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Jan 18 09:41:00 <sixwheeledbeast> ~sdk
Jan 18 09:41:01 <infobot> it has been said that sdk is http://privatepaste.com/e4a5b13fad or "wget http://repository.maemo.org/tabletsdev/explicit/maemo-dev-env-downloads/downloads/Readme_Ubuntu_Lucid_Desktop_SDK_Virtual_Image_Final.txt"
Jan 18 09:42:33 <sixwheeledbeast> well, ain't going to wget that then.
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Jan 18 12:45:26 <DocScrutinizer05> sixwheeledbeast: that's the funny part, the above still works. But Nokia forbids we make it available, so everybody needs to write a mail with their IMEI for proof and then can get a copy on DVD?
Jan 18 12:54:48 <sixwheeledbeast> This is what Nokia have said?
Jan 18 12:56:00 <DocScrutinizer05> no, that's what I wonder how to proceed
Jan 18 12:57:00 <sixwheeledbeast> Well if 40K users ask for it, they would be stupid to provide 40K DVD's
Jan 18 12:57:13 <DocScrutinizer05> they? we!!!
Jan 18 12:57:33 <sixwheeledbeast> er?
Jan 18 12:57:50 <DocScrutinizer05> though, good idea actually: pester them till they get nightmares 
Jan 18 12:58:48 <sixwheeledbeast> Yes. Exactly, but it has to be a solid community effort.
Jan 18 12:59:39 <sixwheeledbeast> I think we have a community capable :)
Jan 18 13:00:27 <DocScrutinizer05> then it's probably time to start a thread pointing to tablets-dev.nokia.com?
Jan 18 13:02:24 <sixwheeledbeast> When it was mentioned a while ago I didn't know if there was a plan, or want to mess up any HiFo negotiations
Jan 18 13:23:11 <DocScrutinizer05> I have no idea about HiFo negotiations and how they would get messed up by massive requests to Nokia about tablets-dev
Jan 18 13:24:01 <DocScrutinizer05> I however wonder what goods Nokia is actually negotiating about. The maemo.org domain plus midgard?
Jan 18 13:24:45 <DocScrutinizer05> I can't think of more stuff that was a possible subject to negotiations
Jan 18 13:25:39 <DocScrutinizer05> obviously the *relevant* vital stuff explicitly isn't subject to any negotiations
Jan 18 13:43:37 <DocScrutinizer05> I heard it's also "the website2 that gets negotiated about, but what the heck does that mean? the info in there is in the public domain anyway. and stuff like http://maemo.org/development/sdks/ is terribly obsolete and points to dead ends for all I can tell
Jan 18 13:44:19 <DocScrutinizer05> or has anybody finally managed to install SDK from http://developer.nokia.com/info/sw.nokia.com/id/c05693a1-265c-4c7f-a389-fc227db4c465/Maemo_5_SDK.html ?
Jan 18 13:44:25 <DocScrutinizer05> I honestly doubt
Jan 18 13:45:01 <DocScrutinizer05> same with http://maemovmware.garage.maemo.org/2nd_edition/
Jan 18 13:49:29 <android_808> Is it usual for https://garage.maemo.org/extras-assistant to not show submitted package under fremantle build queue?
Jan 18 13:58:08 <DocScrutinizer05> probably not usual
Jan 18 14:00:05 <android_808> Good start.  I'll try it again later.
Jan 18 14:01:28 <merlin1991> I wonder WHY I have no css on the extras assistant
Jan 18 14:02:27 <android_808> firefox?
Jan 18 14:03:16 <android_808> For me it decided to automatically block elements, little shield symbol by address bar
Jan 18 14:03:41 <android_808> Found that out this morning before I started
Jan 18 14:05:15 <sixwheeledbeast> merlin1991: IIRC it's FF reaction to expired cert.
Jan 18 14:06:24 <sixwheeledbeast> android_808: did you use the extras-assistant to upload?
Jan 18 14:07:30 <android_808> sixwheeledbeast:yeah. Just tried it again and clicking move to queue makes it appear on the right side.  Any refreshing/page change seems to remove it.
Jan 18 14:07:32 <kolp> Hi DocScrutinizer05, I'm playing arounf with your charge21_500mA-USBlimit__UNTESTED.sh. It works well, and I'm wondering if there is a reason why it is limited to 500mA?
