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Apr 09 07:42:45 <DocScrutinizer05> freemangordon: you can find warfare here
Apr 09 07:44:02 <DocScrutinizer05> and prolly even chem|st
Apr 09 07:44:11 <DocScrutinizer05> FWIW
Apr 09 07:45:00 <DocScrutinizer05> xes seems to be a rare guest on IRC, since...
Apr 09 07:46:05 <DocScrutinizer05> a classical situation where you DONT want public channel
Apr 09 07:47:13 <DocScrutinizer05> (a reply to those who bitched "why THE F**K do we need a 'closed' admin channel at all?")
Apr 09 07:48:15 <DocScrutinizer05> well, I could post the names and IPs of those who asked such BS ;-P
Apr 09 07:49:30 <DocScrutinizer05> which should conveniently and adequately answer their question
Apr 09 07:50:00 <DocScrutinizer05> or how about phone number? 
Apr 09 07:50:15 <DocScrutinizer05> address?
Apr 09 07:52:35 <DocScrutinizer05> MEH!
Apr 09 07:52:40 <Apic> Moo!
Apr 09 07:52:52 <DocScrutinizer05> good luck maemo!
Apr 09 07:55:57 * DocScrutinizer05 notices vivid attendance at yesterday's meeting
Apr 09 08:14:59 <eth0_> So execpt soldering, they did not have a way to flash n900 without usb 
Apr 09 08:15:55 <eth0_> Infrared, tv port … ? 
Apr 09 09:05:26 <zGrr> moin :)
Apr 09 10:42:23 <DocScrutinizer05> eth0_: unclear. there *might* be a way to flash via JTAG, using a fixture jig that goes to where battery usually sits
Apr 09 10:43:07 <DocScrutinizer05> this is a lab procedure for engineers at Nokia
Apr 09 10:43:25 <DocScrutinizer05> for user there's no alternative
Apr 09 10:44:09 <DocScrutinizer05> honestly, a N900 without USB port is largely useless
Apr 09 10:48:15 <eth0_> thanks for your reply, i'm gonna try to fix usb port… 
Apr 09 11:06:11 <eth0_> DocScrutinizer05: i've a battery charger, so except for flashing, the usb connector still useless for me 
Apr 09 11:07:03 <DocScrutinizer05> mhm
Apr 09 11:09:17 <DocScrutinizer05> I'd hate to boot each day (twice)
Apr 09 11:10:57 <eth0_> I know, but it seems to be the only way for me to have an n900 
Apr 09 11:11:02 <eth0_> s/an/a
Apr 09 11:16:31 <DocScrutinizer05> ~usbfix
Apr 09 11:16:32 <infobot> usbfix is probably http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75920 - and **NEVER** use epoxy (unless you want to seal your device for underwater), or http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PL2862BF3631A5C1AA&feature=player_detailpage&v=fYz5nIHH0iY#t=1861, or you will basically need two irons
Apr 09 11:41:14 <hxka> DocScrutinizer05: I have that issue with Opera as well
Apr 09 11:41:51 <DocScrutinizer05> hxka: sorry?
Apr 09 11:42:29 <hxka> > <DocScrutinizer51> wow! that's odd. I just locked device while Opera still downloading a webpage. The indicator LED flashed blue to me, like SMS
Apr 09 11:42:43 <DocScrutinizer05> aah
Apr 09 11:42:49 <DocScrutinizer05> yes, it's a feature
Apr 09 11:42:52 <DocScrutinizer05> ;-P
Apr 09 11:44:05 <DocScrutinizer05> actually amazing how closely they matched opera to maemo/N900
Apr 09 11:46:50 <DocScrutinizer05> currently I try to tweak my PC KDE so it becomes usable again. Systray steals focus and sets it to NIL, as soon as a new systray icion gets added. Easy test: plug in a memstick, so the usually hidden Device Notifier moves to visible systray section
Apr 09 11:49:11 <DocScrutinizer05> trying to fix dat shite via special window rules for Plasma panel... doesn't pan out :-/
Apr 09 11:49:26 <r00t^home> fun stuff
Apr 09 11:50:17 <DocScrutinizer05> particularly when you got Konversation IRC client configured to show a systray notifier when any highlight happened
Apr 09 11:50:24 <r00t^home> i'd suspect the success rate of reporting a bug to be exactly zero
Apr 09 11:50:46 <DocScrutinizer05> errr bugtracker works ;-P
Apr 09 11:50:48 <r00t^home> i was refering to the fun of trying to fix it, not the bug itself, which is ofcourse fun too
Apr 09 11:51:17 <r00t^home> success rate as in having it get fixed this decade
Apr 09 11:53:39 <DocScrutinizer05> nfc, prolly you're 100% right
Apr 09 11:53:43 <DocScrutinizer05> http://wstaw.org/m/2014/04/09/plasma-desktopqt1775.png
Apr 09 11:53:53 <DocScrutinizer05> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=311467
Apr 09 11:53:57 <povbot> 04Bug 311467: was not found.
