**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Oct 23 03:00:00 2014 Oct 23 04:16:48 Maybe someone in #pulseaudio can help Oct 23 04:41:40 w00t Oct 23 04:41:44 rocking de scratchbox i am Oct 23 04:41:48 anyone alive? Oct 23 04:59:51 stryngs: yep Oct 23 04:59:53 Is it not possible to sync Google Calendar to maemo any more? Oct 23 06:52:28 moin :) Oct 23 13:24:34 anyone using mplayer (cli) for playing movie? Oct 23 13:25:01 what is optimal setting for prevent video lags? Oct 23 15:03:57 Hebi: i sometimes do .. i have never really changed other settings, besides specifying `-ao pulse` Oct 23 15:06:55 with pulse audio is good Oct 23 15:06:59 no lag Oct 23 15:07:10 but the video is lagged hard Oct 23 15:07:18 and out of sync Oct 23 15:07:40 s/pulse/pulse, Oct 23 17:30:49 ah here it is :) i thought this channel was gone1 Oct 23 17:31:02 nope Oct 23 17:31:14 206 people now Oct 23 17:31:45 seemiyah: do you have a question? Oct 23 17:32:20 seemiyah: do you have a question? Oct 23 17:33:26 sorry six. not realy. it is more that i just uploaded a video of my latest project and will now ask for some n810 or n900 users to test it out. you want to see the video? its 1:50 minutes and i still have a tear in my eye by seeing my n800 doing so great! Oct 23 17:34:08 damn i thought this was a private message. sorry all! Oct 23 17:34:35 it's fine it's on topic, do share. Oct 23 17:34:50 ok, thanks. here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36_ZLIVsOZk Oct 23 17:35:47 I I am searching for people with a n900 to test out the demo link of SEEMIYAH to see if the fullscreen widgets work on the device. Oct 23 17:38:42 seemiyah: so do you have to join to get the widgets? Oct 23 17:41:24 If it works on N8xx then I would think N900 MicroB will be fine. I suppose it's all HTML5? Oct 23 17:43:02 yes. when i did it back in 2007 with adobe flash that su***ed a lot. and we had the discussion those days about the propietary situation of Flash. So i now did everything with javascript and html. Oct 23 17:44:33 yes you have to join but you can join with ANY email. Even invent one. That is because i want you to be able to create several playlists. If you for example want some special widgets on your n900 you create a playlist for the profile xyz@test.com and if you want to have a second playlist for your televison you create it with a second e-mail. This way you can have independent playlists per device. Oct 23 17:45:17 if you want to have one playlist for all your devices you simply start the same playlist on every device. Oct 23 17:45:32 thanks for that question - i will add it to the FAQ :) Oct 23 17:52:47 can anyone test it out on his/her n810 or n900 ? Oct 23 17:56:07 anyone know if this twitter widget still works somewhere? http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94047 Oct 23 17:59:24 Jef91: i wanted to created a twitter widget for my seemiyah project and realized that since the last twitter API update it realy sucks creating bridges for twitter. So it might be that the twitter widget you talk about still useses the old API connections. Oct 23 17:59:45 yea likely Oct 23 18:00:05 I'll have to write one at somepoint myself Oct 23 18:14:02 most twitter apps for maemo are broken due to new api Oct 23 18:19:10 tweetian works.. but has one big bug: mysterious crash Oct 23 18:22:43 what does gdb say ? Oct 23 18:36:52 i don't have it anymore.. no twitter either. Oct 23 19:09:55 does anyone sometimes have this issue: when there is poor gprs/3g connectivity for a long time, N900 eventually will not connect at all via GPRS, even when it is available. toggling offline mode doesn't help. it will connect via 3G however. Oct 23 19:10:09 so far, seems only restarting 'fixes' this Oct 23 19:12:16 yeah I have wired issues like these since recently. Oct 23 19:12:24 s/wired/weird Oct 23 19:14:04 sucks Oct 23 19:18:19 NIN101: just now Doc suggested AT+CFUN=0 Oct 23 19:18:27 worked.. i'm impressed Oct 23 19:22:22 doc? he's still there? Oct 23 19:23:24 there also is a 2g/3g switcher thingy forgot the name... Oct 23 19:23:37 on IRC he will always be .. just not #maemo Oct 23 19:23:57 and nox- ..this one is not solvable by switching between 3g/2g.. Oct 23 19:24:04 oh Oct 