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Oct 10 05:43:29 <grummund> bah. lost my n900 usb charging adaptor :-(
Oct 10 05:43:55 <grummund> the one that converts old nokia power to usb
Oct 10 05:44:31 <grummund> it was noisy/flakey anyway;-/
Oct 10 05:44:39 <grummund> what's the best replacement?
Oct 10 07:55:01 <drathir> grummund: usb cable+ pc i guess is good too, but me atm using rim charger...
Oct 10 12:36:03 <Sicelo> what is the best flash-card application for N90p?
Oct 10 12:36:08 <Sicelo> *N900?
Oct 10 13:03:56 <drathir> Sicelo: /me wonder what You mean saying flash card application...
Oct 10 13:12:05 <Nokiabot> Ta da
Oct 10 13:12:21 <Nokiabot> ~Nokiabot
Oct 10 13:12:21 <infobot> it has been said that nokiabot is so damm sexy !
Oct 10 13:12:40 <stryngs> ~condom
Oct 10 13:12:40 <infobot> from memory, condom is a contraceptive used to aid in prevention of pregnancy and STD's. something your father should have worn when he nailed your mom.
Oct 10 13:12:53 <stryngs> ~std
Oct 10 13:12:53 <infobot> extra, extra, read all about it, std is Sexually Transmitted Disease
Oct 10 13:12:58 <stryngs> ~disease
Oct 10 13:13:54 <Nokiabot> Mother earth and her creations ...
Oct 10 13:14:21 <Nokiabot> bangs his head against a wall
Oct 10 13:16:56 <Nokiabot> no stryngs attached !
Oct 10 13:38:53 <sophomore> When I try to play a video on my n900, the audio lags. It's as if it constantly pauses a second, then plays a second, then pauses, etc.
Oct 10 13:39:04 <sophomore> How to solve?
Oct 10 13:43:21 <drathir> sophomore: from webstream?
Oct 10 13:43:46 <sophomore> drathir no, videos on the device which I scraped from Youtube  
Oct 10 13:44:00 <sophomore> With the built-in media player
Oct 10 13:44:02 <drathir> resolution?
Oct 10 13:44:39 <sophomore> Let me check
Oct 10 13:44:48 <sophomore> Does the resolution affect the audio, though?
Oct 10 13:46:57 * drathir wonder if medianfo is in repo...
Oct 10 13:47:00 <Nokiabot> N900 plays 480p fine some high bitrate 720p videos may play asyncronisly
Oct 10 13:49:41 <drathir> sophomore: if gpu is affected to much i guess is possible to os lagging...
Oct 10 13:50:41 <Nokiabot> Sophomore:try 720p codecs with dsp 400
Oct 10 13:51:03 <sophomore> dsp?
Oct 10 13:51:57 <Nokiabot> Dsp - digital signal processor
Oct 10 13:52:31 <drathir> Nokiabot: yes tweaking needed to play if good remember...
Oct 10 13:54:52 <Nokiabot> Drathir:yes 720p support atleast is some improvement from what n900 initaly had and having it installed helps to play a bit more videos ;)
Oct 10 13:55:31 <sophomore> Yeah, I only have the problem with 720p
Oct 10 13:55:35 <sophomore> Nokiabot how do I do that?
Oct 10 13:57:14 <sophomore> Wait, that's unsafe, isn't it?
Oct 10 13:59:03 <sophomore> Nokiabot I'm not sure if I understand correctly. Are you telling me to overclock?
Oct 10 14:01:42 <Nokiabot> Sophomore:yes i am telling you to 850 mhz with dsp overclock 
Oct 10 14:02:03 <drathir> sophomore: always could be unsafe... but imstructions at forum was with fles to replace...
Oct 10 14:02:08 <Nokiabot> Try that see if the video works
Oct 10 14:02:19 <stryngs> Nokiabot: What is the meaning of life
Oct 10 14:02:47 <Nokiabot> Stryngs:i love you
Oct 10 14:03:04 <stryngs> Nokiabot: >?>?<<EOF?
