**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Apr 27 03:00:01 2014 Apr 27 08:30:06 snore...~pkg taking an age to load... Apr 27 10:05:11 anybody know how to turn the screen on via vnc when it goes blank? Apr 27 10:05:16 on a n900 Apr 27 10:46:39 wizbit: http://wiki.maemo.org/Phone_control#Unlock_screen_and_keys ? Apr 27 14:27:05 devdraw from plan9port has the input problem, though it already seems to do the stuff in the xev patch. Apr 27 14:27:14 * Maxdamantus wonders what the problem is exactly. Apr 27 15:05:55 * DocScrutinizer05 wonders what's devdraw from plan9port Apr 27 15:08:27 A program that translates between libx11 and the draw file interface from Plan 9. Apr 27 15:09:08 well, it has some OS X component that presumably supports Quartz or something too, but not using that. Apr 27 15:10:45 The input actually goes to another window. Apr 27 15:47:28 o.O Apr 27 15:54:11 /30/30 Apr 27 15:54:13 oops Apr 27 19:16:40 merlin1991: ping Apr 27 19:21:41 merlin1991: it seems the package slang2 has caused extras queue manager to stuck. that packages is already in the SDK repo, so I guess that is the reason for not being promoted to extras Apr 27 19:21:54 merlin1991: see http://maemo.org/packages/view/libslang2/ Apr 27 19:22:50 I think we should "promote" it by hand and remove it from the "incoming" folder, but it is up to you to decide/do it Apr 27 19:22:54 :) Apr 27 19:23:25 merlin1991: that is on stage at maemo dot org Apr 27 19:28:30 merlin1991: anyway, I'll move slang2 packages to a temp folder to allow the queue to run until you decide what to be done Apr 27 19:57:18 rationale: any SDK package should get provided by Nokia maemo base repos, not by maemo-extras Apr 27 19:57:36 seems Nokia failed on that for libslang Apr 27 19:58:47 freemangordon: what's the exact rule in autobuilder to stop the promotion? does it check against nokia base repos (correct) or against maemo-SDK repo (basically incorrect)? Apr 27 19:59:03 no idea, should check Apr 27 20:12:55 DocScrutinizer05: i know my N900 battery is old now, but what would cause bq27200 to report that the capacity of the battery is 2056mAh? Apr 27 20:14:38 and when charging, somewhere after 50%, i will jump to 100% Apr 27 20:24:30 Sicelo: reset to EEPROM values, which happens basically on every battery swap Apr 27 20:26:08 IroN900:~# bq27k-detail2|grep -A 1 ILMD Apr 27 20:26:09 0x76: 45 ILMD Initial Last Measured Discharge High Byte 914 µVh (1) R/W Apr 27 20:26:10 *0x100 * 3.57 / 20 = 2062 mAh fabcoded cell capacity Apr 27 20:27:57 Sicelo: something you're using to read out that value resp the "0x13 - 0x12: 6738 LMD Last Measured Discharge" derived from it on chip reset is using slightly different math than my script does Apr 27 20:28:16 thus 2056mAh vs 2062 mAh Apr 27 20:29:08 the raw value is a byte "45" Apr 27 20:30:04 ~45 * 0x100 * 3.57 / 20 Apr 27 20:30:22 grrr Apr 27 20:30:32 ~45 * 256 * 3.57 / 20 Apr 27 20:30:33 2056.32 Apr 27 20:30:34 sorry, yes, it shows 2062 Apr 27 20:30:58 this is even with removing and re-inserting battery Apr 27 20:31:21 yes, exactly when removing and re-inserting battery Apr 27 20:31:34 which does the chip reset Apr 27 20:31:47 ah, lol. i'm not reading correctly. i get you now Apr 27 20:36:54 I wonder wtf makes bash think this value was 2062 Apr 27 20:38:11 oooh I used another formula internally Apr 27 20:38:25 bash can't do fraction math Apr 27 20:38:56 one more thing .. when charging from completely empty, the LED will not be steady amber at first, but very faint 'beeps' Apr 27 20:39:30 what's the best way for copying the software of one n900 to another one? I have 0xFFFF here, but looks like it's only able to write but not read and create a fiasco image via usb Apr 27 20:39:44 echo " 0x76: `pv 0x76`" " ILMD Initial Last Measured Discharge High Byte 914 µVh (1) R/W" Apr 27 20:39:45 echo " *0x100 * 3.57 / 20 = " $(( `pv 0x76 0x00` * 179 / 1000)) "mAh fabcoded cell capacity" Apr 27 20:40:48 T_X: i would try backupmenu.. as long as you ensure both N900 are running same kernel version Apr 27 20:40:59 is there some live image offering 0xFFFF directly on the device and an ssh or telnet console? Apr 27 20:41:12 ouch!!!! Apr 27 20:41:29 `pv 0x76 0x00` is as wrong as it might get Apr 27 20:42:05 Sicelo: beeps? Apr 27 20:42:20 blinks? Apr 27 20:42:33 yes, (english) Apr 27 20:42:38 blinks Apr 27 20:42:39 Sicelo: they are probably not. the one n900 is a stock one afaik (the one I want to copy to). the other has u-boot, an additional power kernel and backupmenu (the one I want to copy from) Apr 27 20:43:10 Sicelo: then it wasn't THAT empty to cause emergency charging Apr 27 20:43:34 or you got a charger that's really weird, or a battery that's almost totally broken Apr 27 20:43:56 particularly if LED really blinks on/off instead of fading in and out Apr 27 20:44:15 yes, blinks on off, and it's very faint Apr 27 20:44:50 T_X: works Apr 27 20:45:00 just install uBoot again on target Apr 27 20:45:30 Sicelo: very short dim flashes? Apr 27 20:45:35 yes Apr 27 20:45:47 error message from charger chip bq24150 Apr 27 20:46:14 ok. what does it signify? Apr 27 20:46:36 can mean a lot, from power-not-good on USB (you see one single such flash on removing USB charger plug), to battery-not-detected Apr 27 20:47:27 maybe I'm a little too much of a perfectionist now, but would have prefered doing a 1:1 copy Apr 27 20:47:31 battery detection works by probing for 0V and then checking for instant high voltage (4V or whatever) when charger starts charging Apr 27 20:47:56 T_X: this is as 1:1 as it gets Apr 27 20:48:09 you can't copy kernel, at least not simple Apr 27 20:48:29 kernel needs flashing, and uBoot basically *is* a "kernel" Apr 27 20:48:43 i'm tempted to reopen the device, and solder the 4 or 5 USB pins. i did not do this before, but only soldered the port in place, because on pc, everything works as it should. Apr 27 20:48:45 it goes to NAND partition "kernel" Apr 27 20:49:03 Sicelo: oooh, that explains a lot Apr 27 20:49:14 :) Apr 27 20:50:03 it is just that i don't understand how the device can work flawlessly with pc (both charging and data transfer), but have such problems with charging Apr 27 20:50:28 Sicelo: 500 vs 1200 mA? Apr 27 20:51:08 yep Apr 27 20:51:20 for example Apr 27 20:51:36 Sicelo: what is the charger? Apr 27 20:51:45 the original one Apr 27 20:52:06 the "parasitic" series resistance in VBUS might simply be too high to provide the minimum of 4.5V at 900mA Apr 27 20:52:07 i will do this 'surgery' wednesday, and see what happens Apr 27 20:52:47 Sicelo: use how air reflow tool if by any means available Apr 27 20:53:42 it's pretty "impossible" to solder the 5 pins of a soldered-down USB, without doing major mech surgery on the device Apr 27 20:54:02 with soldering iron Apr 27 20:54:14 hot air otoh is easy peasy Apr 27 20:54:37 just blow hot air into the gap until solder reflows Apr 27 20:54:51 which usually magically will fix any loose pins Apr 27 20:55:06 i don't have access to this :( Apr 27 20:56:00 Sicelo: a gas iron? usually you can use it like that Apr 27 20:56:09 visit an arbitrary phonbe repair shop, they should Apr 27 20:57:12 i'll check Apr 27 20:57:31 then ... did you finally check the receptacle's and plugs' contacts springs? Apr 27 20:57:58 there are few places here which do that kind of thing. once it comes to that level, you're generally advised to get a new phone Apr 27 20:58:04 I've seen debris on them, or even bent ones, more than once Apr 27 20:58:50 for micro USB you definitely need a magnifier glass to inspect Apr 27 20:59:14 i did check DocScrutinizer05. in the end, i concluded that the jack on the N900 charger was faulty, so i cut it, and connected