**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Nov 09 03:00:00 2014 Nov 09 10:34:42 Why does apt-get dist-upgrade want to remove half my OS ._. Nov 09 10:34:58 This is PR1.3.1 after a new flash Nov 09 10:35:05 5 upgraded, 11 newly installed, 360 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Nov 09 10:35:05 Need to get 2251kB of archives. Nov 09 10:35:06 After this operation, 197MB disk space will be freed. Nov 09 10:38:15 I even changed the date back to 2009 and tried it Nov 09 10:40:25 beause maemo has some messed up deps, there is a meta package which depends on pretty much everything Nov 09 10:41:38 Hm, thanks bencoh Nov 09 10:41:42 because dist-upgrade depends on upgrading certain debian-specific stuff Nov 09 10:41:48 which makes everything blow up Nov 09 10:41:53 iirc Nov 09 10:42:34 But there has to be a solution right? Or will this persist and you can't use apt-get and have to resort to using HAM or FAM every time? Nov 09 10:42:48 For updates I mean. I can still install and remove fine. Nov 09 10:43:32 why do you want to dist-upgrade so bad Nov 09 10:44:00 I don't *need* to, just a matter of preference Nov 09 10:44:13 I would rather fix something if there is a fix though Nov 09 10:44:23 dist-upgrade just wont work on maemo and no there is no fix to make it work Nov 09 10:44:46 Hm, alright, thanks jonwil Nov 09 10:46:10 sec: apt-get upgrade is enough is some cases Nov 09 10:46:43 (even though the recommended way is to use ham) Nov 09 10:47:00 (I personally dont use HAM at all) Nov 09 10:47:13 I usually run into the case that HAM doesn't show me any updates and apt-get upgrade does Nov 09 10:54:04 HAM will only show user packages Nov 09 10:54:10 and it'll pull dependencies Nov 09 10:54:11 and that's it Nov 09 11:02:18 Ah, alright Nov 09 11:19:22 http://vsenn.com/ Nov 09 11:24:37 meh Nov 09 11:24:46 >Android Nov 09 18:30:50 so i wanted to do the 'right' thing -- activate properly with microsoft (win 7 starter). coa sticker is faded, and can make out out a few of the letters/numbers. tried over 100 permutations with the help of a bash script. none worked so far. Nov 09 18:30:57 so much for doing 'right' Nov 09 18:31:31 this is a friend's laptop, as i'm happily using debian on my machine Nov 10 00:11:36 sec: this is why HAM is recommended for all Maemo package management. Nov 10 00:12:05 ~hamvsfam Nov 10 00:12:06 i heard hamvsfam is https://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2013-10-28.log.html#t2013-10-28T10:44:33, or http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93227 Nov 10 00:13:59 never do dist-upgrade in Maemo, ever! Nov 10 00:16:50 The only way I believe this can be fixed, would be to break the whole maemo mp up and fix all the dependencies. a huge task. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Nov 10 02:59:59 2014