**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Sep 17 02:59:58 2014 Sep 17 07:52:09 moin :) Sep 17 12:26:06 Has anyone experiences about the cheap power button and ribbon parts for N9 on Ebay? A bit difficult to use the phone without power button... Sep 17 14:33:12 hello Sep 17 14:33:48 havin 3 n900s with broken usb, I wanted to sort out how to fix them Sep 17 14:34:26 take it apart, take a soldering iron, poke at the usb receptacle, check if it's fixed Sep 17 14:34:29 done Sep 17 14:34:35 have you checked how badly they're damaged? Sep 17 14:34:39 ~usbfix Sep 17 14:34:39 usbfix is, like, http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75920 - and **NEVER** use epoxy (unless you want to seal your device for underwater), or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYz5nIHH0iY#t=1866, you will basically need two irons: a small good one (or better hot-air reflow) and a 60+ Watt Sep 17 14:34:49 I have tried to solder one, which was unsuccessful (pcb usb points destroyed) Sep 17 14:35:24 yeah I didn't succeed either with one, just too cramped to get an iron there properly and a couple of pads eventually got off Sep 17 14:35:46 fortunately two phones still work :) Sep 17 14:35:56 hot air reflow tool helps if you don't have a fine enough iron Sep 17 14:36:03 now I have read up about usb pads, wireless charging. and asked myself if I could fix it with that Sep 17 14:36:07 yeah wish I had the tools for that Sep 17 14:36:48 usb pads under battery, respectivley.. Sep 17 14:36:49 hot air rework stations aren't much more expensive than soldering stations Sep 17 14:36:51 I'm not exactly sure how the charging circuit works but how would you implement wireless charging for it? Sep 17 14:37:20 for one I could do a dumb one only charging the battery Sep 17 14:37:34 would the phone know when it's being charged? Sep 17 14:37:45 or would the battery just go up Sep 17 14:37:59 second one.. Sep 17 14:38:12 estel also stated "state, you need to either solder it to next components in line (cutting out part of shield), or solder it to the testpads under battery, and put port itself in it's destined place. The latter is easier, but in both cases, you need some *really* thin wires." Sep 17 14:38:14 well, that's not too bad and fixable sorta with simple script or so Sep 17 14:38:31 the phone uses a coulombmeter to measure charging and discharging Sep 17 14:38:50 bypassing that would be a little problematic i think Sep 17 14:39:45 would it need to be bypassed? Sep 17 14:40:00 what i have read up, the phone would not be seeing it charging at all, but the battery charges properly, if a charging selectronic part of a wireless charging component is inbetween Sep 17 14:40:21 and more importantly, would stop charging as well Sep 17 14:40:37 but the phone could read the charge anyway so you could have some thing on the desktop checking every now and then if the charge has gone up or down Sep 17 14:40:43 I guess? Sep 17 14:41:28 but it also seems possible to use the usb pads to charge, alsbeit without some security circuits the microusb has Sep 17 14:42:19 yeah I checked some pics about that but didn't want to go there really, though I didn't bother to check which pads were ripped off and if they were necessary or perhaps safe to connect to test pins Sep 17 14:42:54 perhaps when I have like a 3 month vacation I'll look into that again :p Sep 17 14:43:02 I am no solering master myself... Sep 17 14:43:07 soldering Sep 17 14:43:18 heh me neither, I'm really beginner with electronics Sep 17 14:43:38 well, I just thought the wireless to battery thing, I could do that... Sep 17 14:43:49 at least it would add some value if it works Sep 17 14:44:12 I will try to follow that idea.. Sep 17 14:45:48 annother issue Sep 17 14:45:50 There is a small battery built into the N900 Sep 17 14:46:42 for holding date/time etc, I think