Oct 10 14:03:29 <Nokiabot> ~Wiki life
Oct 10 14:03:33 <infobot> At http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life (URL), Wikipedia explains: "{{other uses}} {{Redirect|Life on Earth}} {{pp-semi-vandalism|small=yes}} {{automatic taxobox |color=limegreen |name='Life (Biota / Vitae / Eobionti)' |image=Ruwenpflanzen.jpg |image_width=250px |image_caption = Plants in the Rwenzori Mountains, Uganda |subdivision_ranks=Domains and kingdoms |subdivision=Life on Earth: * Non-cellular life (viruses)The 'evolution' of viruses and other ...
Oct 10 14:03:55 <Nokiabot> So that is life .
Oct 10 14:04:12 <Nokiabot> Stryngs ^^^
Oct 10 14:04:17 <stryngs> ~rm -rf /
Oct 10 14:04:18 <infobot> -rf / is an unperson
Oct 10 14:04:22 <drathir> i have somewhere the files, but better - more secure 4You take zip from forum...
Oct 10 14:05:30 <Nokiabot> Drathir isint there a dsp profile thats easy to apply as two clicks :)
Oct 10 14:06:08 <Nokiabot> Stryngs:well life is hell
Oct 10 14:06:43 <drathir> Nokiabot: i guess not because if good remember the dsp modules are replaced fom n9 but not sure for 100% that long time when modding...
Oct 10 14:07:37 <drathir> ~720p
Oct 10 14:07:54 <drathir> ~videofix
Oct 10 14:08:01 <drathir> ~ videofix
Oct 10 14:08:19 <drathir> ~ 720p
Oct 10 14:08:36 <drathir> infobot: botsnack
Oct 10 14:08:36 <infobot> :), drathir
Oct 10 14:08:41 <drathir> ;p
Oct 10 14:08:56 <Nokiabot> ~Video fix
Oct 10 14:09:33 <Nokiabot> ~Botsnack
Oct 10 14:09:34 <infobot> Nokiabot: aw, gee
Oct 10 14:09:50 <Nokiabot> :(
Oct 10 14:11:25 <drathir> ~720p_play
Oct 10 14:11:41 <Nokiabot> Somophore:if you are concerned just overclock when needed :)
Oct 10 14:12:14 <drathir> omap3-dsp-*
Oct 10 14:12:29 <drathir> libgstdsp.so
Oct 10 14:16:25 <drathir> sophomore: look at that names in maemo forum...
Oct 10 14:16:40 <sophomore> Where?
Oct 10 14:17:29 <drathir> http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=63527&page=2
Oct 10 14:17:41 <drathir> i guess... not checked...
Oct 10 14:19:17 <sophomore> What's so special about the names?
Oct 10 14:20:40 <drathir> libgstdsp.so ~720p_play omap3-dsp- the names of files...
Oct 10 14:22:35 <drathir> but files should be somewhere at forum...
Oct 10 14:24:02 <drathir> sophomore: also i suggest open media player to install...
Oct 10 14:26:57 <sophomore> Thanks
Oct 10 14:33:45 <sophomore> Nah, still doesn't work
Oct 10 14:33:53 <sophomore> I guess I'll just scrape videos in 480p
Oct 10 14:39:19 <sixwheeledbeast> drathir: yes, ade ported mediainfo
Oct 10 14:41:52 <sixwheeledbeast> ~720p
Oct 10 14:41:52 <infobot> somebody said 720p was http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=77695
Oct 10 14:42:13 <sixwheeledbeast> sophomore: ^^
Oct 10 14:42:33 <sixwheeledbeast> ~fmg
Oct 10 14:42:34 <infobot> extra, extra, read all about it, fmg is the greatest
Oct 10 14:42:40 <sixwheeledbeast> ~botsnack
Oct 10 14:42:40 <infobot> sixwheeledbeast: thanks
Oct 10 14:42:47 <sophomore> sixwheeledbeast yeah but I'm not overclocking for this. Too dangerous
Oct 10 14:42:53 <sixwheeledbeast> ok
Oct 10 15:03:32 <sixwheeledbeast> Very sensible
Oct 10 15:04:27 <drathir> sixwheeledbeast: thanks a lot good to know and propably goin to install...
