there's no way to choose any other voice Dec 22 17:27:54 okay, and the only dependency is dpkg >= 1.15.4 Dec 22 17:28:21 and maemo has 1.14.25 Dec 22 17:32:59 flite-1.3-release October 2005 Dec 22 17:33:02 seriously... Dec 22 17:46:35 how can I install build-essential? says that it has no installation candidate Dec 22 17:47:06 and I have extras and extras-devel repos Dec 22 17:47:12 is there anything else that I'm missing? Dec 22 17:49:49 I think you sadly can't just install build-essentials, but must install the so called scratchbox-environment. Dec 22 17:50:22 There are some tutorials out there how to do this on the n900 itself. Dec 22 17:56:59 hm, that's weird Dec 22 17:57:14 actually I remember having build-essential installed on my phone some years ago Dec 22 17:57:20 I'm not sure how I did that... Dec 22 17:58:01 maybe within debian chroot ? Dec 22 17:58:51 hm, I dont' know Dec 22 17:59:04 can't I just add sdk repo and pull build-essential from it? Dec 22 18:00:22 wait, I have build-essential on N900 right now Dec 22 18:00:41 Sysaxed, yeah, IIRC, you absolutely can Dec 22 18:00:54 int_ua: so that's how you did that? Dec 22 18:00:55 just watch out for rootfs space Dec 22 18:01:03 IIRC, yes Dec 22 18:01:04 yeah. Dec 22 18:02:52 okay, gonna try it out a bit later Dec 22 18:02:54 have to go now Dec 22 18:02:58 thank you guys Dec 22 18:03:15 I'm trying to use valgrind to check ssh-status widget for memory leaks and I don't yet understand how to do it. Do I have to run valgrind on the whole hilgon-status-menu? Dec 22 18:03:36 Sysaxed, you are welcome :) Dec 22 18:04:10 status menu plugins and hildon-destkop widgets are libraries that are loaded into the processes Dec 22 18:04:20 so yeah you do have to run the whole status menu in valgrind Dec 22 18:06:34 world's slowest status menu Dec 22 18:54:26 Sysaxed: you don't want nor can install all that's needed for building real stuff (not "hello world") in / Dec 22 18:55:31 that's why usually that stuff gets installed in a easydev chroot when for some strange reason somebody thinks it's inevitable for her/him to build on target platform Dec 22 19:02:41 DocScrutinizer05, what easydev chroot? Dec 22 19:03:30 int_ua: BTW I have build newer valgring, the stock one doesn;t play nicely with thumb/neon instructions Dec 22 19:03:47 I can provide it if you need it Dec 22 19:04:03 freemangordon, thanks, right now I'm in VM :) Dec 22 19:04:07 (maybe will upload it to repos some day) Dec 22 19:04:11 ok Dec 22 19:06:29 ooops, easydeb Dec 22 19:06:40 typo, sorry Dec 22 19:07:30 http://maemo.org/packages/view/easy-deb-chroot/ Dec 22 19:07:53 freemangordon, I wanted to build on the device once, but dev files are just too big. But still looking forward to see a newer version in repos. Appreciate this :) Dec 22 19:08:22 int_ua: hmm, you can build in SB and run valgrind on the device itself Dec 22 19:08:40 hmm Dec 22 19:08:43 I mean... you only need -dbg packages installed Dec 22 19:09:13 but you can easy symlink /usr/lib/debug to a directory on the uSD card and avoid rottfs fill issues Dec 22 19:09:34 *rootfs full Dec 22 19:10:14 I don;t think running valgrind in SB against hildon-desktop or hildon-home makes much of a sense Dec 22 19:10:24 though... Dec 22 19:11:04 maybe I am wrong :) Dec 22 19:15:03 MASS PANIC, iOS 7 JAILBREAK Dec 22 19:20:20 ampharos, not here. Dec 22 19:20:50 doesn't matter there's riots on the streets and everyone's out for blood thanks to the chinese Dec 22 19:28:14 hello Dec 22 19:28:32 is it me or TMO is flooded with Jolla and Sailfish :) Dec 22 19:28:51 it is, so what? Dec 22 19:29:41 it was flooded with n9 by the time it went out Dec 22 19:36:53 freemangrdon: true Dec 22 19:37:02 flooded tmo doesn't mean anything Dec 22 19:37:17 but not much left of N900 Dec 22 19:37:28 except that I maybe should bump the neo900 thread ;-P Dec 22 19:37:32 I'm a daily lurker and not much to read anymore Dec 22 19:37:37 Yes Dec 22 19:37:37 not much left? Dec 22 19:37:44 this is the thread that needs to be bumped Dec 22 19:37:45 does tmo auto-clean Dec 22 19:37:47 ? Dec 22 19:38:07 well not much about N900 - new things I mean Dec 22 19:38:32 I don't think a single post related to N900 vanished due to the flooding Dec 22 19:39:55 so what's the damage done? when you say "not much left" this implies there's something missing Dec 22 19:40:39 except n900 related threads on high ranks in "new posts" I can't see anything missing Dec 22 19:41:01 DocScrutinizer05: nah my bad - not native and not perfect with English - you are right Dec 22 19:41:22 but you get my point I ope ;) Dec 22 19:41:26 hope even Dec 22 19:41:58 I don't think the activity in N900 related topics gone down since sailfish "flood" Dec 22 19:42:17 ~seen luf Dec 22 19:42:18 luf <~luf@80.188.29.62> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo-ssu, 13d 8h 50m 17s ago, saying: 'Because there is silence :D'. Dec 22 19:42:32 maybe it's not as easy to see since it gets covered by more activity in sailfish related posts Dec 22 19:44:10 that it was I emant in the biginning Dec 22 19:44:35 kerio: infobot has an cross-chan ciew of ~seen. it's not needed to post it in multiple channels Dec 22 19:44:46 i figured after i typed that Dec 22 20:15:24 view even **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Dec 23 02:59:58 2013