**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Jun 28 02:59:58 2014 Jun 28 09:24:32 Hello world, anyone here know of any good mirrors for the flasher and images? Jun 28 09:25:25 * DarkFox recently got another N900 for $35, and the 32-bit laptop I originally used for flashing my first (other) N900 is not in a functional state (If it even still has the files on it). Jun 28 09:31:37 good/authentic Jun 28 09:35:31 hi there... Jun 28 09:35:37 ?flash Jun 28 09:35:45 ~flash Jun 28 09:35:46 extra, extra, read all about it, maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware Jun 28 09:36:15 ~flasher Jun 28 09:36:15 i guess flasher is at http://www.jedge.com/n810/flasher/maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz (also .exe!), or http://www.chakra-project.org/ccr/packages.php?ID=5027 or generally http://www.google.com/search?q=maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz. HARMattan(N9): https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/fl/flasher-harmattan/flasher-harmattan.tar.gz, or -- list of filenames/md5sums: http://pastebin.com/sYKdNJSH, or http://galif.eu/nokia/ Jun 28 09:36:52 ~firmware Jun 28 09:36:52 i guess firmware is please see ~combined ~emmc ~flasher Jun 28 09:37:08 ~combined Jun 28 09:37:09 i guess combined is the rootfs fiasco image of maemo. For N900 latest (PR1.3.1) see http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2011/9/--FID--A0A22MVWFVFAM/--LID--FiRe1317015685654/RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin, or http://galif.eu/nokia/ Jun 28 09:37:21 ~emmc Jun 28 09:37:22 methinks emmc is magnet:?xt=urn:btih:402fb5cc8a48ecbc18a77c9cf70d869a775bcf53&dn=RX-51%5F2009SE%5F10.2010.13-2.VANILLA%5FPR%5FEMMC%5FMR0%5FARM.bin or https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4105928/RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.VANILLA_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.torrent, or http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2010/5/--FID--A0A22YHFSICNA/--LID--FiRe1275051276916/AE98ED9D_RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.CENTRAL-EUROPE_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin Jun 28 09:37:32 DarkFox: have fun ^^ Jun 28 09:37:47 drathir: Hai :3 Jun 28 09:38:02 drathir: Channel jump \o/ Jun 28 09:38:16 Looks good to me. Jun 28 09:38:19 Magnet link :3 Jun 28 09:38:23 DarkFox: little noisy but propably all things what You needed... Jun 28 09:38:32 drathir: Hopefully :D Jun 28 09:39:02 drathir: Only magnet link for the one ? Jun 28 09:40:01 http://galif.eu/nokia/N900/ Jun 28 09:40:03 That should do Jun 28 09:40:07 rtorrent doesn't like me today. :P Jun 28 09:40:41 drathir: Happen to know if there are any 64-bit builds for the flasher? Jun 28 09:40:48 looks like Yes, thats one should be fine but You can wait to confirm with fresh info fro DocScrutinizer05... Jun 28 09:41:12 DocScrutinizer51: Hello :) Jun 28 09:41:32 DarkFox: better for me is deluge... btw Jun 28 09:41:50 drathir: Deluge? Jun 28 09:42:09 DarkFox: torrent client #deluge Jun 28 09:42:38 * DarkFox notes his first N900's USB port broke out, but the original owner of the device butchered the screws - so workaround = charge N900 battery inside Nokia N95. \o/ Jun 28 09:42:46 drathir: Ah, I shall check that one out Jun 28 09:43:08 drathir: Thanks, cli or gui? Jun 28 09:44:02 DarkFox: mine also wait for a fix but think wait to prices neo900 Jun 28 09:44:08 Both as it seems Jun 28 09:44:22 What about prices for neo900? Jun 28 09:44:37 DarkFox: cli+console gui Jun 28 09:44:45 Indeed Jun 28 09:44:46 + web Jun 28 09:44:50 y' Jun 28 09:45:33 Neo900 a clone or original + updated firmware? Jun 28 09:45:57 if neo900 will available im more prefer buy new n900 and broken one replace to neo900 Jun 28 09:46:07 "N900, with a faster CPU, more RAM" Jun 28 09:46:08 Nice Jun 28 09:46:52 How