**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Apr 29 02:59:58 2014 Apr 29 05:36:34 file manager on my nokia n900 says no files/folders , I see that /dev/mmcblk0p1 is not mounted in x-terminal, if I try to mount it it says "mount: mounting /dev/mmcblk0p1on /home/user/MyDocs failed: Invalid argument" Apr 29 05:38:05 tried "fsck -a /dev/mmcblk0p1" , ended up with "Logical sector size is zero." Apr 29 05:39:15 any ideas , please help me :) Apr 29 05:40:12 I don't need the information that were on MyDocs Apr 29 05:40:25 I just want to be able to use my memory again :( Apr 29 05:40:37 without flashing the whole formware Apr 29 05:40:52 firmware* Apr 29 05:40:58 please help me and thanks :) Apr 29 05:49:28 Mike11, how do you "try to mount" Apr 29 05:52:25 Mike11: can you mount it when it's plugged in to a computer? Apr 29 06:14:08 if i ssh into my n900, after a little bit, my dmesg fills up with: wlan0: driver reports beacon loss from AP cf1bf52c - sending probe request Apr 29 06:14:18 im running: Linux Nokia-N900 2.6.28.10-power52 #1 PREEMPT Sat Apr 6 11:59:23 UTC 2013 armv7l unknown Apr 29 06:14:32 i do have fbcon switched on Apr 29 06:16:42 andre__ , mount /dev/mmcblk0p1 Apr 29 06:16:52 Maxdamantus, no I can't Apr 29 06:17:24 I managed to get my mmcblk0p1 accessible again by reformatting it Apr 29 06:17:45 mkfs.vfat -F32 -s64 /dev/mmcblk0p1 Apr 29 06:18:56 thank you guys :) Apr 29 06:19:09 but now I have another problem please help me Apr 29 06:19:22 the size of MyDocs is now 27 GB only Apr 29 06:19:34 it used to be 30 GB on my phone Apr 29 06:19:50 Are you sure it's not 27 GiB? Apr 29 06:19:59 (which is probably about 30 GB) Apr 29 06:20:42 there are some lost blocks when I print the partition table using sfdisk -d /dev/mmcblk0 Apr 29 06:21:18 just a moment , Maxdamantus :) Apr 29 06:24:04 Maxdamantus, no it is 27 GB Apr 29 06:24:35 and there are no "lost blocks" , I was messing things up as always :( Apr 29 06:25:06 but how come, I have only 2 GB as "Memory for installable applications" Apr 29 06:26:22 Isn't that about the usual size? Apr 29 06:27:43 27 + 2 = 29 .. sounds like what I'd expect. Apr 29 06:28:01 isn't the NAND flash of about 32 GB??? Apr 29 06:28:05 since there's also swap on the mmc. Apr 29 06:28:11 Ah, yes, probably. Apr 29 06:28:16 Was thinking in GiB. Apr 29 06:28:37 is mmcblk0p3 the swap partition?? Apr 29 06:30:05 yes Apr 29 06:33:01 anyways here is the partition table of my mmcblk0p1 Apr 29 06:33:06 mmcnlk0*** Apr 29 06:33:14 mmcblk0**** Apr 29 06:33:16 # partition table of /dev/mmcblk0 Apr 29 06:33:16 unit: sectors Apr 29 06:33:16 /dev/mmcblk0p1 : start= 64, size= 56631296, Id= c Apr 29 06:33:16 /dev/mmcblk0p2 : start= 56631360, size= 4194304, Id=83 Apr 29 06:33:16 /dev/mmcblk0p3 : start= 60825664, size= 1572864, Id=82 Apr 29 06:33:17 /dev/mmcblk0p4 : start= 0, size= 0, Id= 0 Apr 29 06:35:07 but I have about 2 GB of memory for installable applications , and 27.22GB of memory for user files, when going to settings -> memory Apr 29 06:35:15 how is that?? Apr 29 06:35:55 applications go in /home/opt or something. Apr 29 06:36:14 rather than /home/user/MyDocs, which is where the 27 GB filesystem is mounted. Apr 29 06:36:40 applications usually expect to be stored on a POSIX-compatible filesystem, not something like FAT32. Apr 29 06:38:17 If you're not expecting to be using it as a mass storage device very often, you might want to scrap the FAT partition and just make a single ext2/3 one. Apr 29 06:38:59 is the block here of size 512kb ?? Apr 29 06:39:17 You could mount it on a computer using something like sshfs, either over WiFi or over g_ether (where the phone acts as a USB ethernet device) Apr 29 06:40:23 no, it'll be 512 bytes.