**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Jan 04 02:59:58 2014 Jan 04 05:21:46 seems he's pretty ignorant about what's electricity and how it works Jan 04 05:22:59 the battery isn't dangerous, at least compared to the vacuum cleaner... and it shorting the battery to the spring would cause problems, those would have happened already before i noticed the plastic was missing Jan 04 05:24:15 plus i would assume the spring simply has no electric connection to anything Jan 04 05:27:01 plus, if isolation by the plastic was critcal to safety, nokia should have used better glue... AND isolated the spring... else, just sue them into oblivion if it causes damage... Jan 04 08:37:31 plus a lot of untenable assumptions Jan 04 08:39:08 shall we put "but he jad the right of way" on your epitaph? Jan 04 08:39:23 s/j/h/ Jan 04 08:39:23 DocScrutinizer05 meant: shall we put "but he had the right of way" on your epitaph? Jan 04 10:21:40 welcome back, gals 'n guys Jan 04 10:22:04 and byebye Jan 04 10:22:50 >>("Konversation terminated!").<< well, not really Jan 04 10:30:48 where can I configure user agent of microB? Jan 04 10:31:12 or any way in general to prevent sites from redirecting me to silly mobile versions unless I go there myself Jan 04 10:41:18 DocScrutinizer: infobot joined! Jan 04 10:45:39 er Jan 04 10:46:08 until just now, I was unaware that shift+space switches from landscape/portrait/landscape in xterm Jan 04 10:46:12 but 2 issues Jan 04 10:46:19 1: it still writes a space Jan 04 10:46:46 2: it completely ignore the fact that I locked orientation, and even ignores the fact that my keyboard is out Jan 04 11:00:02 errwut? Jan 04 11:00:04 FIQ: how the heck would you press shift-space when kbd is slide-in? ;-P Jan 04 11:00:05 and I never knew about that, and doubt it somewhat Jan 04 11:00:07 standard old xterm doesn't do any such stuff Jan 04 11:00:08 not even CSSU-T7.2 does Jan 04 11:00:10 I know microB had a "secret" hotkey-combo to allow portrait and text-wrapping Jan 04 11:00:11 never heard about similar stuff in xterm, it would kinda be silly and mad Jan 04 11:51:30 Is there something which has the function of https, but works via a web of trust? Jan 04 12:07:17 my xtrem doesnt change orientation Jan 04 12:07:24 errr, like httpgp? Jan 04 12:09:20 (xterm orientation) I guess FIQ's short of the battery burned away the mounting of xterm screen, now it dangles and when you press a few keys on kbd it comes completely loose and rotates ;-) Jan 04 12:10:48 :) Jan 04 12:14:38 on a less joking note, I probably should check CSSU changelogs to learn if or if not such xterm orientation rotation function came since CSSU-T7.2 Jan 04 12:15:57 I'd not be too surprised when somebody thought it would be a cute idea to hardcode a special kbd shortcut into xterm - sth you obviously want to avoid by all means, for a *shell* Jan 04 12:18:06 all key shortcuts are per default available to map them to arbitrary functions in the shell. *IF* any shortcuts are working on xterm level before even reaching the shell, then they frequently are SHIFT+CTRL+ Jan 04 12:18:40 never something ordinary like shift+space :-o Jan 04 12:20:24 heck, my xchat uses shift+space for nick completion. I'd expect that to work as well for irssi in a shell in xterm, if I ever were to use irssi Jan 04 12:39:48 How do I upgrade to a newer CSSU when I clicked on ignore when it was offered? (I didn't but functionally, that's what happened) Jan 04 12:40:40 Shift+Space does nothing here. I doubt it should be doing that. Jan 04 12:41:42 jdoles: in HAM click update. Then if nothing try Refresh Jan 04 12:43:15 sixwheeledbeast: thanks