different is the neo900 compared to n900? Jun 28 09:47:31 a huge difff... Jun 28 09:47:37 Nvm - http://neo900.org/specs Jun 28 09:47:38 :D Jun 28 09:47:48 600Mhz -> 1Ghz Jun 28 09:47:59 Looks good at the first row of the comparasion table :D Jun 28 09:48:13 new mobo cpu,ram, modem, gps, battery hotswap Jun 28 09:48:52 and foss compilant Jun 28 09:50:46 <3 Jun 28 09:51:05 Still.... N900 for $35, still not bad and would like to get it unlocked. :P - Pin code = unknown. :D Jun 28 09:52:01 High power Consumer IR (with learning) and IrDA Jun 28 09:52:02 Omg Jun 28 09:52:14 What a way to keep the IR, upgrade it! \o/ Jun 28 09:54:34 reflash full not sure but maybe could help... need to ask here too... Jun 28 09:55:09 neo900 also should suport more os... Jun 28 09:56:14 no neo900 is mostly dev phone that kind of irda is highly needed... Jun 28 09:56:52 i dont even say about owning tv reciver control of channels ^^ Jun 28 09:57:52 phone always close tv channel switcher not always... Jun 28 10:10:08 "screws - so workaround = charge N900 battery inside Nokia N95. \o/ " Jun 28 10:10:19 N95 uses the same battery as N900? Jun 28 10:10:30 nope. Jun 28 10:11:08 DarkFox: how do you do that? Jun 28 10:11:20 i've n95 8gb and n900 with broken usb Jun 28 10:11:42 can i use my n95 8gb? Jun 28 10:20:59 Ashley`: Just have the battery overhang Jun 28 10:21:10 oh. Jun 28 10:21:12 hm Jun 28 10:21:19 Ashley`: It fits and connects; the camera part that hangs out to the battery part doesn't cause any pain; but it fits fine. Jun 28 10:21:20 gonna try it when i'll come back home Jun 28 10:21:54 I'll send you some pics Jun 28 10:21:59 Ashley`: It doesn't fully charge however Jun 28 10:22:10 It only charges to what the N95 knows the battery should charge to Jun 28 10:22:15 Which iirc is ~75% Jun 28 10:23:22 better than nothing Jun 28 10:23:36 Indeed Jun 28 10:23:47 Got a charger from HK, came with 2 batteries Jun 28 10:23:50 The batteries were fine Jun 28 10:23:55 The charger shorted after 2 uses Jun 28 10:25:32 Ashley`: From my xperia's phone - http://darkfox.id.au/DSC_0004.jpg http://darkfox.id.au/DSC_0006.jpg Jun 28 10:25:38 Second pic still uploading (slowly) Jun 28 10:26:32 LAG Jun 28 10:26:40 Ashley`: Both pics should be uploaded fine Jun 28 10:27:26 Yes the back on the N95 is broken too. :P Jun 28 10:27:29 TAPE! Jun 28 10:28:23 http://technascent.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/battery.jpg n95 8gb dont have that hanging out camera part :P Jun 28 10:28:45 Oh Jun 28 10:28:55 Clearly different model :P Jun 28 10:29:00 and i've read on the internets that standard n95 battery fits in n95 8gb, so n900 battery should work too :P Jun 28 10:29:07 5f Jun 28 10:29:11 I have BL-5F Jun 28 10:29:15 i know Jun 28 10:29:22 But my BL-5J (n900) fits just the same Jun 28 10:29:35 Ashley`: I hope your F6 fits :) Jun 28 10:29:39 people use bl-6f in n95 and bl-5f in n95 8gb (According to random forums :P) Jun 28 10:29:40 6F * Jun 28 10:31:56 Ashley`: They different dimentions? Jun 28 10:32:41 http://discussions.nokia.com/t5/Symbian-Devices/N95-Battery-question-BL-5F-and-BL-6F-size/td-p/186015 Jun 28 10:33:23 Ashley`: Looks like the 6F is just thicker Jun 28 10:33:23 yes Jun 28 10:33:30 While it should still fit the 5J Jun 28 10:34:01 As long as it's not wider, you're fine. Jun 28 10:35:04 i'm not in home until friday ;< Jun 28 10:35:43 :P Jun 28 10:35:45 Have fun Jun 28 10:36:27 Ashley`: The hack is useful :P Jun 28 10:36:41 * DarkFox used to have 3 fully charged N900 batteries per day Jun 28 10:36:48 Erm Jun 28 10:36:57 "Fully charged" - N95 Jun 28 10:37:53 i've two bl-5j Jun 28 10:38:09 drathir: "RFID-EEPROM" Jun 28 10:38:13 drathir: RFID reader? Jun 28 10:38:14 so i can charge the second one while using first one, great :D Jun 28 10:38:20 drathir: NFC ? Jun 28 10:38:50 Ashley`: If you have multiple... Yes :P