the 'barrel' type connector, which then goes to the nokia adapter Apr 27 20:59:32 at least this way i can charge, with the problems already mentioned Apr 27 20:59:58 Sicelo: one faulty connector usually damaged the counterpart connector too Apr 27 21:01:02 hi merlin1991 Apr 27 21:01:28 would you agree on my rationale that all SDK libs should come via nokia base repos? Apr 27 21:01:41 merlin1991: i moved a couple of packages to /home/fmg/27042014 Apr 27 21:01:57 damn you! 20140427 Apr 27 21:02:09 ;-) Apr 27 21:03:51 dammit, we're in europe and I am in bulgaria :P Apr 27 21:04:23 ISO Apr 27 21:04:45 well, almost Apr 27 21:05:11 ~date Apr 27 21:05:12 It is now 2014.04.27 21:05:11 GMT Apr 27 21:05:28 sooo close Apr 27 21:05:34 s/./-/ Apr 27 21:09:07 ~wiki Iso8601 Apr 27 21:09:10 At http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iso8601 (URL), Wikipedia explains: "'ISO 8601' "Data elements and interchange formats – Information interchange – Representation of dates and times" is an international standard covering the exchange of date and time-related data. It was issued by the International Organization for Standardization (ISO) and was first published in 1988. The purpose of this standard is to provide an unambiguous and well-defined method ... Apr 27 21:09:50 ~iso 8601 Apr 27 21:09:56 ~iso8601 Apr 27 21:09:57 hm this libslang2 is foobar Apr 27 21:11:03 anyway >>Date and time values are ordered from the most to the least significant: year, month (or week), day, hour, minute, second, and fraction of second. The lexicographical order of the representation thus corresponds to chronological order, except for date representations involving negative years. This allows dates to be naturally sorted by, for example, file systems.<< Apr 27 21:11:13 merlin1991: hmm? Apr 27 21:13:44 looks like parts of downloads.maemo.nokia.com are offline (apt-get update fails for one of the 2 repos there) Apr 27 21:17:01 merlin1991: WFM Apr 27 21:18:10 freemangordon: true Apr 27 21:18:22 my apt foo isn't was it was anymore Apr 27 21:19:01 shame on you Apr 27 21:19:39 seems like harm had spoiled you :) Apr 27 21:19:46 I've been knee deep in enterprise soap webservies (and SAP) for the past month, that can do bad things to a human being Apr 27 21:20:00 oh Apr 27 21:22:12 merlin1991: so, what do you mean by saying that libslang2 is foobar? Apr 27 21:22:30 that I'm still looking into it :) Apr 27 21:22:47 * merlin1991 wonder what sense the freaking "tools" repo made at any point Apr 27 21:22:56 ((parts of downloads.maemo.nokia.com are offline)) wouldn't come by surprise though, eh? Apr 27 21:23:20 not like we just discussed exactly that in admin channel Apr 27 21:23:43 its on merlin1991's side this time :) Apr 27 21:24:04 not like I mentioned it a few days ago already, when Nokia announced the sale to M$ got finalized Apr 27 21:24:44 not like I'm asking what's HiFo's *real* progress on the issue since Dec 2013 Apr 27 21:26:26 not that the whole war in maemo organizational entities during last few months had anything to do with all that Apr 27 21:27:35 honestly, what's HiFo's plans when it comes to this? Apr 27 21:28:59 hmm, dont we at least have a mirror somewhere ? Apr 27 21:29:12 ooh wait, parts of maemo.nokia.com *ARE* down since almost a year, or longer. But who needs flasher, or FIASCO images, or scratchbox, or madde? Apr 27 21:29:41 bencoh: we once had, until HiFo pissed those who ran it Apr 27 21:30:53 are the repos still working or are they down too ? Apr 27 21:31:26 for now they are still working. May change any minute now Apr 27 21:32:04 unlike Nokia M$ has no scruple to shit them down without any prior notice Apr 27 21:32:10 time to wget -np -r ? Apr 27 21:32:14 shut, but same thing Apr 27 21:33:03 hmm well, cant wget -np -r since we have no index ... need to parse Release/Packages Apr 27 