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Jun 29 12:38:44 <sixwheeledbeast> well some of the Karma system maybe be broken. my Karma hasn't changed in ~12 days even when I know Products and Favourites should have increased
Jun 29 15:21:43 <DocScrutinizer05> yoh, borked
Jun 29 15:42:47 <kerio> börk börk börk
Jun 29 16:27:07 <DocScrutinizer05> [general notice] due to karma completely broken, current council will *have to* ignore resp *guess* karma for candidates applying to elections for next council. Extended nomination period ending today! Maemo about to fall into pieces since not enough candidates fro forming a new council stepped up and volunterred yet
Jun 29 16:28:14 <erlehmann> DocScrutinizer05 is it possible to install maemo onto android phones?
Jun 29 16:28:22 <DocScrutinizer05> council doesn't need technical skills (although it helps), but first and foremost a dedication to maemo community and a sense of organizing and handling stuff
Jun 29 16:28:28 <erlehmann> DocScrutinizer05 i like it more than android, especially the development process.
Jun 29 16:28:36 <erlehmann> i just write desktop code for low resolution!
Jun 29 16:28:37 <erlehmann> :)
Jun 29 16:28:51 <DocScrutinizer05> erlehmann: short answer: no
Jun 29 16:29:03 <erlehmann> does a long answer exist?
Jun 29 16:29:11 <DocScrutinizer05> a tad longer answer:
Jun 29 16:29:14 <DocScrutinizer05> ~fptf
Jun 29 16:29:15 <erlehmann> is it because of the proprietary bits?
Jun 29 16:29:15 <infobot> well, fptf is the Fremantle Porting Task Force, see http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=91308
Jun 29 16:29:34 <erlehmann> thx
Jun 29 16:29:37 <DocScrutinizer05> yw
Jun 29 16:30:08 <erlehmann> > we try to patch the kernel device drivers so the new device looks like the the N900 one to userland
Jun 29 16:30:09 <erlehmann> if that can't be done we try to RE userland blobs or binary-patch them or write bridging-adapters from one ABI to the other
Jun 29 16:30:10 <erlehmann> hard core
Jun 29 16:30:32 <nokiabot_> how to get todays logs
Jun 29 16:30:42 <DocScrutinizer05> /topic
Jun 29 16:31:02 <nokiabot_> erlehmann: drivers and arteticture
Jun 29 16:31:53 <nokiabot_> ~infobot
Jun 29 16:31:54 <infobot> i guess infobot is A program on the IRC that helps users, ask it to do something by putting a ~ and then say a command!
Jun 29 16:32:19 <erlehmann> ~crash
Jun 29 16:32:19 <infobot> if you have apps that just can't help but keep shooting themselves in the head, and causing you to lose unsaved data, have a look through /proc/kcore and you might be able to salvage some of the lost data: 'cat /proc/kcore | strings > kcore-file' then 'less kcore-file' works great with netscape that always likes to crash in the middle of typing in forms submissions text boxes.
Jun 29 16:32:35 <DocScrutinizer05> ~query
Jun 29 16:32:36 <infobot> talk dirty to me! Preferably, do so after you have typed "/query infobot" which should open a new window/tab/whatever with most irc clients. You can talk to me all you like and don't annoy other people with endless queries. Be aware that the stuff you write is logged, so don't get too 1337 :)
Jun 29 16:32:36 <erlehmann> lele
Jun 29 16:32:39 <erlehmann> good call
Jun 29 16:32:48 <nokiabot_> ~maemo
Jun 29 16:33:30 <nokiabot_> ~query
Jun 29 16:33:30 <infobot> talk dirty to me! Preferably, do so after you have typed "/query infobot" which should open a new window/tab/whatever with most irc clients. You can talk to me all you like and don't annoy other people with endless queries. Be aware that the stuff you write is logged, so don't get too 1337 :)
Jun 29 16:33:49 <nokiabot_> hurray 
Jun 29 16:34:42 <nokiabot_> ~nokiabot
Jun 29 16:35:21 <erlehmann> > For others (e.g. dialer) rewriting is not an option
Jun 29 16:35:21 <erlehmann> interesting
Jun 29 16:35:27 <nokiabot_> err
