**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jun 09 02:59:58 2014 Jun 09 10:24:11 is there any info on flashing rootfs/emmc using debug pads on n900 under battery? Jun 09 10:33:15 is your USB broken? Jun 09 10:33:23 im not sure yet Jun 09 10:33:41 fix it while there's still time Jun 09 10:33:45 ~usb-fix Jun 09 10:33:45 it has been said that usbfix is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75920 - and **NEVER** use epoxy (unless you want to seal your device for underwater), or http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PL2862BF3631A5C1AA&feature=player_detailpage&v=fYz5nIHH0iY#t=1861, you will basically need two irons: a small good one and a 60+ Watt Jun 09 10:34:08 i had charging issues when trying a new kernel, so tried to change again and now it wont even boot. Also cant seem to get the flasher app to see the nokia usb device Jun 09 10:34:19 so im wondering if the charge issues were usb socket and not kernel. Jun 09 10:35:08 im not too worried, going to buy G3 as soon as they're for sale here Jun 09 10:35:39 don't know about you.. but now i really see i need my N900. my usb is also not perfect now :( Jun 09 10:35:42 but would be nice if i could get it to boot again, i dont mine if i have to remove the battery and charge it on my RC plan lipo charger every night :P Jun 09 10:35:53 plan=plane Jun 09 10:36:15 anyway, answer to your question is that the USB port is accessible from debug ports Jun 09 10:36:31 one of the links above shows where Jun 09 10:36:40 so the USB pads under the battery are just in parallel to the usb socket? Jun 09 10:37:10 yes. testing with a multimeter seemed so Jun 09 10:37:16 so i could solder a usb socket onto the pads and it would work just like the real usb socket? Jun 09 10:37:28 cool Jun 09 10:37:34 that should make it easy to fix the booting issue Jun 09 10:37:49 read the threads properly before you do that though.. Jun 09 10:38:06 one of the lines has a fuse (not sure if that's VCC) Jun 09 10:38:47 and do speak to people who know better than me.. doc for example Jun 09 10:39:44 i currently have my battery on charge so i can try and reflash using the main usb socket. last time i tried the battery was almost flat so that may have been why i couldnt get the USB dev to appear Jun 09 10:40:43 i should install a boot menu that can run OS from uSD. That way i dont need working usb to get OS running or fix os problems Jun 09 10:44:55 hm. d+ and d- from usb socket connect to pads under battery correctly. so those wires are ok Jun 09 10:44:58 gnd also seems good Jun 09 10:45:48 as long as you remember battery V- is not GND Jun 09 10:45:49 :) Jun 09 10:45:54 waaaait Jun 09 10:46:03 are you sure that those pads aren't for the rapuyama usb port? Jun 09 10:46:26 dmm says they are shorted more or less Jun 09 10:46:55 (to usb socket) Jun 09 11:18:22 this is what i get when i plug my n900 into linux PC http://pastebin.com/949NjWzL Jun 09 11:18:28 (from linux PC logs) Jun 09 11:29:51 Psi_, as far as I know, using the test pads is not safe, ie. should you plug it in something out of spec or flaky, it might go kablooie Jun 09 11:31:13 ie. if you wanted to use them for charging etc. it might work but there's no protection there to shield you from voltage spikes or so (I think at least) Jun 09 11:31:16 yeah, but considering its dead atm Jun 09 11:31:30 na, i just want to reflash the rootfs and emmc so it boots Jun 09 11:32:26 according to the DMM one of the USB data lines only has 16ohms to usb VCC Jun 09 11:32:29 which seems odd Jun 09 11:36:06 ~weather eddn Jun 09 11:36:08 Nuernberg, Germany; (EDDN) 49-30N 011-03E 318M; last updated: 2014.06.09 1120 UTC; Dew Point: 50 F (10 C); Pressure (altimeter): 30.06 in. Hg (1018 hPa); Relative Humidity: 24%; Temperature: 91 F (33 C); Visibility: greater than 7 mile(s); Wind: from the SSE (150 degrees) at 6 MPH (5 KT) (direction variable) Jun 09 11:42:41 were does infobot fetch the data from? Jun 09 12:15:45 ~+help weather Jun 09 12:15:46 no help on weather. Use 'help' without arguments. Jun 09 12:16:07 ~weather Jun 09 12:17:56 ~weather eddn Jun 09 12:17:59 Nuernberg, Germany; (EDDN) 49-30N 011-03E 318M; last updated: 2014.06.09 1150 UTC; Dew Point: 50 F (10 C); Pressure (altimeter): 30.06 in. Hg (1018 hPa); Relative Humidity: 24%; Temperature: 91 F (33 C); Visibility: greater than 7 mile(s); Wind: Variable at 6 MPH (5 KT) Jun 09 12:21:07 http://wstaw.org/m/2014/06/09/plasma-desktopNm1787.png Jun 09 12:28:03 n900 wont boot from uSD card without some mods will it? Jun 09 14:03:35 DocScrutinizer05: http://pastebin.com/090ifz6U Jun 09 14:03:44 There is the sd card issue error Jun 09 14:06:14 Snafu777: starting at [ 1308.664093] Spurious DMA IRQ Jun 09 14:06:43 all the rest could be induced by this Jun 09 14:15:20 Hmm Jun 09 14:16:10 So would you think that is a hardware issue of some