\ Apr 29 06:41:23 i didnt realise the n900 has a micro sd slot Apr 29 06:41:55 I have another nokia n900 with exactly the same partition table, but has about 4GB of memory for installable applications , when going to settings -> memory :o Apr 29 06:42:06 what is wrong ?! Apr 29 06:42:58 Mike11: df -hT /dev/mmcblk0p2 Apr 29 06:43:28 Hm. That partition should be about 2 GiB. Apr 29 06:43:37 so the filesystem shouldn't be larger. Apr 29 06:43:57 Maybe do that on both devices. Apr 29 06:46:19 Maxdamantus sorry you were right :) Apr 29 06:46:50 both are 2 GB , but the visual bar on the settings -> memory was tricking me :) Apr 29 06:46:57 thanks for your help Maxdamantus :) Apr 29 09:18:08 The https://bugs.maemo.org/ certificate has expired Apr 29 12:25:39 intgr: they have all expired http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93003 Apr 29 12:36:12 lol the first post certainly isn't true. But whatever. Apr 29 13:26:46 * DocScrutinizer05 wishes http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93003 had rather been posted to http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=89273 Apr 29 13:27:17 good sailfish blog: http://dontbreakthesails.blogspot.de/2014/04/sailfish-silica-half-open-sourced.html Apr 29 13:29:46 intgr: we tried to get a proper cert a year ago, and failed. We went for per-VM free certs. Now Falk started a new effort to get a domain wildcard cert, but the preconditions didn't change: we still don't own maemo.org domain so it probably still isn't possible to get a wildcard cert Apr 29 13:29:48 quic android question - is there a 'simple' free way to remotely control a android phone? Apr 29 13:30:17 yes, get a good rifle Apr 29 13:30:34 remote control over distances up to 2000m Apr 29 13:30:34 lolz Apr 29 13:32:13 Android isn't even remotely controllable. Apr 29 13:35:06 ok. one of my friends has some samsung note, and they need assistance Apr 29 13:35:46 btw, my N900 is now also coming up with the no-SIM thing. :'( Apr 29 14:43:19 hmm, i guess you could get a wildcard cert from those providers that allow you to confirm by mail to admin@domain etc Apr 29 15:27:32 jaska: seems that cursory authentication is only used for non-wildcard certs Apr 29 15:28:55 usually they will send a mail to whatever shows up for admin-c or whatever in whois of the domain Apr 29 15:29:11 tech-c, dunno Apr 29 15:29:26 that's all *@nokia.com Apr 29 15:32:04 cmd: Registrant Email:dnsauthority@nokia.com Apr 29 15:32:05 cmd: Admin Email:dnsauthority@nokia.com Apr 29 15:32:07 cmd: Tech Email:hostmaster@nokia.com Apr 29 15:34:07 Sicelo: my friend also has a Note-II now (I recommended it to her), so if you ever find out how to do that remote access please let me know Apr 29 15:35:31 doc: atleast alphassl will do admin@domain or webmaster@domain Apr 29 15:37:41 also for wildcard certs? Apr 29 15:37:48 yeah Apr 29 15:37:52 atleast when i got some recently Apr 29 15:37:54 warfare: ^^^ Apr 29 15:39:29 ymmw but workedforme(tm) Apr 29 15:41:55 jaska: thanks! :-) Apr 29 17:00:49 priceless spam: >> Dear council, Have you noticed how you have become so fat and hopeless? Of course not!...<< Apr 29 17:01:35 * DocScrutinizer05 doublechecks if it's actually spam Apr 29 17:13:30 :D Apr 29 18:29:05 DocScrutinizer05: phone is working awesome, thanks for your help Apr 29 18:29:22 going to do a few more finishing touches then back it up Apr 29 18:29:42 i didnt realise the n900 can take a micro ssd card Apr 29 18:30:02 wizbit: what is micro ssd card? Apr 29 18:30:22 or it is a typo? Apr 29 18:30:54 *micro sd Apr 29 18:31:42 or maybe thats what is in use at the moment Apr 29 18:32:36 i thought maybe 32gb is built in and there is another slot for a extra card? Apr 29 18:33:15 wizbit: yes, there