Jan 18 14:09:11 <freemangordon> merlin1991: I have the same problem, iirc you (and me) should enable mixed content or something
Jan 18 14:10:04 <sixwheeledbeast> android_808: seems issue with assistant then, tried scp?
Jan 18 14:10:06 <DocScrutinizer05> kolp: the limit to 500mA is the special feature of this script over the charge21.sh of ShadowJK
Jan 18 14:11:37 <DocScrutinizer05> LOL!  https://garage.maemo.org/extras-assistant --> "SEITE NICHT GEFUNDEN"
Jan 18 14:12:45 <android_808> sixwheeledbeast: I've got a mussorgsky fix lined up but lacking automatic optification at the moment. I could try pushing that to see if it is package specific
Jan 18 14:13:01 <android_808> DocScrutinizer05: missing / at end
Jan 18 14:13:19 <DocScrutinizer05> http://wstaw.org/m/2014/01/18/plasma-desktopts3389.png
Jan 18 14:13:49 <DocScrutinizer05> android_808: you ran out of "/" ?
Jan 18 14:14:27 <android_808> DocScrutinizer05: no, if you add / to end of https://garage.maemo.org/extras-assistant it works
Jan 18 14:14:32 <kolp> DocScrutinizer05: right, thanks
Jan 18 14:14:36 <sixwheeledbeast> :nod:
Jan 18 14:14:48 <DocScrutinizer05> [2014-01-18 14:49:29] <android_808> Is it usual for https://garage.maemo.org/extras-assistant to not show submitted package under fremantle build queue?
Jan 18 14:15:15 <android_808> oops
Jan 18 14:15:20 <sixwheeledbeast> android_808: if I am not mistaken fmg can reproduce?
Jan 18 14:16:24 <android_808> sixwheeledbeast: reproduce?
Jan 18 14:17:20 <sixwheeledbeast> oh maybe he meant css issue
Jan 18 14:19:15 <sixwheeledbeast> what package has the issue? cooktimer was updated not long ago so I guess something works. Probably scp.
Jan 18 14:25:22 <android_808> rtmpdump-2.4+20121230.  Its almost idenitical to my version on TMO, but I've added maemo-optify to debian/rules instead of running maemo-optify-deb after.
Jan 18 14:32:11 <sixwheeledbeast> android_808: there's nothing wrong with build queue then https://garage.maemo.org/pipermail/extras-cauldron-builds/2014-January/154826.html
Jan 18 14:34:00 <sixwheeledbeast> plus mussorgsky has just been built
Jan 18 14:35:39 <android_808> I literally wondered about that key so I added mussorgsky without it just before you posted that.  Will need to sort that out.  Thx for help.  Now time for some lunch
Jan 18 14:42:06 <sixwheeledbeast> android_808: np, oh this is worth a read if your working on mussorgsky http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=60374
Jan 18 18:16:20 <ZogG_laptop> anyone can tell me where do i get n810 FW these days?
Jan 18 18:43:55 <sixwheeledbeast> ZogG_laptop: probably the mystical maemo north-westerly wind ;)
Jan 18 18:47:27 <ZogG_laptop> :(
Jan 18 18:47:38 <ZogG_laptop> i got n810 as present few days ago
Jan 18 18:47:41 <ZogG_laptop> want to hard reset it
Jan 18 18:48:08 <ZogG_laptop> tablet dev of nokia dead already :(
Jan 18 18:52:44 <sixwheeledbeast> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anemoi#Minor_winds
Jan 18 19:18:04 <DocScrutinizer05> sixwheeledbeast: didn't notice it been so loud
Jan 18 19:19:14 <sixwheeledbeast> the nw wind I presume?
Jan 18 19:24:26 <DocScrutinizer05> rather the tornado it caused
Jan 18 19:24:53 <DocScrutinizer05> :-x
Jan 18 19:32:35 <sixwheeledbeast> mmm
Jan 18 19:33:44 <DocScrutinizer05> anyway, everybody gets his stuff while it's still "best before:"
Jan 18 19:34:59 <DocScrutinizer05> as always: the future is ... uncertain
Jan 18 19:37:33 <DocScrutinizer05> https://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2014-01-18.log.html#t2014-01-18T01:42:46
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