Apr 09 11:58:14 <DocScrutinizer05> http://wstaw.org/m/2014/04/09/plasma-desktopOF1775.png
Apr 09 12:00:28 <DocScrutinizer05> http://wstaw.org/m/2014/04/09/plasma-desktopWV1775.png
Apr 09 12:01:55 <DocScrutinizer05> hooray to upgrades, always lots of fun. with KDE4.8.??? it didn't act that silly
Apr 09 12:02:50 <DocScrutinizer05> but $me thinks "I should upgrade from version 12.3 to version 13.1 of my distro" - what an idiocy
Apr 09 12:04:24 <DocScrutinizer05> anybody already on KDE4.12 ? willing to test? or maybe even somebody to confirm for KDE4.11.5?
Apr 09 12:05:45 <Luke-Jr> confirm what?
Apr 09 12:06:00 <DocScrutinizer05> bug in KDE
Apr 09 12:06:08 <DocScrutinizer05> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=311467
Apr 09 12:06:10 <povbot> 04Bug 311467: was not found.
Apr 09 12:06:54 <Luke-Jr> I don't experience it in KDE 4.11.5
Apr 09 12:07:02 <Luke-Jr> tested by running kteatime in Konsole
Apr 09 12:07:10 <Luke-Jr> kteatime starts in the systray only; but focus remains in konsole
Apr 09 12:07:25 <DocScrutinizer05> are you sure you have device notifier set to "auto" so it vanishes when no device plugged to USB?
Apr 09 12:07:52 <Luke-Jr> oh, is it specific to that program.. no?
Apr 09 12:07:55 <DocScrutinizer05> hmm, kteatime, konsole. lemme try
Apr 09 12:08:06 <Luke-Jr> I don't think I even have device notifier, as that requires some silly glib dependency
Apr 09 12:08:06 <raccoon_> isnt teatime a systray applet?
Apr 09 12:08:21 <raccoon_> shouldnt do much more than that i think
Apr 09 12:08:54 <DocScrutinizer05> sorry, kteatime not available on my system
Apr 09 12:08:58 <Luke-Jr> O.o
Apr 09 12:09:22 <Luke-Jr> dunno what I'd do without it XD
Apr 09 12:09:38 <Luke-Jr> probably one of my top 5 GUI apps
Apr 09 12:10:36 * DocScrutinizer05 fires up yast
Apr 09 12:13:27 <Maxdamantus> Did you have to configure something to make your font hinted and not subpixel-antialiased?
Apr 09 12:14:56 <DocScrutinizer05> WOW WOOOOW YEEEHAAA! WOW! \po/ :-D
Apr 09 12:15:01 * Maxdamantus recently forced all Latin text to use either DejaVu Sans or DejaVu Sans Mono, after Wikipedia started using a non-hinted (or badly hinted, dunno) font by default.
Apr 09 12:15:17 <DocScrutinizer05> for some reason my window rules fixed it with some delay only
Apr 09 12:15:57 * kolp can't confirm the bug for KDE 4.11.5 on buntkuh.
Apr 09 12:18:42 <DocScrutinizer05> so http://wstaw.org/m/2014/04/09/plasma-desktopWV1775.png  http://wstaw.org/m/2014/04/09/plasma-desktopOF1775.png worked
Apr 09 12:19:04 <DocScrutinizer05> it's pretty weird
Apr 09 12:20:29 <DocScrutinizer05> *some* bug is in there. Maybe I even find out *which one*
Apr 09 12:41:22 <DocScrutinizer05> hmm, disabling the windows rule brings back the bug
Apr 09 13:02:20 <DocScrutinizer51> thanks infobot
Apr 09 20:23:25 <DocScrutinizer05> BWAHAHAHA  http://blog.existentialize.com/diagnosis-of-the-openssl-heartbleed-bug.html
Apr 09 20:29:14 <DocScrutinizer05> seggelmann disaster. BTW maemo had PFS enabled on all SSL, afaik
Apr 09 20:30:06 <DocScrutinizer05> at least I seem to recall making sure it has
Apr 09 20:39:45 <kaikun97> !seen htheb
Apr 09 20:50:20 <DocScrutinizer05> tzzz
Apr 09 20:51:04 <DocScrutinizer05> ~seen htheb
Apr 09 20:51:13 <infobot> htheb <57d3a04c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.211.160.76> was last seen on IRC in channel #harmattan, 24d 21h 5m 58s ago, saying: 'grrr'.
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