Oct 10 15:05:50 <sixwheeledbeast> Hmm, very odd a random reboot. 
Oct 10 15:12:40 <stryngs> sixwheeledbeast: Don't worry, just the NSA ensuring system integrity for you is all.
Oct 10 15:12:46 <stryngs> Nothing to see here, move along now.
Oct 10 15:13:59 <sixwheeledbeast> stryngs: but how did they find me ;)
Oct 10 15:14:16 <stryngs> Duh, they hang out in bathrooms to watch people pee
Oct 10 15:14:25 <stryngs> You must have "interested" them.
Oct 10 15:25:49 <Nokiabot> Ooops 
Oct 10 15:26:47 <Nokiabot> They watched sixwheeledbeast pee :eek:
Oct 10 15:26:59 <Nokiabot> Really ??
Oct 10 15:27:15 <Nokiabot> Are the alive ??
Oct 10 15:27:34 <Nokiabot> After the incident
Oct 10 15:28:50 <Nokiabot> Some must have gone in coma on spot some fainted on the keyboards i bet :p
Oct 10 15:29:08 <sixwheeledbeast> I am flattered
Oct 10 15:29:28 <Nokiabot> You should be !
Oct 10 15:31:03 <Nokiabot> ~Nokiabot
Oct 10 15:31:03 <infobot> somebody said nokiabot was so damm sexy !
Oct 10 15:32:58 * stryngs pees on Nokiabot 
Oct 10 15:33:54 <Nokiabot> I just wonder what would have happend when the clip reached youtube ._?
Oct 10 15:34:32 <Nokiabot> Stryngs:why you so nasty ??
Oct 10 15:36:28 <Nokiabot> I bet youtube outage reason was that as either users op's had fainted  or were in coma !
Oct 10 15:40:24 <Nokiabot> Stryngs:respond to my queries please.
Oct 10 15:41:27 <stryngs> Um
Oct 10 15:41:39 <stryngs> How tight are you Nokiabot?
Oct 10 15:43:29 <Nokiabot> Enough to hold stryngs
Oct 10 15:45:12 <Nokiabot> Ew stryngs
Oct 10 15:46:47 <Nokiabot> You shy stryngs ??
Oct 10 15:48:53 <stryngs> Nokiabot: Ever done a dog?
Oct 10 15:50:43 <Nokiabot> Stryngs:why ? dogs feel special ??
Oct 10 15:51:16 <stryngs> oh yea
Oct 10 15:52:52 <Nokiabot> Well i am not intrested in those flithy creatures stryngs
Oct 10 15:53:58 <Nokiabot> you really got no stryngs attached lol 
Oct 10 16:02:11 <stryngs> ~slay nokiabot
Oct 10 16:02:11 * infobot brandishes Excalibur!  "With this sword, I vanquish thee, nokiabot!"  apt lops off nokiabot's head.
Oct 10 16:03:45 <Nokiabot> ~Kill stryngs
Oct 10 16:03:45 * infobot shoots a magneto-ionized fluxneutrino gun at stryngs
Oct 10 16:04:41 <Nokiabot> =/ bla bla
Oct 10 16:05:25 <stryngs> Nokiabot: I bet you could suck a golfball through a garden hose!
Oct 10 16:07:50 <Nokiabot> Well i dont suck !
Oct 10 16:13:32 <Nokiabot> bets stryngs is having awsome lunch ;)
Oct 10 17:00:48 <stryngs> wtf
Oct 10 17:00:52 <stryngs> Is nokiabot a real dude?