type DocScrutinizer05 ? Jun 09 14:16:54 Ooo. Documented http://talk.maemo.org/archive/index.php/t-64247.html Jun 09 14:19:13 god! why archive? Jun 09 14:20:37 At least I'm not alone. Sounds to be like a hardware, send back to Nokia, oh wait... Damn, now I need to buy a new one type issue to me Jun 09 14:24:50 chem|st: tmo search is borked! returns empty page http://talk.maemo.org/search.php?do=process Jun 09 14:25:38 ugh, depending on search string? Jun 09 14:26:51 actually it fails for search:"Help n900 sd card problem" Jun 09 14:27:47 anyway, Snafu777 here you are: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=64247 Jun 09 14:27:58 please don't use 2archive" ! Jun 09 14:28:09 Heh. Wow, Never seen this before. It seems ipv6 is actually in use: error: Failed to connect to 2607:f8b0:4002:c01::71: Network is unreachable while accessing https://code.google.com/p/lorcon//info/refs?service=git-upload-pack Jun 09 14:29:02 And to get ipv6 support, it seems I have to update my kernel-power .deb Jun 09 14:29:29 * Snafu777 is not happy, the last time he did this, his battery life, and the capability to maintain a stable access point via airbase-ng was severly affected Jun 09 14:29:59 Snafu777: I still fail to clearly understand whether that probelm of yours is about eMMC or about uSD Jun 09 14:30:34 I've no idea DocScrutinizer05 =). I just know I promised to you that I would paste the issue when I came across it Jun 09 14:30:44 to avoid all ambiguities that come in here by kernel renaming stuff, you should remove your uSD Jun 09 14:30:49 I popped the error when I attempted to copy from my SD card to the n900 Jun 09 14:31:19 Oh, I was just moaning about the ipv6 and kernel stuff. Kind of a side story Jun 09 14:31:30 If I want ipv6, I must upgrade... Not a big deal Jun 09 14:31:45 Definately my "problem" is the sd card, but that seems to be a hardware issue based on the forums Jun 09 14:32:23 eMMC or uSD? both qualify for the term 2sd card" Jun 09 14:32:52 and both sometimes are mmcblk0 and sometimes mmcblk1 Jun 09 14:33:17 sorry, afk Jun 09 14:34:09 /dev/mmcblk1p1 Jun 09 14:34:21 when your problem is the uSD, then get a new card and discard this one Jun 09 14:34:27 That's just it Jun 09 14:34:30 This is the tenth one Jun 09 14:34:49 Just find it highly suspect it's the uSD when ten in a row all fail Jun 09 14:34:52 Diff makes and models Jun 09 14:35:02 Can you recommend one? Jun 09 14:57:31 Snafu777: is it a "Class 10" uSD card? Jun 09 14:57:43 whoops, looks like he left. Jun 09 17:10:41 DocScrutinizer05: tmo search was broken at migration Jun 09 17:31:45 sixwheeledbeast: yes, I know there been garbage in search cache Jun 09 17:31:56 got fixed for all I know Jun 09 17:32:28 :shrug: Jun 09 17:33:53 search:"Help n900 sd card problem" fails, as did "sd card problem" (iirc) - "sd" gets omitted for too short, this leaves either card or problem being flawed/tainted as search term Jun 09 17:35:08 hmm Jun 09 17:35:41 "Help n900 sd card problem" still fails Jun 09 17:36:33 "sd card problem" works, resulting in >>Search: Keyword(s): card, problem<< Jun 09 17:37:29 sure, again "N900" that's broken Jun 09 17:39:14 "n900 sd card problem" fails, "n900 froblutrobb" *succeeds* o.O Jun 09 17:39:58 "n900 sd card" fails Jun 09 17:40:51 of course "n900 card" fails as well then Jun 09 17:42:38 "n900 cards", "n900 sdcards", "n900 microsdcards" fails Jun 09 17:43:40 "icrosdcards n900" (SIC) -> >>Sorry - no matches. Please try some different terms.<< Jun 09 17:45:23 "microsdcards n900" works, "n900 microsdcards" fails Jun 09 17:46:33 chem|st: bug report: tmo search broken for some search strings starting with "n900", probably search cache inconsistent again Jun 09 20:49:59 DocScrutinizer05: what are the "some" search strings? cannot reproduce! Jun 09 21:25:56 chem|st: "microsdcards n900" works, "n900 microsdcards" fails Jun 09 21:26:23 see last ~15 lines above Jun 09 21:28:19 just this very second verified it again. place "n900 microsdcards" into search field upper right of an arbitrary tmo page, hit enter (or click "Go") ---> http://talk.maemo.org/search.php?do=process Jun 09 21:28:30 blank page Jun 09 21:32:42 chem|st: http://wstaw.org/m/2014/06/09/plasma-desktopjZ1787.png "Go" -> http://wstaw.org/m/2014/06/09/plasma-desktopXs1787.png -> http://wstaw.org/m/2014/06/09/plasma-desktoplx1787.png (SIC! blank page, after several (5..10?) seconds) Jun 09 21:36:31 chem|st: I can't explain this one though: "n900 microsdcards" fails, "n900 froblutrobb" *succeeds* o.O Jun 09 22:26:17 uh that search engine... Jun 09 22:27:03 that it takes 5-10 seconds is your problem, I get a blank page after 2 seconds... Jun 09 22:29:11 you should get fwded to the search page, it is "no results" but should not show a blank Jun 10 00:57:46 :nod: **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Jun 10 02:59:59 2014