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Jan 07 07:41:53 <solofight|2> using backupmenu app - i can access /opt from PC when connected with a data cable ?
Jan 07 07:54:59 <orsonmmz> it should be possible, it is only MyDocs which is available through usb connection
Jan 07 09:06:55 <solofight> orsonmmz: it should be possible, it is only MyDocs which is available through usb connection ! ?
Jan 07 09:07:13 <solofight> you mean it should not be possible because its only MyDocs which is available through usb connection ?
Jan 07 09:10:39 <sixwheeledbeast> solofight: https://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2014-01-06.log.html#t2014-01-06T18:41:03 >>>re smscom
Jan 07 09:10:58 <sixwheeledbeast> s/smscom/smscon
Jan 07 09:12:20 <solofight> sixwheeledbeast: ahh ! thank you veyr much - finished that by doing what you have said (did a rm - rf /opt/smscon*) and reinstalled and it took the default password 12345 :P
Jan 07 09:13:09 <solofight> sixwheeledbeast: i am trying to browse /opt because i want to see the files of apmefo --- want to open the categories and play with their orders and levels
Jan 07 09:31:13 <sixwheeledbeast> solofight: why do you need backupmenu to view and edit /opt
Jan 07 09:31:32 <solofight> sixwheeledbeast: you are suggesting a ssh ?
Jan 07 09:31:44 <sixwheeledbeast> cd /opt/*
Jan 07 09:31:51 <solofight> ! ! 
Jan 07 09:32:01 <solofight> how do i cd /opt/* from my laptop ?
Jan 07 09:32:22 <sixwheeledbeast> oh? I mean on the device
Jan 07 09:33:13 <sixwheeledbeast> well backupmenu can access opt using USB yes. 
Jan 07 09:53:26 <solofight|2> sixwheeledbeast: when i select the usb networking or usb mass storage my win 7 detects the device similar to when i connect as PCsuite mode
Jan 07 09:53:32 <solofight|2> i am not able to see opt
Jan 07 10:12:27 <orsonmmz> solofight|2: sry, I misread you, you are right, it is not accessible from pc
Jan 07 10:12:44 <orsonmmz> i think the easiest option would be to tar it and put into MyDocs folder
Jan 07 10:31:05 <solofight|2> orsonmmz: hmm,, no problem - just got the ssh working on n900
Jan 07 10:31:10 <solofight|2> thanks for the time and inputs
Jan 07 10:36:46 <orsonmmz> solofight|2: you are welcome
Jan 07 10:37:04 <solofight|2> orsonmmz: do you use apmefo ?
Jan 07 10:37:28 <orsonmmz> solofight|2: nope, is it a full name of an acronym for sth else?
Jan 07 10:38:08 <solofight|2> orsonmmz: no idea what sth is - apmefo is a app used to categorize your apps to groups in n900
Jan 07 10:38:39 <solofight|2> anyways - wanted to ask where it stores the db or hierarchy level which we created in the filesystem if you were using it
Jan 07 10:38:51 <solofight|2> i checked the /opt and it was not there (had only python files)
Jan 07 10:45:35 <orsonmmz> solofight|2: I use categoriser or sth similar
Jan 07 10:45:46 <orsonmmz> and it works with .desktop files (/usr/share/applications)
Jan 07 10:45:53 <orsonmmz> there should be mentioned type of application
Jan 07 10:46:01 <orsonmmz> and it is used to put them into right folders
Jan 07 10:46:09 <orsonmmz> maybe it is the same case with apmefo
Jan 07 10:46:22 <orsonmmz> at least I can't think of another solution
Jan 07 10:46:23 <solofight|2> orsonmmz: with cateroise you cannot customize your own folders right ?
Jan 07 10:51:09 <orsonmmz> solofight|2: I have never tried, but I think - no
Jan 07 10:51:23 <orsonmmz> solofight|2: do you put apps into folder by hand with apmefo?
Jan 07 10:51:28 <solofight|2> yes
Jan 07 10:51:44 <solofight|2> cateroise arranges them automatically and will not allow you to customize
Jan 07 10:51:56 <solofight|2> apmefo we need to create folders and manually push apps into them
Jan 07 10:52:10 <solofight|2> its hardwork but once done its easy go
Jan 07 10:56:01 <orsonmmz> ok, so it seems unlikely that it uses .desktop files
Jan 07 10:56:15 <orsonmmz> i would like for hidden files in home directory
Jan 07 10:56:18 <orsonmmz> or .config/apmefo
Jan 07 10:56:40 <orsonmmz> or find /usr -name "*apmefo*"
Jan 07 10:56:49 <orsonmmz> also /etc or /opt ;)
Jan 07 10:57:00 <solofight|2> alredy checked /etc and /opt
Jan 07 10:57:08 <solofight|2> will check /usr and .config
Jan 07 10:57:10 <solofight|2> thank you
Jan 07 12:16:39 <DocScrutinizer05> netfilters anybody?
