**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Sep 05 02:59:59 2014 Sep 05 14:11:30 http://nokiaexperts.com/nokia-n900-tips-bluetooth-keyboard-external-display/ is this article accurate wrt bluetooth keyboard support? Sep 05 14:11:33 no punctuation or numbers Sep 05 14:23:30 * Tekk_ found the tmo page on them Sep 05 19:17:22 Does anyone happen to know where I can grab libnl1-dev for the n900? Sep 05 19:27:25 ~pr131 Sep 05 19:27:27 somebody said combined was the rootfs fiasco image of maemo. For N900 latest (PR1.3.1) see http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2011/9/--FID--A0A22MVWFVFAM/--LID--FiRe1317015685654/RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin, or http://galif.eu/nokia/ Sep 05 19:49:39 Hello, i have developped an android app and i'd like to run it on my Nokia N900. I installed apkenv but when i run it i get an error message saying "Not a native .apk". Do you know how i could fix it? I found a forum topic saying that it's because it can only be ran by dalvik but not how to fix it. Is this a setting in the manifest or something? Sep 05 19:51:26 kerio: Your saying that libnl1-dev exists on pr1.3.1? Sep 05 19:52:31 no Sep 05 19:52:36 not everything is about you Sep 05 19:52:41 haha Sep 05 19:52:44 true Sep 05 19:53:04 Do you happen to know where a prebuilt package for libnl1-dev for the n900 happens to reside by chance though? Sep 05 19:53:36 no Sep 05 19:53:53 ok. Thanks for answering =) If you don't, I doubt it exists Sep 05 19:54:04 Sadly, it seems that way for a lot of common packages Sep 05 19:54:04 not been buid ' asume Sep 05 19:54:29 Well, it's why I'm developing my own distro for the n900 Sep 05 19:54:30 I'm tired of the dependency hell that is maemo Sep 05 19:54:39 the .debs won't be proper, but they will work Sep 05 19:54:44 s/buid ' asume/built I assume/ Sep 05 19:54:45 sixwheeledbeast meant: not been built I assume Sep 05 19:54:49 That's all that matters in the end anyways, the end product works like it should Sep 05 19:55:09 Just need a nifty name is all =) Sep 05 19:56:36 * Sicelo wonders where stryngs problem is .. Sep 05 19:57:26 * sixwheeledbeast agrees Sep 05 19:59:24 I can't do apt-get install libnl1-dev Sep 05 19:59:55 That's the problem. Some of the most basic pentest tools do not exist on the "official" maemo repos. This is sad because the n900 is one of the best pentest tools in the industry Sep 05 20:00:43 The #maemo community is not concerned with hacking. And that is OK. I'm not hating here. To me, the #maemo community is concerned with making cool stuff for the worst smartphone ever built. Sep 05 20:00:56 :) Sep 05 20:01:11 If only the #maemo community could shift gears and realize what a beauty they behold, zOMG, there would be no stop to the n900 Sep 05 20:01:17 That's all =) Sep 05 20:01:23 I still love you guys/gals. Sep 05 20:01:47 you aware the community is working on N900-reinvented? Sep 05 20:02:24 Yes. But it ain't about hacking. Again, it's going to be revolving around the "smartphoneness" of it. That of which has never, will never, and does not currently exist. As a smartphone, the n900 was the worst idea ever. Sep 05 20:02:40 I'm blown away people actually use it as a phone for daily purposes Sep 05 20:03:03 I'd rather have an iphone 3g than to try to use my brick as a phone. BUT, for a computer in my pocket? zOMG, the n900 rocks and it rocks hard Sep 05 20:03:08 when did you get your N900? Sep 05 20:03:15 maybe... 2012? Sep 05 20:03:20 Yeah 2012, august timeframe Sep 05 20:03:34 ok :) Sep 05 20:03:48 I had an iphone 3g in like 09 or something i think Sep 05 20:04:38 Either way. I'm not mad, but again, I was sadly proven right in my thoughts =(. Oh well, if anyone is interested in working on a new n900 project please let me know. It's almost ready for public release. It's very geared around pentesting, and it starts at where the PwnPhone left off Sep 05 20:06:17 your thoughts are very very very mistaken Sep 05 20:07:13 Ok. Aircrack-ng. What version do we have on the n900? 