is uSD card slot Apr 29 18:33:35 and 32GB of built-in flash + 256MB of NAND Apr 29 18:33:42 wow :D Apr 29 18:34:01 freemangordon: would it be a good idea to use the extra one for swap? Apr 29 18:34:14 that would be very very good idea Apr 29 18:34:20 hmmm Apr 29 18:34:22 most of us do it Apr 29 18:34:26 nope Apr 29 18:34:32 what? Apr 29 18:34:50 nope what? havin swap on uSD is a good idea Apr 29 18:35:05 depends Apr 29 18:35:12 what is the maximum size card for the uSD slot? Apr 29 18:35:22 32GB, ive seen 64GB ones advertised Apr 29 18:35:22 wizbit: I am using 64GB Apr 29 18:35:26 nice Apr 29 18:35:32 most brands will work ok? Apr 29 18:35:41 should Apr 29 18:36:03 will it get auto detected at boot time? Apr 29 18:36:08 between "should" and "do" there's a huge gap here Apr 29 18:36:13 should i use vfat or ext3 Apr 29 18:36:18 up to you Apr 29 18:36:28 ext3 is superior to vfat Apr 29 18:36:44 but won't be recognized by windoze Apr 29 18:36:52 i dont use windoze :D Apr 29 18:37:00 i use sftp or ssh to transfer stuff Apr 29 18:37:10 wget Apr 29 18:37:23 wizbit: anyway, partition your uSD to have 2GB of swap partition Apr 29 18:37:29 along the other(s) Apr 29 18:37:31 ace Apr 29 18:37:34 yes, that can't hurt Apr 29 18:37:36 how much ram does a n900 have Apr 29 18:37:44 256MB Apr 29 18:37:44 though 2GB is insane Apr 29 18:37:54 512MB should be ok for swap Apr 29 18:37:59 no, it is not, because of the fragmentation Apr 29 18:38:00 double the ram size Apr 29 18:38:05 you're aware that swap eats ram, are you? Apr 29 18:38:12 nope?! Apr 29 18:38:18 i thought it does the reverse Apr 29 18:38:33 oh shit you're losing 2 more kb Apr 29 18:38:36 yes, it eats Apr 29 18:38:37 nope, it actually *needs* ram for some meta data Apr 29 18:38:50 DocScrutinizer05: the bigger the swap, the more ram? Apr 29 18:38:55 yes Apr 29 18:39:02 surely 512mb is enough Apr 29 18:39:05 sure, but fragmentation is waaay worse than 1 MB more used Apr 29 18:39:06 yes Apr 29 18:39:12 or 1GB Apr 29 18:39:17 ok ill do 1GB Apr 29 18:39:21 more than 1GB is insane for sure Apr 29 18:39:27 i think i either have 2 or 4 Apr 29 18:39:33 because i don't believe you Apr 29 18:39:35 no, it is not, as swap gets fragmented over time Apr 29 18:39:37 is the uSD slot behind the camera? Apr 29 18:39:39 and i can afford the space Apr 29 18:39:44 wizbit: next to Apr 29 18:39:47 ok Apr 29 18:39:55 time to order a micro sd card Apr 29 18:40:01 you actually can't even use the 768MB standard swap. System comes to a grinding halt when that much swap is actually needed Apr 29 18:40:01 wizbit: listen to me, make it 2 GB Apr 29 18:40:11 ok :-S Apr 29 18:40:20 DocScrutinizer05: *FRAGMENTATION* Apr 29 18:40:28 pff Apr 29 18:40:38 how much ram does swap use? Apr 29 18:40:54 mh, my server has 32gb of ram and 16 of swap Apr 29 18:40:55 for some reason Apr 29 18:41:00 about 4 bytes per 4k Apr 29 18:41:08 iirc Apr 29 18:41:28 yes, sth like 1% to 0.1% Apr 29 18:41:31 iirc Apr 29 18:41:35 http://www.amazon.co.uk/SanDisk-SDSDQU-064G-FFP-Ultra-Class-Adapter/dp/B0084DWD4Q/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1398796852&sr=8-1&keywords=micro+sd+64gb Apr 29 18:41:43 or 8 bytes per 4 k, it was a while I looked at swap subsys in the kernel Apr 29 18:41:46 2,960 good reviews Apr 29 18:41:49 i assume the bigger the swap the lesser the pro capite metadata used Apr 29 18:42:03 so for 2GB swap partition you need 200kB to 2MB of RAM to handle it Apr 29 18:42:27 sure, but that pays of as access is sequental most of the time Apr 29 18:42:51 1GB quickly becomes fragmented Apr 29 18:42:56 that's nonsense, use reswap when your swap get fragmented Apr 29 18:43:09 that's another story Apr 29 18:43:33 do i really need 64gb, might get a 32gb Apr 29 