21:33:31 yeah, I know. I've seen a few guys doing all that for community Apr 27 21:33:39 more than a year ago Apr 27 21:34:23 community could run a public rsync to allow people to mirror stuff easily Apr 27 21:34:54 ask HiFo what they think about it Apr 27 21:35:05 downloads.nokia shouldnt change anyway so wget-ing once and for all is enough Apr 27 21:35:21 sure Apr 27 21:35:21 (most of the stuff is non-redistributable, but meh, who cares ... at least not me :p) Apr 27 21:35:41 but yeah, all this is sad Apr 27 21:35:43 maybe not you, maybe not even Nokia, but for sure HiFo Apr 27 21:36:02 hmpf Apr 27 21:36:14 so much that they go after you to tell you that it's detrimental to their negotiations with nokia Apr 27 21:36:16 do they have rights on this stuff ? Apr 27 21:36:27 no Apr 27 21:36:29 freemangordon: I say manually promote Apr 27 21:36:45 it's 1:1 the package from the tools repo and it is required by some stuff ... Apr 27 21:36:48 merlin1991: I suggested that Apr 27 21:37:10 click on "promote package" in web admin interface Apr 27 21:37:10 DocScrutinizer05: sure, but it is merlin1991 to approve it :) Apr 27 21:37:19 won;t work Apr 27 21:37:35 one have to manually copy it to repos Apr 27 21:38:02 I'm afraid it will vanish next time midgard mess kicks in Apr 27 21:38:09 me too :) Apr 27 21:38:45 and we have to move it into extras-testing aswell Apr 27 21:38:53 otherwise mc can't be promoted all the way up Apr 27 21:40:36 :nod: Apr 27 21:41:03 so, shouldn't we rather fix the fux0red rule that forbids promotion for libslang? Apr 27 21:42:14 it's obviously not exactly to the point anyway, since it forbids a package to promote to maemo-extras despite there#s no identical package in base repositories Apr 27 21:43:09 while the only logical purpose for that rule can be: avoid packages in maemo-extras overriding base repos Apr 27 21:43:31 linslang isn't in base repos Apr 27 21:43:59 I will try to promote it by hand Apr 27 21:44:38 wouldn't it be even easier to fix the rule? Apr 27 21:46:52 no Apr 27 21:48:09 hmm, weird, looks like it should succeed now Apr 27 21:51:05 Sc0rpius: yappari 46 is in extras Apr 27 22:20:49 hmm, libslang is in extras now Apr 27 22:22:13 how long? Apr 27 22:22:28 lemme try updating mc Apr 27 22:25:36 works Apr 27 22:25:57 little question ... I guess rep.maemo.org only provides redistributable stuff from download.maemo.nokia.com ? Apr 27 22:28:13 no, maemo.org provides _no_ stuff from download.maemo.nokia.com Apr 27 22:28:30 what is in nokia-binaries then ? Apr 27 22:28:38 where does it come from ? Apr 27 22:28:45 where are nokia-binaries on maemo.org? Apr 27 22:28:46 nokia with explicit permission ? Apr 27 22:29:01 http://repository.maemo.org/ maemo5.0/4bc37c7c77ebe90177c050b805a8dc79 nokia-binaries Apr 27 22:30:20 nfc Apr 27 22:31:29 :D Apr 27 22:31:33 http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_nokia-applications_explicit_armel/nokia-binaries/5.0+1/ doesn't point to a .deb Apr 27 22:32:02 looks kinda like a metapackage Apr 27 22:32:35 errr Apr 27 22:32:37 there are a lot of .deb there Apr 27 22:32:38 >>Meta package for non-free Maemo SDK packages.<< Apr 27 22:33:28 hmm Apr 27 22:37:05 this is for SDK, and aiui not copyrighted by Nokia in a way so we'd need any allowance to distribute it Apr 27 22:38:11 for sdk ? Apr 27 22:39:39 that's what the writing says, yes Apr 27 22:48:13 in the meanwhile http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras_free_armel/libslang2/2.0.6-4osso1+r1/ Apr 27 23:00:22 oh fuck is this great Apr 27 23:00:27 i just downloaded maelophone Apr 27 23:00:36 and it worked on my desktop after replacing the path names Apr 27 23:01:28 is this great Apr 27 23:06:30 maelophone? Apr 27 23:07:20 * nox- found http://my-maemo.com/software/applications.php?fldAuto=1482&faq=34 Apr 27 23:10:25 DocScrutinizer05 this is so