Jun 28 10:38:58 No reason why not :P Jun 28 10:39:03 N95 decommissioned long time ago Jun 28 10:39:20 But still nice to use as LOUD N900 battery charger/music player. ;) Jun 28 10:42:09 my n95 has broken... uh... that thing that connects things to screen Jun 28 10:42:20 (n95 8gb, of course) Jun 28 10:42:43 aaand broken speakers Jun 28 10:42:59 but it can serve music over dlna! Jun 28 10:43:33 :P Jun 28 10:43:43 Ashley`: "That thing that connects things to screen" Jun 28 10:43:47 Ashley`: You mean the rails? Jun 28 10:44:06 Slide-factor :P Jun 28 10:44:10 yup Jun 28 10:44:19 i didnt know how it is called in english :P Jun 28 10:49:20 Ashley`: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ta7Mh9a_y8 Jun 28 10:49:21 :P Jun 28 10:49:56 Title... Had to click it! :P https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hwLHdBTQ7s Jun 28 10:51:38 hehe Jun 28 11:06:36 Ashley`: nokia c3 the same battery that n900 have... Jun 28 11:07:13 i know Jun 28 11:07:39 i bought that battery for 5PLN from my friend who've had C3-00 Jun 28 11:08:52 e51 also able to charge some n900 battery... Jun 28 11:10:09 DarkFox: bluetoothnew and probably fm reciver and sender i guess Jun 28 11:12:08 my e51 is lost :< Jun 28 11:12:47 drathir: szłam sobie kiedyśdo kolegi i mi wypadła z kieszeni po drodze, i ktoś zdążył zabrać zanim zauważyłam ;_; (sorry for polish, me cant english) Jun 28 11:13:00 ;/ Jun 28 11:13:13 thats sad story... Jun 28 11:16:39 DarkFox: in free translate im not native one too "in path to friend the e51 slip out from the pocket, and until catch im lose someone bring them from the footpath... " Jun 28 11:17:42 DarkFox: im not sure is fully understable... sorry if not... Jun 28 11:17:45 few days later that person answered phone, but disconnected immediatly Jun 28 11:19:13 "my e51 slip out from the pocket while i was walking to my frend's place, and someone took it before i even realised that it's lost" <- maybe that's more understandable :v Jun 28 11:21:08 Ashley`: propably should be... Jun 28 11:25:39 (( drathir: Happen to know if there are any 64-bit builds for the flasher?)) nope, no 64bit version of flasher, but the 32bit versions work just fine on usual modern linux distros with 32b-compatibility-support Jun 28 11:27:18 what you need to do regularly is blacklisting phoned kernel module Jun 28 11:27:24 ~flashing Jun 28 11:27:24 [maemo-flashing] http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware Jun 28 11:37:21 DocScrutinizer05: Thanks, last time I tried with the multilib on arch, it didn't work. However, 32-bit definatly worked. I shall try out multilib again; maybe tomorrow. Jun 28 11:39:25 DocScrutinizer05: I think that wiki page needs to get updated as the nokia mirror is dead. There doesn't look like there is any reference to the alternate. Jun 28 11:39:31 > http://galif.eu/nokia/N900/ Jun 28 11:40:25 we're not referencing to alternatives Jun 28 11:40:50 please complain at nokia that they discontinued their support Jun 28 11:41:40 maybe we have to rethink this policy, now that nokia basically gone poof Jun 28 11:43:17 anyway, see Jun 28 11:43:21 ~0xffff Jun 28 11:43:22 methinks 0xffff is https://gitorious.org/0xffff/, or http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=87996 Jun 28 11:45:53 Ah Jun 28 11:45:58 Forgot about that project Jun 28 11:46:13 Or at least plans for it Jun 28 11:46:38 Would be fun to use N900 to reflash another N900 :3 Jun 28 11:47:18 i think it's doable if you have a powered usb hub Jun 28 11:48:41 kerio: I think it's doable with a custom cable. Micro->Micro Jun 28 11:48:57 the n900 has trouble enumerating usb devices in host mode Jun 28 11:49:02 Out of spec standard, but should work. Jun 28 11:49:23 and can only provide 200mA Jun 28 11:49:23 https://hakshop.myshopify.com/products/micro-to-micro-otg Jun 28 11:49:35 Might be enough :3 Jun 