18:43:44 it is supposed to be faster Apr 29 18:43:51 is it? Apr 29 18:43:56 the 64gb one? Apr 29 18:44:01 64gb are UHS1 Apr 29 18:44:08 32 are class10 usually Apr 29 18:44:14 can the n900 make use of that? Apr 29 18:44:14 that is a poor metrics Apr 29 18:44:22 SanDisk SDSDQU-032G-U46A MicroSDHC Ultra 32 GB Class 10 UHS-I 30 MB/s with SD Adapter Apr 29 18:44:22 kerio: I use 64GB Apr 29 18:44:29 wizbit: mine is samsung Apr 29 18:44:31 i mean the uhs1 Apr 29 18:44:38 no Apr 29 18:44:55 can the neo900 make use of that? Apr 29 18:45:01 and it has random write transfer rate about 2MB/s Apr 29 18:45:08 kerio: no Apr 29 18:45:22 kerio: n900 can make it up to 16/18MB/s Apr 29 18:46:29 UHS doesn't tell you much about speed of card, particularly not in N900 Apr 29 18:47:00 even classN doesn't tell the truth Apr 29 18:47:04 sure Apr 29 18:47:22 logically, i dont want to store too much stuff on my phone, i will change my media accordingly so im gonna go for 32gb Apr 29 18:47:24 class4 cards reported to be faster than most class10 Apr 29 18:47:56 will i need to edit fstab to get the maemo to see it when it boots Apr 29 18:49:09 no Apr 29 18:49:26 it will mount even if its ext3? Apr 29 18:49:55 maemo automounts VFAT, CSSU automounts multiple partitions with virtually arbitrary fs Apr 29 18:50:07 ace Apr 29 18:50:21 maybe maemo also mounts ext3, dunno. CSSU definitely does Apr 29 18:50:53 ordered :D Apr 29 18:51:21 i found out how to stop dmesg flooding wlan messages Apr 29 18:51:40 if i login via ssh i need to do this: ssh -o ServerAliveInterval=4 Apr 29 18:52:24 wizbit: check what is the random access speed of the card you've just ordered, if it is <2MB/s think again Apr 29 18:52:58 No, Maemo doesn't mount ext3, I've seen a bug about that Apr 29 18:53:06 IroN900:/usr/sbin# df -h Apr 29 18:53:07 Dateisystem Size Used Avail Use% Eingehängt auf Apr 29 18:53:09 [... shortened] Apr 29 18:53:10 /dev/mmcblk0p2 2,0G 877M 1,1G 46% /home Apr 29 18:53:11 hxka: cssu does it Apr 29 18:53:12 /dev/mmcblk0p1 28G 21G 6,5G 77% /home/user/MyDocs Apr 29 18:53:13 /dev/mmcblk1p1 14G 11G 3,8G 74% /media/mmc1 Apr 29 18:53:15 /dev/mmcblk1p2 845M 782M 20M 98% /media/mmc1p2 Apr 29 18:53:16 IroN900:/usr/sbin# Apr 29 18:53:18 freemangordon: ive already ordered it Apr 29 18:53:38 freemangordon: yeah, and Doc mentioned that Apr 29 18:53:44 wizbit: so? can't you cancel the order it it doesn't fit your needs? Apr 29 18:53:45 SanDisk SDSDQU-032G-U46A MicroSDHC Ultra 32 GB Class 10 UHS-I 30 MB/s with SD Adapter Apr 29 18:53:55 wizbit: up to you :) Apr 29 18:54:06 is the above specs not good Apr 29 18:54:42 those specs mean basically nothing but the capacity Apr 29 18:54:46 it's prolly ok Apr 29 18:55:17 30 MB/s Apr 29 18:55:21 SanDisk is a good brand Apr 29 18:55:35 wizbit: no, this is sequental access Apr 29 18:55:39 should actually work Apr 29 18:55:46 let me check Apr 29 18:56:03 Random Read 4KB (QD=1) : 3.902 MB/s Apr 29 18:56:35 wizbit: where did you find that? Apr 29 18:56:44 and what about writes? Apr 29 18:57:48 Writing speed: 7.72 MByte/s Apr 29 18:57:53 Reading speed: 18.9 MByte/s Apr 29 18:57:59 this is sequental Apr 29 18:58:46 i cant find data on that Apr 29 18:58:51 http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1324483&d=1347568510 Apr 29 18:59:22 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31521430&postcount=564 Apr 29 18:59:40 not that good Apr 29 18:59:42 will that be too slow for swap Apr 29 18:59:51 could be better Apr 29 18:59:56 i dont care about if its slow for other stuff Apr 29 19:00:28 will it be faster than what the n900 uses for swap at the moment Apr 29 19:00:52 using whats built in Apr 29 19:02:10 freemangordon so i heard you removed 500kg heavy load out of HAM.... thumbs