great :3 Apr 27 23:10:31 http://daten.dieweltistgarnichtso.net/video/screencasts/maelophone-not-the-end-of-the-world.ogv Apr 27 23:11:07 so is there a comprehensive guide how to create a debian package from a maemo package or vice versa? Apr 27 23:11:16 i know a bit (not too much) about debian packages. Apr 27 23:11:23 aaah :-D Apr 27 23:11:57 http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Developer_Guide Apr 27 23:12:51 DocScrutinizer05 i have a pygame synthesizer application Apr 27 23:12:54 porting it would be great Apr 27 23:12:58 it uses forth like synthx Apr 27 23:13:09 but it is not touch-able Apr 27 23:13:17 i have to rectify that Apr 27 23:13:19 I don't think there's a debian->maemo package converter, or a "howto package for maemo, for debian profi packagers" Apr 27 23:13:47 here watch http://daten.dieweltistgarnichtso.net/video/screencasts/glitched-tripster.ogv Apr 27 23:13:59 shouldnt be much more than a few sed on debian rules and a few sb calls though ? Apr 27 23:14:03 the code in the right space is executed on a virtual machine 8000times a second Apr 27 23:14:17 left rectangle shows the memory of said machine Apr 27 23:14:27 one pixel = one 32 bit uint Apr 27 23:14:40 first 12 bit hue, next 12 bit saturation, last 8 bit value. Apr 27 23:14:44 so you can see what is going on Apr 27 23:15:00 http://wiki.maemo.org/Packaging ? Apr 27 23:15:09 pulseaudio random issue with wrong audio routing of gsm calls: voice-hw-sink-input.c: Master sink "sink.hw0" not found Apr 27 23:15:21 this shows something how the stack works http://daten.dieweltistgarnichtso.net/video/glitched-stack.ogv Apr 27 23:15:22 what the heck? nice psychedelic stuff Apr 27 23:16:30 xes: outch Apr 27 23:18:59 ..already checked every related refence in tmo without obtain a working solution Apr 27 23:19:40 DocScrutinizer05 i did a talk at a conference about this http://news.dieweltistgarnichtso.net/talks/music-c-compiler.html Apr 27 23:19:53 pardon my accent, i know now how to say „signal“ Apr 27 23:20:07 talk is called „Making music with a C compiler” :D Apr 27 23:21:22 if you like the psychedelic stuff, watch the talk and try to code stuff using libglitch yourself. Apr 27 23:30:16 to all the kernel power users out there, kernel-power-modules ships /opt/packet-injection-modules/... but no script is the script shipped somewhere else, or do I need to place it myself? Apr 27 23:35:30 merlin1991: advanced interface switcher is working fine to load packet injection modules Apr 27 23:38:52 heh Apr 27 23:38:57 I already broke it Apr 27 23:39:07 the preferences window isn't visible anymore Apr 27 23:41:02 trying to install: http://repository.maemo.org/extras/pool/fremantle-1.3/free/f/fapman/fapman_0.7.1-1_armel.deb Apr 27 23:41:11 "Error 503 Service Unavailable" :-/ Apr 27 23:41:25 merlin1991: /usr/bin/advifsw/wlan_load1.sh Apr 27 23:41:36 hm the repo is trying to save you from a very bad mistake :D Apr 27 23:42:12 but xes have a look at that, looks like varnish is in a bit of trouble Apr 27 23:42:38 varnish isnt happy Apr 27 23:42:51 ~fapman Apr 27 23:42:52 i heard fapman is Faster Application Manager, a frontend for apt which uses own repositories catalog, and shouldn't be used to do system upgrades (like CSSU). It also does "apt-get autoremove" after every operation, by default. in short, it's deprecated Apr 27 23:42:59 merlin1991: just doing Apr 27 23:43:51 thanks Apr 28 00:10:00 merlin1991: xes: the power saving mode is per connection in fremantle WLAN Apr 28 00:10:07 afaik Apr 28 00:10:49 unlike TX power (10/100mW) which is on same tab but only a global setting Apr 28 00:12:44 mario: merlin1991: http://repository.maemo.org/extras/pool/fremantle-1.3/free/f/fapman/fapman_0.7.1-1_armel.deb should work again Apr 28 00:13:09 mario: (but it would be better avoid that deb) Apr 28 00:13:16 no, that particular .deb never realy worked ;-P Apr 28 00:14:04 ~listkeys HAM Apr 28 00:14:06 Factoid search of 'HAM' by key (15 of 174): #maemo ham ;; $150/bottle champagne ;; 2012 battle.net champion ;; bahamat ;; banhammer ;; cmd: hammerthrow (.