28 11:49:52 it's a software issue Jun 28 11:49:57 er Jun 28 11:49:58 hardware Jun 28 11:50:25 It should be enough if the battery is charged Jun 28 11:50:27 :) Jun 28 11:50:51 am i writing in another language? Jun 28 11:51:07 the n900 need manual enumeration of usb devices when running in host mode Jun 28 11:51:54 it's going to be near impossible to flash a n900 if you don't have a usb hub in front of it Jun 28 11:52:11 :( Jun 28 11:52:24 How about the Neo900? :P Jun 28 11:52:35 i think it'll have full usb otg support Jun 28 11:52:40 so it should be much easier there Jun 28 11:52:54 Yea Jun 28 11:53:04 Swapping over the boards looks doable for myself. Jun 28 11:53:12 I could drill out the screws on my older N900 Jun 28 11:53:24 DarkFox: little old but see: Jun 28 11:53:34 Replacing board means I won't need to do anything with my broken USB port :P Jun 28 11:53:49 could i put 6 lines there? Jun 28 11:54:04 Sure! :P Jun 28 11:54:10 Not that many Jun 28 11:54:36 DocScrutinizer05 kerio ? Jun 28 11:55:08 ?? Jun 28 11:55:49 could i paste 6lines on the channel? Jun 28 11:57:00 go ahead Jun 28 11:57:15 ascii penis incoming Jun 28 11:57:21 Lol Jun 28 11:57:35 pacman -Qi flasher :( Jun 28 11:57:35 Name : flasher Jun 28 11:57:35 Version : 3.5_2.5.2.2-3 Jun 28 11:57:35 Description : Flasher utility for the Nokia N8X0 & N900 Jun 28 11:57:35 Architecture : x86_64 Jun 28 11:57:37 URL : http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/maemo-dev-env-downloads.php Jun 28 11:57:40 "incoming" is the right word here ;-P Jun 28 11:57:54 drathir: Nice Jun 28 11:58:16 im can confirm that one sucessfully flashed on arch Jun 28 11:58:27 drathir: Pitty you got it from aur, where it needs to get it from tablets-dev :P Sure could be easily edited. :) Jun 28 11:58:47 drathir: Nice to see it functioning though :D Jun 28 11:59:32 Y aur if good remember but works lookout about hartman one its bad if good remember... Jun 28 12:00:03 bad if good Jun 28 12:00:11 I'm pretty sure I know what you mean though :D Jun 28 12:00:19 bad, if good remember* Jun 28 12:00:55 Bad, if I recall correctly * Jun 28 12:00:59 Or short... bad, iirc. Jun 28 12:01:44 yeah, drathir's 2if good remember" is quite unique wording ;-) Jun 28 12:02:07 2if? o_0 Jun 28 12:02:18 s/2/"/ Jun 28 12:02:18 DocScrutinizer05 meant: yeah, drathir's "if good remember" is quite unique wording ;-) Jun 28 12:02:28 im dont sure if correct remember, but some my minds say me hartman (even if more latest version) is bad one for n900... Jun 28 12:03:04 drathir: Not even dvorak typo.... Jun 28 12:03:07 DocScrutinizer05: ** Jun 28 12:03:12 Sorry drathir, wrong person :P Jun 28 12:03:17 "... bad if good, remember!" ;-P Jun 28 12:03:47 DarkFox: eh? Jun 28 12:03:54 DocScrutinizer05: 2 vs " Jun 28 12:04:04 bad if worser, good if better ^^ Jun 28 12:04:09 please check WERTZU layout (German) Jun 28 12:04:25 Oh Jun 28 12:04:36 DocScrutinizer05: THat is dvorak :P Jun 28 12:04:40 My bad Jun 28 12:05:13 Or similar? Jun 28 12:06:18 DocScrutinizer05: I suggest not searching WERTZU in ixquick's image search... Not even safe for work... Jun 28 12:06:20 ok, seem "WERT ZU" is really obsolete ancient term, nowadays "qwertz" Jun 28 12:06:49 https://www.google.com/search?q=qwertz+keyboard+layout Jun 28 12:07:20 https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2c/KB_Polish_QWERTZ_PN87_commons.svg Jun 28 12:07:23 :P Jun 28 12:07:32 2 vs " looks like a shift :P Jun 28 12:07:32 https://www.google.com/images?q=wertzu+keyboard+layout Jun 28 12:08:08 DocScrutinizer05: Don't just search for wertzu :P Jun 28 12:08:38 Didn't check google's results, but ixquick had some unexpected images. Jun 28 12:09:02 DocScrutinizer05: Looks like a fun keyboard layout Jun 28 12:09:18 * DarkFox sticks with qwerty for now. And oneday... Switch to colemak again :P Jun 28 14:03:58 when you choose a