1.1. What is the current version? Aircrack-ng 1.2 beta3 r2413 Sep 05 20:07:47 Again, it's ok. I'm not hating =) Like I said though, I intend to change that =) Sep 05 20:07:59 Just need a nifty name is all =) Sep 05 20:08:24 name for the product, you mean? Sep 05 20:08:54 Yes =) Sep 05 20:10:14 And yes I realize, if it weren't for the #maemo community; idea like the PwnPhone would have never been born. So please don't take it as rudeness =/ Sep 05 20:10:26 You guys/gals are wonderful. You keep the n900 alive. Sep 05 20:10:34 I just need a Hacker Friendly phone Sep 05 20:10:43 and by that I mean one for Pentesting Sep 05 20:16:54 stryngs: have you checked the sdk repo? Sep 05 20:18:46 I am sorry but the N900 is a good phone. better than ios and android IMO Sep 05 20:19:24 Tekk_: extras and extras-devel is all I know of. Do you happen to have a link for the SDK handy? Sep 05 20:20:16 http://repository.maemo.org/ Sep 05 20:20:32 deb http://repository.maemo.org/ fremantle/sdk free non-free Sep 05 20:20:35 that? Sep 05 20:21:05 stryngs: /me points to the warning there though :P Sep 05 20:21:17 heh, so it does exist Sep 05 20:21:19 you're not supposed to actually use it on the phone apparently Sep 05 20:21:25 Yeah, its for scratchbox Sep 05 20:21:29 hence why its not on my phone Sep 05 20:21:38 But.... Its either break debian rules and hack a deb Sep 05 20:21:40 or use it Sep 05 20:22:33 I wonder why they dont want you to use the repos on the phone Sep 05 20:22:38 Any takers n that? Sep 05 20:24:22 probably the usual dependency hell :P Sep 05 20:24:35 Yeah, a sign of the times =/ Sep 05 20:25:12 scratchbox is not a normal linux env and thus packages make ... "assumptions" Sep 05 20:25:36 presence of /scratchbox, running under fakeroot, etc. Sep 05 20:27:02 does anyone else experience charging being picky when on low battery? Sep 05 20:33:42 either not charging or not detecting that it should be charging Sep 05 22:42:53 * Tekk_ really hopes that his usb port isn't busted :/ Sep 05 22:43:08 I'm nervous about having to take a soldering iron to my phone :P Sep 05 22:45:35 ~usb-fix Sep 05 22:45:35 methinks usbfix is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75920 - and **NEVER** use epoxy (unless you want to seal your device for underwater), or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYz5nIHH0iY#t=1866, you will basically need two irons: a small good one (or better hot-air reflow) and a 60+ Watt Sep 05 22:48:10 sixwheeledbeast: annoyingly I'm not at home atm Sep 05 22:48:14 although it seems it's charging over usb now Sep 05 22:48:23 but I still can't get it to charge on the ac plub, maybe that's what's broken Sep 05 22:48:34 possibly Sep 05 22:48:35 who decided that microusb was a good idea for charging? :/ Sep 05 22:48:52 microusb is a good idea. Sep 05 22:49:00 too fragile Sep 05 22:49:14 my last (non-n900) phone gave me trouble too after long enough Sep 05 22:49:22 It was designed for this purpose Sep 05 22:49:55 the hell.... Sep 05 22:49:59 however, the way it was surface mounted on the N900 was a bad idea. Sep 05 22:50:10 apparently gravity affects electrons, who knew Sep 05 22:50:17 the phone will only charge if I'm holding the laptop above it :P Sep 05 22:50:29 the socket idea itself works Sep 05 23:01:26 hm, I think that the insides themselves are wearing down actually Sep 05 23:02:02 the fit is pretty loose within the socket but the socket itself seems solid Sep 05 23:02:06 so I guess I just need to replace that Sep 05 23:11:17 micro usb should reduce wear to the port this is why the design is good Sep 05 23:21:07 Tekk_: note you're more likely to PREVENT breaking it, than to fix it later Sep 05 23:21:25 Luke-Jr: yeah Sep 05 23:21:41 [22:50:17] the phone will only charge if I'm holding the laptop above it :P <-- sounds like a bad wire or USB port barely holding on Sep 05 23:21:55 yeah, the wires Sep 05 23:22:02 I've found one that seems to be working rather happily Sep 05 23:31:08 Charger that came with my N900 is now dead, wires broke Sep 05 23:33:38 ShadowJK: I find it really weird that two wires broke at nearly the same time though Sep 05 23:33:45 probably just a freakish coincidence Sep 06 00:24:50 I'm using a cheap @$$ $1 cable to charge... unfortunately it charges so much faster than my AC10 Not sure why that AC10C is so crappy. Sep 06 00:35:29 is dead Sep 06 00:40:14 yeah probably... Right now I'm using an LG 700mA and a Pantech 2.0A USB chargers... make a wild guess which one charges my n900 faster... Sep 06 01:03:06 anyone know what's in the latest ssu update? Sep 06 01:03:33 ah Sep 06 01:03:37 http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/ChangelogStable#21.2011.38-1Smaemo7_.2803.09.2014.29 Sep 06 01:06:55 I'd like to know as well....even though testing is running well for me Sep 06 01:14:25 hmm... not sure why supl.nokia.com is still not working for me. Sep 06 01:14:54 still using t-mobile's supl server, which is annoying because I can't use wifi to access it, have to use 3G Sep 06 01:18:36 why not supl.google.com ? Sep 06 01:57:14 Call me paranoid but I'd rather M$ know where I am than google at this point... Sep 06 01:58:04 +1 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Sep 06 02:59:59 2014