Jun 29 16:35:32 <erlehmann> i would have thought a dialer just craps out AT commands
Jun 29 16:36:48 <nokiabot_> ~ping
Jun 29 16:36:49 <infobot> ~pong
Jun 29 16:36:56 <nokiabot_> yay
Jun 29 16:37:32 <nokiabot_> ~ding
Jun 29 16:37:32 <infobot> dong
Jun 29 16:37:40 <nokiabot_> yes
Jun 29 16:38:19 <nokiabot_> hi,infobot
Jun 29 16:38:28 <nokiabot_> oh
Jun 29 16:40:24 <DocScrutinizer05> ~tell nokiabot_ about query
Jun 29 16:40:52 <DocScrutinizer05> ~tell nokiabot_ about help
Jun 29 16:41:08 <nokiabot_> i am on a new tab with infobot
Jun 29 16:41:16 <nokiabot_> :P
Jun 29 16:41:22 <DocScrutinizer05> finally :-)
Jun 29 16:42:15 <nokiabot_> yeah it got a sexy voice :D
Jun 29 16:42:56 <nokiabot_> err where it is logged
Jun 29 16:42:56 <DocScrutinizer05> [general notice] due to karma completely broken, current council will *have to* ignore resp *guess* karma for candidates applying to elections for next council. Extended nomination period ending today! Maemo about to fall into pieces since not enough candidates fro forming a new council stepped up and volunteered yet
Jun 29 16:43:30 <nokiabot_> *for
Jun 29 16:44:18 <nokiabot_> will maemo go to hell now ???
Jun 29 16:46:40 <DocScrutinizer05> well, probably yes
Jun 29 16:47:57 <erlehmann> DocScrutinizer05 what consequences will this have?
Jun 29 16:48:44 <DocScrutinizer05> what consequences does it have when the management of any entity vanishes?
Jun 29 16:49:31 <nokiabot_> its going to be like when you flush ;-
Jun 29 16:49:52 <DocScrutinizer05> first most obvious consequence: no new maintianers for *anything* since they have to get decided upon resp approved by council
Jun 29 16:50:27 <DocScrutinizer05> "apply for maintainership of this package" ? forget it!
Jun 29 16:51:06 <DocScrutinizer05> "request upload permissions to maemo-extras-devel" ? forget it!
Jun 29 16:51:42 <kerio> ~pali
Jun 29 16:51:42 <infobot> extra, extra, read all about it, pali is http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pali/
Jun 29 16:51:43 <nokiabot_> basically whole infra will come to a halt
Jun 29 16:52:55 <DocScrutinizer05> kerio: I hope that wasm't on topic
Jun 29 16:53:16 <kerio> how can that be on topic
Jun 29 16:53:42 <kerio> i just had to get the link to pali's website because it's literally nowhere to be found on google for some reason
Jun 29 16:55:39 <nokiabot_> damm that site is blazing fast like i am on lte
Jun 29 20:45:42 <DocScrutinizer05> wth? does anybody else see weird new URL and a need to reauthenticate at tmo?
Jun 29 20:46:12 <DocScrutinizer05> URL with a s=ko48224889wr789w4p8924 parameter that never before been there
Jun 29 20:46:46 <Sicelo> seems still fine with me
Jun 29 20:46:54 <DocScrutinizer05> o.O
Jun 29 20:47:31 <DocScrutinizer05> session parameter in URL, that's new
Jun 29 20:48:13 <DocScrutinizer05> sth on my system went south really terribly during last few hours
Jun 29 20:48:40 <DocScrutinizer05> akonadi-server-mailtransport cocked up eating one CPU and 4GB RAM
Jun 29 20:49:31 <DocScrutinizer05> then KDE plasmabar systray switched back to old icons, then mail accounts that worked great suddenly complain about expired certs for TLS
Jun 29 20:50:10 * DocScrutinizer05 goes rebooting *now*
Jun 29 20:50:20 <DocScrutinizer05> as much as it may hurt
Jun 29 21:13:47 <b1101> damn ebay sellers who don't take their own pictures. 
Jun 29 21:55:10 <magao> argh, I forgot what the command to reset the normal mode/flight mode on N800 was when it doesn't show up in the device mode menu
Jun 29 21:56:00 <magao> can anyone help me? :-)
Jun 29 21:56:42 <magao> oh, now I found it online, sorry
Jun 29 21:58:55 <magao> it doesn't work :-(
Jun 29 22:01:37 <magao> but echo normal>/var/lib/mce/mode works
Jun 29 22:01:44 <magao> sorry for bothering you.
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