up! Apr 29 19:03:36 wizbit: don't bother with swap on uSD, it's a geek thing and effect is questionable Apr 29 19:03:39 will running thumb (in a month or so) speed everything up even more? Apr 29 19:03:50 CSSU-thumb Apr 29 19:03:59 yes Apr 29 19:04:12 ace :D Apr 29 19:04:18 do bother with swap on uSD Apr 29 19:04:20 cuz it's totally awesome Apr 29 19:04:41 i need to peel off the plastic on the front of the n900 as it has bubbles Apr 29 19:04:46 i bought some new screen protectors Apr 29 19:04:58 be careful! Apr 29 19:05:06 i think the glass will scratch otherwise? Apr 29 19:05:07 enter your bathroom Apr 29 19:05:14 run some hot water Apr 29 19:05:14 wizbit plastic Apr 29 19:05:19 yep Apr 29 19:05:34 or they designed so you can peel them off and replace them Apr 29 19:05:43 I never used protectors, but then I also don't carry the N900 in my pocket together with keys or gardening tools Apr 29 19:05:55 ok Apr 29 19:05:58 well mine has scratches because of my nails Apr 29 19:06:00 i scroll with my nails Apr 29 19:06:01 * RiD runs Apr 29 19:06:12 this n900 came with a protector already on it Apr 29 19:06:58 RiD: I actually made a mini-scratch with may nails - or rather with some microscopic dust that sticked there Apr 29 19:07:18 maybe those protectors make the touch screen less responsive Apr 29 19:07:25 nah Apr 29 19:07:27 possible Apr 29 19:07:46 wizbit it does... a little bit Apr 29 19:07:47 but usually they don't Apr 29 19:07:58 not much at least Apr 29 19:08:17 yeah, it's just that i you're used to using it without Apr 29 19:08:29 I recently got me matte ones which actually feel and look cool Apr 29 19:08:56 i like how with the screen protector the fingers slides better when the screen isn't 100% clean Apr 29 19:08:57 didn't use them yet though Apr 29 19:09:02 slide* Apr 29 19:09:06 keeping it with keys isnt a good idea ... mine suffered from it until I bought a protector Apr 29 19:09:14 im using opera as my browser, awesome Apr 29 19:09:22 was thinking about trying firefox n900 version Apr 29 19:09:25 i find the stock browser still the best in most cases Apr 29 19:09:44 microb best b Apr 29 19:10:09 adblock addon is kinda cool... but it hogs the poor thing Apr 29 19:10:18 i use a css thing Apr 29 19:10:24 steer clear of adblock! Apr 29 19:10:55 firefox feennec Apr 29 19:10:59 scanning the 10MB of blacklist takes longer than downloading and rendering the worst ads Apr 29 19:11:09 :] Apr 29 19:11:12 and it eats RAM like mad Apr 29 19:11:51 is there some sort of alternative? Apr 29 19:12:01 other than not visit pages full of ads lol Apr 29 19:12:16 err, you could use some etc/hosts entries for the worst crap Apr 29 19:12:30 or use a proxy that does the filtering for you offline Apr 29 19:12:30 hard to figure out what is the worst crap Apr 29 19:12:48 but maybe i could block the most common ones Apr 29 19:13:18 the 2 most common tools i will use is: browser, media player Apr 29 19:13:32 do you all use the built in media player? or are there better alternatives Apr 29 19:13:46 many prefer OM Apr 29 19:13:48 i only use rockbox Apr 29 19:13:50 OMP even Apr 29 19:13:59 well for music lol Apr 29 19:14:24 right ok Apr 29 19:14:30 http://wiki.maemo.org/Open_Media_Player Apr 29 19:14:38 the built-in player has an abysmal GUI in my book, nevertheless I use it for everything Apr 29 19:15:07 OMP pretty much copies the GUI of built-in Apr 29 19:15:43 nice ill install that and maybe test out firefox fennec Apr 29 19:15:49 after that clean it up then backup Apr 29 19:15:56 ouch! Apr 29 19:16:08 ? Apr 29 19:16:20 why not doing a backup *before* you start such experiments? Apr 29 19:16:28 or maybe before AND after Apr 29 19:16:30 DocScrutinizer05: i know, i gone past that