point in Maps application, how would you find out the corresponding GPS coordinates? Jun 28 14:38:40 good question Jun 28 14:46:04 nfc Jun 28 14:46:23 prolly there exists a dbus method Jun 28 14:51:00 i treid to look. then again, not good with dbus things Jun 28 14:51:05 *tried Jun 28 16:38:57 I doubt it's even discoverable (prolly missing introspection on Nokia's map app blob) and prolly also not publicly specified when it exists at all. I however think the map *widget* *must* have a way to return geolocation data of the "POI" the user marked, to the invoking process Jun 28 16:53:00 * Sicelo fires up the location widget for the first time ever Jun 28 17:01:59 heh, i don't understand what the widget does Jun 28 17:04:21 i see red dots, etc.. Maps application has properly locked on my position, but the widget is showing me its own stuff Jun 28 17:07:55 can I take off the secondary board (the one that goes around the camera lens) from the n900 nondestructively? it seems to be glued on. Jun 28 17:08:44 USB problem? yes. just be careful with the flex of course Jun 28 17:09:29 okay Jun 28 17:09:33 yeah, very weird usb problem. Jun 28 17:09:48 just intermittent connection issues. Jun 28 17:10:01 usb connection only works if I push down on the plug Jun 28 17:10:30 "down" from the perspective of the phone lying flat on a table Jun 28 17:11:12 known issue :) Jun 28 17:11:25 is there a known fix too? Jun 28 17:11:31 ~usb-fix Jun 28 17:11:31 rumour has it, usbfix is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75920 - and **NEVER** use epoxy (unless you want to seal your device for underwater), or http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PL2862BF3631A5C1AA&feature=player_detailpage&v=fYz5nIHH0iY#t=1861, you will basically need two irons: a small good one and a 60+ Watt Jun 28 17:11:43 meh, I don't see how that'll fix it :/ Jun 28 17:11:49 huh? Jun 28 17:11:57 the usb connector casing is rock-solid on the board Jun 28 17:12:33 do solder it down, ... it will come out one day.. Jun 28 17:12:39 sure Jun 28 17:12:51 but how will that fix the intermittent connection issue? Jun 28 17:13:09 but maybe you have the problem i have, that is, the inside of the port is also borked.. therefore will have to replace the whole port Jun 28 17:13:15 ugh Jun 28 17:13:19 I was afraid of that Jun 28 17:13:34 Hi all, anyone have a link in order to flash n900 ? Jun 28 17:13:38 http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/maemo-dev-env-downloads.php is broken Jun 28 17:14:00 i haven't fixed that on mine yet. i can still charge with the adapter for the barrel connector chargers Jun 28 17:14:10 ~rom Jun 28 17:14:12 rom is probably Read Only Memory Jun 28 17:14:13 ugh Jun 28 17:14:20 paging DocScrutinizer05 Jun 28 17:14:26 I don't know what the right factoid is Jun 28 17:14:31 ~flash Jun 28 17:14:32 from memory, maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware Jun 28 17:14:37 ~flasher Jun 28 17:14:37 i heard flasher is at http://www.jedge.com/n810/flasher/maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz (also .exe!), or http://www.chakra-project.org/ccr/packages.php?ID=5027 or generally http://www.google.com/search?q=maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz. HARMattan(N9): https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/fl/flasher-harmattan/flasher-harmattan.tar.gz, or -- list of filenames/md5sums: http://pastebin.com/sYKdNJSH, or http://galif.eu/nokia/ Jun 28 17:15:44 how do I take off the secondary board without breaking it? Jun 28 17:16:29 just pull it up carefully Jun 28 17:16:47 stuck on with some double-sided tape thing Jun 28 17:17:03 ty honestly :) Jun 28 17:17:19 http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_firmware ← link isn't updated Jun 28 17:17:23 eth0_: if you need the images, give me a second, I'm uploading them Jun 