Oct 10 17:35:19 <ShadowJK> or a nice script
Oct 10 17:55:38 <Ras_Older> Does anyone know if Bully (WPS exploiter) would be working on N900? Has anyone tried to compile it? I'm just curious because.. reasons :3
Oct 10 18:19:19 <sixwheeledbeast> Ras_Older: its C, it needs libpcap and libssl and was designed to work on embedded. I see no reason why it couldn't work.
Oct 10 18:23:14 <stryngs> Ras_Older: I specialize in all things pentestable for the n900
Oct 10 18:23:17 <stryngs> We should talk =)
Oct 10 18:24:56 <sec> Got a Jolla. I don't know how I feel about this after years with the N900.
Oct 10 18:26:22 <stryngs> traitor!
Oct 10 18:26:26 <stryngs> Get the rope boys!
Oct 10 18:26:35 * sec hides
Oct 10 18:27:46 <sec> Oi, I can now experiment with the N900 freely now that I don't have to rely on it every damn day.
Oct 10 18:27:51 <sec> It's a good thing!
Oct 10 19:01:07 <sixwheeledbeast> sec: but how do you feel now you have sold your soul ;)
Oct 10 19:02:13 <sec> Don't hate me :(
Oct 10 19:04:13 <sixwheeledbeast> sec: what do you think of it?
Oct 10 19:04:50 <sec> Well, I think it's pretty good
Oct 10 19:05:38 <sec> I think I am in love with how plain beautiful the OS is
Oct 10 19:06:08 <sec> How good it is compared to Maemo, is something time will tell..
Oct 10 19:06:45 <sec> But everything seems to be working fine, I haven't run into a single bug so far
Oct 10 19:08:33 <sec> As for the hardware, something that most people are crying about, I think it's pretty damn sweet. It doesn't feel underpowered at all. The screen is fine too. It's not fantastic, but it's fine for the price I paid atleast. The camera is utterly shit though in low light conditions.
Oct 10 19:08:59 <sec> I am not much of a picture taker so I don't care about that.
Oct 10 19:09:05 <Humpelstilzchen> same camera as n900? ;)
Oct 10 19:09:22 <sec> You could say that Humpelstilzchen :P
Oct 10 19:09:32 <sec> I DO miss the keyboard. Oh god so fucking much..
Oct 10 19:11:14 <sec> I do love the fact that I don't have to wait for browser to render pages anymore hah
Oct 10 19:11:45 <Sc0rpius> yeah definitely
Oct 10 19:11:51 <Sc0rpius> I actually bought another phone just for that
Oct 10 19:12:11 <Sc0rpius> I couldn't bear the slowness and the incompatibilities issues of the browsers (microb and all the alternatives)
Oct 10 19:12:30 <sec> I was using Opera for a while now
Oct 10 19:12:47 <Sc0rpius> I tried it, but I think it was even worse
Oct 10 19:12:58 <sec> But even then, I had to wait a while for stuff to pop up
Oct 10 19:13:49 <Humpelstilzchen> sec: didn't they wanted to make a keyboard?
Oct 10 19:14:14 <sec> Humpelstilzchen: last I read somewhere, it's getting ready for production soon enough
Oct 10 19:14:31 <sec> I am not sure how it works though, since it will cover the camera?
Oct 10 19:16:29 <sec> Humpelstilzchen: This is the latest render of the planned thing http://jollafr.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Other-Halh-Keyboard-Jolla.jpg
Oct 10 19:16:35 <sec> Looks sweet imo.
Oct 10 19:16:42 <Humpelstilzchen> not bad
Oct 10 19:18:30 <sixwheeledbeast> Sc0rpius: qml-browser?
