**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Aug 12 02:59:58 2014 Aug 12 07:12:15 8Celebrate 9Zaraday! Aug 12 13:11:50 ~tabletsdev Aug 12 13:11:50 rumour has it, tabletsdev is http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/ http://wiki.maemo.org/Tabletsdev , http://tabletsdev.maemo.org (all defunct, thanks Nokia) or the nice site http://www.fladnag.net/downloads/telephone/n900/tools/, or http://www.mmnt.net/db/0/0/93.81.63.203/repositories/skeiron.org/skeiron.org/tablets-dev/maemo_dev_env_downloads Aug 12 13:12:16 ~emmc Aug 12 13:12:16 emmc is probably magnet:?xt=urn:btih:402fb5cc8a48ecbc18a77c9cf70d869a775bcf53&dn=RX-51%5F2009SE%5F10.2010.13-2.VANILLA%5FPR%5FEMMC%5FMR0%5FARM.bin or https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4105928/RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.VANILLA_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.torrent, or http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2010/5/--FID--A0A22YHFSICNA/--LID--FiRe1275051276916/AE98ED9D_RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.CENTRAL-EUROPE_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin Aug 12 13:15:13 oh we bittorrent now Aug 12 13:15:14 neat Aug 12 13:16:58 Just an idea for those long links that could they be updated with somekind of short url? They would just look a bit neater like that - unless those are supposed to be that long for some practical reason that I am not aware of. Aug 12 14:54:06 * Sicelo is one of the fools who diislikes all the 'short' urls Aug 12 15:30:35 * DocScrutinizer51 too Aug 12 15:31:21 the URL not only provides a function, it also transports info to the reader Aug 12 15:53:48 Its alright :D we all have different likings of these things ^^ Aug 12 18:15:26 is between 400mA and 450mA a normal input current for charging a n900 that is turned off? Aug 12 18:38:06 iirc it changes at different points along the charge cycly Aug 12 18:38:10 *cycle Aug 12 18:38:43 well, it's not in emergency charging mode Aug 12 18:39:14 but it was pretty empty Aug 12 18:44:50 ~joergrw Aug 12 18:44:55 ~joerg-rw Aug 12 18:45:02 hmm Aug 12 18:46:15 ~joerg_rw Aug 12 18:47:12 ~joer Aug 12 18:47:14 ~joerg Aug 12 18:47:15 i guess joerg is a natural born EE, ex HW-developer and engineer of Openmoko, now mainly involved in maintenance of maemo and N900. Usually known as DocScrutinizer. Initiator of http://neo900.org, or _the_ N900-Wizard! Aug 12 18:47:34 ~joerg-tools Aug 12 18:47:58 ~jrtools Aug 12 18:47:59 rumour has it, jrtools is http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools Aug 12 18:48:59 after emegrency if good remember switching to normal mode charging but good to confirm... Aug 12 18:49:11 honestly: http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/jrbme/ Aug 12 18:49:29 anyway, DocScrutinizer51 should be able to explain better ;) Aug 12 18:51:28 first of all: where from comes that number of 400 to 450? Aug 12 18:52:27 from measurement. Aug 12 18:53:00 sorry, of WHAT? Aug 12 18:53:30 measurement of the current going through the usb cable Aug 12 18:53:42 AHAAAA Aug 12 18:54:09 I don't have any fancy bme scripts Aug 12 18:54:15 (or nonfancy ones) Aug 12 18:54:16 this sounds pretty ok when USB is hooked up to a PC Aug 12 18:54:28 ok (: Aug 12 18:55:07 I poked at the usb receptacle with a soldering iron and it *seems* like the usb connection is stable now Aug 12 18:55:33 but I could be imagining that of course. Aug 12 18:55:48 what was the problem? Aug 12 18:56:27 * Sicelo still needs to change his receptacle (although can charge at least, with a bit of patience) Aug 12 18:56:55 the original problem that caused me to poke at the usb receptacle with a soldering iron? that the usb connection was incredibly unstable and kept dropping Aug 12 18:57:14 i'm happy for you then :) Aug 12 18:57:44 'fixed' mine, only to find out that it is actually the receptacle which is bad :'( Aug 12 18:58:29 while I was at it I also scratched off a bit of the pcb screen and put a big blob of solder on there connected to the receptacle Aug 12 18:59:27 well, you probably shouldn't try this at