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Mar 30 04:55:27 <Sicelo> Sc0rpius: AS works just fine. i setup the outlook.com just to test this functionality on the N900. all supported sync methods work just fine (besides this weird behaviour i have reported). and yeah, even the guys at the shop i bought N900 from were amazed that my N900 is still working and I'm happy with it. I was buying my sister a Lumia 520
Mar 30 06:11:04 <thedead1440> DocScrutinizer05: yes still alive; will send that email soon
Mar 30 06:28:24 <Maxdamantus> (cd /sys/class/leds; h=(0 1 0 -1 0 0 0 0 1 0 -1 0 1 0 0 0 0 -1); a=0; b=0; d=(1 2 1) n=(r g b); rgb=(255 0 0); for((;;)); do if ((a >= 255)); then a=0; ((b = (b + 1)%6)); fi; for ((x = 0; x < 3; x++)); do ((rgb[$x] += h[b*3 + x])); done; ((a++)); for ((x = 0; x < 3; x++)); do echo $((rgb[x]/d[x])) > lp5523\:"${n[x]}"/brightness; done; done)
Mar 30 06:28:39 <Maxdamantus> the green LED seems to overpower the others.
Mar 30 12:00:40 <ori553> Hi :) anyone knows about battery mods on the nokia n900? I just want to ask if the 2 batteries have to be the same model or they can be from different brands
Mar 30 12:01:26 <kerio> afaik it's better if they're as similar as possible
Mar 30 12:01:39 <kerio> but i don't know how much it changes
Mar 30 12:05:24 <ori553> seems fair
Mar 30 12:59:01 <DocScrutinizer05> ori553: you ask about connecting battery cells in parallel? They *must* have same cell chemistry and on moment of connecting them must have same voltage (resulting from similar charging level of both cells)
Mar 30 13:01:11 <DocScrutinizer05> they *should* have several same characteristics, e.g. regarding cell impedance class (heavy duty vs longlife buffer type)
Mar 30 13:02:32 <DocScrutinizer05> also maximum and minimum voltage allowed shall be same (usually implicitly warranted by identical cell chemistry)
Mar 30 13:03:20 <ori553> thanks DocScrutinizer05, do you think its a good idea to buy 2 used original nokia bl-5j batteries? they are 2.7 pounds each
Mar 30 13:03:45 <DocScrutinizer05> ori553: you should keep the internal fuse of each individual cell
Mar 30 13:03:58 <ori553> what does that mean?
Mar 30 13:05:13 <DocScrutinizer05> inside a battery there's a electrical fuse in series to the cell. You should keep that and connect parallel the multiple o--fuse--cell--o elements
Mar 30 13:06:50 <DocScrutinizer05> classical blowfuse, made of some wire that melts and fuses on high current, to cut out the battery
Mar 30 13:08:09 <DocScrutinizer05> (used BL-5J) well, I bought a few of those and I'm fine with them
Mar 30 13:09:42 <ori553> I'm planning to not fuse anything, I want to connect the batteries using solder wire as it's showed in one of the maemo talk battery mods
Mar 30 13:10:21 <DocScrutinizer05> that would even keep the electronic protection circuit, which is fine as well
Mar 30 13:11:46 <DocScrutinizer05> you probably don't want to connect the BSI contacts of both batteries
Mar 30 13:12:29 <ori553> I have no idea what is a BSI contact, what I want to do is this:
Mar 30 13:12:29 <ori553> http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=980384&postcount=443
Mar 30 13:13:05 <ori553> what do you think DocScrutinizer05?
Mar 30 13:13:11 <DocScrutinizer05> BSI is labeled "T" there
Mar 30 13:13:23 <DocScrutinizer05> should work
Mar 30 13:14:54 <ori553> :)
Mar 30 13:16:43 <DocScrutinizer05> http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=981077&postcount=448 coonected BSI which isn't a brilliant idea
Mar 30 13:18:11 <DocScrutinizer05> http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=981378&postcount=449 mentions it
Mar 30 13:29:27 <ori553> so, if I understoof well, I should leave the BSI alone, right?
Mar 30 13:29:34 <ori553> *understood
Mar 30 13:30:09 <DocScrutinizer05> right
Mar 30 13:35:00 <ori553> thanks
Mar 30 13:35:05 <DocScrutinizer05> about charging time discussed in http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=981380&postcount=450 : The battery(ies) is/are charged by a constant-current/constant-voltage scheme. when the CC part of that scheme would get adjusted to same ratio of capacity of multibattery setup, then the charging time would be identical to single battery setup. However with CC only being maybe one hour of the ~3.5h charging total, it's obvious that only this time 
Mar 30 13:35:07 <DocScrutinizer05> increases by factor 2 for doubling the battery capacity, while the CV segment of the process shall stay same duration. IOW: the charging for dual-battery will be 4.5h instead of 3.5h
Mar 30 13:37:52 <ori553> thanks
Mar 30 13:37:58 <DocScrutinizer05> as in (1h CC) * 2  + (2.5h CV)
Mar 30 13:39:13 <ori553> I can't wait for the mugen cover and the batteries to arrive, it must be a nice feeling when you're in a long journey and realize that you can actually play games or watch a movie on your phone
Mar 30 13:41:01 <DocScrutinizer05> (neglecting the fact that actual end-of-charge detection gets flawed by the unchanged end-of-charge-current threshold, which will kick in later with two parallel batteries, but that only means it's charging longer until you get the "charged" message, but batteries are charged to same level after 4.5h that a single battery is after 3.5h. It might take another 1h on top of that until the charger *detects* "battery charged")
Mar 30 13:42:34 <ori553> do you think that 1h on top of that until the charger detects "battery charged" will damage the battery?
