**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Apr 05 02:59:58 2014
Apr 05 05:59:38 <Apic> Good Morning (UGT)!
Apr 05 06:00:10 <Apic> Maxdamantus: Any Idea? Shall i mount a tmpfs under /fresh_pics and write a Shell Script to move them in the Background?
Apr 05 06:00:26 <Apic> Or rather under MyDocs/DCIM so i do not need to touch the Camera App
Apr 05 06:03:00 <Maxdamantus> Hm.
Apr 05 06:03:12 <Maxdamantus> I'll strace the camera application to see if it does a sync/fsync
Apr 05 06:03:41 <Maxdamantus> Because that could be an issue if it's not writing it out fast enough for some reason.
Apr 05 06:04:13 <Maxdamantus> (I don't think something like the camera application should be doing a sync there, but applications are known to sync at stupid times)
Apr 05 06:07:30 <Maxdamantus> Can't see one.
Apr 05 06:07:53 <Maxdamantus> Maybe you should do an strace and see what happens when you try to take the second picture.
Apr 05 06:07:58 <Maxdamantus> just use -e trace=file
Apr 05 06:08:45 <Maxdamantus> strace -f -e trace=file -p `pidof camera-ui`
Apr 05 06:09:51 <Maxdamantus> but if it ends up all being futile, just copying them from a tmpfs like you suggested would be a solution.
Apr 05 06:21:43 <Maxdamantus> er, there are two camera-ui processes.
Apr 05 08:29:36 <Apic> Mompls
Apr 05 08:32:48 <Apic> Deploying strace.
Apr 05 08:37:46 <Apic> WTF?
Apr 05 08:37:53 <Apic> When i strace it, it _works_
Apr 05 08:38:00 <Apic> But i cannot find the Tracefile
Apr 05 08:38:15 <Apic> When running without strace again, it hangs again at 2nd Photo
Apr 05 08:42:22 <Maxdamantus> strace doesn't normally generate a tracefile.
Apr 05 08:42:32 <Apic> ic
Apr 05 08:42:41 <Apic> Can You explain that?
Apr 05 08:42:44 <Maxdamantus> It will just print the output to stdout by default.
Apr 05 08:42:48 <Apic> That it does not hang while straced?
Apr 05 08:43:24 <Apic> I'll use -o file tracefile
Apr 05 08:43:30 <Maxdamantus> You should attach strace to an existing camera-ui process.
Apr 05 08:43:46 <Maxdamantus> the one that uses CPU according top `top`
Apr 05 08:43:51 <Apic> Yes, i used the one of the 2 with bigger Residencesize
Apr 05 08:44:44 <Maxdamantus> and part of the usefulness of strace is to see what it's doing when it hangs, so you'd want to see the output live.
Apr 05 08:45:32 <Apic> It goes to „Standby" when i change to the Shell Terminal Window, so top does not show it using any CPU.
Apr 05 08:45:43 <Apic> Yes, but when tracing, it _works_
Apr 05 08:45:48 <Apic> Heisenbug…
Apr 05 09:49:15 <Apic> I'll just workaround by closing and reopening the Cam App after each Photograph.
Apr 05 10:24:39 <Maxdamantus> Apic: if it magically works under strace, maybe you should just automatically strace it.
Apr 05 10:26:10 <Apic> Maybe
Apr 05 10:26:40 <Apic> But the Workaround is even easier than that.
Apr 05 10:26:52 <Maxdamantus> Though more intrusive.
Apr 05 10:27:00 <Apic> +shrug+
Apr 05 18:48:34 <Ashley`> how to install festival tts on maemo? :v
Apr 05 18:52:58 <Sicelo> App. Manager?
Apr 05 19:03:19 <Ashley`> nope
Apr 05 19:03:33 <Ashley`> it says something about dependency on adduser
Apr 05 19:03:41 <Ashley`> which is "not going to be installed"
Apr 05 19:03:47 <Ashley`> (in apt-get)
Apr 05 19:03:58 <Ashley`> (in app manager it doesnt even show up)
Apr 05 19:04:04 <Sicelo> `apt-cache search adduser`
Apr 05 19:07:22 <Ashley`> i've just installed adduser
Apr 05 19:07:31 <Ashley`> but it is version 3.102maemo1
Apr 05 19:07:44 <Ashley`> and festival depends on adduser >= 3.105
Apr 05 19:10:08 <Sicelo> tha's unfortunate :(
Apr 05 19:10:21 <Sicelo> use espeak then .. i know it works (i'm using it)
Apr 05 19:11:57 <Ashley`> but espeak is awful :P
Apr 05 19:14:51 <Sicelo> it works :D
Apr 05 19:15:16 <Sicelo> or just pester the maintainer of adduser then
Apr 05 19:15:28 <Sicelo> or compile it for yourself
Apr 05 19:18:08 <DocScrutinizer05> maemo.org going south?
Apr 05 19:18:18 <Sicelo> what you mean DocScrutinizer05?
Apr 05 19:18:19 <DocScrutinizer05> warfare: ^^^
Apr 05 19:18:32 <DocScrutinizer05> http://monitor.maemo.org/ganglia/
Apr 05 19:18:37 <Sicelo> Ashley`: i have never used festival tbh, is it that great?
Apr 05 19:19:02 <Ashley`> it is not great, but better than espeak
Apr 05 19:19:32 <Sicelo> i see. will try it on my pc
Apr 05 19:20:01 <DocScrutinizer05> hmm, no. http://maemo.org/packages/ been extremely slow, like 60s for loading the page, but it seems fixed
Apr 05 19:21:21 <warfare> Probably due to backups currently running. 
Apr 05 19:22:00 <DocScrutinizer05> aah, k
Apr 05 19:22:12 <DocScrutinizer05> warfare: ganglia monitor restart neede3d
Apr 05 19:22:25 <warfare> DocScrutinizer05: already done ;) 
Apr 05 19:22:29 <DocScrutinizer05> :-D
Apr 05 19:23:29 <DocScrutinizer05> I thought I fixed that upstart mess what starts the ganglia parts before network is up
Apr 05 19:25:08 <DocScrutinizer05> at least on one VM I'm sure I once fixed it
Apr 05 19:26:23 <DocScrutinizer05> prolly since I did that "manually" (and not in ganglia upstream), a system update nuked it
Apr 05 19:53:29 <sixwheeledbeast> pkg has been slow loading for a few days, TBH I thought it was just me.
Apr 05 21:55:29 <DocScrutinizer05> right now it seems ~normal
Apr 05 21:55:45 <DocScrutinizer05> from my perspective
Apr 05 21:58:08 <DocScrutinizer05> but yeah, prolly you were right, looking at http://monitor.maemo.org/ganglia/graph_all_periods.php?c=maemo&h=www&v=35.279&m=disk_free&r=hour&z=default&jr=&js=&st=1396734996&vl=GB&ti=Disk%20Space%20Available&z=large
Apr 05 22:01:37 <Maxdamantus> ~normal = ¬normal or approximately normal?
Apr 05 22:30:55 <DocScrutinizer05> aprox
Apr 05 22:31:07 <DocScrutinizer05> sorry :-)
Apr 05 22:39:05 <RST38h> EHLO DOC
Apr 05 22:40:18 <DocScrutinizer05> hmm?
Apr 05 22:40:34 <Maxdamantus> I think he's trying to speak in SMTP.
Apr 05 22:40:36 <DocScrutinizer05> hi RST38h
Apr 05 22:42:08 <Maxdamantus> 250 hi RST38h
Apr 05 22:42:51 <RST38h> Doc: How is suffering nowadays?
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