home, but I ripped off the sdcard-holder and the EMI cage around the chip under it and then poked at the pins of the receptacle with my soldering iron Aug 12 19:00:03 * Sicelo did the same, haha .. it helped at least with charging Aug 12 19:00:14 ah, good Aug 12 19:00:40 ~usbfix Aug 12 19:00:40 usbfix is probably http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75920 - and **NEVER** use epoxy (unless you want to seal your device for underwater), or http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PL2862BF3631A5C1AA&feature=player_detailpage&v=fYz5nIHH0iY#t=1861, you will basically need two irons: a small good one and a 60+ Watt Aug 12 19:00:42 well it's charging with 400mA now and seems pretty stable Aug 12 19:01:04 so until it stops working I'll call it fixed Aug 12 19:01:09 there aren't any shops here which i could trust with replacing my receptacle, so i will have to brave this myself some day soon Aug 12 19:01:55 I wonder if there are affordable desoldering irons with flexible clamps Aug 12 19:02:52 would make that a lot easier Aug 12 19:03:47 i've looked at some youtube videos of replacing the receptacle on some samsung phones .. with a bit of care i guess i will be able to pull it through Aug 12 19:04:02 Sicelo: desoldering the USB without ruining the PCB might get tricky. You should use hot air until receptacle simply falls off the PCB Aug 12 19:04:50 i have been looking for places where they can lend me one ;) Aug 12 19:05:27 hot air would be the best probably Aug 12 19:05:44 Sicelo: any hackerspaces near you? Aug 12 19:05:47 or... you literally cut the old receptacle into pieces Aug 12 19:06:23 but that's not recommended method Aug 12 19:07:48 when you can reach to them, you could mill off the 5 contacts from the receptacle Aug 12 19:08:30 so you don't tear off the PCB pads when unsoldering the USB body Aug 12 19:10:15 yeah, but then you still need to solder a new one on somehow Aug 12 19:10:22 the problem is: you can heat up the steel sleeve to make all 4 mech posts' solder melt. But you need to take care of the 5 contacts same time Aug 12 19:11:26 otherwise you WILL tear off the pads of the 5 contacts Aug 12 19:12:30 dremel helps a lot Aug 12 19:13:07 or just hot air, and cover the neighbor stuff with alu foil Aug 12 19:14:09 perfect idea with aluminium foil ;) Aug 12 19:14:31 because the videos mentioned some tape, but that's very expensive here Aug 12 19:17:56 need an industrial hot air gun though Aug 12 19:18:02 can't do that with a hair dryer (: Aug 12 19:18:42 atten 801D Aug 12 19:18:51 :D Aug 12 19:19:06 hehe, i found one today actually .. but didn't borrow it yet because i want to the job when i have enough time, patience, and steady hands ;) Aug 12 19:19:08 :D Aug 12 19:22:45 something like this one: http://i00.i.aliimg.com/photo/v0/252351418/Hot_Air_Gun_tool.jpg Aug 12 19:22:53 you think it's overkill? Aug 12 19:27:48 this sort of hot air gun will most likely fry your whole PCB Aug 12 19:28:41 haha Aug 12 19:28:44 way too much air flow, and barely any *idea* of temperature Aug 12 19:30:23 guessed so Aug 12 19:31:24 will check if i can get smaller one. if not, dremel then Aug 12 19:33:05 sory it's atten 858D Aug 12 19:35:35 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vva2t21sOAs Aug 12 19:35:47 ceeeeeeeeaaaaap Aug 12 19:35:56 cheap even Aug 12 19:36:16 and a friggin useful tool Aug 12 20:09:30 Hi, after upgrade to 1.10.5 cutecube me during download videos restarts phone nokia n900, comes some repairs and versions that and we'll go at least as well as the previous version? Aug 12 20:16:29 no offence Pepek, but it is not too clear what you are saying (at least to me) Aug 12 20:17:08 (not to me either) Aug 12 20:21:44 if you're looking to install previous version, you have to use `apt-get` Aug 12 20:24:42 upgrade to cutecube is quite wrong, because then you can not download videos from youtube from my phone Aug 12 20:24:59 I tried to downgrade again and managed without rebooting download video :) apt-get install cutecube=1.10.4 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Aug 13 02:59:58 2014