Jan 04 12:44:57 it will remind you again every 24 hours if you haven't disabled that manually. Jan 04 12:47:33 shift space is defined in xbindkeys if easy debian installed Jan 04 13:11:01 FIQ: how the heck would you press shift-space when kbd is slide-in? ;-P Jan 04 13:11:51 the slide sensor only detects when the keyboard is 100% out... you can even type on it in portrait mode if you just leave it at 90% (top row is a bit hard to reach) Jan 04 13:34:01 r00t^home: and that's a valid usecase and justification for shift-space to rotate xterm? Jan 04 13:39:09 anyone else experiencing trouble pushing commits to vcs.maemo.org? Jan 04 13:51:38 trouble? Jan 04 13:56:05 DocScrutinizer05: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/9cc0dca0/ Jan 04 13:56:43 iDont: did you try to pull before push? Jan 04 13:56:51 git pull --rebase that is Jan 04 13:58:01 I tried recloning the repo from vcs.maemo.org, reapply my commit, and push. Same error. Jan 04 13:58:10 I'll try with git pull --rebase, one sec Jan 04 13:58:42 git pull --rebase: Current branch master is up to date. Jan 04 13:58:52 hmm Jan 04 13:59:02 try to push now Jan 04 13:59:15 freemangordon: you can look into it? Jan 04 13:59:27 I am afraid I can't help there Jan 04 13:59:31 Nope, still MOVE failed Jan 04 13:59:50 Pali knows more about how that works Jan 04 14:00:16 I gather it's not a problem native to vcs VM? Jan 04 14:00:26 maybe something with the user righst Jan 04 14:00:33 rights Jan 04 14:00:40 DocScrutinizer05: is it NFS mount? Jan 04 14:00:49 mompls Jan 04 14:01:41 iDont: http://www.mkonrad.net/Blog/Git-over-HTTPWebDAV-A-solution-for-git-http-push-failed-errors Jan 04 14:01:53 http://privatepaste.com/01b38c72fc Jan 04 14:02:27 iDont: try it once again :D Jan 04 14:03:48 iDont: and pastebin the output Jan 04 14:03:50 ~/.netrc contains the right credentials (just checked by manually logging in to garage.mameo.org). Pushing stills fails with the same error :/ Jan 04 14:04:20 new paste: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/00e07816/ Jan 04 14:04:34 hmm, didn't help Jan 04 14:04:50 anyway, something with your authentication is not OK Jan 04 14:05:08 damn, doesn't that git stuff have a -DDDD option? Jan 04 14:05:22 iDont: BTW why do you use HTTP, but not ssh? Jan 04 14:06:25 anyway, I need to find something to eat, I'am starving, bbl Jan 04 14:06:40 HAH! xes on vcs (unrelated) Jan 04 14:06:40 freemangordon: no particular reason, git push over http was easy and always worked. I do upload to the autobuilder via ssh though Jan 04 14:06:53 ;) Jan 04 14:07:13 hello guys! Jan 04 14:07:16 hi xes! :-) how's life? Jan 04 14:07:50 DocScrutinizer05: rainy? ...not too bad anyway Jan 04 14:09:46 dang git. Never heard of "debug" Jan 04 14:15:06 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6178401/how-can-i-debug-git-git-shell-related-problems Jan 04 14:17:50 /mnt/homedirs_users/i/idont/.ssh/authorized_key2 change date ~2minutes ago Jan 04 14:17:54 o.O Jan 04 14:19:31 DocScrutinizer05: I don't recall changing it :/. Anyhow, it has been a long time since last git push and I've distro-switched my laptop after the last successful commit Jan 04 14:19:41 please keep in mind that autorized-key is supposed to get propagated from garage to all other machines, and that can take qute a while (up to eternal, until done manually, when thinks act up) Jan 04 14:20:00 I'll try git push via ssh with a new keypair later today Jan 04 14:20:43 4SbcVk60b1sIPipsYiqw3L3BuZmGyD/dIwsHlfOsqTh8= is tail of your ssh key Jan 04 14:20:58 as of above, since 4min Jan 04 14:22:28 is it normal that even root can't cd into a rwx------ dir ?? :-o Jan 04 14:24:12 root@vcs:/mnt/homedirs_groups# ll bus*er Jan 04 14:24:13 ls: cannot open directory busybox-power: Permission denied Jan 04 14:24:43 meh, sorry. I need FOOOOOD Jan 04 14:25:15 DocScrutinizer05: :) in that case everything is possible Jan 04 14:25:50 xes: could you check the NFS mounts please? Jan 04 14:26:25 root@vcs:/mnt/homedirs_groups# ll -d bus*er Jan 04 14:26:27 drwx------ 2 www-data www-data 4096 Jul 5 2011 busybox-power/ Jan 04 14:26:35 already doing it. Anyway, concerning the git troubles i can't find anything usefule in the logs. Jan 04 14:26:52 thanks! Jan 04 14:27:41 Thanks for all the help, but I g2g now. I've created a new keypair and updated my public key at garage.maemo.org. I'll try pushing over ssh (instead of http) later today. Jan 04 14:28:06 iDont: propagating new key from garage takes ages Jan 04 14:28:19 may take ages Jan 04 14:28:19 tomorrow it is, then :) Jan 04 14:28:50 hmm, well, git push over http should still work. Will check out GIT_CURL_VERBOSE=1 and GIT_TRACE=1 then Jan 04 14:29:14 *should still work without correct ssh key Jan 04 14:29:50 no idea, I'm a bloody noob regarding git Jan 04 14:30:28 why the heck I'm +o? Jan 04 14:31:09 anyway, thanks for the help, appreciated. Bye! Jan 04 14:31:15 o/ Jan 04 14:38:53 DocScrutinizer05: i have checked the NFS share. All seems right. http://seriousbirder.com/blogs/netapp-nfs-permission-denied-errors-for-root/ Probably it's be a choice to avoid permission escalatation between servers Jan 04 14:39:19 :nod: Jan 04 14:39:37 thanks Jan 04 14:39:41 np Jan 04 14:40:44 su - wwwdata should do nevertheless ;-P Jan 04 14:41:02 impossible Jan 04 14:41:12 :) Jan 04 14:41:21 hm? Jan 04 14:41:47 is my brain already that much on hypoglyc mode? Jan 04 17:45:41 DocScrutinizer05: does xterm really do that? has the one responsible been found and taken care of yet? Jan 04 18:40:34 Mine does nothing on shift-space or whatever it was Jan 04 18:46:28 ShadowJK: do you have second HW keyboard set up? Jan 04 18:46:36 no Jan 04 18:47:06 then nothing can happen on shift-space :) Jan 04 18:51:57 on Jan 04 19:07:12 freemangordon: isn't that ctrl + space? Jan 04 19:07:42 I switch keyboard languages with ctrl + space Jan 04 21:02:09 https://github.com/elvanderb/TCP-32764 LOL Jan 04 21:08:12 DocScrutinizer05: something new to install on the n900? Jan 04 21:09:21 rather someting old to uninstall on your regular router Jan 04 21:10:41 though, seems the exploit-POC is written in python, you could most likely run it on N900 to root quite a list of vulnerable routers Jan 04 21:10:42 I keep some tools on my n900 to check the security in friendly environments Jan 04 21:11:41 or just use telnet ;-) `telnet 192.168.4.1 32764` Jan 04 21:11:51 to at least check Jan 04 21:11:58 netcat or socat to access Jan 04 21:15:05 hmpf needs python2.6 Jan 04 21:16:31 oh not really, thats python3 Jan 04 21:16:41 http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Router-auf-Backdoor-testen-2074844.html (german!) Jan 04 21:24:53 http://isc.sans.org/diary/Scans+Increase+for+New+Linksys+Backdoor+(%0A32764TCP)/17336 Jan 04 21:32:36 wow really ugly Jan 05 01:07:35 @DocScrutinizer05 | FIQ: how the heck would you press shift-space when kbd is slide-in? ;-P Jan 05 01:08:07 it's slided out... wait oh, now I see why you're pointing that out Jan 05 01:24:31 also I seem to be unable to reproduce the situation Jan 05 01:24:42 not sure what caused it, I don't recall precisely now Jan 05 01:25:02 so I'll just leave it as that for now, and try to test this further if it reappears **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Jan 05 02:59:58 2014