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Sep 09 18:04:54 <M4rtinK> on desktop linux the tiles should be in
Sep 09 18:05:00 <M4rtinK> ~/.modrana/maps
Sep 09 18:05:13 <M4rtinK> and make sure you are downloading to "files"
Sep 09 18:06:10 <sixwheeledbeast> so I have a OSM folder in .modrana/maps I copy that to /MyDocs/.maps
Sep 09 18:06:21 <M4rtinK> basically
Sep 09 18:06:30 <M4rtinK> just check the folder structure
Sep 09 18:06:41 <sixwheeledbeast> I see I was looking in .modrana on the N900
Sep 09 18:06:44 <M4rtinK> it should be easy to see how it works
Sep 09 18:07:04 <M4rtinK> that would place it in internal storage, which would be an issue :)
Sep 09 18:07:31 <M4rtinK> but there would be less problems with many small files due to a better FS
Sep 09 18:08:05 <sixwheeledbeast> Yep I understand. I didn't realise the .maps folder was for modrana
Sep 09 18:08:13 <M4rtinK> BTW, you can set the path where the tiles should go in the ~/.modrana/user_config.conf file
Sep 09 18:08:30 <M4rtinK> well, it is a kind of de-facto standard on Maemo
Sep 09 18:08:41 <sixwheeledbeast> can you do that with the GUI too?
Sep 09 18:08:53 <M4rtinK> I think Maemo Mapper/Mappero or Maep might be the first one using it
Sep 09 18:09:04 <M4rtinK> not at the moment
Sep 09 18:09:22 <M4rtinK> but I guess it could be a RFE :)
Sep 09 18:09:39 <M4rtinK> BTW, you can also import the tiles to your sqlite tile database
Sep 09 18:09:57 <M4rtinK> if you are using that to store tiles on your N900: http://modrana.org/trac/wiki/SQLiteTilesImportPerlScriptEN
Sep 09 18:10:28 <sixwheeledbeast> import? I have both desktop and N900 set to sqlite.
Sep 09 18:11:04 <M4rtinK> well, then you have a problem :)
Sep 09 18:11:35 <sixwheeledbeast> oh
Sep 09 18:12:04 <M4rtinK> as there is no way to either export or merge two sqlite tile databases
Sep 09 18:12:45 <M4rtinK> there are no technical limitations preventing this, but no one did that just yet
Sep 09 18:13:15 <M4rtinK> either as modRana functionality or as an external program, like that above mentioned Perl script
Sep 09 18:14:45 <M4rtinK> but it is perfectly doable and quite easy to do (hint hint ;-) )
Sep 09 18:15:11 <sixwheeledbeast> I was hoping to just overwrite the N900's existing db
Sep 09 18:15:30 <M4rtinK> oh, that works of course
Sep 09 18:15:53 <M4rtinK> if you replace the database file, there is no issue
Sep 09 18:16:11 <M4rtinK> you of course loose any tiles that were in the file on the N900
Sep 09 18:16:57 <sixwheeledbeast> I still have the odd crash batch downloading tiles with the N900 so I thought I'd DL large amounts with a desktop and copy over.
Sep 09 18:17:17 <M4rtinK> the format is just a simple sqlite database, sou there should transfer from PC just fine
Sep 09 18:17:36 <sixwheeledbeast> great I'll try that now
Sep 09 18:17:41 <M4rtinK> sure, I know many people do that
Sep 09 18:18:00 <M4rtinK> let me know if you have any issues :)
Sep 09 18:18:20 <M4rtinK> and maybe you can write about your experience on the Maemo wiki or somewhere else ? ;-)
Sep 09 18:28:30 <sixwheeledbeast> is there a full globe sqlite download somewhere?
Sep 09 18:39:25 <M4rtinK> I don't think anyone is hosting modRana compatible datbases anywhere :)
Sep 09 18:39:42 <M4rtinK> BTW, don't forget to the transfer both the lookup & storage databases
Sep 09 18:40:37 <M4rtinK> (it is like this to work around the 3.7 GB limit on file size on FAT32, there could be multiple storage databases, each up to 3.7 GB big)
Sep 09 18:41:10 <M4rtinK> BTW, this is the "specification": http://modrana.org/trac/wiki/SQLiteStorageDescriptionEN
Sep 09 18:42:33 <bencoh> by "modrana databases" you mean "tiles" ?
Sep 09 18:42:58 <bencoh> or sqlite tiles storage ?
Sep 09 18:43:20 <M4rtinK> yeah, I mean the sqlite database modRana uses to store map tiles
Sep 09 18:43:52 <M4rtinK> BTW, there is another unrelated sqlite database used to store POI
Sep 09 18:46:49 <M4rtinK> AFK, back in about an hour
Sep 09 18:52:44 <kerio> M4rtinK: is there a guiless program to pregenerate a database?
Sep 09 18:53:06 <kerio> possibly something for recent systems
Sep 09 18:57:52 <sixwheeledbeast> I copied lookup and store files all seems to work fine.
Sep 09 18:59:40 <sixwheeledbeast> I have *-journal files which I haven't copied over.
Sep 09 20:18:30 <M4rtinK> sixwheeledbeast: you can safely ignore the journal files
Sep 09 20:18:47 <M4rtinK> AFAIK they are some temporary files created by sqlite that are sometimes left behind
Sep 09 20:18:49 <sixwheeledbeast> :) thanks M4rtinK
Sep 09 20:19:09 <M4rtinK> kerio: how do you mean pregenerate ?
Sep 09 20:19:34 <M4rtinK> like create an empty tile database file, just with the schema ?
Sep 09 20:20:07 <M4rtinK> I guess the already mentioned batch import script could be used for something like that: http://modrana.org/trac/wiki/SQLiteTilesImportPerlScriptEN
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