Oct 10 19:19:22 <Sc0rpius> didn't try that
Oct 10 19:19:45 <Sicelo> sixwheeledbeast: didn't work at all for me. pages stopped loading after i opened 2nd one. :(
Oct 10 19:20:17 <Sicelo> maybe i should have submitted bug report or something.. but yeah
Oct 10 19:20:53 <sixwheeledbeast> Sicelo: there are a few bugs at the moment that need ironing out, mainly in thumb version IIRC
Oct 10 19:21:04 <Sicelo> i'm not on thumb though
Oct 10 19:21:12 <Sicelo> just cssu-testing
Oct 10 19:21:28 <sixwheeledbeast> you must be one of the only ones...
Oct 10 19:21:47 <sec> I am not on thumb either xD
Oct 10 19:21:52 <sec> Yet..
Oct 10 19:21:59 <Sicelo> only ones on testing? :O
Oct 10 19:22:47 <sec> I think he meant the only ones not on thumb 
Oct 10 19:22:58 <sixwheeledbeast> It seems either CSSU-Stable or CSSU-thumb is the norm, why not take advantage of the extra memory
Oct 10 19:23:12 <sixwheeledbeast> if your on testing anyway
Oct 10 19:24:09 <Sicelo> i been on stable for a long time. still have doubts about thumb because this is my daily and only device. i seem to read there's still a couple of things to be fixed in thumb .. not sure
Oct 10 19:24:20 <sixwheeledbeast> it may even make the browser render quicker ;)
Oct 10 19:25:14 <sixwheeledbeast> thumb == testing, with many binaries replaced for thumb versions
Oct 10 19:26:48 <Sicelo> ok. will try it (then again, i'm not so worried about speed). only commented about qml-browser in connection with the fact that i can never load pages after the second one.. weird
Oct 10 19:26:55 <Sicelo> but yeah, will look at thumb 
Oct 10 19:27:21 <sixwheeledbeast> ~CSSU-thumb
Oct 10 19:27:22 <infobot> extra, extra, read all about it, cssu-thumb is <Doc_Scrutinizer05> [thumb2 microb] indeed seems to render like mad, subjectively, or http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1220597, or http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Thumb
Oct 10 19:29:45 <sixwheeledbeast> if your on stable obviously this is a step up to testing before you can take advantage of thumb.
Oct 10 19:36:28 <km52> Hi, I flashed my good-old-n900 thinking it would swipe all data, but seeing /home. What was wrong? Image or flasher options -F .bin -f
Oct 10 19:36:42 <Sicelo> you flashed only rootfs
Oct 10 19:36:50 <Sicelo> flash emmc as well
Oct 10 19:37:31 <sec> While we're on that topic, anyone have links to the images?
Oct 10 19:37:35 <km52> oko, but does it really matter if I only delete everything from there
Oct 10 19:37:44 <km52> yes,I
Oct 10 19:38:01 <km52>  had those while ago, but wait a se
Oct 10 19:38:03 <km52> c
Oct 10 19:38:19 <km52> my keyboard full of bread crumps
Oct 10 19:40:28 <km52> http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2011/9/--FID--A0A22MVWFVFAM/--LID--FiRe1317015685654/RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1.020_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin
Oct 10 19:41:00 <km52> i think that was image that downloaded
Oct 10 19:42:49 <sec> Is that PR1.3?
Oct 10 19:43:24 <sec> Can't make any sense of it from the file name
Oct 10 19:43:41 <km52> wait
Oct 10 19:44:08 <Sicelo> PR1.3.1
Oct 10 19:44:41 <sec> Because of the 21.2011.38?
Oct 10 19:45:01 <km52> it should be, but how was it checked? havent been using long time
Oct 10 19:45:12 <sec> Should be 1.3.1
Oct 10 19:45:14 <sec> This is good!
Oct 10 19:45:49 <sec> Sicelo: How do you see if this is the international/asian/espanol, whatever version?