28 17:17:40 well, more like 40 minutes Jun 28 17:17:42 my uplink isn';t the best Jun 28 17:17:50 i've installed the flasher-harmattan Jun 28 17:17:58 ~rescueOS Jun 28 17:17:59 somebody said rescueos was http://n900.quitesimple.org/rescueOS/ Jun 28 17:19:15 eth0_: clone this repo: https://github.com/NIN101/N900_RescueOS Jun 28 17:19:50 and you need flasher-3.5 Jun 28 17:20:04 My N900 show nokia logo and reboot then Jun 28 17:20:06 and the images Jun 28 17:20:33 eth0_: well, what did you do to it? Jun 28 17:21:03 shutdown during upgrade …  Jun 28 17:21:07 no more batteryu Jun 28 17:21:19 ah Jun 28 17:22:04 don't flash your N900 when you are low on battery. Jun 28 17:22:34 eth0_: did you manage to charge the battery? Jun 28 17:22:43 It was an aptitude upgrade ;) Jun 28 17:23:30 read all of this: https://github.com/NIN101/N900_RescueOS/blob/master/documentation.txt Jun 28 17:24:53 ok thanks you honestly , i'm gonna try this tomorrow Jun 28 17:25:25 eth0_: save this link - http://europa.lerlacher.de/ Jun 28 17:25:38 the n900 flash images will be there in a bit Jun 28 17:25:45 ok ty Jun 28 17:26:03 (don't download the image that's there now, it's not done uploading) Jun 28 17:28:44 Sicelo: you lied to me ): those glue strips aren't reusable Jun 28 17:30:06 hehe. i don't remember saying they are :D Jun 28 17:32:26 I asked if it's possible to remove the board nondestructively :P Jun 28 17:32:36 I guess we might have different definitions of "nondestructive" Jun 28 17:33:33 maybe irssi is a bad IRC client .. lol, it only shows you said this: Jun 28 17:33:37 17:15 < honestly> how do I take off the secondary board without breaking it? Jun 28 17:34:01 and i'm 100% sure your secondary board is not broken now :) Jun 28 17:34:19 19:07:55 < honestly> can I take off the secondary board (the one that goes around the camera lens) from the n900 nondestructively? it seems to be glued on. Jun 28 17:34:22 :P Jun 28 17:34:25 yeah Jun 28 17:35:39 fwiw, my secondary board is still stuck with the original glue strips (after i soldered my USB on) Jun 28 17:35:44 out of curiosity, is the antenna socket on the main board for wifi or GPS? Jun 28 17:36:14 if anyone knows... Jun 28 17:37:01 check the Hardware page on Wiki Jun 28 17:48:18 ~usbfix Jun 28 17:48:18 usbfix is, like, http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75920 - and **NEVER** use epoxy (unless you want to seal your device for underwater), or http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PL2862BF3631A5C1AA&feature=player_detailpage&v=fYz5nIHH0iY#t=1861, you will basically need two irons: a small good one and a 60+ Watt Jun 28 18:08:56 whelp, ordered micro-usb parts Jun 28 18:09:13 only question is do I want to try anything now Jun 28 18:34:54 /topic Jun 28 18:34:57 FTW Jun 28 18:35:22 also Jun 28 18:35:31 ~litskeys flash Jun 28 18:35:39 ~listkeys flash Jun 28 18:35:40 Factoid search of 'flash' by key (16 of 66): #harmattan flashing ;; #qi-hardware flashing ;; cmd: flash (.*?) ;; cmd: newsflash (.*?) ;; flash ;; flash 4 plugin for netscape ;; flash api ;; flash bios ;; flash mount menu ;; flash plug ;; flash rom ;; flash web server ;; flash-partitioning ;; flashback ;; flasher ;; flashkit. Jun 28 18:36:28 ~listkeys #maemo flash Jun 28 18:36:29 Factoid search of '#maemo flash' by key returned no results. Jun 28 18:36:38 ~listkeys #maemo Jun 28 18:36:39 Factoid search of '#maemo ' by key (15 of 79): #maemo 9 ;; #maemo boot-process ;; #maemo broken ;; #maemo closed_packages ;; #maemo cmtfix ;; #maemo cssu-state ;; #maemo donate ;; #maemo drag+drop ;; #maemo ek ;; #maemo firmware ;; #maemo gestures ;; #maemo getversion ;; #maemo interim-dns ;; #maemo mcebug ;; #maemo mirror. Jun 28 18:37:06 ~flasher Jun 28 18:37:07 hmm... flasher is at http://www.jedge.com/n810/flasher/maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz (also .exe!), or http://www.chakra-project.org/ccr/packages.php?ID=5027 or generally http://www.google.com/search?q=maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz. HARMattan(N9): https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/fl/flasher-harmattan/flasher-harmattan.tar.gz, or -- list of filenames/md5sums: http://pastebin.com/sYKdNJSH, or http://galif.eu/nokia/ Jun 28 18:37:48 how the hell do I get at the inner pads of the usb connector with a soldering iron? Jun 28 18:38:51 I think the answer is "you don't" Jun 28 18:49:21 exactly Jun 28 18:50:48 well crap Jun 28 18:51:20 so no way to replace usb connector without soldering paste and heat gun? Jun 28 18:51:28 unless you get a different USB receptacle, or cut off the steel "roof" of the original one (don't make this "re-use the original broken USB"!) Jun 28 18:52:15 I ordered this, was linked in one of the threads: http://www.dx.com/de/p/diy-micro-usb-5-pin-female-smt-socket-connector-silver-20-piece-pack-134132#.U68CoaYvBhE Jun 28 18:56:22 well, looks feasible, though honestly probably hot air is easier Jun 28 18:58:28 or you do the special hack and use 5mm thin wires you solder to the PCB first, then to the USB, then carefulle bend then all back and fold then up while pushing in USB into place, so that the wire loops go up and down in parallel to each other. Then solder down the mech posts of USB Jun 28 18:58:57 when I say "thin" I mean *really* thin stuff Jun 28 18:59:14 no plastic isolation, only varnish Jun 28 19:00:38 mmm Jun 28 19:00:51 0.10mm dia Jun 28 19:00:57 wire for winding coils Jun 28 19:01:11 Have you tried heating the uUSB up with an iron, it may just reflow the connections. WFM Jun 28 19:01:27 or even 0.05mm Jun 28 19:01:36 there is no metal connection between the receptacle and the inner pads Jun 28 19:01:44 so I don't see how that should work o.O Jun 28 19:02:12 sixwheeledbeast: highly unlkely. the plasic holding the contacts won't conduct the heat sufficently from the steel you heat up Jun 28 19:02:29 or what honestly said Jun 28 19:02:38 Well I had a similar issue that was fixed this way. Jun 28 19:02:48 extreme luck Jun 28 19:02:59 weird. Jun 28 19:03:02 prolly not *fixed* but chased away the symtomps Jun 28 19:03:19 symptoms Jun 28 19:03:32 Well it saved removing the uUSB which I was dreading. Jun 28 19:04:12 yup, removing is pretty demanding task, atz least when you don't wanna break it Jun 28 19:05:32 Also I imagine the pads and tracks are very fine and easy to damage. Jun 28 19:05:41 yes Jun 28 19:06:06 that's part of the reason why removing it is demanding Jun 28 19:06:27 actually should get done with hot air only Jun 28 19:06:53 SMT isn't for hobbyists Jun 28 19:07:31 I will do it with hot air Jun 28 19:07:38 it needs a bit of experience, and particularly it needs good tools and material Jun 28 19:08:41 for making it easy for you: there's nothing but the camera module in close vicinity that you accidentally could overheat Jun 28 19:17:14 it seems that by futzing with the whole thing for a bit, I've also managed to chase away the symptoms Jun 28 19:17:26 hooray for voodoo repair. Jun 28 19:17:49 I once repaired a completely bonkers PC mouse just by putting it into a box for half a year. Jun 28 19:18:24 3 years later, it's still working today. Jun 28 19:20:42 Sicelo: I applied some force to the inner connector to bend it a little bit upwards. by all rights, that should do nothing, since the connectors are embedded into the flexible plastic. But I guess it worked. Jun 28 19:21:12 maybe there's a broken connection there that I managed to bend back into making proper contact. Jun 28 19:23:32 DocScrutinizer05: for anyone in the near future looking for maemo images, I'm hosting them here for now: http://europa.lerlacher.de/ Jun 28 19:27:49 mhm ... how dare someone delete my wiki page :) Jun 28 19:50:09 ~combined Jun 28 19:50:09 extra, extra, read all about it, combined is the rootfs fiasco image of maemo. For N900 latest (PR1.3.1) see http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2011/9/--FID--A0A22MVWFVFAM/--LID--FiRe1317015685654/RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin, or http://galif.eu/nokia/ Jun 28 19:50:16 ~emmc Jun 28 19:50:16 from memory, emmc is magnet:?xt=urn:btih:402fb5cc8a48ecbc18a77c9cf70d869a775bcf53&dn=RX-51%5F2009SE%5F10.2010.13-2.VANILLA%5FPR%5FEMMC%5FMR0%5FARM.bin or https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4105928/RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.VANILLA_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.torrent, or http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2010/5/--FID--A0A22YHFSICNA/--LID--FiRe1275051276916/AE98ED9D_RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.CENTRAL-EUROPE_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin Jun 28 19:50:28 but thanks Jun 28 19:51:31 ~flasher Jun 28 19:51:31 well, flasher is at http://www.jedge.com/n810/flasher/maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz (also .exe!), or http://www.chakra-project.org/ccr/packages.php?ID=5027 or generally http://www.google.com/search?q=maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz. HARMattan(N9): https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/fl/flasher-harmattan/flasher-harmattan.tar.gz, or -- list of filenames/md5sums: http://pastebin.com/sYKdNJSH, or http://galif.eu/nokia/ Jun 28 20:16:50 you're honestly lucky ;) Jun 28 20:17:12 nothing has helped mine .. it must be replace some day Jun 28 20:17:30 however, some usb cables seem to work fine on it, but not all Jun 28 20:44:22 then most likely the contacts are bent or dirty Jun 28 20:45:29 I seen one defect plug ruin a 5 receptacles of 5 devices we used to try and test what's the broken part in our equipment, in a mere 10 minutes Jun 28 20:46:41 every now and then you can find a *really* nasty plug, where e.g. one contact blade got pushed back and folded up Jun 28 20:47:26 and of course that damaged contact in turn damages all receptacles' contacts that you plug the plug in Jun 28 20:48:17 it's like a contagious desease Jun 28 20:48:32 disease* Jun 28 20:54:59 one of my USB chargers had no D+- short. I tried a hack and placed an Alu patch over the middle 2 contacts of a plug, to short D+-, then plugged that in to the charger. Since then I need to retract any USB plug a 2mm (or 3) to make the thing work, otherwise no more contact and no charging. Oh and of course I removed that patch and I shortded D+- inside the charger by soldering then together Jun 28 20:56:01 seems it bent down the contact springs in charger receptacle Jun 28 20:56:43 would be pretty difficult to bend them into shape again Jun 28 21:07:15 for now the CA-146C is my only way to charge. i don't mind general USB for a while (until i need a reflash) Jun 28 21:10:10 oh my, heh! i would never have thought there's a pcb inside the CA-146C .. always thought i was just straight-through, so to speak Jun 28 21:24:33 Hi. Anyone still using their N900 as their main phone? :) Jun 28 21:26:10 yes. Jun 28 21:26:15 o/ Jun 28 21:26:48 louisdk: are you like louis c.k. but better Jun 28 21:26:49 ? Jun 28 21:28:06 kerio, dk stands for Denmark, so judge it yourself :) Jun 28 21:41:24 yup. Jun 28 21:41:40 I am using n900 as my only phone. Jun 28 21:50:30 honestly, you're not missing any features? :) Jun 28 21:53:31 nah Jun 28 23:21:16 ~coldflash Jun 28 23:21:16 methinks coldflash is http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2010-10-31.log.html#t2010-10-31T23:34:01 (jacekowski's instructions), or http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_firmware/Cold_Flashing **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Jun 29 02:59:59 2014