I have read somewhere that there was a kernel issue which drained it Sep 17 14:46:51 to death Sep 17 14:47:26 now that one could buy it obviously at http://www.gerry-mobilfunk.de/9991965.html Sep 17 14:48:03 has somebody infos about a fix of this (switching battery and kernel problem fixed?) Sep 17 14:50:31 Yep there is a battery inside... Sep 17 14:52:52 soldered on pcb Sep 17 14:55:02 http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90864 Sep 17 14:55:14 hard to find stuff on forum.... Sep 17 16:34:33 troow: kernel was not the one draining that battery Sep 17 16:39:48 any ideas if its possible to switcg off the screen of chosing language/timezone/date after start n900? Sep 17 16:41:00 drathir: you can uninstall it Sep 17 16:46:19 kerio: hmmm but system not go broke with do that ? more i would prefer to hash switch off in startup script than uninstall but not sure if that is fossible... Sep 17 16:46:28 didn't break here Sep 17 16:47:23 because all this settings i can setuuup from settings menu no idea why showing that monit after battery off... Sep 17 16:48:27 you get that on every reboot? Sep 17 16:49:27 Sicelo: only when battery off if good remember and prevent me to using phone w/o screen because i cant type next ;/ Sep 17 16:50:09 maybe small things but block startup of os... Sep 17 16:51:03 Sicelo: everyone gets that when they remove the battery Sep 17 16:51:05 the backup battery is shit Sep 17 16:57:25 backup battery? Sep 17 16:57:34 kerio: maybe remember which package contain that? Sep 17 16:57:51 drathir: maybe you figure it out for yourself Sep 17 16:58:43 NIN101: yes is possible to switch bateries w/o loosing data, but only one i able to do that no idea how... Sep 17 16:58:58 ofc off phone Sep 17 17:02:09 kerio: osso-startup-wizzard? Sep 17 17:02:25 drathir: DUDE I DONT REMEMBER GAWD Sep 17 17:02:35 i dunno it feels like it could be the right one Sep 17 17:02:37 check the package description Sep 17 17:05:14 kerio: oh i understand, sorry pls not be angry because of me... Sep 17 17:05:31 :c Sep 17 18:00:33 WooHoo....CVE-2014-0487 Sep 17 18:01:18 stryngs: want to link a real cve? :) Sep 17 18:01:25 Description Sep 17 18:01:26 ** RESERVED ** This candidate has been reserved by an organization or individual that will use it when announcing a new security problem. When the candidate has been publicized, the details for this candidate will be provided. Sep 17 18:01:50 it is real Sep 17 18:01:56 apt is fucked =) Sep 17 18:02:03 hopefully maemo patches or backports Sep 17 18:05:29 I heard you don't want to touch apt sources Sep 17 18:07:55 not sure who you "heard" this from Humpelstilzchen Sep 17 18:10:44 Humpelstilzchen: what you need to be careful about is using apt Sep 17 18:11:00 dependencies are incredibly broken in maemo, you need to be very careful whenever you actually use apt to keep your entire system from being autoremoved Sep 17 18:11:37 .oO(someone should fix them) Sep 17 21:29:43 Ah that will be why ubuntu have rolled out a update for apt then. Sep 17 21:29:54 ~bupbat Sep 17 21:29:55 bupbat is probably use the capacitive type, LiIon are breaking during 12 months, or http://www.digikey.de/product-detail/de/PAS414HR-VG1/587-2157-1-ND/1959153, or https://hbe-shop.de/Art-2112777-TAIYO-YUDEN-PAS414HR-VA5R-KONDENSATOR006F-33V-STAKED-COIN, or http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90864 Sep 17 21:31:00 drathir: if you replace your bupbat you will not see startup wizard Sep 17 21:31:20 the device will remember the time and date. Sep 17 21:43:32 ah so the issue with apt is 'apt-get source' doesn't give any indication when the Release file is lacking a signature. Fixed in 1.0.4 Sep 17 22:24:23 sixwheeledbeast: is battery often removed there because broken lcd one is used also like a charger... **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Sep 18 03:00:00 2014