23 19:24:20 not even bringing phonet0 up/down or killing icd2 helps Oct 23 19:24:31 Sicelo, is doc still working on neo900? Oct 23 19:24:43 yes Oct 23 19:24:46 oh Oct 23 19:25:21 lol. he will not stop at any time, afaict. Oct 23 19:25:45 heh Oct 23 19:35:01 Sicelo: thanks for the info Oct 23 19:37:55 hi you three, does anyone of you own the n900 and could spend 5 minutes in checking if my full screen widgets work on the device? Oct 23 19:38:03 it's a simple website you'd have to call. Oct 23 20:14:09 sysklogd is surprising program. Since i installed it m mediaplayer has been playing nicely... Oct 23 20:14:27 -m* Oct 23 20:16:03 i seem to have that issue when trying to find intermittent issues Oct 23 20:18:14 strace too, haha.. you start running it, problems stop :( Oct 23 20:18:27 maybe maemo is a bit shy after all Oct 23 20:18:43 doesn't want to reveal all secrets at once Oct 23 20:19:50 btw is installing .deb just like walk in a park or more like hike to top of everest? Oct 23 20:20:42 on maemo? same as on desktop Oct 23 20:21:13 dpkg -i whatever.deb Oct 23 20:21:42 yes.. you can even run it via HAM by just clicking it in file manager Oct 23 20:25:28 even microb will open ham for you if on the web, IIRC Oct 23 20:27:02 You could even dpkg -x whatever.deb and cp everything in place manually Oct 23 20:34:33 ok thx for the info. Guess im trying that new irssi from the forums Oct 23 20:37:02 Take the red pill Vajb. You have no idea how deep this rabbit hole goes. Oct 23 20:39:23 i rather think that this rabbit hole goes way up above other phones :p Oct 23 20:40:20 Vajb: new Irssi? from forums? haha, thanks for the info Oct 23 20:40:38 Got a new old phone Vajb? Oct 23 20:41:33 yeah second hand. Actually two atm Oct 23 20:42:10 other one isn't playing that nice, but since installing sysklogd not a single reboot has happen Oct 23 20:42:21 tho it just idles without sim... Oct 23 20:42:57 Ah, you'll have fun. Brilliant little thing. Pity Elop happened. Oct 23 20:43:00 ~elop Oct 23 20:43:04 [elop] definetely a microsoft spy and one of the most successful corporate trolls Oct 23 20:43:50 yeah. I've had this over a year now actually, but wanted to lay low and hide Oct 23 20:44:06 before joining #maemo that is haha Oct 23 20:44:30 elop was one thing and bad decissions another Oct 23 20:51:51 actually it opened to ham even from opera after it was downloaded Oct 23 20:52:14 tho now it's whining about dependencies. Need to install perl first Oct 23 20:55:20 vajb: if it gives you problems, let me know Oct 23 20:55:54 hmm strange tried to install perl and fam crashed Oct 23 20:56:01 never happened before Oct 23 20:56:06 trying again... Oct 23 20:56:27 ~fam Oct 23 20:56:27 extra, extra, read all about it, fapman is Faster Application Manager, a frontend for apt which uses own repositories catalog, and shouldn't be used to do system upgrades (like CSSU), or actually for anything since ~speedyHAM. It also does "apt-get autoremove" after every operation, by default. In short, it's been identified as source of system corruption and thus deprecated, or see ~hamvsfam Oct 23 20:57:15 ~speedyHAM Oct 23 20:57:16 i guess speedyham is http://maemo.merlin1991.at/cssu/community-devel/pool/free/h/hildon-application-manager/hildon-application-manager_2.2.73-2_armel.deb, or in cssu-thumb, or 30 times faster than HAM Oct 23 20:57:48 Thumb oh thumb, why are you always so alluring yet so elusive Oct 23 20:57:58 i see. So this is what i should be using? Oct 23 20:58:09 You'll need thumb for it Oct 23 20:58:10 ~cssu Oct 23 20:58:11 extra, extra, read all about it, cssu is http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU, or (Community Seamless Software Update) Oct 23 20:58:18 ~thumb Oct 23 20:58:19 well, cssu-thumb is [thumb2 microb] indeed seems to render like mad, subjectively, or http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1220597, or http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Thumb Oct 23 20:58:26 ah i have thumb in my other device Oct 23 20:58:26 sec: it is not 'necessary' to use thumb Oct 23 20:58:46 Ah it isn't? Oct 23 20:58:47 but Vajb, just use regular HAM, or even apt-get Oct 23 20:59:03 sec: no. install the deb Oct 23 20:59:30 Oh I had no