**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Apr 16 02:59:58 2014 Apr 16 08:27:49 Anybody noticed an issue with the A-GPS again, both my N900's with SIM's fail to get a lock, happened on Sunday IIRC. Apr 16 08:28:49 google supl selected? Apr 16 08:29:39 yep, checked all that. Apr 16 08:30:18 I think I last used gps about a week ago or so, didn't notice anything peculiar then Apr 16 08:32:17 As I say A-GPS is on most of time for me so I noticed when it stopped. Apr 16 08:32:53 FYI it has to be supl.nokia.com Apr 16 08:33:18 but I have tested both with no luck Apr 16 08:54:57 freemangordon: ^^^ IIRC you did the fix last time? If anyone can confirm it's not just me. Apr 16 10:53:14 sixwheeledbeast: agps on my n900 has been failing for some time now Apr 16 10:53:31 sixwheeledbeast: if you find out anything, please share Apr 16 11:58:53 Hey guys, I'm looking for a way to specify the access point mac address which i try to connect , it seems the location of these info is via gconf is : /var/lib/gconf/system/osso/connectivity/IAP/###..###/ Apr 16 11:59:08 is there any way to specify the mac address ? Apr 16 13:52:19 aiui gconf isn't meant to get used via editing files Apr 16 13:53:54 gconftool -R /|grep connectivity/IAP; is the way to go Apr 16 13:54:37 or "gconftool -R /system/osso/connectivity/IAP" Apr 16 14:01:08 but I don't know of any way to specify MAC addr of AP Apr 16 14:02:04 AIUI WLAN isn't even meant to do anything like that. Rather it's meant to roam between several AP with same SSID Apr 16 15:16:08 on a sidenote: Nokia just informs about their expected finalization of the sale of "Devices & Services" to M$ in April. I guess that's the definitive dead end for any maemo related negotiations with Nokia Apr 16 15:22:29 good luck for anybody trying to negotiate anything maemo related with M$ Apr 16 15:22:40 =) Apr 16 15:22:46 not really Apr 16 15:23:07 I find it sad that M$ bought Nokia Apr 16 15:26:43 on the bright side: not even the most loyal (soon ex-)nokian needs to worry about negative impact to his employer of him disclosing all sourcecodes Apr 16 15:28:41 well, one can dream :-). Apr 16 15:28:50 I doubt anybody would dare to try and sue M$ for any copyright violations or breaking contracts that Nokia might have done Apr 16 15:29:12 and for sure M$ is not liable for any of that Apr 16 15:29:39 security issues in flasher? who cares! Apr 16 15:30:32 maemo at large? who cares! Apr 16 15:30:59 yes, they won't care as it brings no money (any more). Apr 16 15:31:37 unless somebody in M$ smells a monetization plan Apr 16 15:32:38 hard to come up with a sensible story what such plan would look like... but who knows Apr 16 15:33:11 luckily >95% of maemo are FOSS Apr 16 15:33:32 not even M$ has any means to revert that Apr 16 15:34:16 Yeah Apr 16 15:35:13 maybe M$ calls their next crappy phone OS "maemo" X-P Apr 16 15:36:06 I suggest we switch to "the-true-and-only-maemo" for name then Apr 16 15:36:46 will be interesting to watch a few whois results during the next months Apr 16 15:39:16 Domain Name:MAEMO.ORG Apr 16 15:39:17 Registrant ID:mmr-31461 Apr 16 15:39:19 Registrant Name:Nokia Corporation Apr 16 15:39:20 Updated Date: 2014-01-07T10:24:55Z Apr 16 15:39:22 Registry Expiry Date: 2015-02-07T16:26:32Z Apr 16 15:40:58 Admin ID:mmr-31462 Apr 16 15:41:00 Admin Name:Nokia dnsauthority Apr 16 15:41:11 Tech ID:mmr-31463 Apr 16 15:41:12 Tech Name:Nokia Hostmaster Apr 16 15:43:42 possible activities to be seen: a) nothing (until january next year, when domain either expires or gets renewed or whatever) b) transfer to HiFo c) transfer to M$ d) deletion Apr 16 15:44:43 HiFo? Apr 16 15:44:52 given all previous examples, I'd bet on a) Apr 16 15:44:57 ~hifo Apr 16 15:45:07 =) Apr 16 15:45:07 omg Apr 16 15:45:31 It'll probably redirect to the WP page Apr 16 15:45:46 hmm? Apr 16 15:46:10 ~listvalues hildon Apr 16 15:46:13 Factoid search of 'hildon' by value (6): hildon-extras ;; #maemo mhd ;; speedyham ;; desktop-lock ;; #maemo ham ;; transitions.ini. Apr 16 15:46:33 transferred to MS and then redirected to the WP page Apr 16 15:46:56 what's "WP page"? Apr 16 15:47:14 http://www.windowsphone.com/ Apr 16 15:47:35 Ouch Apr 16 15:47:37 mhm Apr 16 15:47:44 That'd be an Epic Fail Apr 16 17:18:43 hi maemonians! I'd need a betatester (or two) for http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/usr/local/sbin/enable-catalogs Apr 16 17:19:48 how to use: enable-catalogs save myDefaultCatalogSettings Apr 16 17:20:02 Apr 16 17:20:21 enable-catalogs save mySpecialSettings Apr 16 17:20:39 Apr 16 17:20:52 Apr 16 17:21:08 enable-catalogs myDefaultCatalogSettings Apr 16 17:21:32 see enable-catalogs -h for details Apr 16 17:22:42 I did cursory tests, but as usual: no warranty explicit or implied, for fitness for any purpose, damage, eaten cats... Apr 16 17:29:52 ooh, as you might have guessed, you should copy the file to somewhere in your $PATH (maybe actually /usr/local/sbin/, if that's part of $PATH), you should chmod +x it, and you will *need root* to execute it Apr 16 17:50:21 freemangordon, still no Yappari 1.1.46 armel in Extras :( Apr 16 17:57:56 maemo extras are down? Apr 16 17:58:12 nothing is getting downloaded Apr 16 17:59:35 DocScrutinizer05: why are you creating hardlinks? Apr 16 18:00:02 That's total nonsense Apr 16 18:00:49 > enable-catalogs save myDefaultCatalogSettings Apr 16 18:00:56 > Apr 16 18:01:18 After that all of the changes will appear in myDefaultCatalogSettings as well Apr 16 18:05:31 hxka: errrr Apr 16 18:06:09 usually any change in file content *should* result in unlinking and creating a new file of same name Apr 16 18:07:44 unless the process opened the existing file for modification, which is not what I'd expect HAM to do Apr 16 18:08:31 I might be wrong, that's why I ask for testers' review ;-) Apr 16 18:10:36 if the process editing the file was a hexeditor then I'd agree Apr 16 18:11:59 https://privatepaste.com/b74327317c Apr 16 18:13:29 ok, I owe you one :-D Apr 16 18:14:02 * DocScrutinizer05 removes a few "l" Apr 16 18:14:42 hxka: many thanks! Apr 16 18:15:05 You're welcome :) Apr 16 18:16:13 how's the rest? like 'list' and 'delete' ? Apr 16 18:16:52 (ok, it's so trivial it really better be right) Apr 16 18:17:53 Ha-ha! I don't like that delete doen't check whether the directoy exists before trying to remove it, but that's not critical Apr 16 18:18:36 yeah, I been lazy. pondered check but thought "meh!" Apr 16 18:18:43 Same with restoring Apr 16 18:19:34 prolly I'll set up the script so it exits on error, and implement a trap for error handling and diagnostic output Apr 16 18:20:14 And there is not much point in using checkname function anywhere except saving Apr 16 18:20:29 really? Apr 16 18:20:33 ;-) Apr 16 18:21:09 enable catalogs '; rm -rf /' Apr 16 18:21:25 this sort of stuff Apr 16 18:22:08 enable-catalogs delete ../../../* Apr 16 18:23:12 sure I could use basename or whatever Apr 16 18:24:09 Second point is valid Apr 16 18:24:55 As for the first one, variables should be put in doublequotes Apr 16 18:25:01 yep Apr 16 18:25:30 One of the reasons I hate sh Apr 16 18:25:45 guess I missed to consistently do that Apr 16 18:25:56 It provides so many ways to shoot oneself in the foot Apr 16 18:26:00 sure, sh has its issues Apr 16 18:26:25 but one advantage: it's ubiquitous Apr 16 18:26:43 So is tooth decay. Apr 16 18:26:48 (you can argue binary is also ;-P) Apr 16 18:27:44 no sarcastic comments re main() ? ;) Apr 16 18:28:35 * DocScrutinizer05 makes mental note to test the script under messybox too Apr 16 18:30:20 actually it's a POC, that I just had to save to safely disconnect from my wlan ssh session ;-) Apr 16 18:30:49 since I'm going afk, RL calling Apr 16 18:32:57 (main) a nice way of my own to make sure at least the syntax of whole script is correct Apr 16 18:35:07 IroN900:/etc/enable-catalogs# enable-catalogs --help Apr 16 18:35:09 /usr/local/sbin/enable-catalogs: line 41: syntax error: ")" unexpected (expecting ";;") Apr 16 18:41:49 updated version in http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/usr/local/sbin/enable-catalogs Apr 16 18:42:18 bbl Apr 16 18:45:32 I just wonder if I should already add an `apt-get update` at end of restore section Apr 16 18:45:45 prolly sucks Apr 16 19:23:55 http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/session-log_enable-catalogs_README.txt Apr 16 19:52:37 weird how similar http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-devel_free_armel/dontpanic/1.0/ looks to http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/bootvideo-DONTPANIC/ Apr 16 19:54:23 took him 9 months to create a package from my stuff, and yet no credits anywhere? Apr 16 19:55:20 well, "my" stuff, since I can't recall who been the one who rendered it. Maybe it's been him Apr 16 20:30:59 http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75343 Apr 16 21:53:23 TTilus: It's decided to start working again this evening. I haven't changed anything. I will keep an eye on it for now hasn't been working for ~2 days. Apr 16 21:55:26 strange stuff happening with AGPS Apr 16 21:55:56 what is it this time, did nokia's servers start telling everyone we live on the moon Apr 16 22:02:48 prolly sixwheeledbeast's AGPS got bogus data from GSM so it never recovered from that, while it lasts Apr 16 22:03:17 >>...hasn't been working for ~2 days.<< Apr 16 22:03:36 sixwheeledbeast: you should've tested with SIM removed Apr 16 22:03:52 On two separate N900's ... Apr 16 22:04:02 same SIM? same carrier? Apr 16 22:04:14 different sim different carrier Apr 16 22:04:24 hmmm, then it's sth different Apr 16 22:04:42 then prolly the supl server been same on both? Apr 16 22:05:13 only nokia works now but tested both at the time Apr 16 22:05:19 or your local GPS signal got jammed, by whatever Apr 16 22:05:24 both being nokia and google Apr 16 22:06:59 I have moved between different locations, but that is a possibly Apr 16 22:07:15 well, there's hardly a magic hidden channel that tells two N900 to stop GPS operation, except carrier and supl server Apr 16 22:09:00 GPS needs/uses: *- hardware; *- supl; *- GSM-carrier; *- GPS signal Apr 16 22:09:08 I guess that's it. Apr 16 22:09:54 AGPS that is. GPS only uses hardware and GPS signal Apr 16 22:10:44 * nox- just fixed my printer's clock that was 1 hr into the future, might be some wrong/old tz data? Apr 16 22:11:10 so unless there's been a common timebomb in N900 GPS realted software, I don't see any way how two N900 could sync to stop GPS, unless it's the GPS signal itself that's garbled Apr 16 22:11:32 or wrong timezone? Apr 16 22:11:32 OOOOH! YES! :-P Apr 16 22:11:51 AGPS is very very prone to incorrect RTC time on board Apr 16 22:12:16 age old known (d)effect Apr 16 22:12:33 sixwheeledbeast: ^^^ Apr 16 22:12:37 gps recorder sets click from gps, once you get a fix... Apr 16 22:13:09 yeah, once you get a fix. But what you gonna do when you need correct tme to get a fix? ;-D Apr 16 22:13:14 hehe Apr 16 22:13:24 ntp? Apr 16 22:14:10 sixwheeledbeast: ^^^ Apr 16 22:14:35 time and tz are fine Apr 16 22:14:51 dang, whould've made a good explanation Apr 16 22:14:58 hm Apr 16 22:17:15 you didn't by any accident have another GPS receiver around that you used to check GPS availability? Apr 16 22:18:34 no this was what I was about to do when I noticed a fix Apr 16 22:23:57 RTLSDR FTW Apr 16 22:24:32 though, the S/N of GPS signal is really too low to check for jammers with RTL Apr 16 22:25:57 unrelated off-topic sidenote: 5,1G /home/jr/.kde4/share/apps/nepomuk/repository/main/data/virtuosobackend Apr 16 22:27:48 * DocScrutinizer05 wonders which apprentice was allowed to implement his bizarre ideas there Apr 16 22:29:10 sounds like "school of tracker", particularly the class which got tought to store emails in a sqlite db **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Apr 17 02:59:58 2014