mistake! Apr 29 19:16:36 #yolo Apr 29 19:16:42 next time when if i re-flash i will :D Apr 29 19:16:49 sudo apt-get -y upgrade #yolo Apr 29 19:17:07 huh? Apr 29 19:17:28 you only live once Apr 29 19:17:42 guess how often I reflashed my current daily device Apr 29 19:17:52 ? Apr 29 19:17:54 2x per day Apr 29 19:18:01 7 times Apr 29 19:18:04 exactly once, when I got it Apr 29 19:18:13 DocScrutinizer05: i should be ok then Apr 29 19:18:15 that been like 3 years ago Apr 29 19:18:17 ooh look at me i'm DocScrutinizer and i'm boring Apr 29 19:18:28 ^ Apr 29 19:18:49 no need to reflash since then, I got BM backups Apr 29 19:19:47 actually, lemme rethink. Make that "ZERO", since I cloned my old N900 to the new one, with BM Apr 29 19:20:48 technically you reflashed Apr 29 19:21:07 technically yes Apr 29 19:21:16 except kernel Apr 29 19:21:19 should i use the Community SSU devel repro or Maemo Extras-Devel repro for OMP? Apr 29 19:21:29 backupmenu doesn't flash anything Apr 29 19:21:34 it deletes and writes files Apr 29 19:21:55 wizbit: you SHOULD NOT use Community SSU devel repro for +anything* Apr 29 19:21:58 ~2119 Apr 29 19:21:58 The key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL NOT", "SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", "MAY", and "OPTIONAL" in this document are to be interpreted as described in RFC 2119. Apr 29 19:22:11 DocScrutinizer05: ok i havent :D Apr 29 19:22:24 i will install OMP from Maemo Extras-Devel Apr 29 19:24:53 when i activate Maemo Extras-Devel it asks to update: bash4, opera mobile and conky (what i have already installed) should i ignore those Apr 29 19:26:56 I'd say so Apr 29 19:27:18 ok Apr 29 19:27:45 so the Maemo Extras-Devel is pretty stable Apr 29 19:29:16 open media player looks the same as the built in one Apr 29 19:29:37 at least it should Apr 29 19:29:45 it is meant as a clone/remplacement Apr 29 19:30:09 oh ok Apr 29 19:31:09 should i bother testing firefox fennec.. Apr 29 19:35:08 actually i wont bother with firefox Apr 29 19:36:29 as someone here once said, fennec is "eating ram like candy" Apr 29 19:36:41 eeek Apr 29 19:36:48 opera is nice and slick Apr 29 19:37:13 I heard genuine FF works better than fennec on maemo Apr 29 19:37:20 oh Apr 29 19:37:32 one last question before i backup Apr 29 19:37:44 is there a way to delete the existing radio stations in OMP Apr 29 19:38:07 click&hold? Apr 29 19:38:20 ACE :D Apr 29 19:38:22 you star :D Apr 29 19:43:26 time to fry some burgers :D Apr 29 19:48:03 could you bring some for me too please? Apr 29 19:49:30 10 min to Thing Apr 29 19:51:14 þing Apr 29 19:51:28 freemangordon: ^^^ Apr 29 19:52:50 #maemo-meeting Apr 29 20:17:58 DocScrutinizer05: aye up :D Apr 29 20:18:39 will there one day be a maemo 6 Apr 29 20:47:42 is it worth installing this: http://wiki.maemo.org/CSSU_Features_Configuration_Editor Apr 29 21:09:05 wizbit: Maemo 6 is sort of Harmattan, Fremantle will only see CSSU updates from now on. As for CSSUfeatures if you wish to play with different settings in GUI form yes. While it's a nice application I wouldn't/don't use it. Apr 29 21:10:18 Also Extras-Devel is a minefield of "in development" packages. http://wiki.maemo.org/Extras-Devel Apr 29 22:29:23 i wonder how quake runs on a n900 Apr 29 23:04:39 wizbittest it and tell us! http://my-maemo.com/software/applications.php?fldAuto=1379&faq=35 Apr 29 23:04:51 wizbit; test it and tell us! http://my-maemo.com/software/applications.php?fldAuto=1379&faq=35 Apr 29 23:05:26 meh :) Apr 29 23:05:50 meh? :-D Apr 29 23:06:10 you tested it? Apr 29 23:08:35 no, I just ... thought about those crazy people that actually packaged it :) Apr 29 23:08:48 haha **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Apr 30 02:59:58 2014