*?) ;; cmd: hamster (.*?) ;; hamm->potato ;; hamster ;; kamehameha wave ;; muhammad ;; oldtest abraham ;; oldtest baal-hamon ;; oldtest elishama ;; oldtest hamath. Apr 28 00:14:09 dang Apr 28 00:15:04 ~speedyham Apr 28 00:15:04 extra, extra, read all about it, speedyham is http://maemo.merlin1991.at/cssu/community-devel/pool/free/h/hildon-application-manager/hildon-application-manager_2.2.73-2_armel.deb Apr 28 00:15:29 ~#maemo ham is also see ~speedyham Apr 28 00:15:30 DocScrutinizer05: okay Apr 28 00:15:36 ~ham Apr 28 00:15:36 [ham] Hildon Application Manager. Slow as molasses. Anticipate you got time for a beer or two until it finishes whatever it does, or see ~speedyham Apr 28 00:17:10 when HAM is like earth moving around sun, then speedyham is running circles around HAM like ISS around earth Apr 28 00:17:48 :-D Apr 28 00:18:32 *finally* somebody with a clue looked into HAM and fixed that mess, kicking out nonsensical busy loops doing useless stuff. Kudos freemangordon Apr 28 00:22:53 yeah :D Apr 28 00:22:57 oops Apr 28 00:31:11 freemangordon: http://privatepaste.com/6f34e4603d :-/ Apr 28 00:41:04 freemangordon: while in changelogs I see some optimizations for libpixman (shouldn't create a hard dependency on the new version for speedyham), I have nfc where from comes libglib2 version that speedyham claims to need Apr 28 00:43:11 IroN900:/home/user/MyDocs/tmp# apt-cache policy libglib2.0-0 Apr 28 00:43:12 libglib2.0-0: Installed: 2.20.3-1maemo5+0m5 Candidate: 2.24.1-1maemo1+0cssu0 Apr 28 00:43:14 Version table: 2.24.1-1maemo1+0cssu0 0 500 http://repository.maemo.org fremantle/free Packages [...] Apr 28 00:44:18 I'm not sure I wanna install a new libglib2 to my cssu-testing just to use speedyham Apr 28 00:44:57 * DocScrutinizer05 idly wonders if that lib could get installed locally to speedyham Apr 28 00:48:05 either by placing it into same dedicated dir like speedyham and hoping for ld-linux to find it there prior to global glib, or simply per ld_preload, or maybe it's just a matter of making speedyham install while ignoring those dependency conflicts that shouldn't or MUSTNOT actually cause any problem, the lib ABI is supposed to be unchanged Apr 28 00:54:37 dpkg --contents hildon-application-manager_2.2.73-2_armel.deb makes me wonder if I actually wanna dare install it Apr 28 01:10:58 errr Apr 28 01:11:48 comparing the extracted http://maemo.merlin1991.at/cssu/community-devel/pool/free/h/hildon-application-manager/hildon-application-manager_2.2.73-2_armel.deb with what I got on my cssu-testing shows no diff except in /etc/hildon-application-manager/catalogues Apr 28 01:14:18 http://privatepaste.com/36019891aa Apr 28 01:14:54 freemangordon: merlin1991: ping! ^^^? Apr 28 01:15:12 hm? Apr 28 01:15:18 ~speedyham Apr 28 01:15:19 i heard speedyham is http://maemo.merlin1991.at/cssu/community-devel/pool/free/h/hildon-application-manager/hildon-application-manager_2.2.73-2_armel.deb Apr 28 01:15:30 is not speedyham but standard snailslow ham Apr 28 01:15:46 ~factinfo speedyham Apr 28 01:15:46 speedyham -- created by DocScrutinizer05 <~saturn@openmoko/engineers/joerg> at Thu Mar 13 22:28:34 2014 (45 days); last modified at Sat Mar 15 17:52:39 2014 by DocScrutinizer05!