Jan 07 12:17:23 <DocScrutinizer05> I want to create a rule that -DROPs when too many connects from $IP to $port per minute happen
Jan 07 13:30:13 <warfare> DocScrutinizer05: out of the blue: iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 25 --syn  -m limit --limit 10/second -j DROP 
Jan 07 13:31:20 <DocScrutinizer05> warfare: :-)
Jan 07 13:31:53 <DocScrutinizer05> can I make this 10/minute?
Jan 07 13:32:14 <warfare> sure. man iptables and search for --limit 
Jan 07 13:32:27 <DocScrutinizer05> err sure, sorry
Jan 07 13:32:32 <DocScrutinizer05> :-)
Jan 07 13:32:42 * DocScrutinizer05 heads out for more coffee
Jan 07 13:33:21 <DocScrutinizer05> too much exciting stuff before my 2nd coffee. Mail defect. Molex connectors sourced
Jan 07 13:37:52 <Veggen> Coffee is a wonderful remedy. I remember arriving to work, having my boss telling me I have to spend 4 days on the long and official way to do the task instead of the half day that I had spent lots of effort earlier verifying got correct results...
Jan 07 13:39:09 <Veggen> I tried opening my moth for a reply, but decided the best thing to say was the single world "coffee", upon which I turned back through the door, to the cafeteria, for 15 minutes quality times with a coffee, then I tried arriving once more ;)
Jan 07 13:40:33 <DocScrutinizer05> hehe
Jan 07 14:54:21 <ShadowJK> I was at work early, and this dude came in. I gave him the "If it's not on fire I don't care"-look :P
Jan 07 14:54:25 <ShadowJK> he changed what he was going to say and said "After you've had coffee and your work hours starts..."
Jan 07 15:05:18 <DocScrutinizer05> all coffee didn't help. wireshark leaves me with TLS gibberish that doesn't tell me what fails. Can't send email. Sorry
Jan 07 16:48:01 <enyc> Hrrm
Jan 07 16:48:36 <enyc> having fun setting global environment varibles no clear way todo it ...  seeemnigly adding to  /etc/osso-af-init/locale  works
Jan 07 18:50:05 <FIQ> TMO seems dead
Jan 07 18:50:16 <FIQ> literally
Jan 07 18:50:23 <freemangordon> WFM
Jan 07 18:50:37 <FIQ> wfm?
Jan 07 18:50:47 <freemangordon> ~wfm
Jan 07 18:51:10 <freemangordon> well, she is dead
Jan 07 18:51:12 <freemangordon> ~ping
Jan 07 18:51:17 <infobot> rumour has it, wfm is (Wired For Management Baseline) This is an Intel hardware specification that is designed to allow for compliance with easier management of desktop PCs in a networked environment. The specification calls for computers to be compatible with a pre-boot protocol that can be used to update the system or perform other management options. Also, the computer must be compatible with network/desktop management applications..  Works For Me
Jan 07 18:51:17 <infobot> ~pong
Jan 07 18:51:25 <freemangordon> FIQ: works for me
Jan 07 18:51:30 <FIQ> lagspike
Jan 07 18:52:51 <FIQ> no
Jan 07 18:53:11 <FIQ> huh
Jan 07 18:53:13 <freemangordon> FIQ: I have no problem to open TMO
Jan 07 18:53:18 <FIQ> google gave a weird URL
Jan 07 18:53:24 <freemangordon> check your DNS
Jan 07 18:53:27 <FIQ> it linked to http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php%3Fp%3D1402503
Jan 07 18:53:38 <FIQ> I repaired the link by hand
Jan 07 18:53:40 <FIQ> and it worked
Jan 07 18:53:41 <freemangordon> 404
Jan 07 18:53:48 <FIQ> allthough there's no proper 404 page
Jan 07 18:54:07 <freemangordon> proper?
Jan 07 18:54:13 <FIQ> well
Jan 07 18:54:14 <freemangordon> "Not Found"
Jan 07 18:54:18 <FIQ> non-default :D
Jan 07 18:54:24 <freemangordon> oh
Jan 07 18:54:40 <FIQ> no idea why google gave a dead link like that though
Jan 07 19:12:53 <FIQ> hm
Jan 07 22:43:26 <Apic> Good Night (UGT) to You all.
Jan 07 23:40:10 <DocScrutinizer05> TZZZ, my mail issues "fixed themselves"
Jan 08 02:32:31 <FIQ> just curious, but why is there 2 instances of hildon-status-menu running according to ps aux?
Jan 08 02:33:02 <FIQ> seems to be the case for all hildon-* processes
Jan 08 02:33:25 <FIQ> besides input-method and notification-daemon
Jan 08 02:55:44 <Sysaxed> hello. I bought new headhones(with a mic) and by default inserting it into my n900 results with a buzz sound. Someone on maemo forums suggested to hold the mic button while plugging in and it worked! No buzz sound, speaker works. But what about mic? Is there any way to get it to work? I've found some CTIA to OMTP and back converters, is that it?
Jan 08 02:59:28 <robbiethe1st> I'm guessing it's got a TRRS connectir>
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