Oct 10 19:46:14 <km52> jep version 21.2011.38-1
Oct 10 19:46:22 <km52> thast international
Oct 10 19:46:46 <sec> Alrighty, thanks mate. Got a link to the emmc image as well?
Oct 10 19:47:11 <km52> have to look
Oct 10 19:47:22 <Sicelo> ~emmc
Oct 10 19:47:22 <infobot> extra, extra, read all about it, emmc is is http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2010/5/--FID--A0A22YHFSICNA/--LID--FiRe1275051276916/AE98ED9D_RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.CENTRAL-EUROPE_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin or see ~emmc2
Oct 10 19:47:31 <Sicelo> ~emmc2
Oct 10 19:47:32 <infobot> well, emmc2 is http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2010/5/--FID--A0A22FGDOJCSI/--LID--FiRe1275064390175/163EC1AE_RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.IBERIA_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin, or http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2010/5/--FID--A0A22VHGOMWUG/--LID--FiRe1274862877184/E3AD4912_RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.SEAP_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin, or see emmc3
Oct 10 19:47:49 <sec> Well that's convenient, thanks Sicelo 
Oct 10 19:48:22 <sec> ~emmc3
Oct 10 19:48:23 <infobot> i guess emmc3 is http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2010/4/--FID--A0A22UYGVCFDF/--LID--FiRe1272381325983/E14B4F3B_RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.SCANDINAVIA_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin
Oct 10 19:49:52 <km52> https://web.archive.org/web/20131117073524/http://skeiron.org/tablets-dev/nokia_N900/
Oct 10 19:59:23 <km52> Whats your n900 favorite optimizations (overclock min/max, thumb/thumb2)? Something else to think about?
Oct 10 20:11:06 <kerio> neo900
Oct 10 20:11:08 <kerio> >:D
Oct 10 20:13:56 <stryngs> km52: This will sound insane 
Oct 10 20:14:01 <stryngs> But it seemed to speed up my n900
Oct 10 20:14:19 <stryngs> I completly filled the n900 on all partitions with dd, then i deleted everything
Oct 10 20:14:22 <stryngs> then i flashed
Oct 10 20:14:29 <stryngs> for WHATEVER reason, the box is snappier
Oct 10 20:14:42 <stryngs> i was trying to forensicely wipe it
Oct 10 20:15:31 <sec> That doesn't even make sense ..
Oct 10 20:17:06 <sixwheeledbeast> sec:  yes 21.2011.38-1 == PR1.3.1
Oct 10 20:17:48 <Wikiwide> It is snappier than in the case of simple-reflashing, without any forensic wipe?
Oct 10 20:19:09 <sec> sixwheeledbeast: I have PR 1.3 lying around. If I recall correctly, CSSU contains all the patches for 1.3 -> 1.3.1
Oct 10 20:19:25 <sixwheeledbeast> sec: :nod:
Oct 10 20:19:42 <km52> it sounds insane, but maybe there is point.
Oct 10 20:20:26 <sec> km52: No, technically, it shouldn't be affected .. at all ..
Oct 10 20:21:13 <km52> yes, but it sounds so gooog
Oct 10 20:21:17 <km52> good
Oct 10 20:22:53 <sec> https://www.youtube.com/v/pN5vf23UcO4
Oct 10 20:23:45 <km52> itsboy
Oct 10 20:24:32 <sixwheeledbeast> 20.2010.36-2 is PR1.3 BTW
Oct 10 20:25:02 <sec> Yep, got that one
Oct 10 20:34:03 <kerio> 1) you flashed
Oct 10 20:34:09 <kerio> 2) there's no 2
Oct 10 22:42:09 <sixwheeledbeast> hmm, need to find a way of making QProcess grep contains of a file and use this output to setText on a QLabel. I am obviously not understanding something.
Oct 10 23:36:55 <sixwheeledbeast> aha, http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=831599&postcount=161.
Oct 10 23:37:24 <sixwheeledbeast> Seem to have an extra line after my output tho, hmm
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