~saturn@openmoko/engineers/joerg; it has been requested 5 times, last by DocScrutinizer05, 27s ago. Apr 28 01:16:00 please md5sum usr/libexec/apt-worker from that extract Apr 28 01:16:10 seems I got wrong info a 45 days back Apr 28 01:16:18 np Apr 28 01:16:52 IroN900:/home/user/MyDocs/tmp/speedy# md5sum ./usr/libexec/apt-worker Apr 28 01:16:54 f96dffa9c5615d5bcd704b889243fbc6 ./usr/libexec/apt-worker Apr 28 01:17:39 IroN900:/home/user/MyDocs/tmp/speedy# md5sum /usr/libexec/apt-worker Apr 28 01:17:40 f96dffa9c5615d5bcd704b889243fbc6 /usr/libexec/apt-worker Apr 28 01:18:02 note the tiny diff in the two pastes Apr 28 01:20:23 * merlin1991 got the feeling you made a mistake Apr 28 01:21:15 124054608af9baf3b92ed6ea477915f3 is the md5sum of the current cssu-testing apt-worker Apr 28 01:21:43 IroN900:/home/user/MyDocs/tmp/speedy# find . -type f -exec cmp {} /{} \; Apr 28 01:21:45 ./etc/hildon-application-manager/catalogues /./etc/hildon-application-manager/catalogues differieren: Byte 12, Zeile 1. Apr 28 01:22:18 well whatever you're comparing, your installed ham is not cssu-testing 9.1 ham Apr 28 01:22:50 http://privatepaste.com/7cf96bed8f Apr 28 01:24:52 well this is the md5sums file taken directly from within the deb for 2.2.72-5 http://privatepaste.com/ad24a2ea69 Apr 28 01:24:55 http://privatepaste.com/a962959649 Apr 28 01:25:56 so if your /usr/libexec/apt-worker is not 124054608af9baf3b92ed6ea477915f3 then your instalation does not match your dpkg status Apr 28 01:26:38 my dpkg-status? Apr 28 01:26:44 which status? Apr 28 01:26:54 that status of the dpkg database Apr 28 01:27:35 well, wtf? Apr 28 01:27:43 your device wtf did you do? Apr 28 01:28:01 http://privatepaste.com/6f34e4603d Apr 28 01:28:04 run md5sum -c /var/lib/dpkg/info/hildon-application-manager.md5sums from / Apr 28 01:28:20 that should check if your installation fits what dpkg thinks is installed Apr 28 01:31:14 FUUUCK it installed despite throwing errors Apr 28 01:31:38 http://privatepaste.com/af8c7f0d25 Apr 28 01:32:18 yep I just read your earlier paste, is says Apr 28 01:32:19 dpkg: error processing hildon-application-manager (--install): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured Apr 28 01:32:34 but configure comes after unpack ... Apr 28 01:32:54 errr aha Apr 28 01:33:03 and dpkg has no rollback Apr 28 01:33:09 :nod: Apr 28 01:33:36 so it installed a binary that has unmet dependencies, niiiice Apr 28 01:35:29 ffs, I created a backup of /usr/bin/hildon-application-manager Apr 28 01:35:38 hahahaha Apr 28 01:36:26 just install http://repository.maemo.org/community-testing/pool/fremantle/free/h/hildon-application-manager/hildon-application-manager_2.2.72-5_armel.deb if you want to roll back Apr 28 01:37:44 I wonder if that stuff ruined any of my config files Apr 28 01:37:53 sources.list etc Apr 28 01:38:09 but then, I can restore those now very easily ;-) \o/ Apr 28 01:38:16 thanks enable-catalogs Apr 28 01:38:44 speedyHAM works! :-D FREAKING FAAAAAAAAAAST! Apr 28 01:42:45 of course it messed up my sources.list or whatever Apr 28 01:45:21 but I actually changed catalogs in HAM, enabled extras-devel and disabled extras-testing, HAM did download and update all the enabled catalogs, then I switched from "install" to "update2 when it agan updated all catalogs and then showed me 4 updates available. All in the 4 min from post two up till one up Apr 28 01:46:23 that's so incredibly fast you couldn't belive it even when seeing it with your own eyes Apr 28 01:46:41 particularly when you used stock HAM before Apr 28 01:47:20 merlin1991: thanks! Apr 28 01:48:13 I wonder how fast it could get when swotching to maemo-extras-devel-lite now Apr 28 01:48:23 switching Apr 28 01:48:27 :-D Apr 28 01:49:12 we probably should integrate some sleep() to allow users to think about what they want to install and if they really want to do tha ;-) Apr 28 01:51:52 that's a really nice experience for today Apr 28 02:04:31 freemangordon: I owe you an evening with booze on me, for speedyham Apr 28 02:13:54 really wow Apr 28 02:15:15 with -devel-light it got again a noticeable kick faster Apr 28 02:16:06 so awesome you could start to *love* HAM **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Apr 28 02:59:59 2014