idea all this while Oct 23 20:59:32 Heh Oct 23 21:00:14 strange now fam can't find libperl at all Oct 23 21:00:33 trying apt coz ham doesn't show lib's Oct 23 21:01:05 Do you have the right repos enabled? Oct 23 21:02:05 i didn't change anything Oct 23 21:02:29 first it saw it and crashed when installing. After restaring it, it was gone Oct 23 21:02:41 updated catalogs but no effect Oct 23 21:03:03 restarting* Oct 23 21:03:16 Hang on speedyham doesnt need thumb Oct 23 21:03:24 oh you said that Oct 23 21:04:06 hmm apt shows that it is installed.... Oct 23 21:04:07 Vajb: libperl is in sdk repo, and downloads. nokia.com (don't konw if that still works) Oct 23 21:04:33 i found it in regular repo :o Oct 23 21:04:53 that means downloads.maemo.nokia.com still works :) Oct 23 21:05:04 infobot no speedyham is 30 times faster than HAM http://maemo.merlin1991.at/cssu/community-devel/pool/free/h/hildon-application-manager/hildon-application-manager_2.2.73-2_armel.deb Oct 23 21:05:04 okay, sixwheeledbeast Oct 23 21:07:20 does speedyham completely replace old ham? Or it just works at side of it? Oct 23 21:07:43 mean if i install will i have 3 package managers then... Oct 23 21:07:44 replaces Oct 23 21:07:53 ok Oct 23 21:08:02 sixwheeledbeast: they optimized it, right? Oct 23 21:08:57 and it should work from that link even tho it points to thumb repo? Oct 23 21:09:08 i have just regular cssu stable here Oct 23 21:09:16 it's not pointing to thumb repo :) Oct 23 21:09:27 Sicelo900v6: Vajb: fixes to the stock application manager Oct 23 21:09:31 yes Oct 23 21:09:44 ~fmg Oct 23 21:09:44 methinks fmg is the greatest Oct 23 21:09:59 ~pali Oct 23 21:09:59 pali is probably http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pali/ Oct 23 21:11:46 I wouldn't recommend the use of anything other than HAM or speedyHAM Oct 23 21:11:51 ~hamvsfam Oct 23 21:11:52 rumour has it, hamvsfam is https://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2013-10-28.log.html#t2013-10-28T10:44:33, or http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93227 Oct 23 21:12:06 so how did you make it faster ? :) Oct 23 21:12:06 ~kerio Oct 23 21:12:06 extra, extra, read all about it, kerio is ah kerio, you beauty, or u r right, or poettering killa Oct 23 21:12:15 or why was ham so slow ? :) Oct 23 21:13:05 M4rtinK: fmg found poorly written code IIRC. Oct 23 21:13:19 ~slay systemd Oct 23 21:13:19 * infobot brandishes Excalibur! "With this sword, I vanquish thee, systemd!" apt lops off systemd's head. Oct 23 21:16:11 he believes it can be made faster too... :) Oct 23 21:16:21 says that it's not compatible Oct 23 21:16:38 ham says that speedyham is not compatible Oct 23 21:17:22 install manually Oct 23 21:17:52 obviously HAM will be 'jealous' Oct 23 21:20:44 hmm true Oct 23 21:22:19 haha Oct 23 21:22:48 hmm, are you cherry-picking speedyham ? Oct 23 21:24:07 dependency problems Oct 23 21:24:09 it would appear so yes. Oct 23 21:29:57 btw, I'm looking for a memleak in osso-systemui-tklock ... any idea where it could hide ? Oct 23 21:30:04 (I hope it's not hiding in systemui itself) Oct 23 21:30:13 depencies for installing speedyHAM? or libperl? what are they? Oct 23 21:34:09 two actually Oct 23 21:36:27 libglib2-0.0 Oct 23 21:36:44 libglib2.0-0* Oct 23 21:37:11 libpixman-1-0 Oct 23 21:37:25 too old versions Oct 23 21:37:39 guess i have to enable some more repos Oct 23 21:37:59 those are wanted by speedyHAM? Oct 23 21:38:24 yes Oct 23 21:38:34 you said the device is on CSSU? Oct 23 21:38:51 yep cssu stable Oct 23 21:38:57 ok. Oct 23 21:39:38 install irssi with apt then :p Oct 23 21:40:09 i already installed new irssi :) Oct 23 21:40:22 just didn't restart it yet Oct 23 21:41:07 ok ;) Oct 23 21:41:28 irssi installed just fine after apt install libperl5.8 Oct 23 21:43:39 * Sicelo900v6 must move his N900 to thumb now Oct 23 21:45:39 btw is it possible to get same battery info visible on menu as seen on thumb? Oct 23 21:45:54 it shows percent and mah left Oct 23 21:47:13 yes. i have that.. don't remember if it came with cssu-testing or what.. Oct 23 21:48:33 but anyway, g'nite everyone Oct 23 21:50:41 i see. Nite Sicelo900v6 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Oct 24 03:00:00 2014