Mar 30 13:42:51 <ori553> *the batteries
Mar 30 13:42:58 <DocScrutinizer05> no, definitely not. When you keep display on, the threshold never trips
Mar 30 13:43:48 <DocScrutinizer05> bme does some silly and some smart things around all this, but it's not introducing problems when you add a 2nd battery in parallel
Mar 30 13:47:21 <DocScrutinizer05> bottom line: don't connect BSI and make sure you don't create any shorts to the metal battery bay or between the battery contacts, and you're fine with such setup. Your capacity and "charging" indicators might sometimes be quite a bit off the actual values, but that isn't a huge problem
Mar 30 13:49:31 <DocScrutinizer05> I see the hugest risk in those blank wires running from primary to second battery, they rather should be isolated so you can't shortcircuit batteries by simply touching a conductive surface
Mar 30 13:51:14 <DocScrutinizer05> ~bme
Mar 30 13:51:15 <infobot> bme is, like, http://wiki.maemo.org/N900_Software_BME
Mar 30 13:58:29 <DocScrutinizer05> ((<GeneralAntilles> DocScrutinizer05, you desperately need some down time.)) sure, pal. I will have infinite downtime RSN
Mar 30 13:59:14 <DocScrutinizer05> I had ~3 months time to ponder this step. Now I'm set
Mar 30 14:02:18 <DocScrutinizer05> I'm just waiting for another few days to not complicate your e.V. business, and maybe I'll help Jussi since he's responsible to take care about elections. Other than that, I already *got* my downtime, if you haven't noticed
Mar 30 14:06:47 <DocScrutinizer05> I however will increase the level of "down" by - from now on - not even forwarding eny incidents like the one with certs expiring. Those go to my private /dev/null instead, from now on
Mar 30 14:07:10 <DocScrutinizer05> s/ eny/ any/
Mar 30 14:07:10 <infobot> DocScrutinizer05 meant: I however will increase the level of "down" by - from now on - not even forwarding any incidents like the one with certs expiring. Those go to my private /dev/null instead, from now on
Mar 30 14:08:03 <DocScrutinizer05> when every word you say earns you some more bitching, you eventually don't say a word anymore
Mar 30 14:08:07 <DocScrutinizer05> simple as that
Mar 30 14:11:22 <DocScrutinizer05> I'll simply remove all my mail aliases from *@maemo.org
Mar 30 14:12:06 <DocScrutinizer05> all of them should at least have one more valid address of some other person they get sent to as well
Mar 30 14:12:41 <DocScrutinizer05> so I won't take care of finding any replacement for the aliases (no longer) pointing to me
Mar 30 14:15:28 <DocScrutinizer05> no more >>
Mar 30 14:15:30 <DocScrutinizer05> ** PROBLEM Service Alert: scratchbox.maemo.org/SSH is CRITICAL **
Mar 30 14:15:31 <DocScrutinizer05> From: nagios@monitor.maemo.org
Mar 30 14:15:33 <DocScrutinizer05>   To: maemo-infra-monitor@reisexxxxx.xx
Mar 30 14:15:34 <DocScrutinizer05>   Date: 2014-03-28 07:22 <<
Mar 30 14:15:36 <DocScrutinizer05> OMG, which joy! \o/
Mar 30 21:57:24 <Ashley`> 'sup?
Mar 30 21:58:46 * Ashley` is coding something cool for maemo (and for linux) :v
Mar 30 21:59:13 <Ashley`> there is already poor man's siri
Mar 30 21:59:36 <Ashley`> so this is almost poor man's siri
Mar 30 22:00:32 <Ashley`> she'll be doing a little more than just searching that website with answers :p
Mar 30 22:10:54 <Sc0rpius> what are you coding
Mar 30 22:12:18 <Sc0rpius> I've been coding today too.
Mar 30 22:38:45 <Ashley`> almost-poor man's siri
Mar 30 22:48:43 <Sc0rpius> like Saera?
Mar 30 22:49:09 <Sc0rpius> http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=84753
Mar 30 23:47:26 <RST38h> SCP-2805 is the severed head of American industrialist Walt Disney, frozen in a cryogenic freezer. Attached to the freezer are two rotary telephones, circa 1966.
Mar 31 00:33:07 <phoohb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nA7KZF94wk
Mar 31 00:39:39 <Maxdamantus> Woah, it's playing.
Mar 31 00:39:59 <Maxdamantus> I've been getting 403s for music videos using the current way I play YT videos.
Mar 31 00:45:05 <Maxdamantus> still 403 for other videos.
Mar 31 01:43:30 <phoohb> åh
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